Heres what I have to work with, what can I do?

[Buckshot]

I have 4 CFLs for the time being, about 500 watts total. 2 2700K, and 2 5100K. I have about 8,000 lumens to work with.

I have a possible grow cab - measurements are 14.75DX27wX27T.

What do you guys think I could work out with a simple small - beginner setup like this?

[VOYAGER]

500w and only 8000 lumens doesn't seen right at all, unless they are equiv. to 500w incandescent. to answer you question though, sure put it together, but as soon as you start seeing the growth, you'll get addicted and start thinking for more and more ways to improve, also just keep reading everyone elses grows there is a lot of info throughout this site.

[Buckshot]

(1) 150 watt 5500K CFL 2600L
(1) 200 watt 3000K CFL 2700L
(1) 60 watt 4100K CFL 800L
(1) 120 watt 3000K CFL 1500L



(Gonna get a couple more, this is what I have now though ~530)

What about my potential room, think it has any well.. potential?


Oh btw, I picked up a 150Watt HPS today, gotta convert it here soon.

[justaseed]

you don't go by the high wattage on the package you go by the low 1. example: 150watt=about 42watts. the high wattage number means nothing it is just for comparison to incandescents.

use the 150hps along with the cfls. i had a 150hps + 164 watts of cfls in a scrog cab. and i yeilded 5-5 1/2 oz regularly.

[Dazed4now]

you should be good on CFLs, i think it has much potential
go get some mylar from a sporting good store (its packaged as an emergency space blanket usually)
save the HPS for flowering and i would only grow 1-2 plants depending on how big the setup is.
oh and get a camera :thumbsup:

[Volker]

(1) 150 watt 5500K CFL 2600L
(1) 200 watt 3000K CFL 2700L
(1) 60 watt 4100K CFL 800L
(1) 120 watt 3000K CFL 1500LMan! I get better lumens than that from my CFTs:
4 ea. 27W CFT 6500K 1660L (6640L)
2 ea. 27W CFT 5500K 1640L (3280L)
2 ea. 23W CFT 2700K 1440L (2880L)
total 208W / 12800L in my 2' x 3' grow space in the closet. These lights are about 1" above the plant tops. At bud time I add 2 ea. 42W CFT 2700K 2660L for a total of 290W / 18120L.

These are all screw in "twisters" avail from Home Depot, Lowe's. Save-On, etc.

[Volker]

go get some mylar from a sporting good store (its packaged as an emergency space blanket usually)Good call!

Another cheap (usually free) grow-room liner: advertising posters! The backs are shiney white: better than foil & white paint, almost as good as mylar. liquor stores are always throwing out beer posters. Flip 'em over, shiney side out, staple/tape up, and voilá! (I'm a cheap bastard)

[justaseed]

Man! I get better lumens than that from my CFTs:
4 ea. 27W CFT 6500K 1660L (6640L)
2 ea. 27W CFT 5500K 1640L (3280L)
2 ea. 23W CFT 2700K 1440L (2880L)
total 208W / 12800L in my 2' x 3' grow space in the closet. These lights are about 1" above the plant tops. At bud time I add 2 ea. 42W CFT 2700K 2660L for a total of 290W / 18120L.

These are all screw in "twisters" avail from Home Depot, Lowe's. Save-On, etc.

that's because the wattages posted are all wrong. where it says 150wat i'm sure it means 42watts, you see what i mean. what's your yeild with all those cfls? i had a 354watt cfl grow that yeilded about 4 1/2 oz continually. just curious what others are yeilding with cfl grows, i could only get 1/3 gram/watt or a bit more with them and i have no prob getting 1gm/watt with the hps bulbs.

[Volker]

what's your yeild with all those cfls? Dunno yet. First grow in the new closet. But the vegging looks better than the old setup - same seeds & soil as before - so I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'll get a little less than an oz/plant. So, I have potentially a QP. (5 plants in the tub)

[justaseed]

i grow scrog style so i get high yeilds. good luck with the grow. i'll be really curious what your yeild is.

[Buckshot]

I ended up with 2.75 Sq ft of grow area. I realize I used the wrong wattages, sorry.

Ill end up with somthing like 21,000 lumens with both lights.

7640 Lm/Sq Ft.. I don't think thats too bad..

[justaseed]

no prob, i knew what you meant. it can get confusing sometimes when figuring out how many for a space. they shouldn't even put the high 1 on the package. my cfl cab was 4sqft, with a space that small or smaller, especially with cfl's, scrog is your best option. realisticly you could yeild almost 5oz in 2 sqft with some practice. (2.4oz/sqft) you could not even get close to that growing tradition in such a small space. here is my old scrog thread to get an idea of how to do it. it is so easy!!!!!!!!!!!http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326
good luck

[Buckshot]

Did you LST to get all your nodes headed north, then train them to the chicken wire, or grow them normal and train them to the chicken wire??


Ill get pics tonight of what I plan to get set up, and show you guys...

[Buckshot]

Uh, got one pic, of an unassembled HPS light, and my cam died. Shit. Lol

[justaseed]

yes i started topping/ lst right from the start with clones or at about the 4th node with seed plants. i also used wire with only 1inch holes to be able to train the plants more precisely. the thread i linked above shows everything i did and used from start to finish although the pics don't start till early flower. good luck

[Buckshot]

Hey guys, I',m kinda rethinking this whole thing... I have seeds that are germed so it needs to be fairly quick... Should I use a wider-shorted cab, or a narrower-taller cab? I gotta get somthing set up pretty quick here or my germed seeds are gonna hate me, lol.

[Cyclonite]

Just so you know a 400 watt HPS puts out 40,000-52,000 lumens depending on the bulb....thats the way to go

[rottenPauL]

im with cyclonite :D

[Volker]

Just so you know a 400 watt HPS puts out 40,000-52,000 lumens depending on the bulb....thats the way to goAgreed. If I had a grow ROOM instead of a grow CLOSET, I'd defo go w/a 400W HPS. But instead I have ~250W of CFT flouro for about 18000L covering about 2 ft². Total cost for my closet to date has been $5 for mylar gift wrap & $7 on my first CFT way back when. (new bulbs are "donations" [I have a stoner buddy at Home Depot that I try not to abuse], fixtures are salvage) But at cost, bulbs woulda been ~$90.- + tax. It's $12.95 for either a single 42W 2700K or a 2-pack of 27W 6500K. About the same as a 90W HPS security light. (at Home Depot)

[JackdaWack]

You def. want more head room. you can always lst your plants but you will want the extra room up top for flowering. And going cheep on lighting will give you cheep results. the only advice i can give is get the most lumens you can with what ever you choose to use. everything else is pretty much covered in here. Im assuming you know which bulbs to buy, blue spec. for veg, red spec for flower, other then that its preference and what fits/works. CFLs are cheap and produce very very little heat, in a small cab there a must.