18/6 under red light

[emmpey]

Dear fellow growers,

my veg cab is bursting at the seams so I'm gonna move a couple of plants to the flower cab after re-potting.

I was thinking it might be a good idea to let the plants veg for a week longer to allow the new root growth to get established. Will they be ok on 18/6 under a red CFL?

I've read that the red light will cause em to stretch a bit but thats not a problem, are there any other things I need to be aware of, or should I just go straight to 12/12 after re-potting?

cheers all.

[BONG0]

give it a day to get used to it, but keep them under blue spectrum lighting dont switch it to red untill you are ready to flower, and put it into 12/12 never do 18/6 during veg 24/7 allways. :thumbsup:

[GollyWog420]

what you said :thumbsup:
love the video

[emmpey]

]never do 18/6 during veg
I always do 18/6. during veg. thanks anyway - btw aint you Mr WIlliams? :)

Once I repot I wont physically be able to put them back in my veg cab (i.e. under the blue light) so what I was asking is... will they be ok with a red light on a vegetative light cycle for a week? - just until they settle into the new pots, or is it not worth worrying about that and just put them straight into 12/12?

[BONG0]

no, im not Mr williams,

that 8 hours of darkness isent needed, your plants arent doing anything but sitting there not growing when u do that, they dont need rest because they have all the water and nutes they need to go 24/7, your slowing down the photo period also, thats the time the plants turns light into energy to grow, and when u turn of the light it stops, and takes to to restart once u turn the lights back on.

[emmpey]

firstly it's six hours darkness and not eight, secondly plants DO grow in the dark. I am aware that plants grow continually under 24/0 but I also know that they store energy during the day and use it at night. I presume your use of 24/7 was a 'typo' or do you mean 24 hours on/7 hours off?

I personally have found that plants grown from seed on 18/6 flower better than those on 24/0, maybe the roots are able to store more energy, maybe they adjust quicker to the longer dark period - i dunno I'm not a botanist. I also do 18/6 cos I have to worry about the electric bill.

You know what - I'm just gonna flower them and let you get back to pissing in your hydro. :D

[CCIE]

Flip your thesaurus to 'Expert Cannabis Farmer: Antonyms' and you'll see my smiling face, but I can report this: Adding the warm HPS to my 6500 CFL veg lighting only increased the plants' growth rate. They did begin to stretch, but not excessively.

edit: I have to turn the darn thing off to take pictures though. S'like focusing at the sun.

[BONG0]

You know what - I'm just gonna flower them and let you get back to pissing in your hydro. :D


Whatever you say guy, the only good time to use 18/6 is a few days befor u go to 12/12 u dont know squat, and dont u talk crap to me little man, ill piss on your head. :thumbsup:

[BONG0]

Urine Works great by the way

[emmpey]

ill piss on your head
LOL - piss seems to be your answer to everything.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=92520

[BONG0]

Thanks for Pluging my thred :D

[emmpey]

yeah well, one good turd deserves another :)

peace.

[bejay]

you should be fine vegging for a week if you wish, but its probably not needed as they should recover fine from any transplanting shock well before buds start to develop.

[emmpey]

thanks for that bejay - i stuck them straight into 12/12 in the end.

[ryanhayn]

yeah well, one good turd deserves another :)

peace.

haha...i love the hate. u both must be out of herb. find some, smoke, then everyone be buddy buddy :dance:

[emmpey]

nah man, I was misunderstood - I've read a number of posts from bongo where he talks about using urine in his hydro, and the last one I saw from him he talks about human faeces too!

mine are all jokes - it was him that got his nickers in a twist Ha ha ha.

[harris7]

This might clear some things up............

This months cannabis Culture Magazine has a big article on why MJ dosn't need darkness. and why the ONLY reason to give it to it is to slow growth, or reduce power consumption.

It says that cannabis plants will grow 3/4 as fast with 18/6 than with 24/0
which would make it a linear curve.

I keep my plants on 18/6 because they grow fast enough. and yes they do grow at night. they grow all the time. but many reactions only take place during the light phase (other than photosynthesis).

[emmpey]

thanks harris7, but I aint got a problem with light cycles ;)

I too do 18/6 to keep my bill managable. all I was asking is wether it would be ok to carry on vegging a couple of plants under a red light.

bongo decieded to hijack my thread and make a beef about 24/0 being better than 18/6. if he wants to piss in his hydro than who am i to judge? if I want to run 18/6 then who is he to judge? I wish he would drop the 'i am a growing god' act and stop trying so damn hard to demonstrate his knowledge at every opportunity - it makes me cringe.

god dammit man! you've got me started again....bongo - i'm gonna rip your fucking head off and shit in your neck.

:D

[TheGreenFog]

I personally have found that plants grown from seed on 18/6 flower better than those on 24/0, maybe the roots are able to store more energy, maybe they adjust quicker to the longer dark period - i dunno I'm not a botanist. I also do 18/6 cos I have to worry about the electric bill.

You know what - I'm just gonna flower them and let you get back to pissing in your hydro. :D

^LOL. If I put quotes in my sig, I'd use this one. :D

Yea, well, the trend of info recently has tended to lean towards supporting the 24/0 regiment. I understand it's benefits - faster growth. But I also agree with the fact that there are advantages to using the 18/6 schedule. obviously these have been mentioned - power consumption/growth speed (space efficiency).

I am still not 100% convinced that "nothing" beneficial happens during the dark period in veg. I seem to remember reading something about root growth the dark phase. Maybe some other stuff happens. And like emmpey said, he's personally experienced a change in flowering ease when using the 2 different photoperiods. If I were to grow, I would use the 18/6 cycle for several reasons: it was the first photoperiod I learned about, it saves power, ~and most importantly~, It helps control the growth of your plants when you are trying to make your veg plants wait for your flowering cab to be done!

As far as the red light, I would say that it wouldn't hurt to veg them under there for 18/6 for a week or few. 'Ours' were moved from CFL to HPS and vegged under the HPS for a few weeks before they were flipped.

I know you already put them into flower, so there is no use now, but just my opinion. Hope they turn out nice, and hey, now you will have more than one harvest! ;)

:rastasmoke:

TGF

[TheGreenFog]

thanks harris7, but I aint got a problem with light cycles ;)

I too do 18/6 to keep my bill managable. all I was asking is wether it would be ok to carry on vegging a couple of plants under a red light.

bongo decieded to hijack my thread and make a beef about 24/0 being better than 18/6. if he wants to piss in his hydro than who am i to judge? if I want to run 18/6 then who is he to judge? I wish he would drop the 'i am a growing god' act and stop trying so damn hard to demonstrate his knowledge at every opportunity - it makes me cringe.

god dammit man! you've got me started again....bongo - i'm gonna rip your fucking head off and shit in your neck.

:D



:eek:


Dude...


:joint2:

Take 2 of these :baggy::baggy: and call me in the morning. ;) lol

:rastasmoke:

TGF

[emmpey]

LOL - hey thanks for the positivity greenfrog - i feel my rage subsiding and peace returning (y'know i'm kidding right?)
:yippee:

[BONG0]

god dammit man! you've got me started again....bongo - i'm gonna rip your fucking head off and shit in your neck.

wow, u r cool, what a way to steal a movie quote *Clap Clap* Id like to see you try it kid, i will give you my address and you can come to my door and say that.

[BONG0]

I wish he would drop the 'i am a growing god' act and stop trying so damn hard to demonstrate his knowledge at every opportunity

whats that suppost to mean? i never said anything like that, or proposed i was a better grower than anyone, i ask for help from everyone here too.

i will demonstrate my knowledge anytime i want, i got some extra to spare, seems like your in need of some.

[BONG0]

This months cannabis Culture Magazine has a big article on why MJ dosn't need darkness. and why the ONLY reason to give it to it is to slow growth, or reduce power consumption.It says that cannabis plants will grow 3/4 as fast with 18/6 than with 24/0 which would make it a linear curve.

OHHH who dosent know what they are talking about agin Emmpey?

[emmpey]

enough already! have you had a sense of humour bypass or something?

leave me alone....

:spamsign:

[BONG0]

ohh wate wate i did, i hadent responded back to the post untill today when i see u r going to make my neck a toilet and how u said i think im the best grower blah blah blah, i believe my last post to u befor the ones above was "THAKNS! for pluging my post" thats hardly trying to egg it on farther, you just got mad when other members started agreeing with me, and when you read the post about the article in the magazeen about 24/0 light u flipped out.

[emmpey]

post #8 was were you lost it bro - you didn't get my 'pissing in the hydro' joke did you? for someone that has posted a number of times about the subject I thought you would have appreciated it.

everything I've said on this thread since has been meant as a joke - you see the smilies right?

your last few posts have had me belly laughing and for that I am grateful.

so let me end by saying this.... yeah you were right all along. I was wrong, you're great. my jokes are crap. everyone can see that i'm stupid and I know nothing. your the best man, no really. I wish i was like you big man.

[BONG0]

LOL:D

Its cool i was laughing the whole time as well :thumbsup:

[lowryderulez]

lol im confused but it was kool to read round 1....................Round 2...FIGHT!

[emmpey]

shut your fucking pie-hole

























just kidding bro :D

[TheGreenFog]

LOL...

How 'bout a nice cup of...


STFU!


ha

:rastasmoke:

TGF

[klup]

i thought i read somewhere that 24/0 throughout the entire veg can increase the possibility of hermies. i dont know, most likely wrong.

[TheGreenFog]

edit...wrong thread

[mPk]

:smokin: