clones/problems

[Bubonichronic]

look

[D3STRUCT]

i see ur using the hydro! sure the roots are geting any water?! at all ?....

[Yumans]

See that ring? It is a drip system, so the answer is yes, they do get nutrients. I am his friend and have seen the system, and the roots get plenty of nutrients when it drips. One clone from my plant was in his system, but had died from the solution, its been watered down, and I think these seedling/clones are bigger and can take the solution better. So far they look good, besides a few burns they have. We will try to keep pictures posted. This is my plant, Eve, the momma of many of the clones, it lived with only shitty sunlight for a long time, but it is now in hydro and with better lighting and is making immense progress.

[Bubonichronic]

i see you have mastered thte art of topping young grasshoppa. You show one plant look like two an a half plant. You will pay

[Bubonichronic]

whos the guy at the end? he looks familiar
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[Bubonichronic]

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aw fuck it

[Yumans]

Dude, thats kind of trippy!! When we gonna stone together again? How are the clones I gave ya lookin today? Art thy prospering and increasing beautihood?

[Bubonichronic]

SMOKE BUD LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

click here now
the time now is 20:52 no its not

[Bubonichronic]

Eve is the bringer of beautiful sweet luscious ripe fruit ....salivating now i cant continue
its beautiful
oh baby yeeeeeeeeeeaaah

[Yumans]

Yes, Eve has turned into a beauty, her fruits will blossom and I will take the cherry! She is my love, my creation! MY PRECIOUS!!

[Bubonichronic]

the plants get a diluted dose (that includes 3 gal. brita water, ph about 6.4, i got low concentrations of ionic grow, Fossilfuel, and Nitrozime and mist spray water when i remember. dry drip system just 2 weeks old
Yumans: We are smoking(tobacco) now i thought?
well from yesterday they seem still really green but i have bad news, brace yourself, eve2 is dead and i had to flush her

[Bubonichronic]

Reply or die
no im no crazy you just think in am

[Bubonichronic]

beautiful arent they?

[DojaDave]

Nice ones! I'm thinking of cloning my plant, never done it before but i beefed up on info and I think i can manage it.

[wardrobe grower 78]

dojadave give the cloning a try,i took clones for the first time a week or so back,dipped em in clonex rooting hormone and popped em in to rockwool cubes-put them into a propagator under flouros,10 days later(today) there rooted and ready for potting as you can see from the few pics :)

1st pic is the donor plant

2nd pic,clones in propagator

3rd pic,rooted clone

4th pic,potted :D

[DojaDave]

Excellent work! I have one plant I grew from a bag seed and luckily it turn out female. Im 1 1/2 week into flowering and I guess nows is a good time to clone. Did you take cuttings from the top area of the plant or the bottom? If I had a decent camera i'd take a picture, all I have is my camera phone and it suks.

[wardrobe grower 78]

i took the clones from around the middle of the plant but i wasnt to fussy about it,just got my blade and chopped away,im taking the chance cloning this WW as its grown from a single seed i was given,hopefully will find out in a few days maybe a week as the mother(hopefully)got put into flower yesterday so ill find out soon if this effort was worth the bother but either way i see it as a bit of experience

[Bubonichronic]

you dont want to clone too late in the plants life cycle(flowering). Need good, healthy, FEMALE(FIND OUT BY TOPPING, little white hairs at nodes) plant in vegging stage and cut stem(45 degree angle) of healthy branch w/new leaves at top as well as a pair jus starting to form at tip. Clip off lower fan leaves leaving just the stem and two sets of leaves at crown, dip in rooting hormone(follow directions) Put in fluoros 24 hrs in moist tray(dome) root appear in 10-15 days, then plant

[DojaDave]

Well, I just made my first attempt at cloning, I hope i didn't screw anything up.I made 6 cuttings, each cut at a 45 degree angle, cut the fan leaves and left three sets of leaves, dipped them in hormone anti fungal rooting powder and placed them in rockwool cubes in a domed tray. What type fluro should i use and how many? Right now I put one 18" 15w fluro high in blue, will this be enough? Also, should I keep the vents open on the dome or closed? How often, at all, should I mist them?

[wardrobe grower 78]

dojo you might be ok with those flouros as the plant and clones you see in my pics were all done under 2x14 watt cool white flouros in a carboard box!
keep the vents closed on your dome mostly but open now and again or even remove the lid for a bit,as for the misting i never misted the clones i just sprayed the inside of the dome with water a good few times a day as it can dry up quickly under the light so keep an eye on it.make sure the leaves of your clones aint touchin the sides of the dome as it happened with 1 of mine and the leaf is suffering a little,also try not to spray so much that the water will drip from the dome onto the clones below.if you soaked your rockwool over night you shouldnt have to worry about watering until they are rooted and ready for the pot.
i checked my WW tonight and i got myself a lady!!3 days on 12/12 and got the result i was after so the clones were worth doing.i took the clones 7-8 days before putting in flower. your clones might droop and wilt but they will spring back and head for the light in a day or 2.
take it easy man

[DojaDave]

Thanks for the info bro! I checked on the clones today, they look like they're responding well to the light, no droopage yet. I'm gonna add one more 15 watt fluro just to make sure..Congrats on your lady WW!!

[wardrobe grower 78]

nice 1 dave,the extra 15 watt will make a difference with them,i chopped the top off 1 of my supperskunks today (44 days flower) about 60%-70% of the hairs were orange so i decided to cut just the top off!!
the bud is the length of my arm as you can see in the pic,although it aint that fat,but im pretty happy with it for bein my first time growin,ive learned from my mistakes in this grow and hopefully i can get a better result from the WW and its clones...

things i learned in first grow.

1.always use pots atleast double the size you think will be needed
2.TOP your plants
3.dont spray leaves every 3 days with anti-pest spray when you dont have any pests!!
4.take it very easy with ferts,(the soil i used was bio-bizz all-mix,no need to fert for the first 4-5 weeks)!! then start with 1/4-1/2 of recommended strength..............
im sure ill think of a few more but they dont spring to mind!

[Yumans]

Okay, lets see if anyone can answer this. With my nice bigger plant posted above, Eve, there is her clone, only about 3 inches tall, with 5 sets of leaves. I kind of want to put Eve into flowering, but since tehy are in the same hydro system, that would mean putting little 3 inch baby Eve into flowering. Should I wait until she grows a little more, or will she grow quite a bit during flowering?

[wardrobe grower 78]

yumans i dont have the experience to say if its ok to put clones into flowering at 3" tall although i can say im planning on leaving mine until there atleast 10"
if you took a few clones you could try putting just 1 into flower and see how it responds although i reckon you wouldnt get much bud out of it.
weve all gotta just give it a try and learn from our mistakes! :)

let me know if you decide to give it a try

[Yumans]

True, maybe ill do that, flower it now so as to know what happens:)

[wardrobe grower 78]

all 4 clones have rooted now and have been put into 5&1/2" pots where they will spend 2 weeks before going into 11.5 litres pots,i will send a pic later i cant be arsed just now :)

[wardrobe grower 78]

dojadave,how are those clones of yours getting on??
yumans did you decide to put 1 of your baby clones into flower??

[DojaDave]

Well, Its been about 4 days now, all 6 of them seem to be still kicken. The tips of some of the leaves have turned yellow, just the tips though, not sure if this is normal or not. I havn't misted them or anything, the cubes still look very moist and theres condensation built up on the sides of the trey dome. The mother plant is about 2 weeks into flowering and it looks great!! I dont have anything to produce CO2 though, other then myself, I deffinitely need to look into that..Hey nice arm length bud by the way!!

[DojaDave]

On a totally unrelated note, i'm starting a shroom grow, thinking maybe the CO2 from them might help the clones out? Anyway, it should be fun juggling poth projects!

[Yumans]

"all 4 clones have rooted now and have been put into 5&1/2" pots where they will spend 2 weeks before going into 11.5 litres pots"

Yo, you shouldn't put your plants through the stress of more than one transfer, put it right into the bigger bowl first time you transfer, theres no reason to have a medium sized bowl. And yes, I've put my plants into flower, including clone Eve(who is now 6 inches tall). Ill take some pictures later today and post, right now its chronocizing time

[wardrobe grower 78]

yumans ive got a big problem with space and i have no way of puttin them straight into 11.5 litre pots,its my only option till i get another grow room,i might be giving 2 of my clones to a m8 to help me out with space

where are those pics m8?

[Yumans]

Okay, here is Eve. My camera isnt the best and did not capture her beauty very well, but she is alot more impressive in person:). Although it could be me just being a proud father. Theres a picture of her roots too.

[DojaDave]

Just curious, once clones start to root, transfered to pots, and you've had them on a 24/0 light cycle, can you switch them to a 18/6 light cycle? or should you keep them in 24/0 till flowering?

[Skateboardingpunk420]

As long as your plant gets at least 14 hours of light a day, it will continue to vegate.

If you have fluorescent lighting, 24/7. HID, better reduce to 18/6 Give your plant a break from all the intense lighting, I think they'll probably thank you for it.

Reports have been all over the place saying HID lamps on 24/7 cause plants to grow better, as well as grow worse.. However, fluroescent lighting doesnt produce nearly the amount of lumens or color spectrums as HID, so 24/7 is great for them.

Go with your best judgment, give both a shot in the future to find out yourself.

if anyone disagrees, please argue with me, for Im not a professional

[DojaDave]

Well guys, I just discovered that one of my six clones has rooted, the other ones seem to be lagging if not dying. The one that rooted has perky leaves that have practacally no yellowing, while the others have yellowing tips and somewhat droopy.. The yellowing doesn't extend passed the tips though. Its been about 7 days since I cut them. Anyway, I hope the rest come through.

So from Here I guess I just transfer to a pot with potting soil. I have Soil at 7.0 ph and i'm gonna be using 5 gal plastic pots. Not sure how much I need to water on the transfer, gonna do some research on that right now. Should I place a small fan on a newly transfered clone to build the stalk and ventalation? or should I give it some time to recover? Anyway if you guys have time, I would appreciate any info! thanks!

[wardrobe grower 78]

soak the soil well with plenty water before transplanting and dont worry about watering for over a week or so depending on the strength of your lights,you can place a fan near them but not directly hitting the plant as it could cause it to fall over and give you something else to worry about!
take it easy m8

[DojaDave]

Thanks for the info WG78!
I Planted that one clone the other day and seems to be doing well, it has new growth on it. I just took a look at the clone dome and I have two more that have rooted, so thats 3 total so far out of 6. I'm gonna plant those in a few mins. The other three i guess will follow soon, but I'm stoked just to get 3 out of the whole process. I think I'm just gonna stick to using 18" Fluors for now till they get a little bigger. I have the mother flowering under 4 4' shoplights right now, all set up like a pyramid surrounding the plant. Each lamp has one cool white and one wram white. Should I strickly use warm white for flowering or is it good to have a combination of warm and cool light?

[wardrobe grower 78]

dave i think it will be ok to have a combination of both warm and cool light although you want more of the cool white while there in veg and more of the warm for flowering,your lights should be about perfect for them,well done with the clones bro,the 4 i took are doing great although 1 of them is struggling a little and im pretty sure its because that 1 i let the girlfriend do it and she touched the freshly cut end before putting it in the cloning gel which i about bit her head off for doing it lol,happy growin m8 ;)

[DojaDave]

Awesome, thanks again for the help!

I managed to get 4 out of six clones rooted and planted. Cant wait for the mother to finish flowering, got a long ways to go still.

[Yumans]

Kay, updated pictures of Eve, my beautiful baby girl, shes about to hit puberty, and shes a virgin, stayin that way:). Yes, that is all her except a very little bit on the bottom next to her, if u can tell.

[Ammie]

(tears) shes beautiful :D

[Torog]

Kay, updated pictures of Eve, my beautiful baby girl, shes about to hit puberty, and shes a virgin, stayin that way:). Yes, that is all her except a very little bit on the bottom next to her, if u can tell.
Howdy Yumans,

I'm kinda concerned about your lighting that you're using-it looks like you have the lights on the poles,too close. What kind of bulbs are in there ? Also,is that a hps security light I see ? It looks like you have it far enough away,also,is that a bubbler set-up that you're using ? Do you have any fans in there to help with the heat and respiration ?

If possible,you should add another hps if ya can,but only if you can remove the extra heat..adding another hps will make all the difference in yield and bud density.

Have a good one...Torog

[Yumans]

Hey Torog, no sadly those are all fluorescents... all I can afford, being a very broke college kid. Yes, that is a hydro bubbler. My roommate is trying to borrow a HPS from a friend, but its still in use(should be done soon) by someone else. Since floros are all I have right now, I have alot of them on her, and am getting a few more from my roomie when his crop is done in a few days. I do have afan on them, and use it, but heat tends to not be a problem, especially since I believe my strand is of a mexican type, and quite enjoys the heat, she sags and complains at relatively high temperatures compared to most other plants. REALLY hoping on getting that HPS, otherwise I shall have to make do with just floros(I've seen quite nice yields from floros).

[Bubonichronic]

hydros the way to go

[Bubonichronic]

try to keep up, , \-/

[wardrobe grower 78]

heres my WW mother 18 days into flower,it has only been ferted once in its lifetime and that was just yesterday with half the recommended dose of bio-bloom

[wardrobe grower 78]

heres my WW mother 18 days into flower,it has only been ferted once in its lifetime and that was just yesterday with half the recommended dose of bio-bloom flowerin fert

[Ammie]

hydros the way to go


Oh snap those are just clit bonering :D

lemme go change :eek:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nice ;)

[notanovice]

Oh snap those are just clit bonering :D

lemme go change :eek:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nice ;)




very useful info

[notanovice]

Kay, updated pictures of Eve, my beautiful baby girl, shes about to hit puberty, and shes a virgin, stayin that way:). Yes, that is all her except a very little bit on the bottom next to her, if u can tell.
not bad, not bad at all

[DojaDave]

Here she is almost 4 weeks into flowering... pictures taken with shitty camera..

[wardrobe grower 78]

looking good dave,heres a few pics of my 4 WW clones,notice how small 2 of them are,the 2 small 1`s i took a day after the first 2 which are growing great,i think this has happened because the plant may have been in shock after getting 2 cuttins taken the day before,i aint sure but its the only thing i can think of as there recieving the same light,same water and everythin else :confused:

[DojaDave]

Nice ones WG78!

I think the two smaller ones are growing slower coz they dont have drip pans like the other two and feel left out..lol

I cant wait till my lady finishes flowering, I got atleast 7 more weeks to go I think..

[wardrobe grower 78]

lol dave,i know its about 2 weeks since last post but thought id give the thread a bump as they may say,well ive run out of space for my 4 clones in that little cardboard box! so ive decided to give 2 of them to my friends work m8 who i dont know but the guy is on his 4th crop with good results and hes now flowering MAZAR at this point in time,so ill be giving him 2 of the clones in a day or 2 in return of a smoke of his mazar and the WW when he finishes it,the prob with space is making me keep the plants root bound in 6" pots,which i gather is stressful but its the only thing stopping them growing wild which i dont need at the moment with the space issues,he is getting the smallest 2 plants of the 4 obviously lol,then i can batter my 2 remaining into 11.5 litre pots.im gonna have to check my dates to find out how long the mother has been flowerin and decide when to put the clones in alongside it.ill post a few pics later,maybe a day or 2 im a lazy funt!!
anyhows im off to heat up some sausage rolls i got from GREGGS in the nuker lol

[DojaDave]

Hey WG78!

I'm having space trouble myself, I'm waiting for my lady to finish flowering so I can move my 5 clones I got from her into her space. Should be any day now hopefully!

[cannabinoid]

Are clones ready for flowering earlier than seedlings? I know that the rule of thumb for seedlings is at least 12 inches high, two months or more of veg, etc...

[wardrobe grower 78]

cannabinoid im plannin on puttin my clones to flower at 12",there around 9-10 inches just now,heres pics of the mother 46 days into flowering,as far as i know it should be ready for harvest in 14 days although i plan on cutting it down in another 9 days so i can get my clones transplanted into bigger pots and put in to flower.
dave have you harvested your plant,how is it smokin ??

[DojaDave]

Good god man, that is one beautiful plant!! :eek:

I chopped mine on Dec. 24th, she still needs a few more weeks of drying and manicuring plus cure. I tried a small nug last night and i'm more than pleased with the results! Here are some pics :D


Her 5 daughters are now in her old closet under her light, much more happier now. :)

[DojaDave]

The smoke has a couch-lock, heady high to it followed with an extreme urge to munch on anything in sight. A very good, long lasting high. The trichs were mostly cloudy, with a few amber and few clear when I chopped her.

[wardrobe grower 78]

those buds are lookin good dave,have a smoke of this shit!!! get chinese eye man,im lookin forward to choppin the ww in a week or 2,i should get alot more from this plant than the superskunks

[DojaDave]

<---officially chinese-eyed. Nice nugulars ya got there Wardrobe! Hope ya had a kick-azz new years! Thanks again for helping me clone my plant several posts ago, everything turned out great. This hits for you! :D

[wardrobe grower 78]

ello,chopped the WW down tonight,transplanted 2 of the 4 clones and put them 2 flower starting tonight.
heres a few pics

[DojaDave]

Sweeet!, now slap a label with my address on that box and send it on over to me!lol :D


Lookin good m8! Whats the smoke like from WW?
I just found out the other day that i'm growing a strand called pineapple bigbuds.

[wardrobe grower 78]

lol dave thats a thought,start sellin some pot on the net :D
not had a sample of the smoke yet as im goin to dry it and cure it before sample so maybe be havin my first doobie from it in around 21-25 days.i wish it would dry quicker as im runnin low on my superskunk buds,as you can see ive only got just over a half ounce of them left!

[wardrobe grower 78]

heres a few pics of the clones,ive just tied them down damn low!!!!