Clones and Growns

[la marea]

hey, well I've posted a few threads relating these various topics but i come armed with (albeit) shitty pictures.

So ive got two chambers, a veg/mother chamber with a 400 MH and a cooltube. No ventilation or heating problems with that baby.

However, the flowering chamber is much bigger, about 1.5 times the size running a 1000 W HPS and 15 grapefruit clones. There is a large house fan for moving air inside teh chamber, about a 95 cfm fan doing air in, a 130 cfm fan that connects to the carbon filter outside and does the air out, and finally, a 115 sized inline fan connected to the cool tube. The air in for the tube comes from outside the chamber and the air out (obviously) goes out into another room. Temps were baaad at first but are now steaader around 74 F. However, the light is a good 2 feet above the clones. I know they need higher intensity, but I do not want to harm them, so I'm takin her easy. Anyways, we were using anti wilt on the babies when the heat was near 90, but I think it may have damaged them slightly. There has been very slight growth from them in about almost a week which I am hopefully attributing to stress, n heat, and I did use nutes, and was scoled and haven't since. Other than that, should I increase the light proximity to the clones, Should I eventually (when i have the money) buy a 300 dollar fan (im from vancouver and have had a tough time finding high cfm fans for under 300 bucks even thoug there are a shitload of hydro stores around). Here aer som pics, thanks yalllll.[attachment=o102377]

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[la marea]

the attachments arn't cooperating but the last pic is an example of the 15 clones ive got under the 1000 watt HPS. thanks

[faithless]

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Hard to tell from the pic, but from personal experience, clones are much more fragile than seedlings of the same size. You'll have to play it by ear and watch for any signs of burning.
I think you're probably at around a good height for now, if they're not showing any signs of burns that is. Slowly lower during a week or so.
You'll simply have to keep monitoring them and raise the lamp quickly if they begin protesting.

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[TheKidThatLovesMary]

nice i see the pics on this Thread so no need for an explanation on the other thread.

[bejay]

assuming the clones are rooted well would start feeding them at a reduced strength at first then increase the strength if they respond well. and start lowering your light a few inches a day if you can, with the ventilation you have now you may not be able to get it very close as it is underpowered for cooling a 1000 and a better blower for cooling the light is something you should do when you can afford to.
you cant really even compare seedlings to clones once a clone is rooted it should take off and start growing much faster than a seedling of the same size ever would and using nutrients is common as they usually can handle it without any problems the only reason you may not need nutrients would be if the soil mix contained sufficient nutrients for good growth for awhile.

[Racerx]

Planting a clone can often stress it for an entire week. this is the time when you want to make sure you do not damage them because they are at their most vulnerable. Keeping the 2 feet away is fine at this stage. Once you feel that they have adjusted to the different light and are looking stronger, like said, slowly lower the plant and monitor it often. Depending on how established the clones really are, things can do sour real quick if you lower it to quickly. But if they can handle the 1000 watt from 2 feet away with no wilting at all...you could probablly lower soon. I would wait until you see new growth coming out and then lower it.

[la marea]

yo, thanks to all the posts. I think everyone seems to be coming to a close agreement, which is:
1) CLONES are probably fragile right now, so overloading light, nutes, or even water, I assume, could be detremental.
2) The fan is working, but I agree, we need to get a more powerful one.
3) Keep a close eye and adjust as necessary. This is where growing seems to become less of a scientific method and more of an art, like taking care of a pet or a child. I will keep close tabs on my babies and post better pics soon. I'm on vacation, but my room mates (we are all in on this together) will be paying sharp attention. Thanks to all again, peace.

[la marea]

ps, anyone have any ideas as to the anti-wilt? should I stay away?

[harris7]

well i dont think clogging their stomata is a good idea. The plant cannot properly control it's internal temperature without it.

I would mist them frequently if you are worried about them drying out. or increase room humidity