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pisshead
11-23-2006, 05:51 AM
"As Long As You're Not Doing Anything Wrong, You Have Nothing To Worry About"

Tired cliche to cover big brother agenda doesn't wash anymore Steve Watson

Infowars.net (http://infowars.net/)
Wednesday, November 22, 2006
I am personally sick of hearing the above phrase used whenever the latest surveillance tool is trotted out and used on the public as a means of control. It's worn out and doesn't work anymore. People are finally beginning to stop laughing at the madness of the big brother society, but will it be too late when people begin to see the seriousness of the threat?
Endlessly used as an excuse to pass into everyday use policies and technology that are eroding our freedoms and giving our governments more control and responsibility over our lives are phrases such as "Why worry if you have nothing to hide?"
Since when were long established civil liberties and the citizen's right to privacy replaced with this "new freedom", this "freedom lite" shall we call it, this guilty until proven innocent mantra?
The problem lies with what is considered to be "something to hide". I don't want to be filmed 24 hours a day, everywhere I go, does that mean I've got something to hide? I don't much like the idea of being fingerprinted if i want to go into a bar, does that mean I have got something to hide? Yes, if I am an enemy of the gestapo in the 1930s, but no if I am a free citizen in 21st century Britain or America.
Lets take a look at a few of the latest headlines to feature in our big brother news section:


Fox News Trumpets Pentagon Spy Drones Listening In On Americans (http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/221106Fox.htm)


"It's the first time anywhere in the United States that one of these big things has flown on an official air combat command mission," Steve Doocy noted. Brian Kilmeade followed up: "Well, you know what? I love it. They gotta be listening in, listening to the right people. If they're listening in at my house, they're gonna be bored to tears." Doocy jumped in to say that he "wasn't sure" that the drone could listen in, but "they can certainly see what's going on in your back yard. ... I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you're not doing anything against the law."



Child database 'will ruin family privacy' (http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/221106database.htm)


Parents will be devalued and family privacy shattered by the mass surveillance of all 12 million children in England and Wales, says a report today commissioned by Parliament's Information Commissioner. In what is likely to be a major embarrassment to Tony Blair, it says proposals for a £224 million database containing details of every child will waste millions of pounds, undermine parental authority and actually put children in more danger. Mr Blair defended the super nanny idea saying it was right to give families a "helping hand". "No one's talking about interfering with normal family life," he added.



Documents show U.S. Defense Department tracked anti-Iraq war activities (http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/221106documents.htm)



An anti-terrorist database used by the Defense Department in an effort to prevent attacks on military installations included intelligence tips about antiwar planning meetings held at churches, libraries, college campuses and other locations, newly disclosed documents show. McPhearson said he found the references to his group in the Talon database unsurprising and he said the group continued to use public settings and the Internet to plan its protests. "We don't have anything to hide," he said. "We're not doing anything illegal."
So in just three examples there, you could be watched in your own home by a military surveillance plane, all aspects of your kids' lives could be put on a database to make sure you are an adequate parent, and if you don't agree with a government policy you may be surveilled and placed on an anti-terrorist database. The information gathered will not be available to you but will be available to the government and the government's intelligence personnel.
Is all that OK so long as you have "nothing to hide"? Are you comfortable with that? Some may say "yeah but it probably won't happen to me." Well, you'll never know until your actions are deemed to be categorized by the authorities as "something wrong".

There are those who still deny that we have moved into a big brother society and that it affects their lives at all. For those who immediately think this applies to them, please watch this film (http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/211106_b_BB.htm).
These people, far from living in denial, have just not noticed all the methods of surveillance that they are under. This is not surprising, given that the very essance of surveillance is that it is covert. It is not arrogant or elitist to say this, after all how many people really know what the TALON programme is or how RFID works?
This is the most dangerous aspect of the big brother society, the fact that it is creeping and that there is always scope for expansion. How many times is it relevant to say "this will not erode your liberties" about another form of surveillance? If you took every aspect of the big brother society featured in the film linked above and suddenly introduced it all at once into a society where it was unknown, would the people therein consider it to be a threat to their liberties?
I think they'd consider it to be an all out war on them.
There is a government ploy of saying that if you have nothing to hide in our modern society you should react to these measures by being bold, up front and proud that you are a law abiding citizen, you should revel in the big brother society and not shrink away and try to avoid it.
In this sense the new forms of technology being used for surveillance and information gathering are pushed as progressive and a step in the right direction when they are in fact the exact opposite. Strip away all the technology and the myth that they keep you any safer (put everything under surveillance and you end up missing the real threats) and you are essentially left with a never ending multiplication of methods of covertly gathering information on everything you do. In a dictatorship this is progressive, in a free society it is regressive.

Psycho4Bud
11-23-2006, 06:05 AM
I see ol' Alex Jones is getting into myspace.com now.......lol....another outlet for sales I guess. http://www.myspace.com/alex_infowarrior

Really to bad........it shows the pics of some of these fine journalists.
Just wondering something.....is this great Steve Watson old enough to hold a valid drivers license.....I won't ask about legal drinking age.....LOL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Psycho4Bud
11-23-2006, 06:13 AM
I see he uses this song on his home page in Myspace.........do you REALLY think these artists want to be associated with scum like A.J.?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CM

Have a good one!

mrdevious
11-23-2006, 07:50 AM
I agree that this "if you're doing nothing wrong, there's nothing to worry about" is bullshit. The whole reason for privacy laws is that a certain degree of activism must be allowed within a democratic society. If somebody breaks the law to a severe enough degree so as to make people outside themselves aware of it, then the cops can jump on their ass. But when it comes to things like the right to consume weed or other entheogens, the right to have gay sex in your own home, the right to worship some diety that may be very unpopular, these are not things that society universally agrees upon. And as such, in a democratic society I believe we have a right to live against what the law sets as actions which are "allowed" when they do not represent the full spectrum of the people. Laws are set to appease the majority because it results in the most number of people being appeased, but the rights of minorities cannot then be thrown out the window. This is what leads to injustices like 48% of a state wanting weed legal, but still being suppressed and persecuted because a slightly larger portion of the populace disagrees with their lifestyle. Protection of minority rights has unfortunately always been a key problem in democracies, which is why they need to become considerably more proportionate in their representation (as is every-so-slowly happening).

Just a note though, this is getting a big rediculous that the only sites cited with these types of articles are PrisonPlanet and InfoWars. I mean come on, there are other sources out there, and ones that aren't so clearly biased. If we want a daily report on what Inforwars is raving about, we'll visit their site.

B.Basher
11-23-2006, 11:29 AM
Mmm, hmmm!!

Seems a little hard to digest to me.

It's kinda like germs and bacteria. Noone believed they existed until people started dying. The fact is, I don't really see this stuff happening... anywhere. I know that's the whole idea, but what do you propose is the answer to a "threat" you don't see and doesn't really affect your life in any way on a day to day basis? Everyone spas out and start a revolution? Perhaps that will be the case when the feds start busting in peoples doors and coming down on civilians in their own homes, but the fact is that just doesn't happen. "Not yet" you might say, but until then, all I have is the shaken word of bunch of strangers on the internet.

I used to be into this whole big-brother-society-in-the-making deal but the way I see it, CCTV cameras arn't a threat. Homeowners and company owners have them installed for security. There isn't one pointing in my window or even anywhere outside my house for about 2 miles. I've never been randomly stopped, searched or contacted by the police and don't know anyone that has. Until the shit hits the fan, i'm pretty content and your gonna have to try harder. ;)

Plus the article has an arrogant tone which makes it as hard to digest as any right wing propoganda of a similar nature.

Hamlet
11-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Just a note though, this is getting a big rediculous that the only sites cited with these types of articles are PrisonPlanet and InfoWars. I mean come on, there are other sources out there, and ones that aren't so clearly biased. If we want a daily report on what Inforwars is raving about, we'll visit their site.

amen

andruejaysin
11-23-2006, 05:18 PM
[FONT=Arial][B][SIZE=5]"As Long As You're Not Doing Anything Wrong, You Have Nothing To Worry About"That's just it, I am doing something wrong.