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BabyFacedAbortion
11-22-2006, 03:10 AM
errg..these past two days have been pretty shitty. Today my brother (14 years old) came home high on diesel, he was basically retarded so I know he wasn't lying and he told me it wasn't his first time (he dabbles in a lot of drugs, sadly). We don't live together so I can't keep an eye on him at ALL times, or this would NOT have happpened. What would you guys say to him? I want to scream at him but I know he won't listen..

4gan2ja0
11-22-2006, 03:12 AM
tell him to keep it to weed, and that youre worried and shit

Bong30
11-22-2006, 03:15 AM
Keep up the fight.....baby. Keep after him the best you can, dont push too hard cause you dont want him to leave.....

We bolth know that he will have to hit rock bottom to come up.....by him self.


Just tell him you love him, and it hurts you....


I was that little brother once....Now I tell my sis whats up......LOL

hang in there Baby.

baisez le monde.
11-22-2006, 03:16 AM
you've just got to tell him, without scolding , that he has to be careful with what hes doing. i mean i dont know about you, but hard drugs fucked up my life for a good two years and just let him know how much you care about him and that you don't want shit like that to happen to him. ending up in hospitals aint fun. tell him that its okay to experiment or whatever cause it would be hypocrisy to tell him not to but LET HIM KNOW that theres a thin line between experimentation and abuse.

ToDrunkToFish
11-22-2006, 03:22 AM
Diesal as in the gas? Thats fucked up. Threaten to keep that shit low or scare him youll tell your parents or whatever. If not let him fuck up his brain that shit must screw it up.

orangeman
11-22-2006, 03:23 AM
When you say he was high on diesel...are you talking about the strain Sour or NYC diesel or somethin else?

SocksThaClown
11-22-2006, 03:26 AM
When you say he was high on diesel...are you talking about the strain Sour or NYC diesel or somethin else?

I think she means diesel gasoline.

BabyFacedAbortion
11-22-2006, 03:27 AM
when I say diesel i mean a mix of basically all snort-able drugs. Specifically herioin and coke and a few other things that I'm not positive on. It's cut with some fucked up shit as well. I've never played around with it before and I didn't even know it was possible to get it in my town, but I guess anything's possible if you know the right people. Thanks guys, I really really appreciate the advice.!

orangeman
11-22-2006, 03:33 AM
when I say diesel i mean a mix of basically all snort-able drugs. Specifically herioin and coke and a few other things that I'm not positive on. It's cut with some fucked up shit as well. I've never played around with it before and I didn't even know it was possible to get it in my town, but I guess anything's possible if you know the right people. Thanks guys, I really really appreciate the advice.!

Damn...that's really messed up. Did you ask him why he did it? You really should explain to him that theres no point in moving on to harder drugs marijuana really is strong enough lol! If he really just wants to get high then you should tell him to grow his own. Hey, anythings better than dying from an overdose of some shitty chemicals.

BabyFacedAbortion
11-22-2006, 03:38 AM
He just got out of a detox program (only a two week program) that his mom sent him into, and he's having a hard time with this girl (total bitch) so I'm thinkin' he's trying to escape his problems. I'm going to have a sitdown chat with him tommorrow night, wish me luck :)

SocksThaClown
11-22-2006, 03:40 AM
He just got out of a detox program (only a two week program) that his mom sent him into, and he's having a hard time with this girl (total bitch) so I'm thinkin' he's trying to escape his problems. I'm going to have a sitdown chat with him tommorrow night, wish me luck :)

good luck, girl! :p

Bong30
11-22-2006, 03:48 AM
Good luck....your a great sister.

Mean Green Charlene
11-22-2006, 04:00 AM
Let him know to come to you instead of drugs for his problems.
And just stick with green :)
goodluck

wayoftheleaf
11-22-2006, 04:07 AM
If it was my little brother, I would first beat his ass until he understood he did something dumb, the beat his ass again for not realizing it sooner. Then id give hima bowl and say straighten the fuck up.


But that is just me

dejayou30
11-22-2006, 04:12 AM
when i first read it, i thought it was diesel the strain of cannabis. thats fucked up though, 14 and already that heavy into drugs? not a good thing. he's not going to quit unless he wants to though. i'd try to get other family members involved.

ronjohn420
11-22-2006, 04:15 AM
Good luck....your a great sister.

great advice bong

and BFA thats all you really can do is just show him you love him and that youre on his side (but dont want to see him hit the floor "rock-bottom")

it took me 2 trips to rehab, a year in NA and 1 2year DL revocation untill i was homeless (my parents kicked me out) to realize how bad i was.....

but above all, i realized the love people put in to tryin to change me from fucking up

just keep up the love..., i know it must hurt......

very sorry,
Ronjohn

slipknotpsycho
11-22-2006, 04:15 AM
when i first read it, i thought it was diesel the strain of cannabis. thats fucked up though, 14 and already that heavy into drugs? not a good thing. he's not going to quit unless he wants to though. i'd try to get other family members involved.

that just makes it even less likely he'll listen to you, and even less likely that he'll change it...

Mean Green Charlene
11-22-2006, 04:21 AM
hes already, what seems like, going through a bad time. beating him up would only upset him more, and thus him doing more drugs.

Frivolous248
11-22-2006, 04:24 AM
Wow..."diesel" sounds fucked up.

I don't know if I'd get others involved. He could lose trust/respect for you for not keeping it confidential.

Do some research on "diesel" and show him what it does maybe. Hmm, erowid slang says its simply "Heroin"...

Thats...not healthy. Most likely, hes gonna do what hes gonna do, just like most of us smokers who don't care what others tell us. Just have a talk with him, not much else you can do.

couch-potato
11-22-2006, 04:26 AM
When you say he was high on diesel...are you talking about the strain Sour or NYC diesel or somethin else?


NYC diesel is bomb bud... I love it :thumbsup:
Sour Diesel... my most hated strain actually

partyguy420
11-22-2006, 04:49 AM
well... if it was my brother, that i cought doing anything worse then pot, i would first kick the persons ass that gave it to him, then i would kick his ass... then i would tell me dad to beat his ass... then my sister, then my mom... then i would throw his ass in rehab then after the intesive rehab...i would toss his ass in military school... then i would go back to the person that sold it to him, kick his ass agin... then after my bro got out of military school, i would make him go kick the guys ass that gave it to him...

when i was doing meth... and crack... i told all of the guys that i ever bought off of, that if i ever find out about my brother or sister over at there house buying anything other then a bag of pot, that i was gonna kill them... infact i told my best friend that i would kill him if he ever brought the shit around my sister...

NextLineIsMine
11-22-2006, 04:51 AM
If hes got the connect for that it shows hes hanging out with fucked up people doing fucked up things most of the time. Not to demonize but they are sketchy drugs.

When you have your chat dont come across as bossy or in control, or you'll just seem like big mean sister and he wont listen. Just have a spliff with him and see what he'll tell you about his personal life.

VoidLivesOn
11-22-2006, 04:56 AM
He just got out of a detox program (only a two week program) that his mom sent him into, and he's having a hard time with this girl (total bitch) so I'm thinkin' he's trying to escape his problems. I'm going to have a sitdown chat with him tommorrow night, wish me luck :)


do you have a car or license or anything? or a tight group of good friends that might be impressionable on him? or how about a cool b/f or guy friend he can look up to.

have him around you more, talk to him, let him realize the group he is currantly with thats persuading him to get into harder drugs like that are a waste of time. sure its alot of energy but you would do it if you did in fact really care...

Smokalotxxx
11-22-2006, 12:11 PM
errg..these past two days have been pretty shitty. Today my brother (14 years old) came home high on diesel, he was basically retarded so I know he wasn't lying and he told me it wasn't his first time (he dabbles in a lot of drugs, sadly). We don't live together so I can't keep an eye on him at ALL times, or this would NOT have happpened. What would you guys say to him? I want to scream at him but I know he won't listen..

Diesel?
I would say to him that life is too good for that kinda shit.
Teens these days...
Good luck with your bother!:smokin:

thcbongman
11-22-2006, 01:23 PM
I'm against snitching, but comes a time you gotta drop the ball to your parents. 14 years old is too young to be fucking with heroin. Don't let this slip, this isn't a little pot. This is heroin, this is his life were talking about.

Cyclonite
11-22-2006, 01:33 PM
Iv seen some of my friends go down that road...we both smoked, he got into meth. Turned into a thief, stole from everyone. Then was homeless...then rehab. Next was prison...he did his time and is just finishing rehab. I got a call from him a few months ago, first one in years. Seems better now but threw away his entire life. Do what ever it takes...get him to be a complete pothead even, trade one vice for another. Most people can do that easier...Im scared my sister will do something like that one day...shes so easily influenced.

Storm Crow
11-22-2006, 06:34 PM
Now the problem that I was dealing with in my little brother was a bit different (and some 40 years ago), but the same method might work. Unless you have been very unobservant, you doubtless have "something on" your brother that you kept quiet about to the parents.

"Remember way back when you ________ed and I kept quiet about it? So you know I don't like to tell on you. Well, this latest bit of drug taking, has got me freaked out- have you looked up what it can do to you? (have this thread bookmarked and maybe erowid's info and have him read it) I don't mind you getting high, but you're 14, for goodness sake, don't get strung out this soon! I WILL tell Mom and Dad, rather than let you become a homeless, strung-out addict! I don't want to tell them what you've been doing, but I want even less to find out some day that you ODed in an alley somewhere. I love you, even if you are a bit of an idiot at times. So stop doing that shit and we have no problem. Want to burn one?"

Now translate that into your own family's "language" and tell him. Of course, that was 40 years ago and another disfunctional family. So good luck, my dear, whatever course of action you take. Your brother is lucky he has a sister like you! :thumbsup: Granny Storm Crow :stoned:

napolitana869
11-22-2006, 07:07 PM
I'm worried about you, but I really respect how much you take upon yourself. It's not fair that these are the types of problems you have to face at your age. What ever you end up doing, don't let your brother forget that you love him, and you're worried about him because of how much you love him. Good luck

chisme
11-22-2006, 08:04 PM
Well about 3 weeks ago my best mate told me he wanted to try crack

"just to see what its like"


Hes a big cunt ...allot bigger then me

i looked him in the eye with only type of look u can give your best mate to let em know that your DEAD seriouse.. and said "if i ever see u "trying" crack im gonna put a wooden chair around your head...

he has'nt tried it yet....i know its totally diffrent with your brother but i dunno what other advice to give....err yeah so i geuss....i dunno



sorry first joint of the day post...gotta say something even if it doesnt really help

good luck

Skink
11-22-2006, 08:33 PM
I did not read the whole thread I am only posting to You and what I skimed... I know a full blown Heroin addict,,,he is My only nephew or niece for that matter... I know why Dan is fucked up,dysfunctional family and afraid because he has not seen what should be done in life,No role model so to speak...

You need to be there for him as a teacher not as a rat... Get inside his head,find what his fears are,,, and make him know you are there always... explain in a way as not to threaten,threats only compound the injury if he is scared about his future...

this you and many will disagree,,,but find the scuzball selling to him and rat his ass to the wall!!! You gotta put him/her out!!!,,,if only to buy time...

Keep him busy with things he likes to do...

AlwaysBlazed
11-22-2006, 10:37 PM
Man, sorry BFA. If any of my family members every got into other shit I would have to lay the smackdown on them and snap them out of it. I'm lucky though nobody in my family is into anything hardcore, just me and my dad (and on occassions, my younger sister) on the pipe.

Pipe Dreams
11-23-2006, 01:32 AM
Punch him in the head (not the face, back of the head or something) and then tell him if he keeps fucking around youre gonna drop the info in his mom.


I beat the HELL outta my brother when I caught him doing coke, but I didnt tell my parents.

Cooler Then Jesus
11-23-2006, 03:41 AM
nothing you can say or do will change his mind. hes to young to understand.

BabyFacedAbortion
11-23-2006, 03:57 AM
I'm sort of dating his best friend (he's almost 16, I'm not a pedofile lol), so having my 'boyfriend' hang out with him wouldn't lead to him looking up to him.

Basically, I had a small chat with my teachers (my brother and I are in the same class..alternative school) about his actions when I wasn't in school the other day, and basically he was withdrawing really badly but seemed able to hold a conversation and they said he seemed really in touch, meaning dead sober. Which is a good thing, they're keeping their eye on him too, so if I can't rat on him, which I probably can't..they can do it for me, if worst comes to worst.

My best guy friend is his best friend as well, and he's promised me IF he was to do "D" again, he'd atleast be able to watch over him..which I guess makes me feel better.

My partner thing, is also going to be spending a little more time with him on my request but doesn't know why (He used to be a dope fiend or something...and would litterally kill him).

And right now,

I'm trying to get in touch with my baby brother to just ask a few questions and let him know how I feel right now.


Thank you all, again for so many responses, I honestly appreciate it so much.

mamma puffpuff420
11-23-2006, 04:49 AM
this is a tuff 1 babyface
id like say kick his ass good
but it cood make things worse
hes lucky 2 have a sister that cares
talk 2 him tell him hes wrong in doin that shit
if he wont listin
then kick his ass
and the fucker that got him started on that shit 2
its a sad situation
good luck girl