Rolling without a roach??

[1337_toker]

Hey people,

I find it hard to find good material for roaches... the card that the papers are in works well but then there is nothing to protect the papers.

So, I'm wondering if there is an easy method of twisting the end so it isn't too tight but still doesn't let weed fly into your mouth. Or some ideas for roach paper would be much appreciated also :D

Thanks!

[Frivolous248]

Plenty of people roll without roaches. It ain't too hard. Just twist it, maybe wet it a bit so it sticks better and doesn't untwist.

[orangeman]

I roll better without filters or roaches..w/e you wanna call 'em. Sometimes I actually find it harder to roll with the filter lol!

[AlwaysBlazed]

yeah I never use a roach thing I just shape it a certain way

[slipknotpsycho]

if i do use a filter, it's always stuffed in after i'm done rolling... i can't roll the weed and filter together and make a good j... as for what to use, do you smoke cigarettes? if so start buying them in boxes, if you buy them in soft packs, the tops of cigarette packs have all kinds of pre-cut roach type things in them.... my favorite to use being the inside lip on the front of the pack... or, start keeping buisness cards in your wallet, those are good too... just rip off a piece as you need it..

[Frivolous248]

I roll better without filters or roaches..w/e you wanna call 'em. Sometimes I actually find it harder to roll with the filter lol!

Same here. I only rolled with a roach once, but I couldn't get it to maintain its shape. The opening was too big and I got a lil weed in my mouth, and still didn't get to smoke the joint all the way down, so I don't bother with them. The roach was smaller no doubt, but I wanted to smoke it till there was nothing but the thing I used to make the roach.

[JaggedEdge]

I never roll with one. I usually just throw what is left of the joint in a cig pack and when I get low I unroll the roaches (what is left of the joint) and roll a new joint. We have alway's called the edge of the joint that is hard to smoke the roach. Different terms for different places I guess.

[shovlboy]

I've never rolled with a roach...Just bend the corners a bit on one end. and practice practice practice

[ghettoBlunt]

I roll better without filters or roaches..w/e you wanna call 'em. Sometimes I actually find it harder to roll with the filter lol!

same boat man, i roll sometimes with a roach (i call it a filter, tho it doesnt really filter shit)...but yeah its a lot easier for me at least cause thats how i started, and for whoever asked this question, just roll like you do normally, but just think of how small the mouth should be to get a good amount of smoke without weed in your mouth and how finely grinded up your bud is, it just takes a few j's before you figure it out dont worry. what i use also is grab the end you're planning on lighting, pinch it and move your hand like you would a tin of chew with mad centripetal force..this gets all the excess bud, which is likely to wind up chillin in your mouth, to fall out and you can pack it in the end, or tuck it away for later, and soon you'll be rolling it perfectly

[AR15]

I always called it a crutch. I just use 3.5x5 in index cards and fold it over once. Cut it to fit the end perfectly around the walls of the joint and have it end (the lenght) right when the joint ends. Really you can use whatever you have around you, improvise. Basically, if I don't have an index card around, I'll look around me for whatever is the closest to what I want. If it's too thin or weak I just fold it over like I do the index card.

I like it because when you get down to the end of the joint, its harder to get a good hit off when its burning your fingers and shit and you're trying to keep a hold of it and at the same time not pinch it too tight so it doesn't close the end of the joint. This way, it keeps then end open so you can get fat hits off while your fingers are somewhat safe(r).

Weed in my mouth isn't really too much of a problem as I usually pack it in well and it's usually sticky enough to say in the joint, besides I really don't mind too much. But for those that do, instead of having the crutch tailor made to the joint, you can just break off more than you need and spiral it around or make an S (less blockage but still ok) and that should keep the weed in pretty well.

[aznson01]

when my friends and i roll blunts we never use roaches but for j's we tend to roll them then use a the the on the end of a pen cap to push the weed in, or a stylus from a cell phone and then once theres enough room take the roach and stuff it in there

[S.P.Q.R.]

I roll with roaches all the time. Never smoke a joint without one.

[NightProwler]

dude dont ude the filter, and dont even twist the end. you'll be fine. as long as your not sucking on that thing like a fucking vacuum no bud is going to fly into your mouth. when theres no filter, and no twisting, you get teh best hits. believe me on this man, this is how i smoke j's

[kid charlemagne]

i agree, filterless

[invision]

when i roll blunts a ise roaches, believe it or not a roach can make a blunt burn nice and even the whole way, when i roll a joint i use nothing.

[slipknotpsycho]

when i roll blunts a ise roaches, believe it or not a roach can make a blunt burn nice and even the whole way, when i roll a joint i use nothing.

how would a peice of cardboard no longer then an inch stuffed int he end of a blunt, help it burn evenly? i'm sorry but i see absolutely no way that the roach could affect how the blunt burns..

[JordaN23]

Dude twist both ends up. THe end you want to be the roach, flatten it a bit, then cut it till theres a little hole to suck out of, and you won't get weed in ya mouth.

[justinsane]

out of 1000 joints... 0/1000 have had roaches.

[invision]

how would a peice of cardboard no longer then an inch stuffed int he end of a blunt, help it burn evenly? i'm sorry but i see absolutely no way that the roach could affect how the blunt burns..

a roach helps keep the end of the blunt cylinder, when a roach is not used the end you hit with ends up getting crushed reducing the amount of even air flow into the blunt thus creating a uneven burn.

[slipknotpsycho]

i've never had that problem, i've never in my life rolled a blunt with a roach, and i never have had a problem with uneven burning..

[invision]

i've never had that problem, i've never in my life rolled a blunt with a roach, and i never have had a problem with uneven burning..

dude really its just advice....take it for what it is :thumbsup:

[Dankmike]

Never have rolled with roach's, i think its more hassle than what its worth.

plus im a roach killer.

[CYRAX]

I roll better without filters or roaches..w/e you wanna call 'em. Sometimes I actually find it harder to roll with the filter lol!

I can agree with you on that, I've used nothing but my hands, the weed, and the wrap since the first time I attempted to roll, got the hang of it after a while... :thumbsup:

[HK Slyone]

I roll with a roachs what I do is fold the roach one way and then the other and you roll it up to a O but instead of being a plain O there is a S in there now if you fold more times you can get a W or M in there and that will stop the shit flying into your month and then you still can smoke right down to the end!
Just my 2 cents!

[huh]

movie stubs are the best. tear a piece of that shit off and it works awesome.

[MastaChronic]

i roll all the time w/o a roach, dont harm it none

[LIP]

I always use a roach, it keeps the end nice and good, keeps the shape and you can get a way bigger hit, and no wasting weed.

[MacWQ33]

Never used one before.

[Zoosh]

Pot shouldnt go into your mouth anyway, if you dont suck it and your packing it tight.

[LIP]

^ Your not thinking of the right roach.