my first indoor grow...

[aznson01]

well heres my first grow

i have a 2 frech door closet that im using half of the closet, i lined the walls with aluminum foil, made a false wall of aluminum foil, and covered the back of the fresh door with foil, also i took cardboard and cut it to fit the floor and covered it with foil, since its a clothing closet i have 2 ballasts (1 for each light) both with one 150watt plant light in it

-2 plant lights
-300 watts
-foil walls all around and floor
-lights 24/7
-6"pots for each plant
-1 dro plant 1 mids plant
-both plants are using miracle grow moisture control potting mix
-miracle grow liquid houseplant food
-shultz plant food plus 10-15-10

i plan on buying a thermometer for the closet, an hps light, and a humidifier measuerer thing i guess lol

questions (keep in mind its my first time, and i have done research, but i sure i don't know everything):
1. are my lights good enough? i plan on getting an hps before budding, should i lower them? only keep one on?
2. how many watts should the hps be and at what height should i put it at?
3. how often should i water them and what plant food should i use? how much water should i put in?

thats it for now

the pictures are of the closet and supplies before i started i'll be posting more....

[Pezzo]

BRILLIENT, thats the best setup ive herd of so far m8! the closet looks like it already has white walls so u didnt need to foil them reli...
Miracle grow isnt the best to use but ppl have done well wiv it.
answers...
1. the lights sound gd although i havent sin them, i think ill leave that for some braniac to tell u lol.
2. Depending on the size of ur grow area... how big is it? work out u need between 2,000 and 5,000 lumens per sq ft and the sun gives out 10,000lm/sq'
3. watering is all over this forum. be sure to have a look.. its best to water when they are dry and are light to pic up, u then water untill water comes out the bottom of the pot.

hope this helps m8. Gd luck and keep us updated. :D

[aznson01]

these pics are of when i first set everything up...

[Pezzo]

a now i c the lights lol. put them a lot closer, close as possible i forget how far they are supposed to be away sorry.

they heat producing lamps?

looks gd! altho i was told (after i done it) that dull side out is the best way to put ur foil but meh

[aznson01]

pics #1 dro seed, my friend bought some dro from his dealer and found a seed in it, he put it in the medicine bottle with water about 1/3 of the way up and had the cap on and the seed in it for about a month, nothing happened and i told them to put a moist paper towel in there and 2 days later it starts germinating, hr brought the seed over to my place and i let it germinate a little longer and planted it

#2 dro sprout, i planted the dro seed at about midnight and this is what showed up today after it being in the soil under the light all night

#3 dro sprout, this was like 6 hours later, it stood stright up thought that was kinda peculiar

#4 mids sprout

#5 6" pots planted, the one on the left is the mids and the right is the dro


heat producing lamps... umm i dunno, they get hot... lol sorry...

[BONG0]

Allrite, First thing that needs to change is the Nutrients that you are using. Mirical grow is an inferior product to use when growing cannabis.

Thoes lamps you got produce more heat than anything. You should switch to a Metal Halide or Florecents high in the Blue spectrum of light. "Cool White" Tubes are acceptable. You wont get very much yeald using thoes lights to flower "bud" your plants. You need to get a High Pressure Sodium Lamp of at the very least 250 watts to have an acceptable havest in return for the time and money spent on the plant. I would suggest an economy priced 400 watt HPS, i can point you in the rite direction for that particular sale.


You said you have 1 Dro plant? you reffering to "Hydroponicly grown" marijuana? If so, wear is your Hydro System? i see 2 soil pots , i think you might be mistaken about the plant. If it is not constanlty grown in a hydroponic system from seed to harvest its not Hydro.

You also need to construct a light proof room to bud your plants in with the HPS.

[aznson01]

pics
#1 germinating set up, those are all mids seeds (my friend got an hp of some pretty damn good mids) so yeah thats where these seeds are coming from

#2 close up, 4 of them have sprouts coming out somewhat

#3 i keep moist paper towels on top and bottom of the seeds

#4 supplies under bathroom counter for easy access lol

#5 closet at night, i keep the other side open for moderate ventilation, we'll see how things go and depending on that we'll c if i get fans or not

well since u said so, i plan on moving the lights down tonight or whenever i get around to it

as you can prob tell i like taking pictures there will be plenty more and i will prob update this daily

im going out of town for thanksgiving so this will be sitting by itself from wed to sunday, i cant wait to see what kinda of progress i get on sunday

[BONG0]

Thoes nutes are awful crap to use, and thoes aren Dro by any stretch of the word, Hydro Marijuana is a term that reffers to the way it was grown, not what strain it is, unless it is a high grade Crype seed of any strain than its not going to be any diffrent than the Organic(soil) marijuana.

[BONG0]

well since u said so, i plan on moving the lights down tonight or whenever i get around to it

This isent a good attitude, one of thoes "whenever i get around to it" can lead to a destroyed crop, thay need to be checked on daily at the very least.

Just a heads up on potential problems most beginners encounter. :thumbsup:

[Pezzo]

u are takin in the info were givin u rite, i c no feedback lol. u got more seeds thats gd... what u doin bout ur plants when u leave them fora few days, its ok when their bigger but they just germinated. Actualy 4 days isnt too bad they can survive that pretty easily but listen to what Bongo says definatly, even tho im usin MG lol

[Bodom Children Of]

do some more reading before you go out and buy stuff.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm

[aznson01]

Miracle grow isnt the best to use but ppl have done well wiv it.

hope this helps m8. Gd luck and keep us updated. :D
i'll prob change the soil then soon, you think the scotts potting soil that i have is ok? (its in one of the pictures i have posted)



they heat producing lamps?

looks gd! altho i was told (after i done it) that dull side out is the best way to put ur foil but meh
like i said i dunno about if they are heat producing, they were blue when i bought em and when i turn em off if that helps
im thinkin about replacing the foil with mylar


Allrite, First thing that needs to change is the Nutrients that you are using. Mirical grow is an inferior product to use when growing cannabis.

You said you have 1 Dro plant? you reffering to "Hydroponicly grown" marijuana? If so, wear is your Hydro System? i see 2 soil pots , i think you might be mistaken about the plant. If it is not constanlty grown in a hydroponic system from seed to harvest its not Hydro.

You also need to construct a light proof room to bud your plants in with the HPS.

do u think the scotts soil in the picture way above is ok to use?
the lights i plan on changing to either the spiral flourescent and then hps for budding would that be ok? or just get hps right off the bat?

no light gets into this room at all being that i am only home to check up on the plants or to grab somehting real quick, so that shouldnt be a problem


Thoes nutes are awful crap to use, and thoes aren Dro by any stretch of the word, Hydro Marijuana is a term that reffers to the way it was grown, not what strain it is, unless it is a high grade Crype seed of any strain than its not going to be any diffrent than the Organic(soil) marijuana.

what kinda nutriets should i get then? i heard 10-15-10 was good but guess not lol what do u suggest?
i didnt know about the dro thing, i guess if i woulda thought about it i coulda figured it out, but none the less its 30/60 bud

by whenever i get around to it, im sorry i guess that was misleading, i meant id do it today just im not sure when, i'll post pics when i do


u are takin in the info were givin u rite, i c no feedback lol. u got more seeds thats gd... what u doin bout ur plants when u leave them fora few days, its ok when their bigger but they just germinated. Actualy 4 days isnt too bad they can survive that pretty easily but listen to what Bongo says definatly, even tho im usin MG lol

im taking all ur guys' advice, i figured if i watered them a fair amount but not too much before i left theyd be ok, both types of soil i have seem to stay damp for a while

Bodom Children Of-thanks im going through the site now....


everyone else.. comments?

[BONG0]

30/60 ? 30% of what? 60% of what? indica/sativa? wich is wich?

[Pezzo]

Yay feedback, was that big post to take the piss? lol jokin. neva herd of that soil but from the looks of it its ok and their growin ok so...
i forget bout nutrients but theirs a few fourms bout it, i stated one so u can check my threads and u mite find it, ill post it ina bit maby. U must have a lot of money to play wiv to buy all ur shit then change it! again gd luk

[BONG0]

Thats my problem, i need more cash, all i need is my HPS im wateing to get, if i could just get that and bud thies girls id have some of the other green to line my pockets with :pimp:

[Pezzo]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=90220
thats it (nutes thread)

[aznson01]

30/60 ? 30% of what? 60% of what? indica/sativa? wich is wich?

im in the states and i dont no about everywhere but in fl we kinda go more by prices than names...
mids
25/40
25 for an eighth and 40 for a quarter
and then there better weed most poeple here just call it dro

so we have mids and dro
and dro goes for usually either 25/50 or 30/60 which would be 25/30 for a half eighth and 50/60 for an eighth

does that make any sense?



Yay feedback, was that big post to take the piss? lol jokin. neva herd of that soil but from the looks of it its ok and their growin ok so...
i forget bout nutrients but theirs a few fourms bout it, i stated one so u can check my threads and u mite find it, ill post it ina bit maby. U must have a lot of money to play wiv to buy all ur shit then change it! again gd luk

i'll do some more research about nutrients thanks guys

more more more feedback please

[aznson01]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=90220
thats it (nutes thread)

well thank you very much

[BONG0]

aznson1 Are you from Jacksonville Florida?

[Pezzo]

aznson01 ur kl man n im off bed cya guys let me no if i go offline coz i sont sign out n i was just wonderin whether i am always logged in or what thx (look at the dot nxt to my name, tell me if its green or purple cheers) :thumbsup:

[aznson01]

aznson1 Are you from Jacksonville Florida?

no, kinda close tho....

pezzo-the dot is green right now

[BONG0]

oh yea? same here, u from Orlando?

[aznson01]

oh yea? same here, u from Orlando?

lol nope, u got yahoo messanger?

[aznson01]

so anyone else got any advice?

[BONG0]

i do, i need to make a name for it, what is yours?

[aznson01]

i fixed the issue of the lights being too far away, well maybe, i'll post some pics after i finish eating my popeyes hahahaha

[aznson01]

what are cfl's? circular florescent lights?

what is "lst-ing"????

what is the purpose of tying down a plant?

i know none of this is truely crucial to know yet but it cant hurt to know

[CaliJay]

AZN...Did you switch to mylar yet? There is quite a bit of difference between mylar and foil's reflecting properties. I can't recall foil but I know mylar is 95%-97%. I am currently letting my 400 watt MH sit dormant because I am using the same light clamps as you have. I am using cfls for my mother plants to keep growing clones with. CFLs (compact flourescent lights) can be purchased an any discount store for a dollar each. Look for the actual watts(in small print) not the wattage that the bulb replaces. Idealy you want 50 watts per square foot. Length x Width of the floor in your grow space. 2 x 2 is 4 sqft and would require 200 watts. Remember when you switch to 12 hours of darkness you will need to have that closet door sealed to prevent light from the room penetrating in. Black plastic will work. Any leaks and your entire grow process will be fucked.
You have more help on this thread than I have seen in a while. You must have really good energy.
Remember to thank everybody and keep people informed on your progress to keep the help flowing in your direction.

Peace and Love bro -Jay

[BONG0]

Low - stress training ( LST) is used when height must be kept at a minimum. The marijuana plant is trained to lie over on its side at an early age, with each successive stem trained in the same fashion. This method produces a low-lying, luxurious plant, with increased bud production due to the light reaching into the sides of the plant as well as the top. :thumbsup:

There are some more methods you might find useful:

The sea of green ( SOG) method is used for rapid flowering when lack of height and wattage are a major concern for the grower. Marijuana clones are planted closely together, vegetating time is short, and the plants are pushed into flowering and bud production while they are relatively small. This is an effective method of growing, and when the lighting is adequate the yields are generally good.

The screen of green ( SCROG) method is also used when height and wattage are a consideration. A screen, usually of netting, screenwire or chickenwire, is attached at a desired height above the plants. This allows the growing marijuana plants to begin to grow horizontally after reaching the height limit, thus keeping the canopy, or height, at an even level, which allows consistent light penetration into the growing plants. Many growers have a consistent high yield using this method.

Supercropping is an easy growth - training method for marijuana growers. This is simply cutting off the top of the main stem several times during its vegetative growth, leaving approximately 10% of the stem intact each time. This method induces the plant to generate the growth of additional side shoots, which in turn increases the overall bud production. This is a favorite method of many growers, due to the almost - guaranteed increased yields.

Whether you grow your marijuana plants strictly by nature`s way, or must use some method of plant - training, marijuana growing may be a successful venture with a consistent pleasing yield. Some growers use these methods out of necessity, while others choose to experiment with their grow out of sheer curiosity.

Time and trial is your most effective research. After trying several different types of grows, you will find the one that works best for you.

:pimp:

[aznson01]

ok well thank you very much, where can i get mylar? can i get that at home depot and what not? i plan on getting some other type of lights theses are just here to do the job for now, idealy id like to get an hps but we'll c, my friend had a 400 watt hps and he said that it was too hot for his plants and killed them all so hes waiting till he moves to try again (he'll have a bigger growing area in his enw house) i plan on planting a couple more seeds before the night is over, should i invest in more lights? should i get cfl's? or what kind should i get? if i do get cfl's what kind should i get? warm, soft, cool white or daylight?

yes thank you very much everyone for ur input, im just trying to get the maximum amount of information i can so that my first grow is perfect and these seeds dont go to waste

pics
#1 new setup, put my keg trashcan underneath the cardboard covered in foil

#2 another pic with the lights

#3 (2) 150 watt plant lights

#4 mids

#5 "better bud"??? its whatever is better than mids, my friends and i always called it dro btu iwas corrected earlier, so i guess im just gonna call it 30/60 bud for now on (sorrry the pic is blurry)

what kinda nutes should i use? and how often and how much?

thanks everyone for feedback

wow bongo - thank you very much that helped me so much in learning different ways to grow, i htink im going to go with lst-ing my plant(s) being that i cant screen them, sea-ing them seems like its too much trouble and theres a lot of potential problems i could run into if i dont do it right, and same with supercropping, if this grow goes well though i will deffinitley try those, so for lst-ing do i just tie it down?

[BONG0]

Take the top of the plant and tie it over at about the 6th node, make a hole at the edge of the pot to string it threw or tape it to the side of the pot.

No, you cant get mylar at home depo as far as i amaware.

try to find plant supply shops in the yellow pages.

[aznson01]

Take the top of the plant and tie it over at about the 6th node, make a hole at the edge of the pot to string it threw or tape it to the side of the pot.

No, you cant get mylar at home depo as far as i amaware.

try to find plant supply shops in the yellow pages.

whats a node? lol they will sell mylar at plant supply shops?

also how long till i see leaves? like pot leaves? lol

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, aznson01! Welcome to the Wubbulous World of Indoor Growing!

Looks like you are getting some good info from the crew. BONG0's been a good cut & paster when it comes to disseminating the good info since he's been here so take his advice. Calijay and Pezzo and the rest are giving some good advice too. :thumbsup:

I'd go with the LSTing if I were you, but I don't tend to like the "tying over the top" method, personally. I think it makes plants look kind of ugly (no offense to anyone who uses it). Some people are excellent at it, but most aren't. I suggest topping the plant after about 5 nodes and then LSTing all the side-shoots. Take a look at my thread to see what I'm talking about. :greenthumb: It's in my sig. JOURNAL OF A MADMAN.

Mylar or flat white paint for the win! FOIL...? Booooo. :)

Anyway, glad you are doing some research. You can become a quasi-expert in no time if you apply yourself. There is A LOT of info out there if you look. Just make sure you double check your sources and don't always go with the first thing you read/hear, cuz many times it is way off.

Good luck on your first grow. Keep us all posted and make sure you include pics. We love pics! I do, at least! LOL.

Be cool, Azn! Here....:joint2:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

[aznson01]

haha i was actually going through ur thread earlier, yes everyone has been a lot of help

again what are nodes

where can i get mylar?

[CaliJay]

Another thing AZN... When you want more info on something someone tells you just do a search on it. The search button is in the toolbar at the top of the page. Just be careful and don't get caught up and forget to sleep :stoned:
You can get a product at home depot that is 97% reflectiv and works well. It is an insulating bubble type sheet. You will find it in the insulation section if they have it at your HD. It looks like those little packing bubbles you can pop but is silver and rolled up. Alternatively if it suits you purpose as it does mine you can get 3/4 inch thick insulation that is for reflecting sunlight. It is a 4' x 8' sheet of foam that has 97% reflective material bonded to both sides. Either way you go it will be using whatever light you provide to it's fullest.

CFLs... These would be the best bet for anyone with heat issues or budget concerns. It is pretty easy to get 23 watt(100 watt replacement) bulbs in cool white(veg) or warm white(flower) They have them at HD you would really need quite a few of them though. Another alternative that is more pricey is the envirolight 200 watt. You could use 2 of these. They would produce less heat than 400 watt HPS but need to be kept closer to your plants and require more maintainence to keep the plants from groing into them and burning. If you decide to do the HPS thing research cool tubes. This will help dramatically with the heat issues. Some growers use T-5 lights. T5s are flouros and I have read that some growers swear by them but again any flouro needs to be quite close to the plant to be 100% effective.

Tell us how you are going to deal with heat and how long you plan to veg your girls before switching into flowering mode????

-Jay

[aznson01]

the info thing, lol this is true... i guess im just too damn lazy haha but i will for now on instead of posting on my own lol

i'll prob go to home depot tomorrow or when i come back up here for school since im going home for thanksgiving, i'll prob get some cfl's, ive looked at them a ocuple times and they are deffinitley really cheap which is a plus, what kind of lights would give me most yield do u think, i know its hard to tell since i dont no what strains i have and since there are a lot of other factors but do u have a guess at which light would be best?

for heat, i plan on just getting the right lights and hopefully not being too hot i guess lol

and im going to let them veg till i have no idea when, i'll prob just keep taking pics and updating often and asking for poeples advice and eyeball it...

[CaliJay]

Questions are no problem. We all been there. If you want to dig a bit deeper though that is when I go searching..Peace

[CaliJay]

I went over time on my edit so here goes....

Cool White is best for vegging because it will cause the plant to grow more dense foliage which is good for indoor because space is always an issue. Warm light mimics the late summer/early fall light spectrum and is best for Flowering. I personally believe that a combination of warm 70% and cool 30% is best during flower but the thing to remember is that you need the red spectrum (warm) during flowering. The CFLs don't penetrate like HID(high intensity discharge) lights do so LSTing is a must.

Questions are no problem. We all been there. If you want to dig a bit deeper on a key word or topic though that is when I go searching..Peace

Keep pics coming and you will have your canna cousins helping you out..


-Jay

[aznson01]

I went over time on my edit so here goes....

Cool White is best for vegging because it will cause the plant to grow more dense foliage which is good for indoor because space is always an issue. Warm light mimics the late summer/early fall light spectrum and is best for Flowering. I personally believe that a combination of warm 70% and cool 30% is best during flower but the thing to remember is that you need the red spectrum (warm) during flowering. The CFLs don't penetrate like HID(high intensity discharge) lights do so LSTing is a must.

Questions are no problem. We all been there. If you want to dig a bit deeper on a key word or topic though that is when I go searching..Peace

Keep pics coming and you will have your canna cousins helping you out..


-Jay

thanks for the help on lights,

i was gonna say i have no pictures of anything to post but i have like 4 or 5 germinated seeds so im going to post pictures of me while i plant them right now

now question:
will i eventually need bigger pots for these plants? right now i have them in 6" pots

[aznson01]

yo d

[aznson01]

just planted and watered 2 more germinated mids seeds

6" inch pots
scotts potting soil

[aznson01]

what are nodes and trichomes?

[aznson01]

got bored and wanted to figure out a way to get lights closer....


pics
#1 my new lighting "arrangement" haha ghetto rigged i know, but its studry and its doing the job

#2 30/60 sprout, its now like an inch and 1/2 tall

[Pezzo]

wow is this the most popular thread around or what, i went away came back and just spent half an hour readin 3/4 of the posts! i cba to read the rest so i scanned most of them sorry guys.
c no ones answered ur q bout nodes - nodes are the umm i forgot the word, the place where a leaf grows, i would upload pics but i cant... if you look at a plant and follow the main stem up untill the first branch comes off that bit is called a node (where it joins or forms). Trichomes are the crystals on the bud.

Feel free to correct or expand on anythin i say ppl

[BONG0]

Below i have 2 diagrams that show you exactly what the node is and wht and were to find trichomes.

[Pezzo]

thats what i ment lol

[aznson01]

yo im back home now but before i left i put 2 more mids seeds in pots that had been germinating, so hopefully by the time i get back (on sunday) they will all be growing/at least sprouted.... i watered them generously before i left as that i'll be gone for a while

[CaliJay]

Happy turkey day weekend and be sure to get cfls 3 or so inches away from your plants once they have established some roots.

-Jay

[aznson01]

hey thanks for the info, what kind of cfl's do u reccomend and how many? do you think those aluminum housing things will work good for the cfls? (the domes i have my lights in now?) how can i figure out the roots are good and solid?

[lowryderulez]

Nice setup, i'm using miracle grow,, its the only thing i can get my hands on. This thread is quickly becoming very educational lol, i reckon by the time you harvest you''l be a pro ;) goodluck!

piece

[Splifted]

hey thanks for the info, what kind of cfl's do u reccomend and how many? do you think those aluminum housing things will work good for the cfls? (the domes i have my lights in now?) how can i figure out the roots are good and solid?

You can find mylar at wal-mart. Just go to the camping section, look for those emergency blankets that look like shiny foil. Only $1.98. Works like a charm.

Get the 42 watt 2700 lumen cfls. For vegging, you want the cool white ones (6700K) and for flowering you want the warm white ones (3700K). But thats just ideally, honestly, it doesn't matter. I vegged some badass plants under warm whites, both work.
http://www.1000bulbs.com/products.php?cat=42-Watt-Compact-Fluorescents
You see the "kelvin temperature" they refer to? A higher number = more blue-ish white looking light, a lower number = more reddish white looking.


Yes, the "domes" you have your lights in work great for CFLs, although I found out that I got better light distribution without the dome part on. You can also pick up some chains or rope to hang the lights from, the clamp just clips right on to the chain. I took the reflectors off and hung a lot of them close together, so each light wasn't just focused on one plant. It wastes a little light, but you get better light coverage overall.


How many plants are you planning on vegging? You want at least 1 42 watt bulb per plant, preferably more. Remember, more light = more growth.

If you wanna see some pictures of what LST'ing does to plants, look at how many tops mine have from tying them over. I can count 44 one one of them :)
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=90199

New pics are on page 2 :rasta:


Also, i use that Scotts Seed Starting mix for starting seeds too, then transplant to Fox Farms Ocean Forest (best soil ever made for pot) and use the fox farms fertilizer system. You should be able to find that at your local hydroponics shop. In my case, there isn't a local one, but its worth the drive.

[Splifted]

As far as the roots, you won't be able to tell til you transplant. But one good indication of big healthy roots is a big healthy plant. Pot size also helps determine plant size. And always remember ONLY ONE PLANT PER POT. All sharing pots does is increase your chance of having a problem, and makes plants fight for nutrients/space.

[ridethefire]

Your lights still look a little far... Have you tried 2 hangers?

[aznson01]

wow i completely FUCKED my plants

i was back home (im at school where im growing) for thanksgiving, i was gome from mid day wed till now (6:44pm sunday) i came home not able to wait to see the progress of my plants well yeah, one of 4 sprouted and the 2 that had already sprouted died, im home now so i'll be able to see if i can revitalize them or fix them or w/e but im thinkin fat chance, my friend just got a fat sack of some nice bud with a bunch of seeds so i plan on planting those if theres dont turn out as planned

here are pics
#1 this one was the mids that sprouted and died

#2 this one was the mids that sprouted and died

#3 this one grew and died when i was gone

#4 grew like 2 more inches and died (dro plant)

#5 my set up

i plan on going to get cfls tonight or tomorrow

what should i do, new plants, or try to revive these

[BONG0]

my friend just got a fat sack of some nice bud with a bunch of seeds so i plan on planting those if theres dont turn out as planned

LOL dosent sound too good from all the seeds.

Yea u gotta water them regularly, they are like a baby u dont feed her, she dies of starvation. one way 1 remedy this is to build a Deep Water Culture Hydro system, u never have to worry about regular feeding, its allways in water

[aznson01]

sorry here are the pics for above

[aznson01]

LOL dosent sound too good from all the seeds.

Yea u gotta water them regularly, they are like a baby u dont feed her, she dies of starvation. one way 1 remedy this is to build a Deep Water Culture Hydro system, u never have to worry about regular feeding, its allways in water

it was nice because it was like some middle breed between mids and dro, it was wierd, there were like no seeds for mids, but for dro it would be considered a lot u no what im sayin? the bud is awesome

i dont feel like a water culture.... too much work expensive

[Bodom Children Of]

sorry here are the pics for above

lmao, did that one stretch sooooo much that it couldn't support itself and fell over?:stoned:

[aznson01]

lmao, did that one stretch sooooo much that it couldn't support itself and fell over?:stoned:

im not really sure the 30/60 plant is standing up straight again, im going to water it again before i go to bed soon and then i'll call it a night and water when i wake up in the morning, i'll prob take pics then too...

[lovetogrow]

dude, you need to stop what your doing. take a step back and study alot more. You are never going to get anything out of that setup.

[aznson01]

dude, you need to stop what your doing. take a step back and study alot more. You are never going to get anything out of that setup.

i did do a lot of research all over various websites and forums and i talked to poeple who grow, they told me this would get the job done, what have i not done? i posted this thread for peoples help, gimme some input if u know so much

[aznson01]

You can find mylar at wal-mart. Just go to the camping section, look for those emergency blankets that look like shiny foil. Only $1.98. Works like a charm.

i plan on getting the mylar today


Also, i use that Scotts Seed Starting mix for starting seeds too, then transplant to Fox Farms Ocean Forest (best soil ever made for pot) and use the fox farms fertilizer system. You should be able to find that at your local hydroponics shop. In my case, there isn't a local one, but its worth the drive.

sounds good i'll look into that, i have the scotts u use so i'll continue to use that too thanks for ur help

im also planning to get anywhere from 6-10 cfl's

im going to prob germinate some more seeds and plant those in place of the mids plants tonight too

[aznson01]

well i removed all my mids plants so that i only had the one dro plant, i revived it and it was standing up straight again so i moved the lights together and closer like everyone said and i went to work out, came back, and it was fucking deader than anything so fuck these plants, im starting over from scratch, ima do it right, mylar, fans, bigger pots, new seeds, new soil, and a fuckin hps light

how many watts should i get in the same amount of room i used before?

[Pezzo]

i wouldnt use a hps for veg if thats what ur planning, mh are better as they have the rite spectrum, took me months to get around the light problem, i thought i new it then somethin else would come thru.. im not listenin to what anyone says bout lites now as i got mine and dont wanna go thru it again lol.

how big was ur grow room? i forgot soz. I went tru lites wiv someone told the all about how many lumens per sq ft and all bout lumens from the sun ill try n find it...

[Pezzo]

id love to put my pics on here but unfortunatly i cant dno y...
wanna c my plants and have a gd chat add me on msn [email protected]. light: omg this was a nightmare 4 me! Spent like £400 in the end! just on lights. so this is what i got out of me research..

It is recomended 2000 - 5000 lumens per sq ft i have a 10000 lm envirolight wiv daylight spectrum, covers 2sq' so thats 5000lm/sq' (keep in mind the sun produces 10000lm/sq' oviously wiv a daylight spectrum. Thats y things grow well in summer outside)

Also remember that you cant give your plant too much light only too little. what you using for flowering?

The way to tell if the dont get enough light is if they grow tall 'strecthing for the light'.
as for watering theres a thread round here but dont ask me as i overwaterd it.
mine grew bout 2mm of leaf per day bit like urs, looked exactly like it. after the first couple of weeks its now growing several leafs per day! very fast

that was it

[aznson01]

im starting over, lots of pics, new thread will be under closet growing.....

[aznson01]

nvm im posting it in indoor grow i will get more attention and more of the help i might need

[Pezzo]

post the link here

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, aznson. I'm glad you decided to take it seriously this time around. :thumbsup: Do your research, and it will pay off, seriously.

Yea, bro, you can't really leave little sprouts like that for days unattended and expect them to live. But, meh...good you killed 'em now and had that experience instead of killing them after a month or 2 and having to start all over then.

Give your room a makeover. Mylar or matte white paint on the walls. Get some good lights (CFLs and/or HPS or T5 lights) Keep them as close as you can. Ventilation is champ...Then you will be on the right track.

Good luck. Looking forward to your new grow. :greenthumb:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

[aznson01]

Hey, aznson. I'm glad you decided to take it seriously this time around. :thumbsup: Do your research, and it will pay off, seriously.

Yea, bro, you can't really leave little sprouts like that for days unattended and expect them to live. But, meh...good you killed 'em now and had that experience instead of killing them after a month or 2 and having to start all over then.

Give your room a makeover. Mylar or matte white paint on the walls. Get some good lights (CFLs and/or HPS or T5 lights) Keep them as close as you can. Ventilation is champ...Then you will be on the right track.

Good luck. Looking forward to your new grow. :greenthumb:

:rastasmoke:

TGF

i'll post the link as soon as i post it, i already got mylar i just have to put it on the walls, and i got 4 42watt cfl's rated at 150 watts with like 1950 lumens each, 2 more of those lamp clamp things, my set up will be similar but much improved i cant wait till tonite, i got a bunch of seeds germinating as we speak

how does everyone do that? i put mine between paper wet paper towels for a couple days what r some other/better/faster ways?

o i cant wait haha i got a thermometer too and a time release watering thingy

FUCK ME i just noticed this, i already had one 42 watt bulb and it was rated at 2700 lumens, the ones i bought are the exact same thing (42 watts but puts out like 150 watts) but the lumens are different the one i bought earlier puts out 2700 lumens and the 3 i just got only put out 1950 lumens, is this a problem for like 4 plants? i'll have 600 watts total, is that enough? am i going to need to switch cfl's to some other tyhpe of light? ive heard of grows with cfl's for veg and flower, i hope i'll be able to, if i need to buy mroe i will

[Pezzo]

1 cfl per plant is gd, if you have daylight spectrum (lots of blue and red spec) that will alow u to veg and flower under one lite, wish i could build a proper grow room, start ova, get lots of cfls, get 1000 watt hps, get mylar all over, proper heatin and water, correct watering technics... Man all my research and i still didnt do it rite!

[lovetogrow]

first, im also gald your starting over. ill try to watch your next better and help anyway i can. here some pointers to start you off. if you got to go soil and cheap on soil then go with Sta-Green flower planting mix from lowes no nutes. its a 1 cu. ft bag and mix it with a 8 qt. bag of Schultz perlite. i like to put a layer of rocks in the bottom of my pots when using soil. i have found plants love this mix. with this mix and anyway i go i go with Pure blend pro grow and bloom, karma, and super thive. go Mh and hps or if only one then hps. if not in budget then cfls, (lots of them) cool and soft. mylar or black/white poly if not flat white paint.

[lovetogrow]

perlite and super thive from walmart. if your getting hps then try to wait to start then. i would do hps for both veg/flower before cfls for veg and hps for flower, but cfls for first week. with hps you will need to think about venting the grow room. "heat" i did the same light thing your doing in the begining. got to walmart in the lights there is a that light fixture that replaces the fixture on bottom of your ceilingfans that holds 4 light bulbs in the same amount of space that yours do. two of those would be 8 cfls in the same space you have two. but this will that some basic wiring on your part. just get exten. cord and elc. tape. and mount on piece of wood and hang works great for cfls. ill try to find some of my old pics.

[aznson01]

first, im also gald your starting over. ill try to watch your next better and help anyway i can. here some pointers to start you off. if you got to go soil and cheap on soil then go with Sta-Green flower planting mix from lowes no nutes. its a 1 cu. ft bag and mix it with a 8 qt. bag of Schultz perlite. i like to put a layer of rocks in the bottom of my pots when using soil. i have found plants love this mix. with this mix and anyway i go i go with Pure blend pro grow and bloom, karma, and super thive. go Mh and hps or if only one then hps. if not in budget then cfls, (lots of them) cool and soft. mylar or black/white poly if not flat white paint.

sta green, i'll pick some up today...i have scotts perlite, i'll get some rocks, any kind in particular, whats "pure blend pro grow and bloom" "karma" and "super thrive" im doing the 42 watt cfl's i plan on getting more i have 3 right now, i already put mylar all over the walls

[aznson01]

perlite and super thive from walmart. if your getting hps then try to wait to start then. i would do hps for both veg/flower before cfls for veg and hps for flower, but cfls for first week. with hps you will need to think about venting the grow room. "heat" i did the same light thing your doing in the begining. got to walmart in the lights there is a that light fixture that replaces the fixture on bottom of your ceilingfans that holds 4 light bulbs in the same amount of space that yours do. two of those would be 8 cfls in the same space you have two. but this will that some basic wiring on your part. just get exten. cord and elc. tape. and mount on piece of wood and hang works great for cfls. ill try to find some of my old pics.

ok well now i know where i can get super thrive from lol ummmmmm i was thinking about that 4 light fixture, all i would need is a small extension cord, electric tape, and the 4 piece fan light piece thingy? do u have ne pics?

[aznson01]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=1119403#post1119403

new thread grow 2 lots of picssssssss

[Arklenao2]

oh man i laughed my ass off at that plant that was laying in the dirt with a 4 inch stem