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damightyquinn
11-20-2006, 04:37 AM
Yes, i'm one of em'. And my mother has blackmailed me into being one. I don't even believe in religion, but she drags me to 3 meetings every week. For as long as I can remember. I want so much some night to wait until she says "quinn, time to get ready for the meeting"; walk over to her with a lit blunt in my hand; and say "sorry mother, I have other plans." But if I even think about telling her I don't believe in this bullshit, she'll practically slam the bullshit on me even harder. She will bring me to meetings all the time, cram bible verses into my head, and have me talk to the "brothers" at the hall and try to "set me straight", when they're the ones who need to be set straight. Not to mention take me in service, bringing the total witness gatherings to a whopping 4 EVERY WEEK. Goddamn I wish this bullshit could be over and my mom could get some sense knocked into her tiny little head.

Samwhore
11-20-2006, 04:39 AM
my best friend is a "forced" witness too, but ive noticed, when you are forced into religion, chances are you dont like it, its not just jehovahs

Samwhore
11-20-2006, 04:39 AM
i know what you means about those meetings, the take so much time out of your day

TallulahGreen
11-20-2006, 04:55 AM
Yes, i'm one of em'. And my mother has blackmailed me into being one. I don't even believe in religion, but she drags me to 3 meetings every week. For as long as I can remember. I want so much some night to wait until she says "quinn, time to get ready for the meeting"; walk over to her with a lit blunt in my hand; and say "sorry mother, I have other plans." But if I even think about telling her I don't believe in this bullshit, she'll practically slam the bullshit on me even harder. She will bring me to meetings all the time, cram bible verses into my head, and have me talk to the "brothers" at the hall and try to "set me straight", when they're the ones who need to be set straight. Not to mention take me in service, bringing the total witness gatherings to a whopping 4 EVERY WEEK. Goddamn I wish this bullshit could be over and my mom could get some sense knocked into her tiny little head.

Wow, I am really sorry. I feel for you. I was fortunate enough to have a mother who encouraged me to make my own decisions and do what I want. She never forced anything on me, then again shes really not a religious person herself. In fact no one in my family really is. I feel for you, really. At least you have sense enough though to not enjoy it. Sorry that was fucked up, no disrespect to jehovahs witness' or anything...oh shit...too late.

I'm goin' to hell.
I bet Heaven has all the good drugs.

Samwhore
11-20-2006, 04:58 AM
Wow, I am really sorry. I feel for you. I was fortunate enough to have a mother who encouraged me to make my own decisions and do what I want. She never forced anything on me, then again shes really not a religious person herself. In fact no one in my family really is. I feel for you, really. At least you have sense enough though to not enjoy it. Sorry that was fucked up, no disrespect to jehovahs witness' or anything...oh shit...too late.

I'm goin' to hell.
I bet Heaven has all the good drugs.

thats great for you, my mom says im going to hell because im atheist

BobBong
11-20-2006, 05:02 AM
High Damighty....

Well my friend you're on your way to the first steps of freedom. Deciding what you want.

Now comes the hard part. Following through with your decision.
I can tell you that I have.. well, been there. I was raised in the "truth" and it was all I knew for a good portion of my early years.

If there is one thing that they teach you.. it is to not live a double life.

And they're right. It eats you up inside to put on a "happy face" for the meetings and then be yourself when nobody you think will care is looking.

Don't do it.
Be honest with yourself first. Then be honest with everyone around you. If they don't accept it then you have to deal with that as well.

Never continue doing something simply because someone else wants you to. Even your parents.

If anything, simply be honest to yourself. '


Bob.

bobbydabud
11-20-2006, 05:07 AM
i have a friend thats one and i will have to pretend to be one just so his mom will let him come over to my house

Its so gay that she is thst strict

1337_toker
11-20-2006, 05:09 AM
Parents, or anyone shouldn't force their beliefs on another person. They are just that... beliefs, you can't force people into them no matter what you may think. Religion is a matter of opinion, it isn't something you should be born into which seems to be the way it is now.

If you really don't believe in what you're doing then just tell that to your mother. And whatever you do, don't say you think it's a waste of time. Explain why you don't want to go anymore, otherwise she may not respect your decision.

Lucifuge
11-20-2006, 06:48 AM
No matter what you try to tell her, she won't listen to you or respect any decision you make. They have to force religion onto children in order for their Church to flourish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE). Best advice I can give you is to stop going. Your mother can't force you unless you're a little kid. Good Luck.

BobBong
11-20-2006, 07:03 AM
No matter what you try to tell her, she won't listen to you or respect any decision you make. They have to force religion onto children in order for their Church to flourish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE). Best advice I can give you is to stop going. Your mother can't force you unless you're a little kid. Good Luck.

People choose what to believe, raising a child to believe the same things you do has been happening for thousands of years. If that someone is old enough to choose what to believe and not believe in than that someone should stick their guns and not try to get the best of both worlds.

You can please everyone some of the time.. and some of the people all the time.

TurnyBright
11-21-2006, 02:24 AM
My suggestion: Go to a senior administrator at the place where your mother forces you to worship . Try and be respectful of their beliefs, but make them understand that YOU DO NOT SHARE THEM, AND NOTHING ANYONE ELSE DOES CAN CHANGE THAT.

BobBong
11-21-2006, 02:40 PM
My suggestion: Go to a senior administrator at the place where your mother forces you to worship . Try and be respectful of their beliefs, but make them understand that YOU DO NOT SHARE THEM, AND NOTHING ANYONE ELSE DOES CAN CHANGE THAT.

Urrrr... I don't suggest that to be honest. Elder's will only play the "holier than thou" card and make one final attempt to "sway" his mind.

Just don't go to the kingdom hall. Be honest with yourself and your mother. She will accept you either way. If she doesn't, that is quite seriously, her problem.
:o

mrdevious
11-22-2006, 06:48 PM
Carl Marx, as we've all heard, once described religion as an opiate for the masses. Sometimes yes and sometimes no, and but sometimes it's more the sodium penthanol for the masses.

bavet
11-22-2006, 07:43 PM
I know people that were Jehovah's witness for many many years, about two years ago the woman finally snapped out of it and saw it for what it really is. They had a nasty break away from the cult. She has told me so much twisted stuff about them. She had to go to abuse councling after geting away from them. The come off all nice and kind but once they get ya in, they try to control everything in your life.

MastaChronic
11-23-2006, 07:19 AM
jehovas witnesses, i swear man i lovem
they knockin on my front door and im there
wait'n above 'em

violent j-still stabbin

Euphoric
12-01-2006, 11:33 PM
ONE TIME SOME JEHOVAHS WITNESSES KNOCKED ON MY DOOR IT WAS TWO CHICKS IN WHITE DRESSES. IM LIKE WTF. THEYRE LIKE HAVE U READ THE BIBLE. IM LIKE YS. I HAVE. THEN I GOT REALLY CLOSE TO HER AND WHISPERED "I WORSHIP SATAN!!!!!" THEN THEY LEFT good times. h yea and i was a jo ho for 10 years

Samwhore
12-02-2006, 04:18 AM
ONE TIME SOME JEHOVAHS WITNESSES KNOCKED ON MY DOOR IT WAS TWO CHICKS IN WHITE DRESSES. IM LIKE WTF. THEYRE LIKE HAVE U READ THE BIBLE. IM LIKE YS. I HAVE. THEN I GOT REALLY CLOSE TO HER AND WHISPERED "I WORSHIP SATAN!!!!!" THEN THEY LEFT good times. h yea and i was a jo ho for 10 years

lol ill have to say that next time

caitlin_autumncoat
12-02-2006, 04:37 AM
In a brief sentence can someone tell me what Jehovah's witnesses are/is?

Euphoric
12-02-2006, 04:56 AM
In a brief sentence can someone tell me what Jehovah's witnesses are/is?

A religious movement which has existed from the time Abel "offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous." Abel was the first witness and others include Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jeremiah, John the Baptist and Jesus. Outsiders say the movement was founded by pastor Charles Taze Russell of Pittsburg, USA in 1881 as the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. ...more (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:JEHOVAH%27S+WITNESS&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)

ju99al0b0mb3r
12-02-2006, 06:04 AM
Yes, i'm one of em'. And my mother has blackmailed me into being one. I don't even believe in religion, but she drags me to 3 meetings every week. For as long as I can remember. I want so much some night to wait until she says "quinn, time to get ready for the meeting"; walk over to her with a lit blunt in my hand; and say "sorry mother, I have other plans." But if I even think about telling her I don't believe in this bullshit, she'll practically slam the bullshit on me even harder. She will bring me to meetings all the time, cram bible verses into my head, and have me talk to the "brothers" at the hall and try to "set me straight", when they're the ones who need to be set straight. Not to mention take me in service, bringing the total witness gatherings to a whopping 4 EVERY WEEK. Goddamn I wish this bullshit could be over and my mom could get some sense knocked into her tiny little head.

dudeeee that sucks

but dont knock on my door man thats just annyoing

JOINTMASTER5
04-15-2007, 05:38 AM
i know a few kids that tried to stick up this man, he didnt giv eup his wallet, theys hot him in the stomach twice, he took the gun from one of their hands, and shot himself in the chest 5 more times, gave it back to them, and walked away.........

xcrispi
04-15-2007, 01:55 PM
I had a g/f in h/s that was a witness .
Anyone on here able to tell me why she wasn't allowed to accept birthday gifts and stuff due to this religous belief ?
Crispi :jointsmile:

BobBong
04-15-2007, 02:10 PM
I had a g/f in h/s that was a witness .
Anyone on here able to tell me why she wasn't allowed to accept birthday gifts and stuff due to this religous belief ?
Crispi :jointsmile:

Witnesses only celebrate the sacrifice of "Jesus" (Passover) and Wedding Anniversaries. Anything else would be classed as "worldly".

.... Your guess is as good as mine.

Bob.

Gatekeeper777
04-15-2007, 02:10 PM
I am letting my kid choose his eternal destiny(if you will).
he chooses church, and i am kool with that, I know he goes and believes because he wants to NOT because i shoved that crap down his throat.

BobBong
04-15-2007, 02:13 PM
I am letting my kid choose his eternal destiny(if you will).
he chooses church, and i am kool with that, I know he goes and believes because he wants to NOT because i shoved that crap down his throat.

As any respecting parent should... Religion however, does not always respect you.

JOINTMASTER5
04-15-2007, 02:14 PM
nice pic bob bong, lmao

PureEvil760
04-15-2007, 02:47 PM
jehovahs should be slapped..thats it, just 1 slap across the face will do.

Gatekeeper777
04-15-2007, 05:22 PM
since i love a steak rare or medium rare i am glad i am a heathen.

jdmarcus59
04-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Yes, i'm one of em'. And my mother has blackmailed me into being one. I don't even believe in religion, but she drags me to 3 meetings every week. For as long as I can remember. I want so much some night to wait until she says "quinn, time to get ready for the meeting"; walk over to her with a lit blunt in my hand; and say "sorry mother, I have other plans." But if I even think about telling her I don't believe in this bullshit, she'll practically slam the bullshit on me even harder. She will bring me to meetings all the time, cram bible verses into my head, and have me talk to the "brothers" at the hall and try to "set me straight", when they're the ones who need to be set straight. Not to mention take me in service, bringing the total witness gatherings to a whopping 4 EVERY WEEK. Goddamn I wish this bullshit could be over and my mom could get some sense knocked into her tiny little head.sorry bro, but jw are a cult, your
mom is beliving in LIE, i DONT MEAN TO PUT DOWN YOUR MOM, Iam sure
she loves you very much, but dont feel bad about not going [love in truth]

jdmarcus59
04-15-2007, 08:22 PM
sorry bro jw are a cult, dont feel bad about not going..

Gatekeeper777
04-16-2007, 12:02 AM
sorry bro jw are a cult, dont feel bad about not going..

whats the definition of a cult?

any religion can say another is occultic.
If there was a god there would be ONE religion, not 50 with 100 sub-denominations.
one god one planet one religion.
John Lennon said it best with one word.....IMAGINE!:D :stoned:

JunkYard
04-16-2007, 01:44 PM
whats the definition of a cult?

any religion can say another is occultic.
If there was a god there would be ONE religion, not 50 with 100 sub-denominations.
one god one planet one religion.
John Lennon said it best with one word.....IMAGINE!:D :stoned:

Ther'e a difference between occult and cult bro. I've dabbled in the occult for years, but have never belonged to a "cult". John lennon was da man, tho. :thumbsup:


Junk~

jdmarcus59
04-16-2007, 06:01 PM
you cant say your a christian if you dont belive in christian doctron
jw have changed certan words in the new testment to fit what they
want to belive, you cant do that, what is writen is writen. go to bible
book store and read it for your self....there is only love in truth

jdmarcus59
04-16-2007, 06:02 PM
do not fear what is true, for it will set you free.

jdmarcus59
04-16-2007, 10:44 PM
whats the definition of a cult?

any religion can say another is occultic.
If there was a god there would be ONE religion, not 50 with 100 sub-denominations.
one god one planet one religion.
John Lennon said it best with one word.....IMAGINE!:D :stoned:

where is John Lennon?

Gatekeeper777
04-16-2007, 11:17 PM
he wa smurdered by a crazed fan. he prolly belonged to a cult, as Lennon was a cult phenominan.

jdmarcus59
04-16-2007, 11:59 PM
I know John Lennon is not with us, but where is he? eternal soul...

Gatekeeper777
04-17-2007, 12:02 AM
Y its in strawberry fields forever!

JunkYard
04-17-2007, 12:03 AM
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together

Oneironaut
04-17-2007, 12:04 AM
whats the definition of a cult?

any religion can say another is occultic.
If there was a god there would be ONE religion, not 50 with 100 sub-denominations.
one god one planet one religion.
John Lennon said it best with one word.....IMAGINE!:D :stoned:
There are differences between cults and religions, although the line may not be always crystal clear. It's more of a spectrum. And the Jehovah's Witnesses are, in my opinion, dangerously close to the cult end of that spectrum.

And you do have a point there. If Jehovah was real, we'd all be witnesses to him. He wouldn't hide from all the Hindus and Muslims and animists and atheists of the world.

Gatekeeper777
04-17-2007, 12:25 AM
yes my point is whats right for you and your religion is or maynot be right for mine. but imagine how history would of went if that lone shaman cave dweller never thought of explaining lightining and thought of a god or gods.
thus religion is born.

Diary of a Madman
04-18-2007, 05:58 AM
Ever notice there are overbearing parents with kids that dont need it, and ferrel children with drug addict parents that fend for themselves all the time?

What if we reversed it so the kids with common sense didnt have overbearing parents (not nessesarily drug addicts) and the kids with noone had someone to force some structure on their lives.

Sounds so god damned simple. :hippy:

Good luck with your situation.

geonagual
04-18-2007, 06:20 AM
I have family that are Jehovah Witnesses. I actually know a lot about this religion...They do have some valid points on what has been written and what it means...There are also some far fetched pipe dreams involved too. Now, if only I believed in God..I don't think it gonna happen anytime soon..

If only we knew what happens when we die..

nobody does..

Whatever happens, happens and I am not going to waste the time that I have now worrying about what is gonna happen after I die.

jdmarcus59
04-19-2007, 12:11 AM
I have family that are Jehovah Witnesses. I actually know a lot about this religion...They do have some valid points on what has been written and what it means...There are also some far fetched pipe dreams involved too. Now, if only I believed in God..I don't think it gonna happen anytime soon..

If only we knew what happens when we die..

nobody does..

Whatever happens, happens and I am not going to waste the time that I have now worrying about what is gonna happen after I die.

what if what the bible says is true, and there is a very good chance that it is
then you might find yourself in a place where you do not want to be, but dont listen to jw they have the wrong answers because they rewrote the
qustions,,,,,,,when you were young you went were you wanted, but when you became old they came and lead you to were you did not want to be

geonagual
04-19-2007, 12:23 AM
what if what the bible says is true, and there is a very good chance that it is
then you might find yourself in a place where you do not want to be, but dont listen to jw they have the wrong answers because they rewrote the
qustions,,,,,,,when you were young you went were you wanted, but when you became old they came and lead you to were you did not want to be


and what makes you so sure you got the right answers.

It is funny how everyone thinks they know the answer...face it..it is a crapshoot no matter what you believe.

halfassedjediknight
04-19-2007, 12:29 AM
i have jw family as well. its a bummer.

oh ps if you dont want to be part of that religion, just go there and smoke a cigarette or drink a beer or something in front of the place. youll get what they call "disfellowshipped". basically kicked out.

do it!

jdmarcus59
04-19-2007, 01:04 AM
and what makes you so sure you got the right answers.

It is funny how everyone thinks they know the answer...face it..it is a crapshoot no matter what you believe.

and the light came into the world, and this light was the life of men.
AND THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS, BUT THE DARKNESS HAS NOT
UNDERSTOOD IT.

geonagual
04-19-2007, 01:54 AM
and the light came into the world, and this light was the life of men.
AND THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS, BUT THE DARKNESS HAS NOT
UNDERSTOOD IT.


Oh yeah, that answers it all. Thanks:)

jdmarcus59
04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Oh yeah, that answers it all. Thanks:)

and the darkness has not understood it

longgonetx
05-09-2007, 06:19 PM
sucks to have to ride a bike with a shirt and tie all saturday. if im gonna evangelize im wearing shorts, tank top, and riding in my air conditioned truck, possibly smoking a blizunt