I'm SICK of indica and ignorant dealers. [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

TheFatKid

11-19-2006, 10:29 PM

Ok, so I'm at a party, I leave for like 30 minutes to smoke a blunt. Its REALLY good stuff, and I'm high and I'm talkin about sativa and indica to my friends. They have NO fucking clue what it is. So then I call the dude I bought from, and I ask him what it is. His response is"What the fuck are you talking about, I never heard of this before." I just got pissed and hung up.

So I get back to the party, and I realize I'm just gonna chill. I wanna go do stuff and get up and move around or something, but I just can't. Chillin on the couch is my only option. By that time I'm incredibly tired too, and its only been like an hour after I smoked. I hated it so much. This happens EVERY time I get high, and I hate it sooooooo much.

YahtzeeG

11-19-2006, 10:32 PM

lol... I always forget the difference between sativa and indica? is there a thread on it somewhere?

TheFatKid

11-19-2006, 10:36 PM

indica-stuck to the couch high

sativa-crazy ass head high(never experienced before)

ghettoBlunt

11-19-2006, 10:40 PM

you've never had any sativa...i bet you have, just not straight sativa, you've probably had some indica/sativa strains

TheFatKid

11-19-2006, 10:41 PM

Actually, I think I have, but I dont think I have smoked it for a year or two years.

justinsane

11-19-2006, 11:37 PM

that shits all in your head man..

VERY RARELY do i EVER just sit on a couch and veg out. whenever i smoke, im always out doing things. (most bud is a hybrid of sativa and indica anyway.) so just smoke, hop on a skateboard, grab a walking stick, hop on a bike, and enjoy.

Smokin EnDo

11-20-2006, 12:11 AM

I just love weed

11-20-2006, 02:35 AM

around here all you can get is sativa i kind of want an indica strain so i can paly my guitart sative strains make you to jittery and its impossible to play well.

justinsane

11-20-2006, 03:07 AM

no one i talk to actually has the respect for weed that i do, enough to learn as much as they can about it. so ill bring up a few facts about sativa and indica, and all theyll say back is something like...

so can we eat the buds if theyre indica?

SMACK!

Arklenao2

11-20-2006, 08:07 AM

i like getting indica for personal

PdoubleOTY

11-20-2006, 08:33 AM

i know how you feel man...all my friends will be like"this is some fire" or headies, and im like, well what's the strain name? im always trying to figure what the strain is, or where i can get some sativa, or tips for better bud etc.....and other peopl are just like uhhh whatever

Mean Green Charlene

11-20-2006, 08:59 AM

Big time pot dealer i know sells pounds@atime knows his strains, but doesnt even know what sativa is when i ask.

Reefer Rogue

11-20-2006, 09:12 AM

I prefer sativa also. No one I know who I haven't told knows about indica or sativa, they just think of it as 'skunk.' I tell them skunk is a strain but then they tell me skunk is every type of weed =/ Anyway, this site definately helps defeat ignorance. As do I, day by day.

LIP

11-20-2006, 10:00 AM

PdoubleOTY

11-20-2006, 12:42 PM

heh, i remember my days when i was like"this is that fire" "i got that dro" "some purple dooode best shit EVER!"

*sigh* my middle school tokin days

TheFatKid

11-20-2006, 08:34 PM

My friend thinks I'm a complete nerd/loser now for knowing the types of weed. =\

Pride

11-22-2006, 06:58 AM

^ my friend calls me a weed scientist.

Yeah, I fucking hate it when people don't want to know anything about weed, therefore they waste a lot of money on overpriced regs and don't even care cause 'as long as it gets you high'. When they complain it sucks, I'm like 'I told you so!' Oh well, more blueberry for me. fuckin idiots.

Mean Green Charlene

11-22-2006, 08:58 AM

Don't get me wrong. I love indica,as i love sativa. It all depends on the mood im in. :D

Left

11-22-2006, 09:12 AM

Its because of the longer flower time of sativa and the buds arnt as dense so selling it you have less yield in the same time as indinca. Grow it.

Abattoir Dream

11-22-2006, 10:05 AM

Funny, i love Indica. And yeah, you'd be surprised how little dealers know, only dealer that grow really understand. That annoys me, they know nothing about the product they're selling. Same goes for strain names they give people, they have no idea.

Yeh, i second that, all of it...

The thing with sativa is the time it takes to grow, so its pretty rare to buy on road, then when you can finally get some you get people who have no idea goin around like 'fuckin hell! space weed!' and then the cockend dealer who sold it too them who also has no idea is like, wait, i can charge stupid prices for this... and so they do, and then you get people like me who know enough about it come along and have to pay £25 - £30 just for 1/8 of crappy ass sativa (which im not a great fan of) just because some fuckin retards (including the dealer) dont know the difference between sativa and indica.

Learning as much as you can about weed is something everyone should do, that way you have more chance of actually getting good deals, its for your own good...

I swear, with the shit weed goin around here nowadays, (if i had a good contact) i could out-sell the shit weed and get it off these streets AND still make a profit, my only problem is.. who am i gonna get it from...?

LIP

11-22-2006, 07:50 PM

I jyts smoeked 2 joints of some nw stuff i got ^ im' fucked!

:D:D

Happy daiz

orangeman

11-22-2006, 08:30 PM

That's it...from here on out the only way you can be a Cannabis dealer is after you go to cannabis dealing school and graduate :).

Dutch Masta

11-22-2006, 09:43 PM

The majority of strains are a hybrid of some sort. So in reality it is EXTREMELY rare that anyone is ever getting 100% indica or 100% sativa strains (even rarer for sativa). Most people don't know the difference, or have ever even heard of either though.

Its hard to ever be sure of whether or not bud is indica or sativa, so you cant blame your dealer for not knowing.. thats absolutely ridiculous. Most dealers see a lot of different bud so they cant be keeping track or anything..

big smoke07

11-23-2006, 06:16 AM

Yea around here its either mids,dro,kush, or purp. Very few dealers know the actual strain they are dealing or if its sativa or indica.

CYRAX

11-23-2006, 06:40 AM

Hmm, I seem to love the strong stone indica provides, just sit back with your favorite people and play your favorite music.

emanresu

11-23-2006, 09:43 AM

So then I call the dude I bought from, and I ask him what it is. His response is"What the fuck are you talking about, I never heard of this before."

he might've been paranoid bout the cops listenin on cellphone calls..
especially if hes a dealer :P

LIP

11-23-2006, 09:46 AM

By the way for future referance, the pure indicas and sativas that grow are normally called landrace strains, and yeah, it's not easy to find them.

Like dutch said, almost all strains are hybrids between the two, it's not the hardest thing in the world to find a pure indica, just gotta know the right people, IE growers, but sativa, well, thats some hard shit to find.

They'll have plenty in africa tho.

luvtogrow

11-23-2006, 02:05 PM

For me it's all about variety. When you grow indoors you'll learn quickly that true Sativas take a long time to flower and can get too tall for indoors even topping/training. But, we who luv that up speedy high grow em anyway. My favorites are Kali-Mist and SSHaze(not full sat) at the moment, but each of the 10 strains from last 2 grows are great in their own respect. Have 7 strains going to flower today, C99 being one and also the type of high that I enjoy the most. I'd encourage everyone to grow and grow varieties of strains from Indica to Sativa and hybrids between. Sensi Star is an Indica that although have only grown 1 female it was an up high!

Dutch Masta

11-23-2006, 03:27 PM

Yeah its about variety for me too. I tend to get "bored" of strains after they are all I am smoking for a while, meaning I feel like I get a weaker high.. so I like to have at least two or three different types of bud on hand just so I can switch it up a little.

TheSmokingMonkey

11-23-2006, 06:28 PM

last time my dealer gave me some fresh, sticky buds, but they must have been mainly indica (or all indica) b/c it was awful, I mean, I got high, but all I wanted to do was sleep. It was like, medical weed. Not my thing.

So this time I ended up with a bag of shake (got charged the same price as for the nice fresh buds) and initially I was pissed but man... it is way different than the last batch. Did I mention it tastes like oregano? Anyway at first I was pissed and was going to complain but once I tried it I realized that I liked it a lot. It lasts a long time, at least an hour or two longer than most I've tried.

I think the strain IS important, very important. But I can't tell by looking, only by smoking it... I'm kind of a newb .

CYRAX

11-23-2006, 06:52 PM

Cannabis Savita and cannabis Indica are the two basic types or strains of the cannabis plant. There are hybrid strains as well, a combination of these.

Indica sedates, savita excite. Savita is a much cleaner high, with less side effects, like red eyes, the munchies, and there is no coming down, or burned out feeling. Savita is what is called cerebral. You think alot and become enamored with ideas.

Savita is for visions, remembering, excitation

indica is for dreaming, forgetting, sedation

There is totally a difference, most drug dealers are pushing whatever they can find. You really should grow your own, then you know what you are getting, and you don't get caught up with the illegal drug trade.

The bible says something that has alot to do with this idea:

Acts: 17 "'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.

Very nice I enjoyed reading that...

I'm young (15) and I prefer indica cuz I like relaxing after smoking, instead of being active, that's what I do at school and work.

pu ekot

11-23-2006, 07:03 PM

I wish I could get some good indica around here :/

Everyone loves sativa, so that's all I can get

Pride

11-23-2006, 11:44 PM

That's it...from here on out the only way you can be a Cannabis dealer is after you go to cannabis dealing school and graduate :).

yes. Yes. YESSS! *CLAPS*
Then from now on we will have dealers like the one from Half-Baked that delivered to Thurgood's door.

"Damn, did you go to weed college?"

TheFatKid

11-24-2006, 04:32 AM

I wish I could grow sooo badly. I think I'm gonna do an outdoor grow in the summer, but there is a problem. I can't order seeds because I'm only 14. If I do grow it will be indica, unless somewhere along the line I get sativa. I doubt I will with the way things have been going lately though.

pu ekot

11-24-2006, 05:05 AM

yeah sativaa is a really twitchy high, it's annoying

Arnold Layne

11-24-2006, 05:19 AM

I dont even bother with asking about sativa or indica. All i get around here are stupid kids all saying they have "purple haze" or "white widow" or whatever name they herd on TV ( im in highschool )

TheFatKid

11-24-2006, 05:47 AM

I dont even bother with asking about sativa or indica. All i get around here are stupid kids all saying they have "purple haze" or "white widow" or whatever name they herd on TV ( im in highschool )

YES, thats exactly how it is here.

"yo son g poppa crackin lackin. i got da ill purple haze. 30 for a dime son"

"dis da ill hydro its maaaaaad expensive yo, i sell it to ya for 50 for a 20"

I think I've seen one person that sells that knows the name of the strain they are selling.

ronjohn420

11-24-2006, 06:12 AM

Nobody talks about indica sativa its just not a conversation piece. Its weed bro although i do know what it is im not going to say wow this a good sativa strain. It just gets too much into it. Just relax and have a chill time no need to show up your friends with useless information, unless ofcourse you are growing.

yes, and we can ALL obvisoly tell you dont grow or know the first thing about it, i mean if youre going to smoke something/anything you should know where it comes from and what it is..... if i handed you a bunch of mixed shit in a cup and said it would make you "high" would you just chug it down...... and yes it is the same difference

fat kid, way to go!!!!
ill have that convo with you anyday man

later
Ronjohn

TheFatKid

11-24-2006, 06:23 AM

I take my Biology teachers advice.

"Learn about the drug before you do it, and if you do it your a dumbass"
I smoke weed, and I may be pretty fuckin dumb when I am high, but I am definetly NOT a dumbass.

Another question pretty offtopic though. He said that there are little sacks in your lungs, I think they are called vulva? Well anyway he said that if you smoke anything they get hot and pop. This doesn't cause lung cancer or any other disease, does it?

ronjohn420

11-24-2006, 06:27 AM

The majority of strains are a hybrid of some sort. So in reality it is EXTREMELY rare that anyone is ever getting 100% indica or 100% sativa strains (even rarer for sativa). Most people don't know the difference, or have ever even heard of either though.

ha..i must say i second that, but let me throw a stick in the equation...
anyone heard of ruderalis... its the 3rd and most "non talked about" strain group

it flowers by life cycle instead of light cycle, it can be fully flowered under 24/0 lights and is usually found in russia

alittle info for everyone to feed on.....

for futher info check this out
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/2847.html

TheFatKid

11-24-2006, 06:41 AM

Wow ronjohn, never even heard of that before. Like the letter says, does the pure strain give you just a buzzy headache or is there anything else?

I really do love you for posting that.

MastaChronic

11-24-2006, 06:51 AM

^ my friend calls me a weed scientist.

same here dude, but they dont mean it in a cruel way, just playin around

GrowinGranny

11-24-2006, 06:57 AM

I take my Biology teachers advice.

"He said that there are little sacks in your lungs, I think they are called vulva?

Hee...those would be alveoli...if you have vulva in your lungs, that would mean you've inhaled part of a woman's anatomy!

LIP

11-24-2006, 09:37 AM

LOL. I was about to say. vulva is part of the pussy man LOL!!!!

And i dont think they pop no... Not sure, but sounds like bullshit to me.

We need birdgirl!!!

TheFatKid

11-25-2006, 07:47 PM

Oh...my bad >_>

graph

11-25-2006, 08:00 PM

ha..i must say i second that, but let me throw a stick in the equation...
anyone heard of ruderalis... its the 3rd and most "non talked about" strain group

it flowers by life cycle instead of light cycle, it can be fully flowered under 24/0 lights and is usually found in russia

alittle info for everyone to feed on.....

for futher info check this out
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/2847.html

Yeah man, they were crossed with something or other to make the lowryder strains. By themselves ruderalis are more like actual weeds, little to no buds. I found most of that out on wiki a while back, but they have pictures and pictures make me believe something without a doubt. :thumbsup:

I'm an indica man. Throw me an OG strain any day of the week. Of course, sometimes after too much indica you have to go sativa just to stay awake through the day.

Oh, and alveoli, DEFINITELY not vulva. They don't pop every time you smoke, and they're not necessarily sacs the way you think of them. They're the way the oxygen (and other chemicals) are brought into the bloodstream. Whereas tobacco smoke has been shown to cause the alveoli to constrict, which can be a leading cause in lung cancer, there has been no evidence that cannabis smoke causes a constricting of the alveoli, in fact, new studies suggest the opposite.

TheSmokingMonkey

11-26-2006, 12:17 AM

Another question pretty offtopic though. He said that there are little sacks in your lungs, I think they are called vulva? Well anyway he said that if you smoke anything they get hot and pop. This doesn't cause lung cancer or any other disease, does it?

lol- the vulva is the fold of skin that covers the vaginal opening.
the things in the lungs are called alveoli (singular = alveolus)

It doesn't exactly cause them to pop (not like a balloon), it's more like the heat irritates them and they start to break down. The end of this process is emphysema or COPD (a combination of emphysema and asthma symptoms).

Lung cancer isn't caused by this process; it is a separate process where the chemicals in the smoke (free radicals) damage the lung cells' genetic code (DNA and some types of RNA).

TheSmokingMonkey

11-26-2006, 12:22 AM

from the Mayo Clinic:

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is a general term for a group of diseases that cause progressive damage to your lungs. These diseases include chronic bronchitis, asthma and emphysema. Of the more than 16 million Americans with COPD, nearly 3 million have symptomatic emphysema and millions more are in the early stages of the disease before signs and symptoms appear.

Unlike asthma, which occurs when the muscles in your airways tighten, emphysema causes a loss of elasticity in the walls of the small air sacs in your lungs. Eventually, the walls stretch and break, creating larger, less efficient air sacs that aren't able to handle the normal exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide.

When emphysema is advanced, you must work so hard to expel air from your lungs that breathing can consume up to 20 percent of your resting energy. Unfortunately, because emphysema develops gradually over many years, you may not experience symptoms such as shortness of breath until irreversible damage has already occurred. Treatments focus on relieving symptoms and avoiding complications.

CheebaMan

12-24-2006, 03:30 PM

i doubt i ever had sativa in my life

LIP

12-24-2006, 04:21 PM

Maybe not pure, but you've DEFINATLY had a cross. Im 100% sure of it.

TheFatKid

12-25-2006, 04:19 AM

I think last night i had a cross, because i wasn't tired until i went to sleep and for the few first minutes of my high my head was going WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa, but then i was locked to the floor.

JOINTMASTER5

12-31-2006, 05:44 AM

I JUST LIKE WEED MAN, WEED!

poiuyt

12-31-2006, 06:03 AM

sativa>indica

IMO

Platinum Plus

12-31-2006, 04:41 PM

down here in my city almost everybody's dealin lol
i guess it's good, but it's also kind of fucked up ya know?
any random person can get hooked up and sell...
i don't really like it cuz most dealers don't know shizzle
bunch of newbs oh well...

da5mikeY

12-31-2006, 08:54 PM

weed is weed. I win.

da5mikeY

12-31-2006, 08:55 PM

I JUST LIKE WEED MAN, WEED!

thank you

canuck grower

12-31-2006, 10:32 PM

I take my Biology teachers advice.

"Learn about the drug before you do it, and if you do it your a dumbass"
I smoke weed, and I may be pretty fuckin dumb when I am high, but I am definetly NOT a dumbass.

That is good advice to follow. People will do all sorts of stupid things to get high man, like huffing gas. You can huff deodorant and butane and get a buzz, but it can also kill you in minutes. It could be your first time, or you could do it for 10 years and then the next time it kills you. So some kids in high school were doing this, I read about it about it and told them and they still did it. Morons! Eventually someone had to literally die before they stopped, and some didn't even stop then.

I've tried some chemical drugs but you never know what you're getting in a pill or bag of white powder, so it's sketchy unless you really know and trust your dealer. I read about everything I tried, but when you read about people dying on "ecstasy" when they were on PMA, not MDMA, and they had too much to drink, well it makes you think about what you're putting into your body.

These days I stick to alcohol and pot, but mostly pot. :rastasmoke:

Platinum Plus

12-31-2006, 10:45 PM

Green is the Only way to go

pabloescobar209

01-01-2007, 11:46 PM