What are the senses?

[wayoftheleaf]

If you see a shape that is the color red, any child with the basic schooling will know it is the color red. But is the color red that you see the same color that i see? If my brain was to look through your eyes would the color I see be red or another color? If someone tells you a color is something that is what you will know it to be. What if when you see blue, i see green. But since we were told all of our lives these were the color red that is what we would believe it to be.

[orangeman]

I don't think so. You are thinking about this too hard lol.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

What if when you see blue, i see green.

Then your tv would be adjusted all funky and I wouldn't be able to watch it.

[MacWQ33]

I think you're talking about color-blindness.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Newton observed that color is not inherent in objects. Rather, the surface of an object reflects some colors and absorbs all the others. We perceive only the reflected colors.

Thus, red is not "in" an apple. The surface of the apple is reflecting the wavelengths we see as red and absorbing all the rest. An object appears white when it reflects all wavelengths and black when it absorbs them all.

We know we are seeing the same thing, because we have measured the different wavelengths of colors, and we all agree to call the wavelength of an apple, for example, red.

[NightProwler]

If you see a shape that is the color red, any child with the basic schooling will know it is the color red. But is the color red that you see the same color that i see? If my brain was to look through your eyes would the color I see be red or another color? If someone tells you a color is something that is what you will know it to be. What if when you see blue, i see green. But since we were told all of our lives these were the color red that is what we would believe it to be.

i have thought up that EXACT same thought before. I've ive been raised with the color of a stop sign being called red then i associate that color as red. but for all we know, the "red" that im seeing could be the "blue" that you see. we'd never know

[Splifted]

If you see a shape that is the color red, any child with the basic schooling will know it is the color red. But is the color red that you see the same color that i see? If my brain was to look through your eyes would the color I see be red or another color? If someone tells you a color is something that is what you will know it to be. What if when you see blue, i see green. But since we were told all of our lives these were the color red that is what we would believe it to be.

Lol, I've thought about that exact same thing before. Like what if what you see is like the negative image of what I see, and my red is your blue, even though we both know the colors to us as "red". There is no way to tell, cause you can't describe a color without using a color as a reference. Its just something you have to see. :confused:

[Splifted]

Lol, I didn't even read NightProwler's post either before I posted, lol thats funny we even used the same colors to describe it.

[PotHeed420]

that was a good theory, but one flaw. you have colored markers with no color name on them, and there is a coloring book. they show a picture of a stop sign and you color it the color red without knowing the name of the color, no one would color it blue.

[Acouwaila]

THis is a good example of something that can be associated with Platos allegory of the cave

He explains that...if people were tied up to where they cant move staring at the back of the cave and there was a fire way behind them...and figures...or humans moving puppets in between... (speaking of men from childhood)...then the men would only see shadows reflecting on the cave wall..and once that man were to see the real object (the puppets) that is making the shadows...then that in itself would seem less realistic then the shadows....the man would be brought up (from childhood) to think that the shadows were projecting the real physical puppets that were REALLY projecting the shadows...

to sum it up..he is saying....that the way your thought patterns work are based on what u learn as u grow and everything in your surroundings...your repressed memories and thoughts are what decide how you percieve different shit... lol

but aside from that...ive thought about the color thing too...I believe everyone has at one point...

But colors do represent different emotions n shit...so im pretty sure we all see them the same way

as yellow, or blue would not represent rage or hatred...

that would be red or black

and most of us agree to these type of statements

[dusto2k3]

Its all the same. It depends which side of the equator you are on. DUH.

[smoke it]

^^^there are disorders such as color-blindness, but if your eyes work fine, then the wavelengths that we recognize as "red" are the same

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Even so, what if the wavelengths effect everybody differently? Even the wavelengths are red, but if someone else perceives them differently?

Human beings are all "wired" in the same way. Yes, there are exceptions due to medical conditions. But for the most part our bodies, even though they have minor differences, are all constructed from the same common blueprint. Your lungs work the same way my lungs work. Your heart works the same way my heart works. Your eyes work the same way my eyes work. And your brain, believe it or not, works the same way my brain works.

These traits that human beings have in common with each other is what makes it possible for us to develop medicines, therapies, and cures.

[DannyMan]

I don't think so. You are thinking about this too hard lol.

heheh, he's got a good point there.

ive though about that before too, but here's another thought
we most likely see the same colors...but probably not in the same contrast, luminosity, etc. so we probably see the same "colors", but in all kinds of different hues. :D

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Why just colors? Why not flavors also?

Does your chicken taste like my chicken? Does your chocolate taste like my chocolate?

[MFer]

i get what you're saying. I've thought about this.


Everyone knows that, lets say, a regular apple, is red.

Now think this way.

I see it Red. I associate that color with the name Red.
You see it Red. You associate that color with the name Red.
What if, though, I associate your Blue with my Red.

It's confusing.

[mfqr]

I think you're talking about color-blindness.

They are talking about associating different colors with the same names, and not knowing that they are talking about different colors.

Color blindness is about not being able to interpret the wavelengths correctly after they hit the surface of something and bounce back into your eye.

[Inferius]

Why just colors? Why not flavors also?

Does your chicken taste like my chicken? Does your chocolate taste like my chocolate?

People have different taste-buds.
Simply based on the fact that I gag on green beans and someone else doesn't should be enough for that.
But the thing is, the colors and tastes and smells and everything are all the same in of themselves. Our interpretation may be unique, but that doesn't mean we have interpreted it correctly.
Then again, what is correct?

I'm just saying the same thing as everyone else though. Just organized differently.
... blah.

[mfqr]

People have different taste-buds.
Simply based on the fact that I gag on green beans and someone else doesn't should be enough for that.
But the thing is, the colors and tastes and smells and everything are all the same in of themselves. Our interpretation may be unique, but that doesn't mean we have interpreted it correctly.
Then again, what is correct?

I'm just saying the same thing as everyone else though. Just organized differently.
... blah.

I agree with you.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

the colors and tastes and smells and everything are all the same in of themselves

That's exactly right. We are all seeing the same thing, smelling the same thing, and tasting the same thing. We learn which name belongs to which color from our parents and teachers.

You don't like greenbeans. I do. We are both tasting the same thing. It's our preferences that are different.

[MFer]

Simply based on the fact that I gag on green beans and someone else doesn't should be enough for that.




Thank you, that is a perfect example.

I know a lot of people that hate asparagas. I can't get enough of it.

So what proof is there that we all see the same colors the same way, if we dont tastes the same things the same way?

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

So what proof is there that we all see the same colors the same way, if we dont tastes the same things the same way?

But WE DO taste things the same way.

We even have words to describe different tastes: sweet, sour, bitter, tangy, etc.

orangeman was right when he said "You are thinking about this too hard."