WTF is up with the new Can.com logo?!

[PaRaNoIa]

I mean.. A skull?? Isn't that a little.. Err.. Extreme?:p



It looks cool and all that, but still..:p

[Bong30]

I love skulls... bring it on.


you seam a little paraniod?

[AlwaysBlazed]

It looks pretty sweet IMO. It would be cooler though if it was a pot leaf instead of a skull.... or a bong smoking out of a person, lol.

[PaRaNoIa]

I just saw the other thread in feedback and suggestions..


And I kinda agree with most..

[fasterspider]

It shows up even in my favorites. I have a skull tatooed to my left fore arm and a skeleton on my right calf biut I do not really dig on skulls too much anymore. I have changed and so has my taste in skulls.
Lose the skull, it gives a bad imprssion of death for smoking weed and I feel weed gives life so maybe you should put a picture of a giant Kola bud smoking a big spliff.

[NightProwler]

^^ i was just about to say that.. the part about how it makes weed loook like it should be associated with death.

[justinsane]

im not diggin the skull at all to be honest.

when i think of weed, i think of happiness and peacefulness

not decay, death, and badass-ness

[PaRaNoIa]

So..

We all agree, the skull is a nono..:p

[NightProwler]

no ive decided the skull is alright. something as simple as that isnt powerful enough to completley turn someone against weed. i think its good artwork and jsut really neat

[MacWQ33]

Smoke til you die.

[plastik]

IMO this one I made a while back is still better.

[the image reaper]

nice one, Plastik ... :thumbsup:

[lowryderulez]

i can understand wot all of you are sayin, but i see it as a really nice bit of artwork, more interestin in my opinion :thumbsup:

[Dutch Pimp]

It shows up even in my favorites. I have a skull tatooed to my left fore arm and a skeleton on my right calf biut I do not really dig on skulls too much anymore. I have changed and so has my taste in skulls.
Lose the skull, it gives a bad imprssion of death for smoking weed and I feel weed gives life so maybe you should put a picture of a giant Kola bud smoking a big spliff.

...you once liked skulls...now you don't.....sounds like a personal decision..

[bavet]

I wish the scull was changed to something more decent. God given Herb doesn't need to be symbolized by death.

[Shovelhandle]

skulls are fine with me. I've a tattoo of one.

But, I agree that it is inapropriate as a symbol of Pot. I like many of the other suggestions.

Shov

[Nochowderforyou]

Geez you people are hard to please. People complain about a free service. :rolleyes: So snobby if you ask me. Like it or leave. :)

[poiuyt]

I liked the old one better.

Edit: Actually, I like the writing, I just don't like the skull.

[Inferius]

Skull is crap. I vote for aging hippy red-glasses look.

Just a thought.

[Mercsix8six]

yeah that one for sure that be cool a hippie chick and a hippie dude

[mamma puffpuff420]

i think the skull looks great
complain, complain

[Mercsix8six]

itl be what at least another year before that changes again so i guees we have to live it with it looks snazzy word so i like it fuck it not litteraly

[WhiskeyGirl]

Dont like it.... a Peace sign would be kewl tho :)

[budsmoker only]

i like it, i would of never thought of that skull meaning death.. but when you guys say that it kinda does make sense why thats not good.. but w/e.. the writing is badass

[Jedi Hash]

A skull for a site called Cannabis.com? What's next, a NASCAR logo at the Democratic National Convention? :confused:

[Mercsix8six]

instead of a skull puta bong or afat blunt i still say a nug that changes collors along with the pistols changeing too.

[Bodom Children Of]

I just saw it when i logged on and thought it was badass.....seriously though, what's it matter? I barley noticed it before and it'll still be on the backburner. Kinda funny it freaked alot of "peaceful" pot smokers...ahahhalmao

[suhl]

i dont really care. nor do i think whether there is a skull on this site or not going to influence peoples opinions on weed one way or the other.

[sToNeDpEnGuIn420]

good...atleast it wasnt just me lol

[Markass]

Hmm...it's nothing that gets me angry or anything, but I just noticed that and it did surprise me quite a bit..and like that one person said, I think a peace sign would be perfectly sufficient rather than a skull.

[afghooey]

I dont like it either, seems, uh, undergroundish, and thats not what I want to think about what I think of a calming herb.

We want to think of smoking kitties instead.

yeah, I agree with that.

it may be 'bad ass' and have an 'attitude', but do we want weed to be associated with rebellion? :confused: oh well.

[burnable]

i Don't think enough has been said about the dope lettering. seriously it's all 3D and my eye immediately goes to it before anything else on the page, including the skull. I see the skull as sort of a sidenote to the dramatic pronunciation of "cannabis" and the viridescent depth that it affords:pimp:

PS and whether we want to be associated with rebellion or not, being members of the marijuanian persuasion we are inclined to be rebellious because of its nature; for the simple fact that it tends to encourage you to be less concerned with authority figures and peers' opinions and to embrace more abstract, avant garde morals!

[Reefer Rogue]

Peace > Death

[Abattoir Dream]

how the fuck can people like 'skulls'? its just plain sad, no offence to like, everyone who thinks they look good but to me they are a sign of something being cheap and tacky, like those gay ass shirts with stupid dragons and flames all over them.... personally i think it should be something we ALL like and have in common, like a weed leaf.... i mean, since when did skulls become anything to do with weed....

[bluhoo]

Thought this was the wrong site with that skull. We vote no to skull as logo.

[Bodom Children Of]

Thought this was the wrong site with that skull. We vote no to skull as logo.

I didn't know the logo for this site is voted upon. Oh it's not.:thumbsup:
How can so many people whine?

[Skink]

When I first made my statement about the skull I was and still am not whining... I voiced my opinion because I immediately was taken aback at what a skull represents and it did not fit my view on pot... I could give 2 shits about a logo and I am still posting here... this is a feedback and suggestions board and that is all I was doing...I still think it is wrong but,,,controversy is not at all bad for business,,,it is something to talk about,,,that is what a forum does,,,talk...

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Skull or no skull, it doesn't make a difference. It's not like we're gonna see it on billboards or on TV or anything

[suhl]

it is a skull for christ sake stop acting like this matter do you all get upset when you see three year old kids running around dressed up like skeletons on halloween? honestly, if there is a peace sign people arent going to come here and think, "well those potheads are all right." and if it is a skull they arent going to think people here worship satan. its a logo for the love of pete

[Storm Crow]

First off cannabis is a plant of life, not death. It brings joy, it heals the body and mind and it eliminates pain. The skull contradicts the truth about cannabis. Secondly, one of the main causes we have is to legalize cannabis. To do this, among other things, we have to shake the "13 year old stoner" image and promote a more mature image of the pot using community. We are doctors, lawyers, teachers and all of the other professions as well as kids. Cannabis is used by a cross-section of the population. However, the public sees only the "13 year old stoners" and the skull supports this illusion. Then there are the "satanic" implications- yes, I agree no one but a fool would connect using cannabis with satanism- but it seems to me that the prohibs ARE a big bunch of fools! And they will jump on anything that furthers their insane cause. The skull does not help at all! Skulls are immature symbols of teen-type rebellion at best. I don't even want to go into their symbolism at the worst! I'm working on a degree in psychology, and the implications of having a skull as part of the logo for a psychologically supportive site, disturb me. I know that the greater majority of you are under 25 and are male, but even so guys, skulls aren't THAT cool. (I had a big rant here and deleted it- it was on the popularity of skulls and how they can be a marker for insane societies- do your own research if you are interested- start with the Aztecs, and the Skull and Bones Society) The lettering is fine, but the skull must go! I'd replace it with a nice fat indica leaf. :dance:

[justinsane]

somethin i quick whipped up.. i beleive everyone could agree on this.

[notech]

somethin i quick whipped up.. i beleive everyone could agree on this.

Have to agree that a "Skull" gives out the wrong vibe for a cannabis site...

Just look at the amount of Members that have a negative opinion on it,,
so just judging from that fact alone what sort of impression is it going to send
out to visitors who after all are perspective future members. . . .

That's my :twocents: worth,, not it seems that anything is going to change. . . .

Peace out. . . . :thumbsup:

[invision]

the main page and the cannabis logo look horrible :(

[the image reaper]

First off cannabis is a plant of life, not death. It brings joy, it heals the body and mind and it eliminates pain. The skull contradicts the truth about cannabis. Secondly, one of the main causes we have is to legalize cannabis. To do this, among other things, we have to shake the "13 year old stoner" image and promote a more mature image of the pot using community. We are doctors, lawyers, teachers and all of the other professions as well as kids. Cannabis is used by a cross-section of the population. However, the public sees only the "13 year old stoners" and the skull supports this illusion. Then there are the "satanic" implications- yes, I agree no one but a fool would connect using cannabis with satanism- but it seems to me that the prohibs ARE a big bunch of fools! And they will jump on anything that furthers their insane cause. The skull does not help at all! Skulls are immature symbols of teen-type rebellion at best. I don't even want to go into their symbolism at the worst! I'm working on a degree in psychology, and the implications of having a skull as part of the logo for a psychologically supportive site, disturb me. I know that the greater majority of you are under 25 and are male, but even so guys, skulls aren't THAT cool. (I had a big rant here and deleted it- it was on the popularity of skulls and how they can be a marker for insane societies- do your own research if you are interested- start with the Aztecs, and the Skull and Bones Society) The lettering is fine, but the skull must go! I'd replace it with a nice fat indica leaf. :dance:

:dance: I wish I were as gifted at getting a point across, without ruffling feathers as you are, Stormie :thumbsup: ... you absolutely are on top of this, and naturally, I couldn't agree more :dance: ... btw, do you still visit TY ? ... it seems pretty slow over there lately ... :smokin:

[the image reaper]

My problem is that prohibitionists tend to look for things to make us hippies look bad when most of the time there isn't anything.

I can see some pseudo-psychologist on CNN saying "Look at this, this is the logo for the largest online cannabis community in the world. Can you see the skull? It is obviously another manifestation of the violence inherent in the cannabis culture!"

Like we need to hand them another lie.

I don't see why Sundance chose to make the logo have a skull in the first place. Wherefore art thou, Sundance?

another very logical point made ... (from a guy I seldom agree with :D ), good response there, Jake ... :thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

now that the original Thread regarding the logo is 'closed', is the Poll function still operable on it ? ... I already voted, so I have no way of knowing, ... I'm curious as to where the Poll count sits right now, even though many have probably missed it, since Psycho4Bud closed it ... :confused:

[Dutch Pimp]

now that the original Thread regarding the logo is 'closed', is the Poll function still operable on it ? ... I already voted, so I have no way of knowing, ... I'm curious as to where the Poll count sits right now, even though many have probably missed it, since Psycho4Bud closed it ... :confused:

...I think the poll closed..with the thread...frozen...I think a new poll is in order...

[the image reaper]

...I think the poll closed..with the thread...frozen...I think a new poll is in order...

I would like to see a new Poll put up, also ... but, I also remind myself this is a privately owned FREE website, so whatever the owners do is up to them ... wanna put up another Poll, Sundance ?? ... :smokin:

[justinsane]

How bout this homies

another AWESOME suggestion... the amount of people for the new logo is like 3 in 20 as it seems

[the image reaper]

there's been several positive samples presented, I liked most all of them ... hell, the skull would even look good (as a tattoo on an outlaw biker's ass :D ) ... but, for a Pro-marijuana website ??? .... nahhhh :smokin:

[sundance.]

eNuff about the logo already, its just one piece of artwork in a line of many pieces that will be done.

and for all these submisions, yea, they look nice, but unless someone wants to work on the vector source files we wont use em.

[the image reaper]

eNuff about the logo already, its just one piece of artwork in a line of many pieces that will be done.

and for all these submisions, yea, they look nice, but unless someone wants to work on the vector source files we wont use em.

so, this is just the beginning ? .... :confused:

[sundance.]

isnt that what u want anyways, a new logo in place of the new logo.

[the image reaper]

yes, sir ... I would like to see the skull replaced with something more 'positive' ...

[sundance.]

its not going to happen anytime soon, so you all live with it for now, if you dont like it, dont look up

[BobBong]

its not going to happen anytime soon, so you all live with it for now, if you dont like it, dont look up

LoL.. I stopped doing that after the cup cakes wouldn't come down. :yippee: :yippee:



But seriously... I find it pretty funny that such a huge deal has been made over this. :thumbsup:

Remember, I'm an activist just as much as anyone else...and this, in no way would affect any rationally thinking person's concept of Cannabis.
It's worse than judging a book by its cover.. it's like saying that this little skull is going to destroy everything anyone has worked towards in terms of decriminalization.

Ya..
Right!

:weedpoke: :bonghit: :greenthumb: :abduct:
Bob.

[the image reaper]

thank you for clarification ... I say goodbye to you, and cannabis.com ... this website is obviously going in a direction I am not comfortable with, I have always thought of myself as a mature "conscience of cannabis.com", if you can understand ... I wish no one any ill will, ... I will go elsewhere ... good luck and best wishes to all, Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas ...

[BobBong]

thank you for clarification ... I say goodbye to you, and cannabis.com ... this website is obviously going in a direction I am not comfortable with ... I wish no one any ill will, ... I will go elsewhere ... good luck and best wishes to all, Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas ...

And a happy new year :dance:

[sundance.]

bye bye, we'll see you back when we get a new logo :) lol

[justinsane]

just doesnt feel right... thats all..

[Skink]

Hey what about my entry??? I can give you vectors....

[Dutch Pimp]

its not going to happen anytime soon, so you all live with it for now, if you dont like it, dont look up

...like it never happened....I can take a hint....

[birdgirl73]

This situation makes me tremendously sad, particularly the loss of Image Reaper, who had some very valid points, I thought, and who has never been anything but a courteous, valuable member here. Everyone needs to read a bit more about logotypes and symbols in marketing and advertising before writing a negative response to a logo off as irrational. They're the single most important "faces" companies of all types present to the public in representing their images and attitudes. Whether or not you believe this is true, they do provoke immediate, almost subliminal responses, and that's why Image was lobbying for a more positive one here, I'm sure.

That all being said, obviously, the owners of the site have done--and will continue to do--precisely what they want. I'm quite at peace with that. What is much more grievous to me is the loss of an adult gentleman whose courtesy and contributions made these boards a better place to be for everyone.

Vaya con Dios, Image Reaper, and a very happy holiday season to you, too!

[Skink]

This situation makes me tremendously sad, particularly the loss of Image Reaper, who had some very valid points, I thought, and who has never been anything but a courteous, valuable member here. Everyone needs to read a bit more about logotypes and symbols in marketing and advertising before writing a negative response to a logo off as irrational. They're the single most important "faces" companies of all types present to the public in representing their images and attitudes. Whether or not you believe this is true, they do provoke immediate, almost subliminal responses, and that's why Image was lobbying for a more positive one here, I'm sure.

That all being said, obviously, the owners of the site have done--and will continue to do--precisely what they want. I'm quite at peace with that. What is much more grievous to me is the loss of an adult gentleman whose courtesy and contributions made these boards a better place to be for everyone.

Vaya con Dios, Image Reaper, and a very happy holiday season to you, too!

What you say is true in a Logo as you see the stir it caused here... first impressions are very important...

[notech]

bye bye, we'll see you back when we get a new logo :) lol

Well,, that just about sums up your attitude towards the many
MEMBERS that helped put this site where it is today!!!

So your obviously more intent on "trying to poach new members" rather than
been open to listening to the feedback from existing members. . . .

And if the owners of this site are "taking it in a new direction",, they obviously
don't care how many more members they loose in the process!!!

Were not trying to tell ya how to run the house,, people are merely
posting Feedback albeit negative. . . .

Have a good one! :thumbsup:

[xcrispi]

lil bit of skulls never a bad thing .
deal w/ it

[birdgirl73]

You work in advertising/creative, too, right Skink? That's what I did for nearly 20 years in corporate America before going back to school this past fall (I was the writing half of the creative team, partnered with designers). What used to amaze me was how many millions of dollars ad agencies made for logo work alone. I honestly think the company I used to work for quite literally paid for our ad agency's building just with the billiable hours for logo work and focus testing alone. It's a bit of a racquet, really, when you think about it. But the stakes are a lot higher, and the responses much more critical, than most folks realize.

[xcrispi]

i used to drop a friend off on friday nights at oakland co. jail so he could serve weekends n he'd smuggle weed in n puff in holding tanks all weekend . no wonder he was in jail huh ?
peace

[sundance.]

it was directed at him, he made his choice and he decided to leave. it was all on him. i told him there would be more artwork in the pipeline. so the mature gentleman leaves. i listened to the feedback and i understand some dont like the skull. but deal with it. really! it cant be switched over right away and the next piece of artwork wont be for a little bit while. so thats that.

and its been mentioned countless times, we are partnering with a new upcoming website focused on the medical cannabis/co-op side of things

[birdgirl73]

Well,, that just about sums up your attitude towards the many
MEMBERS that helped put this site where it is today!!!

So your obviously more intent on "trying to poach new members" rather than
been open to listening to the feedback from existing members. . . .

Easy there, NoTech. I have to disagree with you here, and I'll tell you why. I think Sundance has been very tolerant in listening to feedback, actually, and that the owners know full well that nothing's going to make everyone happy. Nothing ever does, in case you don't know that yet. They're treading the very fine line between appealng to future members, who are, no matter whether everyone likes it or not, the younger crowd, and pleasing some of the older ones, too. It's a slippery slope, both from an online marketing perspective and from the perspective of foisting change upon some of the more change-resistant types. It's real important that everyone realizes that, at the end of the day, listening to feedback and actually incorporating that feedback are two very distinct things. And at the end of the day, the owners of the site still retain the power to make the final bottom-line decision. I don't say this to play devil's advocate. I say this because I'm a realist who recognizes someone else's ultimate decision when I see it.

[Skink]

it was directed at him, he made his choice and he decided to leave. it was all on him. i told him there would be more artwork in the pipeline. so the mature gentleman leaves. i listened to the feedback and i understand some dont like the skull. but deal with it. really! it cant be switched over right away and the next piece of artwork wont be for a little bit while. so thats that.

and its been mentioned countless times, we are partnering with a new upcoming website focused on the medical cannabis/co-op side of things

I did not see your answer as a flat out no it will not be changed...

[Skink]

You work in advertising/creative, too, right Skink? That's what I did for nearly 20 years in corporate America before going back to school this past fall (I was the writing half of the creative team, partnered with designers). What used to amaze me was how many millions of dollars ad agencies made for logo work alone. I honestly think the company I used to work for quite literally paid for our ad agency's building just with the billiable hours for logo work and focus testing alone. It's a bit of a racquet, really, when you think about it. But the stakes are a lot higher, and the responses much more critical, than most folks realize.

No BG,but I stayed at a holiday in last night...

[birdgirl73]

Oh, heck, I thought you were from the creative "bidness" based on your talented logo work yourself. (And my husband would personally give you the highest award in visual arts today based on your part-time busty avatar.)

Glad to hear you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, however. So you're saying you do choose brands, then, even if you don't work in the marketing field???

[Skink]

Oh, heck, I thought you were from the creative "bidness" based on your talented logo work yourself. (And my husband would personally give you the highest award in visual arts today based on your part-time busty avatar.)

Glad to hear you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, however. So you're saying you do choose brands, then, even if you don't work in the marketing field???

The stuff I do is just a hobby,,, I am a plumber by trade... I am more the Word of mouth kinda person...

[notech]

...think Sundance has been very tolerant in listening to feedback ...know full well that nothing's going to make everyone happy. Nothing ever does They're treading the very fine line between appealng to future members, who are, no matter whether everyone likes it or not, the younger crowd, and pleasing some of the older ones, too. It's real important that everyone realizes that, at the end of the day, listening to feedback and actually incorporating that feedback are two very distinct things. I say this because I'm a realist who recognizes someone else's ultimate decision when I see it.

Never did i mention that sundance wasn't been tolerant,, nor am i of the view
that the owners of this site are in it for the "fun of it". . . . :p
And the fact that younger members are plaguing this place doesn't bother me too much. . . .

But i will have to agree to disagree with you on your point about recognizing
someone else's decision. After all,, the feedback and suggestions area is for
that exactly.
And some people may take the negative comments about the
logo as worthless muttering,, but the reality is,, and you said it yourself,, that
first impressions matter to most people. But as i've already said,, and
now sundance has said it,, it's not going to change anytime soon so that's that then i suppose. . . .

Let the perspective members make up there own mind about the look of the
logo,, and who cares about what us current members think!!

Peace. . . . :thumbsup:

[Dutch Pimp]

...it's not worth falling on your sword about...live to fight another day...keep the faith, baby...

[mamma puffpuff420]

this site belongs 2 sundance
he has the rite 2 put what ever he wnats on here
he should not have 2 argue over a skull or anything else
if some1 wants 2 quit because of the logo on this site
oh well..c ya later
like i said b4
some people r not happy unless there complaining about something
yall need ta just get over it
and get use 2 it

great lookin logo sundance

[latewood]

There is no way that having a skull representing death is a good marketing ploy for the site or the cannabis cause. I have read both threads, and I agree with the old membership on this one. I also am tired of coming into feedback and suggestion's and finding that a thread that was started yesterday was closed before members (including myself) could read it and respond to it. After all; Is not freedom of speech practiced here at cannabisdotcom? hmm?

I agree there are times that total bullshit is posted in the feedback and suggestion area and should be stifled, but in this case I don't see why the membership isn't allowed to read and respond to the concerns of other members.

Personally; I think the skull is in poor taste. (unless you are 14)...but I do agree with the fact that Sundance and his media company own the site and can alter/modify it anyway they choose, because after all freedom of speech is still alive at cannabisdotcom...right?

2 other notes. Image reaper is in my opinion one of the most valuable members we have. His opinion should be valuable to this site. (I realize he took himself out, but It's a shame), and I have to say it...
J. Martinez hit the nail on the head. The prohibitionist's used "like" symbols to criminalize hemp/marijuana in the 1st place. 1st impression's are everlasting and cannot be reversed. With the current political climate in mind; I feel we need to err on the side of compassion...Not! "cool" symbolism. Just MHO.

I hope I am not offending anyone, but I felt this had to be said. I apologize to my fellow moderators, and admin for disagreeing with you.
longtime valuable and positive member of Cdot. latewood

[TheGreenFog]

Geez you people are hard to please. People complain about a free service. :rolleyes: So snobby if you ask me. Like it or leave. :)


i think the skull looks great
complain, complain


lil bit of skulls never a bad thing . deal w/ it

Isn't this the feedback section? I think that everyone has a right to their own opinion. I didn't read the whole thread word for word, but I didn't really see anyone making any unreasonable statements when they were "complaining" about the skull.

I personally think the new lettering is cool, but I have to agree with the large majority of members who have posted here about the skull. I'd have to say it's probably not the best representative for the site.

I am also surprised and dissapointed that Image Reaper has decided to leave. That is unfortunate, to be sure.

I understand also that it is not going to be changed immediately, I mean how long has that Bud of the Day been up there? :)

I'm not going to stop posting, because I really like the site, and I always have the top of the page scrolled out anyway. LOL

I also have confidence that the "management" will take these member opinions into consideration.

:D:D

Be cool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

To be clear, though, I vote no for the skull...if we are "voting" here. lol

[Psycho4Bud]

thank you for clarification ... I say goodbye to you, and cannabis.com ... this website is obviously going in a direction I am not comfortable with, I have always thought of myself as a mature "conscience of cannabis.com", if you can understand ... I wish no one any ill will, ... I will go elsewhere ... good luck and best wishes to all, Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas ...

Much respect my friend. You left with dignity and didn't play the fool like some I've seen. Happy Trails to you!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVgkcW0luc0):jointsmile:

Have a good one!:D

[Skink]

Nobody mentioned the favicon,,,they are very small,,,16x16 pixels,,, and should be made with as little detail as possible so people can make out what it is... I know it is probably a skull because of the new logo,,,but I can't make it out...

Ok I blew it up and it is a crop of the logo...

[RedLocks]

To be truthful when i saw the new logo it did bother me a bit. but in the greater scheme of things I think there are things that are more hurtful to the pro marijuana and legalization movement than a logo, so not gonna bitch about it, or delve deeper into my statement even.

[stinkyattic]

Wow... off the boards for a few days and return to... a SKULL? Please! Here I am trying to portray cannabis as a valuable medicinal herb with great benefits to society, and you guys [Sundance] decide to go with the whole skull thing... isn't the skull a symbol of POISON?... and here I was sitting on the fence for a while anyway thinking how I was about ready to leave myself because of all the violent references in some of the threads, and the only thing really keeing me here are the responsible cultivators in the grow area, seriously WHAT THE FUCK. TOTALLY NOT THE IMAGE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY REALLY NEED TO BE PUTTING UP FOR OURSELVES. AND NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO BE A PART OF. I know one of the mods mentioned that Image REaper and myself were both being considered to be moderators... and I don't even think I'd want to be one anymore if this is the way it's going to go here. Now, I'm going to go ahead and double-post this rant in the grow lounge because if I leave, that's where my crowd hangs out, and OH FUCK THIS.

[BobBong]

I'm sorry you feel this way stinky.

I seriously think that many many of you have over reacted to this new logo.

But if you see it a reason to leave this community, so be it.

Bye.

[stinkyattic]

Yeah, well, thanks a heap.

Idiots like karmaxul/gandor/harmony haven't been IP banned yet and still get to spew their spam and discord, and contributing users get our posts deleted.

That's fine, Sundance can do whatever they want, but I somehow still feel like I've put too much hard work not to get to speak my piece.

[Skink]

Wow... off the boards for a few days and return to... a SKULL? Please! Here I am trying to portray cannabis as a valuable medicinal herb with great benefits to society, and you guys [Sundance] decide to go with the whole skull thing... isn't the skull a symbol of POISON?... and here I was sitting on the fence for a while anyway thinking how I was about ready to leave myself because of all the violent references in some of the threads, and the only thing really keeing me here are the responsible cultivators in the grow area, seriously WHAT THE FUCK. TOTALLY NOT THE IMAGE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY REALLY NEED TO BE PUTTING UP FOR OURSELVES. AND NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO BE A PART OF. I know one of the mods mentioned that Image REaper and myself were both being considered to be moderators... and I don't even think I'd want to be one anymore if this is the way it's going to go here. Now, I'm going to go ahead and double-post this rant in the grow lounge because if I leave, that's where my crowd hangs out, and OH FUCK THIS.
Stinky,,,may I ask your age??? seems the younger culture today is on a different course and the bad ass skull is appropriate...

I am left to think that this being a popular site,,, the tide has ultimately shifted,,, and we old timers will fade like our Forefathers... let's hope we still have a say!!!

[BobBong]

Yeah, well, thanks a heap.

Idiots like karmaxul/gandor/harmony haven't been IP banned yet and still get to spew their spam and discord, and contributing users get our posts deleted.

That's fine, Sundance can do whatever they want, but I somehow still feel like I've put too much hard work not to get to speak my piece.

IP Banning doesn't happen because IP's like hostnames can be changed, blocked and recycled.
Ban one IP you possibly ban 3 or 4 people at the same time.

It doesn't matter how much "work" you've put in here... whether you've been here 2 years or 2 months. It's called supporting a community despite the changes... but not everyone does that.

Take care stinky, we hope you stick around with us. But if not, again.. so be it.

Bob.

[Skink]

I'm sorry you feel this way stinky.

I seriously think that many many of you have over reacted to this new logo.

But if you see it a reason to leave this community, so be it.

Bye.

Bob it's that damn first impression thing again,it hits us hard... the culture is changing in my opinion and it is hard to swallow,,,just like my father hated my music,,,sorta...

[stinkyattic]

I'm 28. Still young but mature enough to know when it's time to throw in the towel and let the kids do their thing. I guess it's back to my local flesh-and-blood growing community. I really have enjoyed participating in the forums but the fact that some things have really rubbed me the wrong way- like the skull, the avatar of some girl getting shot in the head, lots of jokes about beating up your girlfriend to show her who's boss, lilttle punks trying to grow in their parents' house and putting the family in danger, scavengers bragging about the crop they stole, kids talking about how they have to carry a gun to pick up their weed, and all that crap that I find dishonorable... forget it. I don't WANT to be bad-ass. I want to be able to grow openly within the confines of revised legislation. Does it seem that Sundance is making more money with cannabis being illegal than they would if it were decriminalized?

[thcbongman]

The skull is in bad taste. It leaves an impression that marijuana is evil.

[Psycho4Bud]

the avatar of some girl getting shot in the head, lots of jokes about beating up your girlfriend to show her who's boss, lilttle punks trying to grow in their parents' house and putting the family in danger, scavengers bragging about the crop they stole, kids talking about how they have to carry a gun to pick up their weed

If I were to see this avatar I'd personally erase it. Next, the rest of what you speak of here would be a bannable offense if it was noticed.......just so much we can cover but we try.

karmaxul/gandor/harmony:

karmaxul.........every time you create an account and it's found ALL posts and threads will be deleted. I did it before on harmony, just did it on gandor, and will be checking out the I.P. on a daily till you decide to get a clue. If you really feel like wasting your time........I'll keep on banning and deleting.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[birdgirl73]

I'm 28. Still young but mature enough to know when it's time to throw in the towel and let the kids do their thing. I guess it's back to my local flesh-and-blood growing community. I really have enjoyed participating in the forums but the fact that some things have really rubbed me the wrong way- like the skull, the avatar of some girl getting shot in the head, lots of jokes about beating up your girlfriend to show her who's boss, lilttle punks trying to grow in their parents' house and putting the family in danger, scavengers bragging about the crop they stole, kids talking about how they have to carry a gun to pick up their weed, and all that crap that I find dishonorable... forget it. I don't WANT to be bad-ass. I want to be able to grow openly within the confines of revised legislation. Does it seem that Sundance is making more money with cannabis being illegal than they would if it were decriminalized?
If you can see it from this perspective, StinkyAttic, the reasons you listed above are precisely why you should stay. The way I see it, they're why those of us who don't exhibit the punk factor should be eager to stick it out here. Because we're the faction that offsets that other one. That shows the world cannabis supporters/users truly are smart and peaceful adults who have good sense. And because we need as many of us as we can get, including you.

Yep, the skull rubs many of us the wrong way. But it will change in time. Sundance has already said so. And I don't think he'd have said that if it weren't true.

I personally would miss the heck out of you if you left!

[stinkyattic]

The way I see it, they're why those of us who don't exhibit the punk factor should be eager to stick it out here. Because we're the faction that offsets that other one. That shows the world cannabis supporters/users truly are smart and peaceful adults who have good sense. And because we need as many of us as we can get, including you....I personally would miss the heck out of you if you left!
I appreciate the support and sincerely hope that Sundance will come around to a website design that is as inoffensive and CLASSY as the leaf background was. It's tough to look like a peaceful person posting beneath a logo with connotations of violence.

[justinsane]

I do like the new home page, i find the links to be infomative and interesting... something else to look at... but the logo.. is a woopsidaisy!

allow me to elaborate with photoshop.
this is what i percieve as apropriate logos.

[Skink]

I lost my internet... I agree it is better to stay and try and change opinion and and attempt to set our disturbed youth on a better path...

[JR77]

It's not like the skull is inappropriate; it's more like what is the significance of it? I don't really care either way - but I don't really like the skull either....but it's not THAT bad!

[stinkyattic]

Think of it from the point of view of a medical user with a terminal illness...then it seems VERY inappropriate.

[EckyThump]

Think of it from the point of view of a medical user with a terminal illness...then it seems VERY inappropriate.

Fair comment like :thumbsup:

peace

[pabloescobar209]

Like I said in a similar thread in the lounge... It looks like a doodle in a 16yr olds notebook. It makes the site look like a joke...

[doco]

When I saw the new logo I thought it was juvenile but I'm new here and consider myself like a guest at someone else's house...not my place to criticize the decor. But I can understand how people who have put in a lot of time and energy into these forums can personalize it and become resistant to change.

Some people think I don't like change. I like changes fine if they go my way. An error at the bank in my favor, I'm cool with...it's when they don't go my way that I dislike change.

I feel badly that a few members whose opinions & insights I value greatly either have left or may leave. They have both been helpful to me and I wish them well...I know they will continue to help others along the way.

It's not change that hurts, its the resistance to change that causes problems....we've all heard that and it's true.

[Psycho4Bud]

and consider myself like a guest at someone else's house...not my place to criticize the decor.

THANK YOU!! This has been exactly my feelings on the subject the whole time.

Have a VERY good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

LOL........Skink did make a great suggestion though.............

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Storm Crow]

Stinky Attic, Bird Girl has it right. Without us older heads, the kids are going to get into far more trouble than they would with us (gently) nagging them. I'm going to stick it out in spite of the skull. Of course, I'm a bit of a masochist, I enjoy working with 7th graders. Even so, the skull is extremely poor taste and greatly offends me as a medical user. It is a magnet for the under-age crowd (who are supposedly all over 18, but are years shy of it). Sundance, are you attempting to draw in the very crowd that is supposedly banned due to their tender age? This confuses me! Anyway, I am going to continue to gripe about the skull, because I am a stubborn old bird and I feel it has no legitimate place here. A wise owner of any service listens to his customers or he loses them- quickly.

[babystarbud]

well it dosent bother me none....but valid points, it would give the casual visitor the wrong impression.

what im more dissapointed with is the lack of creativity with the logo...
im not going to get all upset about it or leave or anything but come on....a skull with a pot leaf on it? looks like some tacky bong art from a second rate head shop, classy! lol

im sure with a bit of thought and consideration a logo could be made that everyone likes.
anyway, im not going to rant anymore, just thought i should make my opinion known.

peace.

[Weedhound]

I guess its the energy that makes a difference....I honestly thought the thing was some sort of lilly or something--looked ugly enough as that. I don't know the owner of this site but yes, he gets to choose and yes, I get to think it's in poor taste. What I'm sensing here though is bad energy and while it is not surprising to feel that in the people who write in; it makes me very uncomfortable when the ones in charge pour out such bad vibes.....like it or leave....good riddance if you have a different opinion....ain't changing it soon so tough titties.... how sad.

[Abattoir Dream]

I really have enjoyed participating in the forums but the fact that some things have really rubbed me the wrong way- like the skull, the avatar of some girl getting shot in the head, lots of jokes about beating up your girlfriend to show her who's boss, lilttle punks trying to grow in their parents' house and putting the family in danger, scavengers bragging about the crop they stole, kids talking about how they have to carry a gun to pick up their weed, and all that crap that I find dishonorable... forget it. I don't WANT to be bad-ass. I want to be able to grow openly within the confines of revised legislation.

okay, so ALL of this stuff is bad, taking a gun out to go score, growing in the parents home etc. dont you think all this shows how badly weed needs to be legalized, i mean, the only reason the weed world has problems like this is due to it being listed as 'criminal activity' if it were legal there wouldnt be a problem, and argueing between each other is only gonna divide us more... we shouldnt be fighting over a stupid picture, we should be fighting for our rights... and leaving these forums isnt gonna do any good whatsoever, argueing doesnt help at all... we are argueing with a passion here, and for what?!? a fuckin picture!?! to be honest the picture needs to be changed and we need to change too, lets stop argueing and come to a sensible decision... i mean, surely youve all heard the saying 'united we stand, divided we fall' right? and arguing will only divide us further...

thats just my opinion, im goin to make a poll on this unless someones already done it...

[Abattoir Dream]

Well thats just fuckin great.... i cant make a fuckin poll... even though someone who join after me with less posts can..

So whoever can make a poll, make one, about this whole skull thing... then we can have a fair say...

[Skink]

I thought this was gonna die...

[bong.info]

As previously sstated by sundance in these posts...

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=91586

Cannabis.com is now a business and in it for the money. It is no longer a informational site or community but a future media site for the masses. Of course he has said he will have LINKS to other pages regarding activism, medical, and other cannabis related topics(to satisfy the older members), but it seems the focus will be on mainstream media.

Oh and quick question, Since this is now considered a business, are you Mods paid for your services, or are you working for free to help make others money? You know since this is a business and all, you should get paid and receive a yearly 1099.

[Psycho4Bud]

As previously sstated by sundance in these posts...

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=91586

Cannabis.com is now a business and in it for the money. It is no longer a informational site or community but a future media site for the masses. Of course he has said he will have LINKS to other pages regarding activism, medical, and other cannabis related topics(to satisfy the older members), but it seems the focus will be on mainstream media.

Oh and quick question, Since this is now considered a business, are you Mods paid for your services, or are you working for free to help make others money? You know since this is a business and all, you should get paid and receive a yearly 1099.

You don't think Cannabis.com was a buisiness before? LOL Get real! How much was this site sold for again? How about the rules? In your good ol' days when members could tell the mods to fuck off and die without getting a ban what could have been the reason behind that? Was it the "freedom of speach" or was it that banned members don't access money making banners?

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

So whoever can make a poll, make one, about this whole skull thing... then we can have a fair say...

If you frequent a friends house to smoke up, whatever.......do you get a fair say as to how they decorate or paint their house? Get real!

This has to be the most rediculous thread that I've seen since the psychotropics forum closed!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Quote:
Originally Posted by doco
and consider myself like a guest at someone else's house...not my place to criticize the decor.




THANK YOU!! This has been exactly my feelings on the subject the whole time.

Have a VERY good one!:thumbsup:

Well, this is the "Feedback and Suggestions" page, so these posts seem appropriate IMO.

Shov

[Psycho4Bud]

Well, this is the "Feedback and Suggestions" page, so these posts seem appropriate IMO.

Shov

They are appropriate..........I never said that they weren't but ya also have to realize that this is someone elses house that we are allowed to visit for FREE. THAT is the point that some of us are making; this is feedback right?

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[graph]

I don't agree with it, but that's not my problem. If I ever introduce people to this website, I'm going to say, "yeah it's pretty cool, not so much the logo though" and that'll be the end of that. I'll make my voice heard about my opinion on what a little bit of pixels means to me, but in the end I come on here to have fun. This site is not my political or moral voice, so I can safely say that that skull has absolutely no effect on me whatsoever.

And in the end, what does it matter? If I don't like the future generation of this website, I'll just stop coming. Until then, though, I hope the rest of you enjoy my posts. EVERYTHING's a business though, and everyone's always in it for money. It's not a good or bad thing, but it is the way the world works, and always has.

What vector program though? I'm in.

[Weedhound]

Sorry I don't agree with you graph. I have met quite a few folks who don't seem "in it for the money" Yes, we all have to live, eat, pay rent etc. but I see way too many people these days when faced with the choice of making more money vs doing what they believe is right consider the answer a no brainer--I suppose because "everyone else is doing it." I heard an excellent statement somewhere the other day...."nothing makes people quite so transparent as greed.". You are correct in saying that when it stops working for you, you'll stop coming. That's my feeling exactly. If you want good guests, you have to be a good host (but having good guests has to matter first)

[Weedhound]

On the other side...the owner stated in no uncertain terms what he wants to accomplish and what his plans are for this site. We need to appreciate his honesty and openness and use that information for our choices. He just cut through a lot of bullshit in my opinion and saved me tons of time trying to figure things out. I, for one, really do appreciate the direct, open reply.

[Abattoir Dream]

If you frequent a friends house to smoke up, whatever.......do you get a fair say as to how they decorate or paint their house? Get real!

This has to be the most rediculous thread that I've seen since the psychotropics forum closed!

Have a good one!


no, of course you dont, because you are there as a guest, but when we come on these forums just as much as everyone else, we arent guests anymore... or are we? i dunno, i thought i was a member, but obviously not...

all i was saying is someone should make a poll, that way at least you guys know the score, and we can tell you what we think, you dont have to listen, its just feedback... but surely this thread isnt so ridiculous after all if its already got 6 pages and ppl have left because of it....

i dunno, i just think it would be nice if we could have a say... after all, we are a community arent we? or is that out the window too?

[sdhall36]

I think that maybe Sundance's abrupt attitude towards Image Reaper (a caring long establised member) may have ruffled a few feathers.

The whole logo (and font) looks like it should be in a Marvel Comic Book or something.

Kudos Latewood! - Much respect.

Just my 2c - Hall

[sundance.]

ppl, you all need to do a SEARCH.

Its all been hashed out

this thread is closed

Bottom points to get into your head:

-- There is more artwork in the pipeline
-- Some like the skull / Some dont ---> dont expect any immediate changes as the gentleman imagereaper basically wanted until the other artwork in the pipeline is done.
-- we are partnering with other cannabis websites that focus on various other things
--if you start another thread about this, you are just a chronic complainer who just begs for attention