Mid-flight sexual play lands US couple afoul of anti-terrorism law

[Great Spirit]

Ok this is just plain fucking ridiculous and authoritarian.

Isn't great to know that we had a lovely Congress who voted for this piece of shit Enabling....I mean Patriot Act?? Cuz them freedom hating Muslims want you! ;)
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http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/terror_laws_mid_flight_sexual_play_lands_us_couple _afoul_of_terror_law.htm

The News International | November 14, 2006

WASHINGTON: A couple's ill-concealed sexual play aboard a Southwest Airlines flight from Los Angeles got them charged with violating the Patriot Act, intended for terrorist acts, and could land them in jail for 20 years.

According to their indictment, Carl Persing and Dawn Sewell were allegedly snuggling and kissing inappropriately, "making other passengers uncomfortable," when a flight attendant asked them to stop, reads the indictment filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

On a second warning from the flight attendant, Persing snapped back threatening the flight attendant with "serious consequences" if he did not leave them alone.

The comment was enough to have the couple, both in their early 40s, arrested when the plane reached its destination in Raleigh, North Carolina, and charged with obstructing a flight attendant and with criminal association.

They have been placed under legal surveillance until their trial on February 5. If found guilty, they both could be sent to jail for up to 20 years.

Persing's lawyer William Peregoy said his client was not feeling well when he placed his head on his companion's lap, and that he only threatened the flight attendant with reporting him to his superiors on landing.

[darkside]

the conservatives are getting closer to their ultimate goal---to ban sex, except of course meth fueled closet gay sex and page rape.:D

[KiEfBoyjBm]

^^ I sincerely doubt that is their ultimate goal...perhaps a line-item on their agendas, but not an ultimate goal. lol

I think this will go much further than a couple hundred dollar fine and millions of dollars worth of wasted arbitration within our justice system. I'm sure this was very regrettable for both parties involved. And I bet the flight attendant is laughing his ass off.

[pisshead]

i think we need to ban all smiling, everywhere in the country, to protect our freedom from those freedom hating evil muslims whose sole motivation for the terrorism is the hatred of our freedom.

so if we get rid of freedom, which the patriot act does for anyone who's actually taken the time to read it, then we'll be ahead of the terrorists...score one for freedom(tm) is slavery double plus good!

The "Nuzzling" Terror Cell
Couple face 20 years behind bars for "kissing and cuddling" on a plane as airline insanity flies to new heights
Steve Watson
Infowars.net (http://infowars.net/)
Wednesday, November 15, 2006
The Insanity of Homeland Security enforced airline security measures reached a new high today as two American citizens were charged with violating the Patriot Act (http://infowars.net/articles/november2006/151106anti-terrorism.htm) for "sexual play" on a Southwest Airlines flight from Los Angeles.
Just when you thought it was safe to get back on a plane, just when you thought it may be possible to fly without fear of hijacking by liquid explosive baby milk wielding psychopath Islamofascists bent on destroying 400 airliners all at once thus igniting atmospheric gasses and triggering mass armageddon all over the planet, you were wrong.
You were wrong because now we must face the threat of the "nuzzling" terrorists.
Carl Persing and Dawn Sewell, a couple in their early forties, were observed nuzzling or kissing each other on the neck, and allegedly engaging in more adult sexual acts. "During these actions, Sewell was observed smiling," reads the indictment filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
OH NO NOT "SMILING" AS WELL, HOW COULD THEY?
In all seriousness however, this may at first seem like an isolated incident, sadly it is not, it is the latest in an unending series of examples of ludicrous airport and airline incidents that indicate the extent to which freedom of movement is under attack. It is also the latest example in a long history of the use of the Patriot Act against lawful American citizens (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/091004patriotact.htm).
Persing and Sewell are facing up to twenty years in prison for violating legislation that, although unlawfully passed, is supposed to be for use against those who commit or intend to commit terrorist acts.
Today also saw a 65-year-old Australian man fined S$10,000 ($6,423), under the United Nations anti-terrorism regulations, by a Singapore court for uttering the word "bomb" (http://infowars.net/articles/november2006/151106bomb.htm) on a flight to Indonesia.
He was lucky he wasn't gunned down like the incident in Miami where Rigoberto Alpizar (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/091205miamiincident.htm) was shot on board American Airlines Flight 924 for "saying he had a bomb".
Previous mind boggling airport and airline incidents include:


A Wisconsin man who wrote "Kip Hawley is an Idiot" on a plastic bag containing toiletries was detained (http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/290906Idiot.htm) in September.
An 83-year-old wheelchair bound breast cancer, broken hip from a fall and stroke victim was manhandled and treated to extra screening at At Denver International Airport, (http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2006/060406terrortargets.htm) in April.
Harraj Mann was reported to the British airport police for listening to a Clash record (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/05/clash.terror.reut/index.html?section=cnn_latest) in a taxi on the way to the airport. The weasel driver was so frightened by some of the lyrics that he took them as a rallying call for a terrorist attack.
A man was arrested in Portland airport in december 2002 for becoming angry when security groped his pregnant wife (http://www.boingboing.net/2002/12/22/airport_cops_grope_p.html) and ordered her to strip in front of hundreds of other passengers.
Passengers on a flight returning from Malaga Spain complained about two Asian men who they thought were potential suicide hijackers. The evidence? They were Asian! To the astonishment of the students (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/240806shock.htm) they were marched off the plane at gun point before it took off.
On August 14th a British Airways flight bound for New York was diverted back to Heathrow Airport because a mobile phone rang (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20125211-953,00.html)at the rear of the plane and its owner was not to be found.
In August of this year we saw the mother of all fake terror alerts used to beta test a system of total tyrannical control (http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/110806liquid.htm)within airports where mothers carrying baby milk (http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/august2006/140806babymilk.htm) as well as gel bra wearers (http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/170806Authorities.htm), lip gloss users, people who wear coats and children who carry dolls (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/150806Dolls.htm) were treated as possible terrorists.
Several incidents have occurred where people who rely on medication have become ill or even fallen into comas (http://infowars.net/articles/November2006/021106coma.htm)because airport staff have refused to let them take medicines on board.
While a couple of weeks before a tabloid reporter had "planted a bomb (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/240706Bomb.htm)" on a nuclear waste train by just walking onto it, the British and American public were being ordered around, background checked, screened and analyzed in any airport they entered.
Similarly, test runs where terrorists smuggle dummy nuclear bombs (http://www.theworld.org/worldfeature/border/part5.shtml) across the US border without being apprehended were successfully conducted by Glenn Spencer's American Border Patrol on three separate occasions. Airports and the general public, however, remain the focus of beefed up security measures.
Immediately after the very dubious plot details broke the British Government again attempted to ram though draconian detainee legislation (http://www.infowars.net/articles/August2006/130806detention.htm), only to face a fierce backlash from the public who were sick and tired of being treated like mindless fools that believe anything they are told by their leaders.
Airline companies too have viscously attacked the government, this week it was revealed that BA's "terror alert" bill has hit 100 million pounds (http://infowars.net/articles/november2006/031106BA.htm).
It is now clear that anything anyone does in an airport or on a plane, including talking and kissing, is being categorized as possible terrorism. This is an excuse to implement the first stage of an agenda to create a two tier caste system whereby only government authorized citizens will be able to travel and everyone will be subject to intense airport style harassment on city streets.
Such idiotic excuses are being used everyday to cram our lives with escalating security measures, biometric (http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2005/131005biometrics.htm) and body (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1348172,00.html) scans, lie detector tests (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB115551793796934752-2hgveyRtDDtssKozVPmg6RAAa_w_20070813.html), behavior analysis, facial analysis (http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/170806Faces.htm) and spot teams (http://infowars.net/articles/August2006/210806passengers.htm) to spy on passengers. We are being acclimatized to these things, first within airports. Technology and measures that you don't even see used in prisons or high security facilities are being passed off as completely normal in airports.
Every indication suggests that there are moves afoot to implement these measures and methods into everyday life. A year ago we were told that Federal air marshals were to expand their work beyond airplanes, launching counterterror surveillance at train stations and other mass transit facilities. So called "Visible Intermodal Protection and Response" teams â?? or VIPER teams (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/141205viperteams.htm), may soon be permanently implemented on everyday transport facilities.
With no real threat to counter such teams will busy themselves busting people selling tokens (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/131205riderbusted.htm) and herding people around like cattle in 'shock and awe (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/291105frogcooked.htm)' programs, whatever the hell that term is supposed to mean now, prodding them through transit scanners (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705bodyscanner.htm).
We are told that an attack on transit systems with in the US is inevitable (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705attackinevitable.htm), In Canada record levels of funding (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/11/14/transit-funding.html)are now being poured into transit security to develop new surveillance networks, including cameras; develop risk assessments and security plans, and hire staff. Of course this is necessary because despite the moves to totally crank up security on transit systems, Al Qaeda has them as their main targets. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/111106transit.htm)
The airports are merely a beta test for the exact same measures to be rolled out in major cities, where regular checkpoint officials inspect internal passports and consumers are body scanned to enter a supermarket or any kind of public event as spy drones swoop overhead (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/240806Bug.htm) to catalogue movement and alert authorities to any suspicious body language (remember Poindexter's gait analysis? (http://www.refuseandresist.org/article-print.php?aid=801)).
The majority of what I outlined is already being implemented at major transport and police hubs in the US and Britain. When the technology to automate these measures is more widely used, its cost will drop and in turn spread like wildfire outside of the major cities and into local communities - unless we scream bloody murder and stop it before it makes it out of the airport terminal and onto our street corners and we all end up being categorized as suspects along with the "nuzzling terrorists".

[andruejaysin]

the conservatives are getting closer to their ultimate goal---to ban sex, except of course meth fueled closet gay sex and page rape.:DI had a meth fueled threesome with my girlfriend and her mom a couple days ago. I dunno if conservatives would approve, but I had to share.:D :D

[Psycho4Bud]

"On a second warning from the flight attendant, Persing snapped back threatening the flight attendant with "serious consequences" if he did not leave them alone."

But as Steve Watson knows.........the truth doesn't sell tapes! It's REALLY because they were making out...;)

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Bong30]

They dont want to hear the truth P4B..... they just spin it.

[Big Bad Brit]

The nazis never left us they just moved to america.

[darkside]

"On a second warning from the flight attendant, Persing snapped back threatening the flight attendant with "serious consequences" if he did not leave them alone."

But as Steve Watson knows.........the truth doesn't sell tapes! It's REALLY because they were making out...;)

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

but do you think that's enough for a possible 20 yr. prison term. come on the guy wasnt a terrorist, just some middle aged dude trying to join the mile high club. this is fucking rediculous

[Psycho4Bud]

but do you think that's enough for a possible 20 yr. prison term. come on the guy wasnt a terrorist, just some middle aged dude trying to join the mile high club. this is fucking rediculous

Come on now....your completely missing the point here. Becoming a member of the mile high club is a risk but if caught it's no big deal. (She gave them a warning to stop.) This dude got it for threatening the staff. These days if you make that sort of comment to any flight attendant in the air I would imagine it would be a pretty bad offense.

Hell, tell ya what........if you make a threat in here to a member or a mod guess where that would put ya? Probably on a permanant ban. Now if I'm on a flight and hear some asshole that can't get a grip on himself start to threaten the flight attendant I would be a bit concerned.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Psycho4Bud]

but do you think that's enough for a possible 20 yr. prison term. come on the guy wasnt a terrorist, just some middle aged dude trying to join the mile high club. this is fucking rediculous

One more thing........the "20 year" thing is a max. possible. Just like anything else.....they'll review the circumstances, take a look at where his mind is at and make a decision from there. One thing is probably for sure though.......ol' boy will be doing the Greyhound for quite a while.

LOL.......he may even like it. Good times on the back of the bus during the nights.:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

One more thing........the "20 year" thing is a max. possible. Just like anything else.....they'll review the circumstances, take a look at where his mind is at and make a decision from there. One thing is probably for sure though.......ol' boy will be doing the Greyhound for quite a while.

LOL.......he may even like it. Good times on the back of the bus during the nights.:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:Gee.....I wonder how many murderers and rapists got away this time by concentrating on 2 people not doing a violent thing.

[Psycho4Bud]

Gee.....I wonder how many murderers and rapists got away this time by concentrating on 2 people not doing a violent thing.

Considering your track record in here I can see your logic on this. Not much to concentrate on ..........just nab the asshole when he departs the plane.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

Considering your track record in here I can see your logic on this. Not much to concentrate on ..........just nab the asshole when he departs the plane.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:Was the act HARMING anyone? No victim..NO CRIME! :thumbsup: and thats the way it should be for any country claiming to be free.

[Psycho4Bud]

Was the act HARMING anyone? No victim..NO CRIME! :thumbsup: and thats the way it should be for any country claiming to be free.

Hell no! Why not bend over your lady in front of a plane full of adults and KIDS? THEN when caught........threaten the person! Damn these freedom haters!!:D

Have a REAL one!:thumbsup:

[Great Spirit]

Hell no! Why not bend over your lady in front of a plane full of adults and KIDS? THEN when caught........threaten the person! Damn these freedom haters!!:D

Have a REAL one!:thumbsup:Read the article. They did not actually have sex. A fine is the most they should have ever gotten for this "crime".

What the hell was he going to do by saying "there would be consequences"? Can't prove that this would lead to violence.

Now say for example if I saw 2 gay people kissing and told them to stop because it offends my Christian beliefs, than I would be labeled as a bigot.

[Psycho4Bud]

Read the article. They did not actually have sex. A fine is the most they should have ever gotten for this "crime".

O.K. Clinton.......sex is only an exchange of fluids right.

What the hell was he going to do by saying "there would be consequences"? Can't prove that this would lead to violence.

Making a threat is a crime........it's esculated under certain circumstance. Like being 20,000 ft. in the air I suppose.

Now say for example if I saw 2 gay people kissing and told them to stop because it offends my Christian beliefs, than I would be labeled as a bigot.

I thought Ustuffa Mohamad was turning Islam? Ya know, Iran don't have much time for Christians..........LOL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[graymatter]

When I was a kid I tried to have sex on a bus. It was impossible, on a number of levels. I suspect the guy is guilty of extreme frustration, which should be tried under the various stupidity statutes...

[Psycho4Bud]

When I was a kid I tried to have sex on a bus. It was impossible, on a number of levels. I suspect the guy is guilty of extreme frustration, which should be tried under the various stupidity statutes...

LOL....I broke in my first bus on a Junior Achievement trip. Not to much for privacy but hell....the rest of the seats were rockin' in the back.....why not?

Greyhound has them high top seats.......be ALOT easier! lol

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[birdgirl73]

I've got to spend more time on both buses and planes, clearly.