View Full Version : Complete Smoking Noob here. Looking for any and all help
JohnGalt
11-14-2006, 11:43 PM
Hey y'all. Like I said, I've never used weed before. However, I figured I'd try it. A friend of mine said I could get a quarter for about $30, but he'd have to check with his dealer to make sure he had the stuff. This is a good friend who wouldn't rip me off (so thats cool).
So I have several questions. Can y'all let me know of some general drug terminalogy (weed in particular). Also, can you let me know some of the different ways you can smoke it (Like do I HAVE to use cigarrete rolling paper for a joint, or can I just use a tobacco pipe, etc), and please go into detail if possible. Another question is how many grams do you use per one joint (or normal cigarrete rolling paper)
Also, if you have any random information you think I should know as I enter the world of marijuana, please feel free to share.
As a side note, I don't want to use any actual tobacco in anything if I can avoid it, because both of my parents were nicotine addicts, and I'd really rather not have to deal with that.
So thanks for any info :)
Also do any of you have a picture of how much a quarter should look like?
Nochowderforyou
11-14-2006, 11:54 PM
First rule of smoking: NO TOBACCO! :p It just doesn't belong in the same area as the sweet green.
A 1/4 (quarter) is 7g's, just so you know. Bag come in several diff. weights, but here is the rundown of the basic weights.
1/8 (eighth)=3.5grams
1/4=7g's
1/2 (ounce)=14g's
Full ounce=28g's
As for prices, they vary between every region and city, greatly vary.
You can smoke using rolling papers like Zig Zags, that cost $1 at any corner store for 100 papers, but you have to be of age to buy them of course. You can use a pipe, a bong, bubbler, steamroller, but bongs and pipes are most common. If you are curious about what they look like, check out the Pictures forum on this site and there are plenty of pictures showing them.
And yes, you can use a tobacco pipe, but for a clean smoke, glass is best. You can buy a basic glass spoon for $15-$50 at any headshop. So the choice is yours. You can make a homemade pipe easily. Just snoop around the forums a bit and you can get ideas.
Always look at the product before you buy. Ask friends or co-workers the typical prices for diff. qualitities of smoke. Cannabis comes in dried buds, don't EVER buy ground up cannabis, as other unknown cooking herbs can find its way into the bag. To see differet qualitites of cannabis, again, check out the Pictures forum.
Good luck.
Main thing to know: Lighter burns weed, weed gives off smoke, you inhale smoke, you get high. simple as that.
Now to make inhaling the smoke easier you can
a. put it in a pipe, bong, bubbler, etc...
b. roll it in a joint or blunt
c. vaporize the thc in a vaporizer (we will get to this when you get more experienced)
You can also eat marijuana by extracting the thc with some sort of fatty oily substance, like butter or organic peanutbutter (there is more but i dont know much about making weed foods)
some things you might want to know:
-tobacco pipe can be used for weed
-1 gram of good weed can get 3-4 people pretty high
-1/8 = 3.5 grams
-1/4 or "quad" = 7grams
-1/2 or Half O = 14 grams
-1 ounce = 28 grams
thats some of the main things you should know, i will post more some other time.
edit: damn, nochowderforyou beat me :(
Willard_420
11-14-2006, 11:58 PM
First of all, welcome to Cannabis.com! Second of all, welcome to the world of Mary Jane!
Marijuana has quite a few nicknames, it takes some getting used to all the lingo, and the lingo changes wherever you are. You might hear things like blazing, toking, hell some people even call it burning.
As for joints, I've had bad use with cigarette paper, just use joint paper. Also, don't use cigarette filters for the roach of the joint, that filters out THC (which is basically the crystals on the weed that's getting you fucked). It's about 2 bucks for a pack of 50 papes. The ammount of weed to use in a joint is up to you! For myself, I tend to put about 1 gram or more in my joints, you may prefer more or less.
Watch yourself for sketchy dealers, if you're worried about parents or anything, go to the store and grab yourself some Clear Eyes or Visine which is eye spray to clear red eyes. Body spray and hand sanatizer can be useful as well to get rid of the smell.
Prices also varry depending on where you live. Usually 10 bucks a gram unless you're looking for the nice bud. All prices change, there's a website (that I can't find right now, hopefully someone else posts it) that'll tell you how much it costs on average in your area.
You can use a tobacco pipe if you want, it might be kind of harsh. There's PLENTLY of ways to smoke up... Bongs, joints, blunt, pipes, spoons, bubblers, gravity bongs, and vaporizers is a start. There's tutorials all over these forums to learn how to roll, it's fairly simple once you get the hang of it!
Anyway, welcome to the green team, current ammount of members: 3 billion :rasta:
JohnGalt
11-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Aesome replies so far guys, thank you. Another question, the roach is just w/e you use to keep from inhaling the weed right? I've seen people use just pieces of bent up paper (So that it looks like a spring \/\/\ ) and put it in the end. I've also seen people bend the end of it so that it looks kind of like =-====== so that there is just a little hole you can see through. Can anyone verify this kind of thing?
Also, you said don't buy ground cannabis and only get it in buds? What exactly would I have to do to it to smoke it if I got it in buds (and what do they look like compared to ground)?
IllusionalFate
11-15-2006, 12:36 AM
You can see what buds look like in the Cannabis Pictures section, there's plenty of pics there, and most are of unground cannabis.
When you get the buds, you should break them up into small pieces (you may want to get a grinder to make it easier), then pack them into the bowl. Depending on how your going to consume the cannabis, you may have to break it up to different sized pieces:
1) If your going to cook with it, it needs to be very fine, almost a powder.
2) bong/pipe/bubbler; to the size of small pebbles
3) joints/blunts; about twice as fine as bongs/pipes, but it doesn't need to be as fine as when cooking, just grind it up real good.
Also, remove all stems, seeds, and as many leaves as possible from the bud before you grind/pack it. The bud is the only THC-rich part of the plant and the other parts will just taste bad and contain more tar.
Edit: My avatar is a great reference to use to see what unground buds look like.
TurnyBright
11-15-2006, 12:42 AM
the roach is just the end of the joint. some people put a filter in like you showed, some people just close off the end altogether, it's not really that important, just make it so when you inhale, no weed gets sucked into your mouth
Pshamous
11-15-2006, 12:44 AM
ok a roach is there one so the joint doesnt dissolve in you mouth and two to not inhale the weed like you said you use a bud grinder to grind up the bud or if you dont have a grinder just use some sheers to cut her up. And DONT SMOKE THE STEMS OR SEEDS!!! very important if you smoke the seeds which are the little seeds in the bud (duh) if fucking reaks havok on you lungs and the stems are the woody bits in the ground up. have fun and here are some links to show how to make bongs and stuff.
http://www.smokingwithstyle.com/waterpipe.htm
but make sure to make the inside of the pen insulated with tin foil because if the pen melts the gases are hella toxic...you know what maybe you should just stick with the tobacco pipe just to be safe. haha.
statechamp3
11-15-2006, 03:06 AM
[quote=Pshamous]ok a roach is there one so the joint doesnt dissolve in you mouth and two to not inhale the weed like you said you use a bud grinder to grind up the bud or if you dont have a grinder just use some sheers to cut her up.
wtf a roach is there so the joint doesnt dissolve in your mouth? try again
slipknotpsycho
11-15-2006, 03:24 AM
Hey y'all. Like I said, I've never used weed before. However, I figured I'd try it. A friend of mine said I could get a quarter for about $30, but he'd have to check with his dealer to make sure he had the stuff. This is a good friend who wouldn't rip me off (so thats cool).
So I have several questions. Can y'all let me know of some general drug terminalogy (weed in particular). Also, can you let me know some of the different ways you can smoke it (Like do I HAVE to use cigarrete rolling paper for a joint, or can I just use a tobacco pipe, etc), and please go into detail if possible. Another question is how many grams do you use per one joint (or normal cigarrete rolling paper)
Also, if you have any random information you think I should know as I enter the world of marijuana, please feel free to share.
As a side note, I don't want to use any actual tobacco in anything if I can avoid it, because both of my parents were nicotine addicts, and I'd really rather not have to deal with that.
So thanks for any info :)
Also do any of you have a picture of how much a quarter should look like?
dude there's so much to learn about marijauna and the culture... it's just shit you have to pick up over the years, and things change, and often... so we may tell you something, and 3 months from now, no one may even be using that terminology...
sorry to say it, but mostly everything is things you ahve to learn from experience, i can tell you this, if you're getting a 1/4 for 30, it's more than likely schwagg, but even that's steep, i pay 20 for a 1/4 which is schwagg prices, but usually the bud is mids, so at best you'd hope to get mids. which isn't bad... either way welcome to the wonderful world we all share... don't be afraid to be a 'noob' we all were at some point... i've been in this culture for 8 years now, still dont' know even half of what there is to know, mostly what i'm missing in knowledge tho ties to growing... but wtihin the next couple of years, i bet i make up on that side big time, i plan on starting my first 'real' grow soon (my first actual grow, was just me throwing some seeds in some soil and growing under a single flourescent light)
Pshamous
11-15-2006, 10:54 PM
dude nevermind about the dissolveing thing completely fucked up when i made that comment but all the other shit is good :)
Zoosh
11-15-2006, 11:19 PM
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/trousers/466/JH/#
This will help you on your first roll chum.
The Trickster
11-15-2006, 11:58 PM
smokingwithstyle.com
Thats a good website to read up on before you start smoking, tell you how to roll a joint, a blunt, how to make pipes, the like. I recommend making or using a pipe for your first few times smoking, until you get high. Rolling joints takes quite a bit of practice. Also, some people dont get high they're first time, It might take a few tries, so even if it doesnt work, keep trying! No one is immune to cannabis. And be a little bit careful, dont over do it, some people have bad or difficult experiences they're first time with cannabis if they use too much. Also, dont try cooking with it until youve smoked it several times, it can be a much more intense experience.
I dont know if youve ever smoked anything before, but make sure you inhale. You should be able to take a drag/hit off of your bowl/joint and be able to open your mouth without any smoke escaping. When I smoke, I suck the smoke into my mouth, then open my mouth a bit and inhale heavily, then exhale after several seconds.
30 dollar a quarter is a good price, even if it schwag. Schwag is good enough for a first few times smokin.
General terms for marijuana in general : Bud, Green, Ganja, Marijuana
High Quality marijuana : Chronic, kb, kind bud, kine bud, fire
Mid Quality : Middies, mid's
Low Quality : Schwag, dirt
Sensimellia : Seedless marijuana
Bud's : The flowers of the hemp plant, grow only on females. Are the part of the plant that gets you high.
Shake: Ground up marijuana.
Bowl: Has a lot of meanings, in the sentance "Pack another bowl man!" A bowl is the part of a pipe or bong that hold the marijuana. A bowl can also be a marijuana pipe.
Bong: Water pipe used to smoke marijuana
:D Hope that helped you man, welcome to the sweet world of mary jane.
statechamp3
11-16-2006, 01:00 AM
dont buy shake... just sayin
JohnGalt
11-16-2006, 01:27 AM
I had another question. Should what I buy really suck, I was thinking about making hash oil using splifted's guide (I'll have all of the stuff if I finally get the weed). Any opinions?
Also, is it possible I could just put the oil on a knife blade or spoon, keep a lighter going, and just act like a crackhead for a few minutes?
MaryjaneAndHashley
11-16-2006, 03:21 AM
wanna get into making hash oil for your first time??
aww i'd rather just try and smoke it at least once
and its more simple lol
slpntrx5
11-16-2006, 04:21 AM
here's how to make your basic homemade pipe:
1. take a 2-3 inch square of tin foil and a bic pen
2. wrap the foil around your finger and then slide it down until there's about 1/2 to 1 inch of foil still around your finger
3. take the bic apart and take out the skinny ink cartridge
4. push the cartridge into the foil "tube" until you can feel it against your finger
5. squish the foil down around the cartridge
the end result should look like this:
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6. fill the larger part with your herb, and, keeping the pipe upright (so you dont spill your jane), smoke it up! lol
and if you're worried about smell, a shirt change, some axe and a little mouthwash should take care of most of it
memoryburner
11-16-2006, 05:20 AM
Just do what I did my first time. Can pipe. Heres some instructions.
The Amazing Can-Pipe
Materials:Empty can, Weed, Lighter, Knife, finger, mouth
Instructions: 1. Remove tab from can. 2. Compress one side of can. 3. use knife to make a decent sized hole in the side, near the indentation. 4. poke small holes into indentation...not too many though. 5. Place weed over holes. 6. put finger on hole in the side. 7. put mouth on drinking hole. 8.spark lighter and hold flame on weed. 9. inhale. 10. remove finger from hole. 11. exhale. 12. repeat steps 5-11.
AlwaysBlazed
11-16-2006, 05:27 AM
Just do what I did my first time. Can pipe. Heres some instructions.
The Amazing Can-Pipe
Materials:Empty can, Weed, Lighter, Knife, finger, mouth
Instructions: 1. Remove tab from can. 2. Compress one side of can. 3. use knife to make a decent sized hole in the side, near the indentation. 4. poke small holes into indentation...not too many though. 5. Place weed over holes. 6. put finger on hole in the side. 7. put mouth on drinking hole. 8.spark lighter and hold flame on weed. 9. inhale. 10. remove finger from hole. 11. exhale. 12. repeat steps 5-11.
Oh god please no, not even worth getting high anymore. Back in camp when I had no papes and none of the counselours let us borrow their pieces (sadly we couldnt bring our own since it was hard enough just hiding weed) we would use a can. I smoked almost every night and I hates it. I have to admit though, it got me ripped :thumbsup:
Greenhit
11-16-2006, 05:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAdN2SARFI
Simple video to make a waterfall bong.
memoryburner
11-16-2006, 07:06 AM
I know. I hate using a can. But I have a piece now and I would only use a can as a last resort. But before i had a piece, all I could use were cans
Samm8898
11-16-2006, 07:24 AM
:rasta: If its your first time too, idk bout other people but it happened to me and my friends. The first time i smoked bud, 4 years ago, still rember the day, we smoked and i felt a buz well determined to get baked the next night i bought a bag(an 8th) and smoked it all. NOt nowing the powerfull affects of marijuana and not getting high the first time i was not prepared for it and freaked out. So if your first bowl doesnt get u high, wiat an hour let that bowl sink and and proceed to smoke more bowls and become extremly high
Splifted
11-16-2006, 04:09 PM
I had another question. Should what I buy really suck, I was thinking about making hash oil using splifted's guide (I'll have all of the stuff if I finally get the weed). Any opinions?
Also, is it possible I could just put the oil on a knife blade or spoon, keep a lighter going, and just act like a crackhead for a few minutes?
Yeah, I'm sure you could. Just heat it from the bottom and use a straw to inhale the vapor. It can be smoked right off the foil, but that isn't reccomended, because foil is ewwww. Its not really "oil" so much as it is sticky goo, so its hard to move around once you make it, it tends to just want to stick to stuff. But you could just rub another bud in it and smoke that if all else fails. :thumbsup:
Ps: Even with shitty weed, this being your first time, you should look like this :stoned: If not, be careful with that hash oil, one hit even gets me high, and I smoke all day every day. Not saying don't try it, but be prepared to be trashed :dance:
Reefer Rogue
11-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Sounds like you're buying schwag or mids at best. Save up and buy some danky dank and smoke it in some glassy glass. =]
JohnGalt
11-17-2006, 01:52 AM
Tp splifted: Both :stoned: and :dance: is good :)
Also, aside from not exactly being sophisticated and slightly white trashy, what's wrong with a can pipe?
memoryburner
11-17-2006, 04:43 AM
You get less of a hit...and they kinda take away the taste.
JohnGalt
11-18-2006, 09:44 PM
Okay, so can pipes kind of suck eh?
Someone was asking if you could smoke lined paper, and it sounded like it was bad for you. However, what about plain printer paper? If not, I can prolly bum some rolling papers off of a friend, but since he's my connection to the dealer, I'm not sure if I want to pester him anymore.
Also, should the paper thing not be a good idea, anyone have an opinion on homemade waterfall bongs?
Frivolous248
11-18-2006, 10:13 PM
Okay, so can pipes kind of suck eh?
Someone was asking if you could smoke lined paper, and it sounded like it was bad for you. However, what about plain printer paper? If not, I can prolly bum some rolling papers off of a friend, but since he's my connection to the dealer, I'm not sure if I want to pester him anymore.
Also, should the paper thing not be a good idea, anyone have an opinion on homemade waterfall bongs?
Pipes do not suck.
PLEASE do not use anything other than rolling paper for joints. Theres SO many ways to smoke it, that its really pointless to use any paper other than rolling paper. Waterfall bongs rock, if you wanna make one, go for it. However I suggest making a normal gravity bong. You don't have to fill it up each time, much easier to deal with and works just as good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_bong that should give you a good idea how to make it and how it works.
I wouldn't bother making hash oil, hash, or anything. You are still new, and weed itself is perfectly fine for getting stoned.
Make sure you inhale right, if you use a gravity bucket this will make sure. Don't bother holding your hits any longer than 5 seconds.
Good luck and have fun! :rasta:
Splifted
11-18-2006, 10:49 PM
Okay, so can pipes kind of suck eh?
Someone was asking if you could smoke lined paper, and it sounded like it was bad for you. However, what about plain printer paper? If not, I can prolly bum some rolling papers off of a friend, but since he's my connection to the dealer, I'm not sure if I want to pester him anymore.
Also, should the paper thing not be a good idea, anyone have an opinion on homemade waterfall bongs?
Yeah, can pipes are bad. Smoking aluminum = teh no no! If you absolutely must make a pipe, make one out of an apple or something. Those were always my favorites. Or make a pipe using hardware. Use a socket as a bowl. If you have a deep socket, you can even use it as a straight up pipe.
Printer paper is bad as well. Much too thick. And it won't stick together. Just pick of a pack of papers from a gas station, they're like a dollar tops. If you can't roll a joint, you can roll one using a dollar bill as a rolling machine.
Dollar bill joint rolling:
Break your weed up and take out all stems and seeds. Holding your dollar bill so its longer up and down than wide ( like this || instead of =) put your weed all in the dollar bill. Pinch it in half around the weed, and roll the dollar up and down around the weed using your thumb and forefinger until you feel it kinda turn into a round cylinder. Don't squeeze it too tight though, or it won't hit at all.
After you get it rolled down, should only take a couple up down movements, roll the part of the dollar bill that is closest to you all the way down until you can see the weed. Put the joint paper in between the farthest part of the dollar bill and the weed, with the sticky side up facing you. Using your thumbs, roll the front part of the bill back up which should pull the joint paper down in and start to wrap it around the weed. Go ahead and lick the gummed part (lick it from the back of the paper, don't ever lick the gum directly cause you can lick it all off) then finish rolling the dollar bill up all the way. It should end up with a perfectly rolled joint. If there is any excess paper on either side, simply twist it closed and bite one end where you get a little hole and light the other end.
Easiest way to roll a joint, its kinda hard to do with your hands the first few times you try, and a dollar works just as good as one of those rolling machines.
If you got any questions about how exactly to do it, ask and I'll try and clear it up.
nephmo
11-20-2006, 09:20 PM
man i dont knw why you people think that pipes are bad your fucking crazy damn they are the shit but if you want something to smoke out of that is than the pipe get a hooka man youll be so blown that you wont be able to walk
pu ekot
11-21-2006, 04:16 AM
The easiest way, by far, is with a water bottle pipe. I have tried apples, sockets, cans, basically everything homemade, this is the easiest and best for beginners.
Whether aluminum foil is bad for you is a hot topic, but everyone can agree that smoking out of it ONCE will NOT have any adverse effects.
Take a water bottle, throw away the cap.
Rip off the label, melt/cut a hole where the label used to be for your mouth. Take a small piece of tin foil, press it into the top of the bottle so it forms a nice bowl, and around the edges, so it will stick well.
Poke little holes in the tin foil with a pin or toothpick
Break up the weed and put it in the foil bowl
Inhale and burn the weed ;)
In the illustration:
black=bottle
gray=smoke
yellow=foil
green=weed
Trust me this is the best way for newbies.
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