2nd grow: ITS A GIRL!

[peace plz]

Well, my last grow ended up in a male, so this time i planted two seeds in order to better my chances of a girl.

And now after 18 days (i think) i now have a girl! I should mention that i am growing lowryders. And my other plant is looking to be a girl as well, but i need another day or two to be absolutely sure.

my grow:

2 seeds in 2 gallon pots. Fox farm Ocean Forest soil. CFLs. in my closet. Temps are consistently around 78-83F, humidity around 40-50%. I have a fan ocillating on the plants. lights are 18/6.

here are some pics.

pic 1: both plants in the closet
pic 2: plant 2-its the girl.
pic 3: plant 1-hopefully going to be a girl. i think i see some preflowers coming in lower on the plant. fingers are crossed
pic 4: top of plant 2-you can see the pistils really well in this one
pic 5: another pic of pistils

i will keep you all updated. i'll keep a log in this thread.

any and all advice, encouragement, etc is welcomed. i'd love it actually.

!!!!

[brookerosebud]

how old? be carful of heat probs...

love, brooke

[peace plz]

i think they are 18 days old. i dont have my calendar in front of me, but im pretty sure thats how old they are


and as far as heat problems, i think its under control. its usually around 80.

[LIP]

That's not optimum. 80 is ok if thats all you can do, but try to get it down to 70 - 75F.

Luckily LR cant hermie, so at least if it is a little on the warm side it wont turn them.

[peace plz]

Alright, I will try to get that temp down. This morning it's reading 78F. I turned my fan up one speed. And I was right, yesterday was day 18, so that makes today 19.

[peace plz]

Well, i just gave my girl her first dose of nutes. it is quarter strength pure blend pro bloom for soil. pH of the nuted water is 6.6...

I also turned up the speed on my fan and the temp is down to 77F already.

Im hoping my other plant shows definite signs of female soon. So far there are no balls, and its already been 19 days, so i am guessing its going to be a girl.

I also am germinating another seed right now that I will plant tomorrow. My plan is to do a staggered grow in which I will be harvesting every 3 weeks to a month. I plan on eventually having three plants going, each spaced 3 weeks apart, so that I can harvest one every three weeks and start a new one. this way I have a continuous supply of weed. This is the main reason why i chose lowryders, because i can do the different time lengths and not have to worry about having two separate chambers for veg and flower.

has anyone ever done this? should i watch out for anything? thanks for any tips.

also, is 6.6 ok for my pH? the regular water i have been giving it has been about 6.8. thanks


!!!!

[peace plz]

UH OH!!!

Bad news maybe...

so i was using a spray bottle and misting the top of the soil with 1/8th strength nutes (pure blend pro bloom soil). and i accidentally got a little bit on the tips of 2 leaves. immediately after i wiped it off, but in just an hour or so, where the leaves got the nuted water on them, they started to get yellowish dots all around.

i wouldnt think that getting just a little bit of the nutes on the leaves would cause this, especially an organically based product.

can anyone help with this? what should i do? is there anything i can do? i would post a pic, but its too faint to see in a picture.

thanks!

[Bree1978]

check this out: http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/97.htm

Quote: "Nutrient Solution Burn:
There's a good chance that this leaf was subjected to nutrient solution burn. These symptoms are seen when the EC concentration of hydroponic solutions is too high. These symptoms also appear when strong nutrient solution is splashed onto the leaves under hot HID lamps, causing the leaves to burn under the solution."...." Back off the concentration of the nutrient solution just a touch, and the problem should disappear. Note that if the plants never get any worse than this leaf (figure 3), then the plants are probably just fine" End Quote.
I'm new so I hope that helps! S

[peace plz]

Bree-

Thanks. I have that site bookmarked but didnt even think to look there.

the only thing i cant figure out is how it all happened in under an hour. and it only happened at the last half inch on two leaves. those were the two leaves that got a little bit of the nuted water on it, and then i immediately (within a minute) wiped it off with a kleenex. i didnt think there was any water residue still on the leave.

anyone else know what could have happened and if it's going to effect my plant much? like i said, its only on those two leaves, and only on the tip of them.

thanks

[c of green]

as said by the garden known 76-78 is the perfect temp due to the fact that photosenthesis(way off on spelling i think)occurs best at those temps.


p.s. have you smoked lowryder before?i am typicallt high off 2 hits and stoned off 3 or 4(off of what i grow)and was wondering how much it takes to get high off lowryder.if it is at least almost at dank levels i may have to give it a try

[peace plz]

no i havent smoked lowryder before. there are varying opinions on it, but im in the same boat. i can get stoned off just a few hits, so whatever. im not really too concerned with having the absolute most potent shit ever. im sure all will be fine with this smoke.

[c of green]

well,it takes two or three hits of dank for me that is why i was trying to compare it to lowryder.i suppose even if it is more mids then it would still be nice to have a harvest in july(outdoors).:stoned: mids are better than nothing huh?i do tend to be a pot "snob"but if i grow it then mids are cool i guess:D




anyone that has smoked lowryder let me know how good it is please?
rate potency 1-10
thanks

(sorry to ask my own questions on your thread but figured you would like the info too)

[peace plz]

haha, its cool man. yeah i'd like to know how it smokes too.

but i really would like to know whats up with those two leaves. anyone have any insite?

[c of green]

forget about the 2 leaves.if it happened to the 2 leaves you got wet and no others then you just burnt your leaves a little....no biggie......now if it keeps happening to leaves that you didnt get wet then you should start worrying a little.

[peace plz]

Alright. Yeah I guess that makes sense.

I will check when I get home from work in an hour and a half to see how its doing. Hopefully nothing else bad has happened. This was my first time at giving them nutes, so i hope i didnt screw it up.

[peace plz]

Alright, so im back at home and nothing new has really happened. No more of the "burn" or whatever it was. Its still on those two leaves, but no other ones. Still confused as to why it would happen like that so fast.

Also, my girl is still a little droopy. Its been like that for about a week now, ever since i transplanted it into a bigger pot. It doesnt look like shes getting much outward growth. everything is very compact on this plant, unlike how my other plant is, where the stems of the leaves are a little longer and the overall plant is wider. I still cant figure out why it is droopy. I thought it was overwatering, but even after letting it dry out and then watering it again, it still remains droopy.

on a brighter note...i am about 99% sure that i can see a couple white hairs coming out of my other plant. YAYAYAYAYAY!!!!! im so happy to have two girls. now i just need to keep them alive for the duration of the grow.

ok now on to a new question:

i know that lowryders stay small. and i know that there are several phenotypes meaning you can get a super short one, an avg size LR, or a larger than avg one...but i was wondering if there was anything i could do to get these a little taller. my theory is that the taller the plant, the bigger the buds...i could be wrong on this though.

so i was wondering if maybe i moved the lights a little bit further away from the light then the plants might stretch a little bit, creating more space for the buds to grow. because as it stands now, the space between the nodes is very small.

so can anyone tell me if either a) the current space between the nodes will grow on its own or b) my idea to let the plants stretch a little bit might work?

sorry for the long post. im long winded and its hard for me to keep things short.

thanks!

[c of green]

don't puposely stretch your plants!height doesnt really effect yeild....nodes do.a plant with 10 node will be close to the same weight no matter how tall it is.and the tighter the nodes the denser the buds.dense bud looks so much better than airy ones.IMO.kepp the light close and keep the girls as tight as possible and you will be rewarded with buds that you can throw through a window.


p.s.:D don't really throw your buds through a window:D unless it is mine and the window is open:thumbsup:

[Abattoir Dream]

i purposefully stretch my plants often, every 4 nodes, that way when its budding you have a space between buds where you can tie them down, if you dont you run the risk of screwing up buds, and like you say, you get the same amount of weed....

[peace plz]

Quick update:

Problem on the 2 leaves is still there. but it hasnt spread.

and on that same plant, i have now 100% determined that its a girl! TWO GIRLS YAYAYAYAYAYAY


im really excited now.

also, the other plant that i said was a little droopy, well over night it started to pick back up...i wonder if plants just sometimes get droopy as the day goes on. like around the 15th or 16th hour of light, maybe it just gets a little tired and droops? anyone know if this is the case? and then over night it rejuivinates itself? let me know.

[Abattoir Dream]

no, plants dont usually do that, only at night, if it was just the leaves drooping it was over-watered, but if it was the stem drooping, you might want to look into it further, good luck man!

[stinkyattic]

also, the other plant that i said was a little droopy, well over night it started to pick back up...i wonder if plants just sometimes get droopy as the day goes on. like around the 15th or 16th hour of light, maybe it just gets a little tired and droops? anyone know if this is the case? and then over night it rejuivinates itself? let me know.
I'm going to take a stab at this one...
You've got roots and leaves obviously, durr.
Well, water comes in the roots and evaporates off the leaves.
Lets say that your temps are pretty high, and the rate of evaporation is also high as a result.
During the hot time, the plant is losing water faster than it can take in more from the roots.
At night, evaporation slows, and the plant can replenish its water supply.
But if you have a problem with the roots or their ability to take up water, that's no good.
So to fix the problem, which I can bet is stressing the plant, make sure you don't have a problem like rootrot, or being pot-bound. Keep your temps reasonable. Make sure the little girlies have enough to drink without being to soggy. And I like to use Silica Blast, it strengthens cell walls and makes plants more able to fight the droop. Another thing you can try is a product called Wilt-Pruf. I use it for cloning, because you've got the same issue there like no roots at all! :D

[peace plz]

stinkyattic...wow thanks so much for that info...

heres a little background...i transplanted it about 10 days ago. and ever since then its had the wilting problem. i was really careful as to not damage any roots while doing this. i also did it in a relatively dark place so as to not let any light get to the roots.

im pretty sure its not root bound, but i dont know how to tell if i have rootrot. the roots were all white when i transplanted.

does this help you any more in figuring out whats going on? hopefully so...

if it does, what do you think i can do? i reallllllllly dont want to lose my girl. thanks for all your help. you are amazing.

[stinkyattic]

Just keep your temps in the 70s... it will get over its transplant shock soon enough... SuperThrive or any other product with B12 will help it recover faster.

[peace plz]

Alright so i gave both girls a real good watering last night. And this morning i wake up to both of them looking beautiful. very perky. looks like the girls really took well to the nutes. next watering im going to give them just regular water.

also, i was thinking of giving them a little molasses. do you think that would be safe to do at this point? they are now three weeks old today. how much molasses should i use?

and one other final question...is it best to water right as the lights come on...or closer to when they are about to shut off? ive never known.

thanks.

oh and i planted another seed last night too. hopefully it will sprout by saturday.

[peace plz]

Bump...

Tomorrow i will probably water my girls again.

Should i do it in the morning when the light first goes on, or should i do it closer to when the light goes off?

As a little update...the girls just look great. i only wish they would grow bigger. i guess thats the trouble with lowryders. oh well.

[stinkyattic]

i purposefully stretch my plants often, every 4 nodes, that way when its budding you have a space between buds where you can tie them down,...
This is a good point. I purposely stretch my mothers so I have more stem to work with while cloning too.

[peace plz]

so it wouldnt be bad for me to purposely stretch these girls? just for like, a couple days.

also...do you know anything about when i should water?

[c of green]

he is talking about stretching the plants to increase yeild though not for lst or cutting(which both make great sense)and that is why i said that he shouldn't.all he will end up with is the same weight and airy buds.(if stretching would increase yeild then why does everyone try to get the closest nodes possible?)
:twocents:

[Abattoir Dream]

he is talking about stretching the plants to increase yeild though not for lst or cutting(which both make great sense)and that is why i said that he shouldn't.all he will end up with is the same weight and airy buds.(if stretching would increase yeild then why does everyone try to get the closest nodes possible?)


first off, there is nothing wrong with 'airy' buds, if anything they are better than dense buds as air circulation is improved, however, stretching alone will not increase yeild, when a plant stretches for light, it puts all its growth into the stem, in which case the buds will slow growth, basically decreasing yeild slightly, unless you are going to use the stretched section of the stem for LST its not really worth doing, especially if your plant is already flowering, it wont want to grow upwards. if you want my opinion, dont bother stretching, just keep in mind that this method can be used in your next grow, where you can stretch during vegging and use the stretched section to help tie it down. I hope this helped, and im glad you are showing an interest intrying to increse yeild, after all, its gotta be worth looking into.... good luck m8! :)

[Abattoir Dream]

This is a good point. I purposely stretch my mothers so I have more stem to work with while cloning too.

lol stinky knows where its at ;)

[peace plz]

Hey guys...thanks for all the help. I ended up not really stretching my girls, but i did move them just a little further away from the light. My taller girl was getting really close to the lights, so i moved them down. now my shorter one is further from the light, but not too bad. maybe 2.5 inches at most.


i still havent figured out if watering in the morning or towards night time is better.

by the way...the third seed that i planted the other day. it is starting to pop. should be completely out by the end of the day.

[peace plz]

Hey all, quick update. Im kinda stoned so this may not make total sense and it will be brief as i cannot concentrate on things very long.

Anyways, i watered all plants this morning.

Girl 1 & 2 (24 days old) got quater strength pure blend pro bloom nutrients.

Seedling 1 (2 days old) just got regular water.

They are all looking great today. im pretty excited about what is unfolding before me. all the buds. cant wait until i can harvest.

and here are some pics of my two girls. im not exactly sure what all is included. and they may be a little blurry because i took them as i was stoned. but i hope you all enjoy none the less.


and how do you think my buds are looking?

do you think i could be doing anything better to improve anything?

im thinking of starting to give them molasses, but first i have to find some that i think will work good. i will look this afternoon when i go grocery shopping.

anyways, enjoy the pics.



EDIT: in pic 2, those 2 white things are pieces of paper towel placed there so those leaves dont touch the soil. They are the leaves with the damage on them from the nuted water, so i am making sure they dont touch it again.

[merrimanmerlin]

how do you make the plant stretch? Move it closer to the light? I've never read up on this, a but am quite interested, especially with it's use fo LST'ing

[busteruk7]

them plants are looking sweeeeeeeet m8 keep it up
and it should payoff nicely
try to get some superthrive this is a little extra that will give you some pretty nice results
merrimanmerlin in order for you to stretch your plant you would move ya light further away from the plant and maybe change the spectrum of the light
cheers all :)

[peace plz]

buster...

hey thanks for the encouragement.

about superthrive...i thought it can (should) only be used during the veg. stage. and i am now in flowering. i suppose i could use it on my little baby seedling, but since the seedling/veg stage is so short (no more than 3 weeks) would i really benifit from using it? i guess i could give it a try maybe.

my girls are loving the drink and food they got today. totally flourishing.

[peace plz]

Bump.

A little update.

Watered my girls today. They are still looking great. The buds are forming nicely. I will have pictures in the next day or two.

Keep the help coming.

[doco]

Hey PP, the LR are looking great! Thats going to be one solid nug along the whole stem! I wonder if anyone has tried topping LR? They go to flower so fast, not sure you even could.

I've heard many great things about using molasses during flowering...what did you end up doing with that idea? I think BlueBear and Stinkyattic both are big proponents of it.

Anyway, nice grow, Ill keep an eyeball on it.

[peace plz]

hey doco! thanks for the compliments.

as far as topping LR...im pretty sure you arent able to do that. Since it flowers so early on, topping wouldnt work i guess.

and about molasses...i havent made it to the store, but i expect to get some this weekend. definitely before their next feeding. but for the last feeding i just did, i added a little bit of honey that is 100% organic straight from the comb. i think that might be ok. anyone know?

i will have pics soon. i just need to quit being lazy and snap some.

[peace plz]

Well, here's a little update:

I have pictures coming. I just need to charge my battery on my camera before i can put them on the computer. but...

the two girls are looking AMAZING. i watered them last night with molasses mixed into their regular nuted water. and this morning i awoke to see much fatter buds. or so it appears.

i got the temps down to a consistant 78°F, and the humidity varies from about 40-50%.

once my paycheck goes through this coming week, i am going to be putting in a couple more lights. i think if i increase the wattage by getting two new 42W CFLs, i should see a good increase in buds and growth and stuff. hopefully it will just increase my yield a lot more. i will just have to deal with cooling the place more. i might need to get another little fan. we'll see.

my little tiny seedling is still growing, although rather slowly. kind of strange. i think its at day 7 and is just now getting its second set of true leaves. oh well. it will start growing quicker soon.

ok, pictures will be up later today.

let me know what you all think. and if you have any suggestions to get bigger buds.

[lowryderulez]

hey peace, your lowryders are lookin awesome congrats on getting girls this time round! I'm growing one LR atm but sure as hell aint as healthy lookin as your ones lol, keep it up m8, look forward to seeing some dense bud on your plants ;)