tomatoes???

[juicy james]

so we're sitting here high as shit and all of a sudden i got to thinking about one of lifes most unsolvable mysteries.........whats the deal with tomatoes???

fruit??

vegetable???

berry?????

nobody knows, and what does that make ketchup??:confused: :confused:

[TallulahGreen]

Tomatoes are a fruit...

[juicy james]

interesting........but how can we be sure??? dun dun dunnnnnnn!!!

[Garden Knowm]

ummmmmmm green.... ummm... yeah... yes.. defintley.. yes.. you ARE...

iloveyou

[DannyMan]

i was in a play in middle school featuring a group of happy fruits and vegetables friends hanging out, leaving the tomato out of both groups. she was sad and decided to find out about her true nature. the great fairy told her the ultimate truth. "You are a fruit" she says.

Tomatoes are a fruit. Just like potatoes.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but the supreme court (I'm not kidding) ruled that they are a vegetable because vegetables are eaten with dinner, and fruits are dessert.

[daima]

Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but the supreme court (I'm not kidding) ruled that they are a vegetable because vegetables are eaten with dinner, and fruits are dessert.

my hopes are that we pay these poor souls enough money to make such life altering decisions:D
dai*ma:stoned:

[4gan2ja0]

definition of tomato: http://webster.com/dictionary/tomato
definition of fruit: http://webster.com/dictionary/fruit
definition of vegetable: http://webster.com/dictionary/vegetable

and why would you think its a berry?

[Skink]

We consider them as a veg cause we don't make tomato pies,or squeeze chocolate syrup on them... If you just look at a tomato and cut it open it looks like a fruit,to me anyways... the tomatoes I grow are sweet and nothing like the bland crap we buy in the store...

[juicy james]

wow...i cant beleive i really started a thread about this.

my fault guys.

[Skink]

Your not allowed to renege...

[Black Water Park]

we used to always grow tomatoes in our back yard too, but our dog would always eat them! she was actually really cute, she was a huge dog, but would gently pull of the tomato, not damaging the plant at all. anyways, i hate tomatos...ketchup is damn good though

[Skink]

we used to always grow tomatoes in our back yard too, but our dog would always eat them! she was actually really cute, she was a huge dog, but would gently pull of the tomato, not damaging the plant at all. anyways, i hate tomatos...ketchup is damn good though

howbout spaghetti,pizza and tomato soup??? I make all three from my tomatoes

[TallulahGreen]

I fucking love tomatoes. Just give me a basket of some OG tomatoes and ill eat them all.
Cherry Tomatoes, Grape Tomatoes, Pear Tomatoes...ALL TOMATOES...IM A TOMATO EATEN FREAK!
Ill eat them like fuckin' apples!
SOOOO GOOD!!!!! My dog eats them too, RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING VINE! She does the same things with our rasberries, blackberries, and blueberries...and our borage and pioneer lettuce! Shes a freak I tell ya! Just mows on that shit. Were like, where the fuck are all the blueberries?

[benagain]

'Maters are good eats. Good with damn near everything. One of the few foods, I'll eat raw with some salt.

[potsmokingnome]

Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but the supreme court (I'm not kidding) ruled that they are a vegetable because vegetables are eaten with dinner, and fruits are dessert.

Thats the logic of the supreme court?? and wtf is the supreme court deciding on the classification of tomatoes anyway??? lol

[Skink]

Tomatoes are technically a fruit, but the supreme court (I'm not kidding) ruled that they are a vegetable because vegetables are eaten with dinner, and fruits are dessert.



Thats the logic of the supreme court?? and wtf is the supreme court deciding on the classification of tomatoes anyway??? lol

I missed that little diddy on the supreme court,,, yeah like they know???

[officerleeroy]

Tomaters are good for your balls guys...:thumbsup:

[potsmokingnome]

Tomaters are good for your balls guys...:thumbsup:

Yes Tomatoes are god for men, it helps reduce the risk of prostate cancer :)

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Thats the logic of the supreme court?? and wtf is the supreme court deciding on the classification of tomatoes anyway??? lol


In 1893 Jon Nix et al were fruit importers (or so they thought). They sued New York customs collector Edward Hedden to recover duties "paid under protest" on the import of tomatoes from the West Indies. At the time, vegetables required a 10 percent tariff. Fruits were imported duty-free. In other words Nix said tomatoes were fruit (no duty) and Hedden said they're vegetables (pay me big boy)!

So, they went to court, the Supreme Court. After arguments were presented Justice Gray ruled that because tomatoes where known as and used as vegetables, that's what they were...vegetables! Nix got Nixed!

Here's the battle:

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U.S. Supreme Court
NIX v. HEDDEN, 149 U.S. 304 (1893)

149 U.S. 304

NIX et al.
v.
HEDDEN, Collector.
No. 137.

May 10, 1893

At law. Action by John Nix, John W. Nix, George W. Nix, and Frank W. Nix against Edward L. Hedden, collector of the port of New York, to recover back duties paid under protest. Judgment on verdict directed for defendant. 39 Fed. Rep. 109. Plaintiffs bring error. Affirmed.

Statement by Mr. Justice GRAY: This was an action brought February 4, 1887, against the collector of the port of New York to recover back duties paid under protest on tomatoes imported by the plaintiff from the West Indies in the spring of 1886, which the collector assessed under 'Schedule G.-Provisions,' of the tariff act of March 3, 1883, (chapter 121,) imposing a duty on 'vegetables in their natural state, or in salt or brine, not specially enumerated or provided for in this act, ten per centum ad valorem;' and which the plaintiffs contended came within the clause in the free list of the same act, 'Fruits, green, ripe, or dried, not specially enumerated or provided for in this act.' 22 Stat. 504, 519.

At the trial the plaintiff's counsel, after reading in evidence definitions of the words 'fruit' and 'vegetables' from Webster's Dictionary, Worcester's Dictionary, and the Imperial Dictionary, called two witnesses, who had been for 30 years in the business of selling fruit and vegetables, and asked them, after hearing these definitions, to say whether these words had 'any special meaning in trade or commerce, different from those read.'

One of the witnesses answered as follows: 'Well, it does not classify all things there, but they are correct as far as they go. It does not take all kinds of fruit or vegetables; it takes a portion of them. I think the words 'fruit' and 'vegetable' have the same meaning in trade to-day that they had on March 1, 1883. I understand that the term 'fruit' is applied in trade only to such plants or parts of plants as contain the seeds. There are more vegetables than those in the enumeration given in Webster's Dictionary under the term 'vegetable,' as 'cabbage, cauliflower, turnips, potatoes, peas, beans, and the like,' probably covered by the words 'and the like."

The other witness testified: 'I don't think the term 'fruit' or the term 'vegetables' had, in March, 1883, and prior thereto, any special meaning in trade and commerce in this country different from that which I have read here from the dictionaries.'

The plaintiff's counsel then read in evidence from the same dictionaries the definitions of the word 'tomato.' The defendant's counsel then read in evidence from Webster's Dictionary the definitions of the words 'pea,' 'egg plant,' 'cucumber,' 'squash,' and 'pepper.'

The plaintiff then read in evidence from Webster's and Worcester's dictionaries the definitions of 'potato,' 'turnip,' 'parsnip,' 'cauliflower,' 'cabbage,' 'carrot,' and 'bean.'

No other evidence was offered by either party. The court, upon the defendant's motion, directed a verdict for him, which was returned, and judgment rendered thereon. The plaintiffs duly excepted to the instruction, and sued out this writ of error.

Edwin B. Smith, for plaintiffs in error.



Justice GRAY, after stating the facts in the foregoing language, delivered the opinion of the court.

The single question in this case is whether tomatoes, considered as provisions, are to be classed as 'vegetables' or as 'fruit,' within the meaning of the tariff act of 1883.

The only witnesses called at the trial testified that neither 'vegetables' nor 'fruit' had any special meaning in trade or commerce different from that given in the dictionaries, and that they had the same meaning in trade to-day that they had in March, 1883.

The passages cited from the dictionaries define the word 'fruit' as the seed of plaints, or that part of plaints which contains the seed, and especially the juicy, pulpy products of certain plants, covering and containing the seed. These definitions have no tendency to show that tomatoes are 'fruit,' as distinguished from 'vegetables,' in common speech, or within the meaning of the tariff act.

There being no evidence that the words 'fruit' and 'vegetables' have acquired any special meaning in trade or commerce, they must receive their ordinary meaning. Of that meaning the court is bound to take judicial notice, as it does in regard to all words in our own tongue; and upon such a question dictionaries are admitted, not as evidence, but only as aids to the memory and understanding of the court.

Botanically speaking, tomatoes are the fruit of a vine, just as are cucumbers, squashes, beans, and peas. But in the common language of the people, whether sellers or consumers of provisions, all these are vegetables which are grown in kitchen gardens, and which, whether eaten cooked or raw, are, like potatoes, carrots, parsnips, turnips, beets, cauliflower, cabbage, celery, and lettuce, usually served at dinner in, with, or after the soup, fish, or meats which constitute the principal part of the repast, and not, like fruits generally, as dessert.

The attempt to class tomatoes as fruit is not unlike a recent attempt to class beans as seeds, of which Mr. Justice Bradley, speaking for this court, said: 'We do not see why they should be classified as seeds, any more than walnuts should be so classified. Both are seeds, in the language of botany or natural history, but not in commerce nor in common parlance. On the other hand in speaking generally of provisions, beans may well be included under the term 'vegetables.' As an article of food on our tables, whether baked or boiled, or forming the basis of soup, they are used as a vegetable, as well when ripe as when green. This is the principal use to which they are put. Beyond the common knowledge which we have on this subject, very little evidence is necessary, or can be produced.

Judgment affirmed.

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah we got aids and cancer killing people left and right and they're using energy, actual energy to decide whether or not a tomato is a fruit or vegetable.... i just find that ammusing.

[Professor Dan K.]

i consider tomatoes vegitables. they just dont fit what i would call a fruit. i dont like them either way so it doesnt really matter lol. only thing i like them in is salsa and chipotle haha

[Garden Knowm]

When grown hydroponicaly, a large tomato plant can easily consume more than 3 gallons of water a day.. WOW

iloveyou

[Cheery Cherry]

You say Toe-mah-toe, I say Toe-may-toe...

[tootsie roll]

so we're sitting here high as shit and all of a sudden i got to thinking about one of lifes most unsolvable mysteries.........whats the deal with tomatoes???

fruit??

vegetable???

berry?????

nobody knows, and what does that make ketchup??:confused: :confused:


The tomato is a fruit.

That makes ketchup a tangy fruit sauce I'd guess.

No matter what is ketchup will be ketchup and everybody will still use it.
Unless you're freaked out by it being a fruit. lol

[tootsie roll]

I fucking love tomatoes. Just give me a basket of some OG tomatoes and ill eat them all.
Cherry Tomatoes, Grape Tomatoes, Pear Tomatoes...ALL TOMATOES...IM A TOMATO EATEN FREAK!
Ill eat them like fuckin' apples!
SOOOO GOOD!!!!! My dog eats them too, RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING VINE! She does the same things with our rasberries, blackberries, and blueberries...and our borage and pioneer lettuce! Shes a freak I tell ya! Just mows on that shit. Were like, where the fuck are all the blueberries?

ROTFLMAO! You have a pupster like that too huh>
My gril just walks along and grazes on the berries or whatever she's in the mood for that day. lol
The boy, now, he grazes on the peapods.:abduct: :angelsmiley: