Puck Technologies "Number 1" synthetic

[Chrondike]

The more I read the more worried I get about being able to "clean up" in 20 days. I invested in a 100 dollar "5 day detox" program before I started reading things here and I doubt it will help at all... So, I started investigating synthetic alternatives.

Puck Technologies "Number 1" seems like a good kit - comes with 3 oz of synthetic, a belt to hold the pouch, tubing, and a heat pack that supposedly keeps the urine at 98-100 degrees. Does anyone have experience with this product that can speak to the quality of it?

I'm getting a Quest SAP 5-50/300 GC/MS test... assuming for some reason they actually do the GC/MS tests on it, will it still pass? I'm not sure how the whole thing works... but if I don't get this job I'll be losing out on many many thousands of dollars more than I make currently. Would be a big bummer.

Plus, if I'm going synthetic, I can start smoking again :rasta:

Let me know everything that you do! I need information!!

[Burnt Toast]

Any synthetic urine will pass a GC/MS test or SAP screen. In fact, synthetic urine is used as a baseline when the lab techs calibrate the GC/MS.

Just make sure that the synthetic is not expired or old. Otherwise the sample can be rejected as "non-human" because the constituent buffers (creatinine, PH, specific gravity) have dissipated to where readings are very low, or zero.

[BigNugs4U]

i read somewhere that quick fix 4.0 (synthetic) will not pass gc/ms. I could be mistaken, i suppose. but i doubt it.

[Burnt Toast]

You and your reading source are mistaken.

Any synthetic sample will pass any type of analysis for drugs because synthetic urine contains no drugs to test positive for (or at least its not supposed to).

[BigNugs4U]

oh, sorry, could have sworn somebody referenced that as coming from the QF people. I tried looking for it but have given up. Thats good to hear.:thumbsup:

[BigNugs4U]

And you are mistaken because not "ANY" synthetic sample will pass "ANY" test.
If the components of the synthetic sample are allowed to become broken down, it will no longer follow your "ANY" sample test. In addition, the synthetic samples can become cloudy if it is not stored properly. Try handing a sample of urine that is not transparent or rather "milky" in appearance, and guess what;
your synthetic sample will not pass "EVERY" test:p

[BigNugs4U]

and if the comps. break down, it will not pass the integrity tests.

[ghettoBlunt]

if its just one piss test you have to pass, might as well quit for 20 days and drink lots of cranberry juice and shit, if you fail the first time, make an excuse like it was a friends birthday and it came up, but you're not an avid smoker and you'll pass the next one once your system's clean...but man, that would be a bummer to miss out on a few grand because you're pee wasnt real and they spotted it...hmmm

[Burnt Toast]

And you are mistaken because not "ANY" synthetic sample will pass "ANY" test.
If the components of the synthetic sample are allowed to become broken down, it will no longer follow your "ANY" sample test. In addition, the synthetic samples can become cloudy if it is not stored properly. Try handing a sample of urine that is not transparent or rather "milky" in appearance, and guess what;
your synthetic sample will not pass "EVERY" test:p

and if the comps. break down, it will not pass the integrity tests.

No, YOU are mistaken entirely because you misunderstood what I said.

Re-read my quote. It plainly states
"Any synthetic sample will pass any type of analysis for DRUGS because synthetic urine contains no drugs to test positive for (or at least its not supposed to)."

Integrity tests and drug tests are two entirely different pairs of shoes. One tests for the presence of drugs, the other tests the integrity of the sample. Now is there anything else I can enlighten you with?

Thank you. Please drive through
:p :p

[BigNugs4U]

No, YOU are mistaken entirely because you misunderstood what I said.

Re-read my quote. It plainly states
"Any synthetic sample will pass any type of analysis for DRUGS because synthetic urine contains no drugs to test positive for (or at least its not supposed to)."

Integrity tests and drug tests are two entirely different pairs of shoes. One tests for the presence of drugs, the other tests the integrity of the sample. Now is there anything else I can enlighten you with?

Thank you. Please drive through
:p :p

Integrity tests are part of the drug screens/tests
Can you enlighten me as to what your drug screen / drug test / UA result will be if your sample does not pass the integrity test?

[BigNugs4U]

Integrity tests are part of the drug screens/tests
Can you enlighten me as to what your drug screen / drug test / UA result will be if your sample does not pass the integrity test?


I bet you you will not have passed your test
:thumbsup: :p :thumbsup: :p

[Burnt Toast]

Integrity tests are part of the drug screens/tests But they are still two different types of tests. And integ tests are not part of every U/A performed - there are some budget-minded employers who elect to have only a drug analysis performed, and forsake the integ checks entirely. All to save some bucks.


Can you enlighten me as to what your drug screen / drug test / UA result will be if your sample does not pass the integrity test?
:rolleyes: Duh, that would depend on what part(s) of the integ check that couldnt make the cut. If my pH levels were abnormal, that would be an "adulterated" result. If both my creatinine and SG levels were low, that would be a "diluted" result. If my creatinine reading was zero, and all other constituents have a reading (or all of the constituents read zero), that would be ruled "substituted specimen - not consistent with human urine"

Now if my employer was to play cheapskate for the moment and chose to pay for a drug analysis only (no integ check), anything from cloudy stale synthetic pee, to water with yellow food coloring would pass - because, one more time:

Devices used for drug analysis analyze for drugs only. Plain, sweet and simple.



Now is there anything else I shall enlighten you with?

[Chrondike]

Well back on the topic of MY drugtest.... =p

Turns out I got a second job offer - with a firm that doesn't drug test. I think i'll take the easy way out! Blunt inc.