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Hamlet

11-09-2006, 02:44 AM

You call what they do now days hunting? Sitting in a tree, covered with camoflage, using a high-powered rifle with a scope to blast a deer off a feeder? ..or maybe the canned hunts where they keep exotics on ranches and a guide takes some rich asshole out to shoot livestock out of a pasture?

There hasn't been any hunting in this country, nor a need to hunt in a long time. My father owned a ranch on the western slope of Colorado back in the day and fed our family all year on what he hunted. That was the closest thing I've seen to legitimate hunting in my lifetime.

Chips point was valid. Blasting a doe with a fawn just to get your rocks off is a depraved cruelty beneath contempt.

Frivolous248

11-09-2006, 02:44 AM

this dude hunts behind my family's house, he shot a doe and was bragging about him watching the doe's offspring run after her before she died...
people r disgusting, not that its a good idea but i think i should slash his tires(he parks in front of our house) sry for bitching just need to vent

Why the fuck does he hunt behind your house? And why the fuck does he park in front of your house? Call the cops...

And yeah thats pretty sick. Hunting for fun is lame if you ask me, taking pleasure in killing other things...thats pretty fucked up when you really think about it. I eat meat though, so hunting for food is cool with me, animals eat other animals.

Its like how the Indians (I think) didn't like how the white man was wasteful when it came to hunting. Indians used every part of the animal.

getcrunk

11-09-2006, 02:55 AM

dude's prolly got a couple of bodies in his refrigerator you better watch out.

the image reaper

11-09-2006, 02:57 AM

I got so many friggin' deer in my yard, I can't go out my door without bumping into the bastards ... all they're good for is eating your plants, trampling your lawn, and crapping in your driveway ... oh yeah, we even have them attacking people in California now (deer CAN and WILL kill you, antlers are razor-sharp at certain times of the year) ... they are overgrown RATS ... seriously ... :mad: except for this one, with my young son ... :D

potsmokingnome

11-09-2006, 02:58 AM

The only hunting is Bow and arrow hunting, I know a few people who still do it. I'm not really keen on hunting but if you actually use everything you end up killing. Its no worse then feeding and fattening up live stock and slaughtering them when they are nice and plump! I could never kill a Mother deer, hell I don't think I could kill any animal.

Where I live, a guy had 3 grizzlly bears go on his property, 1 mother, and 2 cubs. when they got to his patio he peaked out of the window, and shot the 2 cubs first, and killed them, and then shot the mother bear , but she fled, and was never found! how fucked is that!! why the hell take it upon yourself tio shoot them??? and especially shooting the 2 cubs right in front of the mother, I'm suprised that mother bear didn't tear through his trailer and maul the fucker! people are so disrestectfull of wildlife, when you live close to wilderness you should respect the wild animals that were there first!!!

fikusroot

11-09-2006, 03:01 AM

I dont mind hunting, even with a gun. People have been hunting forever and as long as you eat what you kill and kill within certain limits, I say hunt all you want. I hate hippies who do nothing but bitch about how killing animals is like killing another human and shit like that. Animals kill each other all the time. It's the way of life. But yeah, that guy is a dick.

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:01 AM

haha hes my neighbors son-in-law so we know him and theres a decent patch of woods behind my house
unfortunatly my dad is a cop so i dont think ide get too far with that call

potsmokingnome

11-09-2006, 03:02 AM

^^ My cousin bow hunts. He got a turkey the other day. Oops I probably shouldn't have said that. Now there will be a "Save The Turkeys" thread...

save the turkey thread LOL Turkey's are ugly fuckers lol

MyMARYJANE

11-09-2006, 03:04 AM

that is one of the saddest things i've ever heard. sooo fked uppppp. i'd like to see someone shoot his mom and he can run after her while she dies. and innocent little deer not knowing whats going on, running after their mother. that makes me so upset and mad at that as$hole. DEF slash his tireds or key his car. im not a fan of hunting i think its wrong to hang deer heads on your wall. i guess if your gonna eat it its a little more reasonable, but i dont like the idea of hunting deer. bragging about the baby running after the mom is soooo messed up. yea people like to hunt and sht but dont brag about stuff like that

acrca

11-09-2006, 03:05 AM

when i was growing plant outdoors some fuckin deer came along and ate them whole.

ever since then ive been trying to kill every deer i can find. too bad i dont have a gun :(

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:11 AM

billionfold if u dont agree with me fine make your point and be done with it you dont need to keep coming back and making fun of stuff that upsets other people
sry man i guess not everyone can see the world like you

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:23 AM

i wasnt posting this to make people think like me or have my views
u made your point i responded i didnt say hey its pretty dumb what your thinking i gave my view and reasons for having that view

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:29 AM

tends to happen when im sticking up for myself

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 03:30 AM

I hunt, and I kill deer, and I love it! My son will soon be joining me on my hunting trips. He can hardly wait. People have been hunting for millions of years, and it won't stop. I kill, gut, skin, quarter, butcher, then eat. Death is a natural part of life, and so is hunting for food.

Laughing about the two fawns was a bit much, but they will be fine. Hunting season is in this time of year for a reason.

I have turkey, deer, big horn sheep, fish, and even a squirl mounted, all hanging nicely from a wall in my office.

What's cruel is breeding animals to butcher, and veal...thats just sad. There's nothing wrong with hunting, imo. Then again, I'm a bit of a redneck. Even so, I have more compasion than most vegans.

Leave the guy be, and if you feel the need to look down on him, then so be it. Just don't go thinking you're better just because you don't hunt. You simply have a heart for animals, and it WAS a fucked thing for him to laugh about those fawn running after their dying mother.

Much Love,

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:35 AM

i hear ya i didnt mean it to come off like i was better because i didnt hunt i relize it needs to be done or there will just be more animals suffering
just got upset by the guy braggin about it

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 03:41 AM

That's understandable, man. I wasn't bitching...just defending us hunters.

Much Love,

microwavechips

11-09-2006, 03:47 AM

yup its all good n sorry if i was bein a prick

MunchoMan

11-09-2006, 03:50 AM

straight outta bambie yo

SocksThaClown

11-09-2006, 04:34 AM

I don't see anything wrong with living out in the country and hunting for food, but if you hunt just for the fun of killing something,then that's kind of messed up.

DannyMan

11-09-2006, 04:38 AM

I feel that as long as someone isn't cheating to kill the deer, like using feeders, or using lights to blind them, then it's a fair kill. I mean, other animals hunt each other and probably feel really big and mighty afterwards. Isn't it only natural that we would feel the same?

huh.. gun vs animal = fair kill?

i think if the guy fought the doe with his barehands and killed it, then it would have been a FAIR kill.

It's not like he is shooting another person. He is shooting a damned deer. Deer are not cuddly little animals, they're troublesome and breed like rabbits. That is why there are hunting seasons for them. I would see your point if it was a dog, or another domestic animal, but there's really no point in feeling sorry for a flippin' hunk of venison.

Oh and of course. deers are troublesome and breed like rabbits. Us humans though, are not like that at all.

so what's the difference in killing either of those in the end?

DannyMan

11-09-2006, 04:50 AM

It's illegal to kill one. Plus, one is civilized and make decisions that impact the earth. Deers are animals. Their meat is food, and their skin is clothing. That is the difference.

Heheh, fair enough.

I know killing deers isn't a big deal at all; it is in fact a fucking sport. From what I understood the "dude" was just killing for fun. Maybe it wasn't the case, but that's why I got defensive about it.

Don't you have warm blood flowing in your veins? Don't you feel anything at all for other living beings on this planet? Without deers my man, things would be very different. I pay respect to everything this planet offers us, but that's just me.

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 05:07 AM

Don't you have warm blood flowing in your veins? Don't you feel anything at all for other living beings on this planet? Without deers my man, things would be very different. I pay respect to everything this planet offers us, but that's just me.

W/o hunters, the deer would overpopulate, strip thier food supply, and die of starvation. The sad truth is that hunters are needed for the ecosystem, and for the balance of life. W/o wolves, or man, deer have no natural enemy to keep them under control. They need us for the survival of thier species.

Sorry to barge in like that, but it had to be said...

Much Love,

pabloescobar209

11-09-2006, 05:15 AM

It's not like he is shooting another person. He is shooting a damned deer. Deer are not cuddly little animals, they're troublesome and breed like rabbits. That is why there are hunting seasons for them. I would see your point if it was a dog, or another domestic animal, but there's really no point in feeling sorry for a flippin' hunk of venison.

Exactly, here in Pittsburgh and the outer suburbs the deer popluation is insane, they have no natural predators so like Billionfold said "They breed like rabbits" and come this time of year (rut) they are everywhere. Do you realize how many more people would be killed in fatal car crashes with dear if hunting was stopped. It's not like we are hunting deer into extinction, we can barley keep the population under control as it is.

Reefer Rogue

11-09-2006, 07:38 AM

"Thin out their numbers" :rolleyes:

Hamlet

11-09-2006, 11:36 AM

W/o hunters, the deer would overpopulate, strip thier food supply, and die of starvation. The sad truth is that hunters are needed for the ecosystem, and for the balance of life. W/o wolves, or man, deer have no natural enemy to keep them under control. They need us for the survival of thier species.

Sorry to barge in like that, but it had to be said...

While we're mentioning it probably should be noted that the 'balance of life' i.e. wolves, is out of whack because man has shot/trapped/poisoned them to near extinction. Devistated their habitat for the sake of urban sprawl, ski condos and clear cut forests.

Hunting is part of life..yes. But it's an almost sacred thing. What this asshole did wasn't hunting. He's the same kinda dipshit redneck who shoots up road signs, smashes mailboxes in the country, spraypaints 'bubba was here' on a canyon wall, and dumps his garbage off the bridge into the creek.

There's no excuse for cruelty to animals just for the power hard-on. In fact it's the first thing they look for in the psychographic profiles of serial killers and psychopaths.

GollyWog420

11-09-2006, 12:36 PM

Its fucked up hunting for fun that is quite sick, taking away something beautiful just to get a kick or feel big or whatever i think is weird.
if you hunt for food then of course thats okay, as you are doin what is natural,animals kill each other all the time.
We are animals aswell

dryst

11-09-2006, 01:27 PM

i dunno maybe its just me but when i go hunting...i wont shoot a doe..1) id feel kina shitty about it , whether its just a animal or not 2) usually if a does around she scouting ahead for the buck....

and him bragging about something like that i would grabbed his gun and shot his left ball off, now that soemthing to brag about :D

BobBong

11-09-2006, 01:39 PM

everyone's entitled to their opinion..

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1162939815307

Skrappie

11-09-2006, 01:41 PM

I'm not a fan of hunting anything I don't plan on eating, But just remember, if that deer thought you were tasty and had the means, You'd be fucked too.

dryst

11-09-2006, 01:46 PM

everyone's entitled to their opinion..

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1162939815307

u think the dude shot her on purpose?...he got charged with criminal negligence...

Skink

11-09-2006, 02:20 PM

it's illegal here to shoot a Dow,even in hunting season,.,,Why???

unfortunately we killed off the dears most natural enemy,,,the wolf... I am for controlled offing of dear to reduce the population,but I agree with the author here,,,his sadistic nature is wrong,his reasons are wrong,he's a turd...

friendowl

11-09-2006, 05:20 PM

i dont belive in killing ANIMALS for fun or sport
to eat i guess i can understand
but we got markets and shit
i figure most hunters just like the thrill of a kill and the hunt

in that case you guys should be police officers

Nochowderforyou

11-09-2006, 05:54 PM

this dude hunts behind my family's house, he shot a doe and was bragging about him watching the doe's offspring run after her before she died...
people r disgusting, not that its a good idea but i think i should slash his tires(he parks in front of our house) sry for bitching just need to vent

I know what you're saying. I don't like people who hunt for pleasure. It is sick, but for survival, I can understand.

My one buddy, his family are huge hunters. They all live in this small, hick town, hunting, drinking beer all day. He shoots animals just for fun. We went out there once and his uncle who was drunk as fuck, showed us this shot he took at a dder, and I mean, this was no small hole. There was a CD sized hole in the side of this deer, and the shot went in, and came back out. His inerds everywhere, and the fuckin guy was laughing about it! :mad:

BobBong

11-09-2006, 06:01 PM

u think the dude shot her on purpose?...he got charged with criminal negligence...

No, I simply think that hunting should be a "damn, i have no food and need to eat something" thing...

Guns + People = Bad Things.

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:12 PM

While we're mentioning it probably should be noted that the 'balance of life' i.e. wolves, is out of whack because man has shot/trapped/poisoned them to near extinction. Devistated their habitat for the sake of urban sprawl, ski condos and clear cut forests.

Hunting is part of life..yes. But it's an almost sacred thing. What this asshole did wasn't hunting. He's the same kinda dipshit redneck who shoots up road signs, smashes mailboxes in the country, spraypaints 'bubba was here' on a canyon wall, and dumps his garbage off the bridge into the creek.

There's no excuse for cruelty to animals just for the power hard-on. In fact it's the first thing they look for in the psychographic profiles of serial killers and psychopaths.

People killed wolves because they were threatend by them. You've heard the stories, we all have. Little red riding hood, the boy who cried wolf, haha! Wolves scared humans, so we killed them off. Deer hunting is of nescessity, though. btw, I'm a bit of a redneck, but I don't do the things you mentioned. :D

There is no exuse for cruelty to animals...hell, I love animals. But, hunting is fun, needed, and as long as you hunt by regulation, and consume the kill all is good.

I'm a hunter, I enjoy hunting, and will soon take my kid with me on my hunting trips. I've killed one already this year, and have already made a deer roast, and a pot of chili with my kill.

Very tasty!

:smokin:

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:14 PM

bear hunting is just creul...ur dogs chase em up a tree and u walk up and shoot em out of the tree...fuckin prick, why dont u climb up there and fight the fuckin thign...

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:16 PM

No, I simply think that hunting should be a "damn, i have no food and need to eat something" thing...

Guns + People = Bad Things.

If only those who 'needed' the food hunted, what would happen to the deer? They would over populate, strip their food supply, and die of starvation, ending their species.

Hunters are needed, like or not...Bob

:smokin:

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:19 PM

If only those who 'needed' the food hunted, what would happen to the deer? They would over populate, strip their food supply, and die of starvation, ending their species.

Hunters are needed, like or not...Bob

:smokin:

deer surivived just fine before man start shooting peices of sharp metal at high speeds at them...

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:20 PM

deer surivived just fine before man start shooting peices of sharp metal at high speeds at them...

Yes, because of wolves, dryst...

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:22 PM

well...i wonder how u killed all the fuckin wovles to?...again with the guns...

either way u look at it...humans fucked it up...

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:30 PM

well...i wonder how u killed all the fuckin wovles to?...again with the guns...

either way u look at it...humans fucked it up...

U? I didn't kill the wolves, man. The people scared of them did way back when. I only hunt game animals, you know, those you can eat, and that have regulated hunting laws applied.

Btw, I like guns. Guns aren't the problem...people are.

:smokin:

Fengzi

11-09-2006, 06:31 PM

W/o hunters, the deer would overpopulate, strip thier food supply, and die of starvation. The sad truth is that hunters are needed for the ecosystem, and for the balance of life. W/o wolves, or man, deer have no natural enemy to keep them under control. They need us for the survival of thier species.

Sorry to barge in like that, but it had to be said...

Much Love,

Somewhat of a reasonable point. Although, before man came along and hunted all the predators to the brink of extinction, this problem didn't exist. I'm surrounded by mountains, most of which are parks or "open space" where hunting is not allowed. We've got a healthy deer population but never have an overpopulation problem. Most likely that's because we've also got a healthy mnt lion and coyote population. They do a great job of keeping the deer and rabbit populations down, not to mention the hiker population ;)

Nochowderforyou

11-09-2006, 06:32 PM

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:36 PM

Somewhat of a reasonable point. Although, before man came along and hunted all the predators to the brink of extinction, this problem didn't exist. I'm surrounded by mountains, most of which are parks or "open space" where hunting is not allowed. We've got a healthy deer population but never have an overpopulation problem. Most likely that's because we've also got a healthy mnt lion and coyote population. They do a great job of keeping the deer and rabbit populations down, not to mention the hiker population ;)

Sounds like a great place to live, and if the deer have natural predators, I see no reason to hunt them, ya know? Unless, like Bob said...you really 'need' to eat...

Much Love,

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:42 PM

But with no guns, none of these problems would exist.

Hell I'll do my hunting with a whistle and stick. The cave men did it when they first bonked a wolly mammoth on the head.

We can survive just fine without guns. They aren't needed i my opinion. :)

Guns gave us an edge when it came to hunting, and protecting ourselves. People simply mis-used them.

Guns aren't the problem, imo. People are. Everyone wants to blame something else, and deny that we [humans] are the ones who fucked up!

Don't blame the guns, blame ourselves.

That's my stand, anyway...

Much Love,

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:42 PM

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:43 PM

Guns gave us an edge when it came to hunting, and protecting ourselves. People simply mis-used them.

Guns aren't the problem, imo. People are. Everyone wants to blame something else, and deny that we [humans] are the ones who fucked up!

Don't blame the guns, blame ourselves.

That's my stand, anyway...

Much Love,

thats my whole point..people are the one fuckin everything up....whether their uses guns or not, its just a tool used to do so...

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 06:49 PM

i never said guns were the problem...i said when humans use guns...thats the problem...shit wouldnt be so fuck if we didnt fuck it up...i never said u killed the wolves...humans did though :D which proves my point...

well...i wonder how u killed all the fuckin wovles to?...again with the guns...

either way u look at it...humans fucked it up...

Yup, humans fucked up, and that I will agree with...

Much Love,

thats my whole point..people are the one fuckin everything up....whether their uses guns or not, its just a tool used to do so

Agreed!

BobBong

11-09-2006, 06:50 PM

Sounds like a great place to live, and if the deer have natural predators, I see no reason to hunt them, ya know? Unless, like Bob said...you really 'need' to eat...

Much Love,

Do you eat what you shoot? Use the fur as clothing?
Or do you just chop the head off and mount it above your fireplace.

I agree that humans need to hunt, they have needed to do this for.. well.. a long time.

However.. when you've reached a point in society where you basically have farms of "food" both animal and vegetable...hunting becomes sport.. not a need.

And this "sport" is making a major difference on the entire ecosystem.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000251/index.html

It shows on all levels.. and until hobby hunting or "sport" hunting is banned.. we'll only make it worse.

"From my cold dead hands!" - C.Heston

Well ... If that's what it's going to take, so be it.

p.s i guess guns on an whole are overrated in my opinion, but that's for another thread.

dryst

11-09-2006, 06:58 PM

lol must have been a mistype :D everyone know how much of that i do on the forums :D

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 07:06 PM

Do you eat what you shoot? Use the fur as clothing?
Or do you just chop the head off and mount it above your fireplace.

I agree that humans need to hunt, they have needed to do this for.. well.. a long time.

However.. when you've reached a point in society where you basically have farms of "food" both animal and vegetable...hunting becomes sport.. not a need.

And this "sport" is making a major difference on the entire ecosystem.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000251/index.html

It shows on all levels.. and until hobby hunting or "sport" hunting is banned.. we'll only make it worse.

"From my cold dead hands!" - C.Heston

Well ... If that's what it's going to take, so be it.

I don't care much for Mr. Heston, lol! But, I do support our right to bear arms. I also supprt hunting, and I alway eat what I kill. (Read my posts) And yes, I hunt also because I enjoy it. Not the killing part, but rather the part that allows me to connect with nature, and of course the bonding among fellow hunters. We have a deer camp, and about 10 of us go every year, and it's a great time.

I do mount my trophy's, and yes they're hanging on my wall. Seems a little twisted, but these trophy's are just memories/reminders of the good times I had with friends.

As for raising live stock for food, I think that's far crueler than to hunt something wild. Cows are raised for the slaughter, and veal, I don't even want to talk about that.

You don't hunt, and that's cool. I just don't enjoy being looked down upon, when I do nothing wrong, and when I actually 'help' to keep deer from killing themslves off.

I didn't czeck your link, Bob, but I will...

Much Love,

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 07:07 PM

lol must have been a mistype :D everyone know how much of that i do on the forums :D

No harm done...

BobBong

11-09-2006, 07:15 PM

I don't care much for Mr. Heston, lol! But, I do support our right to bear arms. I also supprt hunting, and I alway eat what I kill. (Read my posts) And yes, I hunt also because I enjoy it. Not the killing part, but rather the part that allows me to connect with nature, and of course the bonding among fellow hunters. We have a deer camp, and about 10 of us go every year, and it's a great time.

I do mount my trophy's, and yes they're hanging on my wall. Seems a little twisted, but these trophy's are just memories/reminders of the good times I had with friends.

As for raising live stock for food, I think that's far crueler than to hunt something wild. Cows are raised for the slaughter, and veal, I don't even want to talk about that.

You don't hunt, and that's cool. I just don't enjoy being looked down upon, when I do nothing wrong, and when I actually 'help' to keep deer from killing themslves off.

I didn't czeck your link, Bob, but I will...

Much Love,

http://www.un.org/events/tenstories_2006/story.asp?storyID=800

Is another example of how overfishing is throwing a lot of things off all over the world.
I don't blame you for being looked down on but surely you have to understand how the other side feels. Animals are food for us. We are at the top of the food chain and it's been proven that sport hunting has destroyed countless species.
I find it kind of funny that you can shoot an animal that was born in the wild, has enough to contend with already but don't agree with raising animals specificly for food.
Look at chickens even .. we raise them, take and hard boil their children then eat them.

We do it by the millions too..

This however is what keeps us from starvation.

I simply don't see any reason for hunting a wild animal unless you have the full intentions of using that animal as food and or clothing.

Bob.

Skink

11-09-2006, 07:27 PM

I saw a black bear in my back yard,I just stood and watched in aw... I hope we go the right road and restore all the natural predators,as Fengzi mentioned...

I killed a ground hog when I was 7 by the tutelage of my grandfather,that is when I knew I did not have the heart to kill anything...

Cyclonite

11-09-2006, 07:45 PM

I limit my killing for fun to varmints and pests, Iv shot people (In war) and animals...I actually feel worse when a dog gets hit by a car than a person. Im so desensitised now its not funny. I don't agree with killing non-varmint animals for fun, but hunting is great fun. I always eat the meat...hunting for me is more of a social bonding activity.

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 07:51 PM

http://www.un.org/events/tenstories_2006/story.asp?storyID=800

Is another example of how overfishing is throwing a lot of things off all over the world.

Are you against fishing for food, also? I would say the average fisherman, like me, has little effect on the eco system. At least any negative impact. It's the commercial fisherman that do the damage.

I don't blame you for being looked down on but surely you have to understand how the other side feels.

Are saying that I should be looked down on, Bob? I do understand the other side, I just disagree with their views.

Animals are food for us. We are at the top of the food chain and it's been proven that sport hunting has destroyed countless species.

Which is why we have laws in place to regulate what is killed. It works when people follow the rules...

I find it kind of funny that you can shoot an animal that was born in the wild, has enough to contend with already but don't agree with raising animals specificly for food.
Look at chickens even .. we raise them, take and hard boil their children then eat them.

We do it by the millions too..

At least those animals in the wild have a chance, Bob. Live stock is raised to be slaughtered, for profit, and so we [consumers] don't have to do the killing ourselves. That way, we can turn a blinded eye, and eat in content.

When I was young, I was taken to a slaughter house, and it effected me deeply...cruel sh!t, man! I would rather kill, and eat wild animals, than to eat the beef, chicken, pork, veal, etc. that are raised, and slaughtered for the average consumer. Yes, I do eat steak, chicken, and pork, but I have a complex about it, and always feel guilty.

This however is what keeps us from starvation.

Yup, but it's a no better way than those of us who choose to hunt, and could even be considered worse.

I simply don't see any reason for hunting a wild animal unless you have the full intentions of using that animal as food and or clothing.

Bob.

Agreed, only I don't use the hide, I just eat the meat...

Much Love,

BobBong

11-09-2006, 08:20 PM

Are you against fishing for food, also? I would say the average fisherman, like me, has little effect on the eco system. At least any negative impact. It's the commercial fisherman that do the damage.
Are saying that I should be looked down on, Bob? I do understand the other side, I just disagree with their views.
Which is why we have laws in place to regulate what is killed. It works when people follow the rules...
At least those animals in the wild have a chance, Bob. Live stock is raised to be slaughtered, for profit, and so we [consumers] don't have to do the killing ourselves. That way, we can turn a blinded eye, and eat in content.
When I was young, I was taken to a slaughter house, and it effected me deeply...cruel sh!t, man! I would rather kill, and eat wild animals, than to eat the beef, chicken, pork, veal, etc. that are raised, and slaughtered for the average consumer. Yes, I do eat steak, chicken, and pork, but I have a complex about it, and always feel guilty.
Yup, but it's a no better way than those of us who choose to hunt, and could even be considered worse.
Agreed, only I don't use the hide, I just eat the meat...
Much Love,

I used to fish a lot when i could.. so no, i'm not against fishing for the simple enjoyment of fishing...maybe if the dumb creatures wouldn't swallow the hooks I would've been able to release more of them.
That's more than likely why we differ in opinion because i was never exposed to those kinds of things as a kid. If I was, well.. i very well could and probably would feel different about it. I know now what animals go through in order to just be a T-bone on our plate or the chicken in our sandwich. It bothers me? Not really.. What bothers me more is the millions of people that starve world wide while restaurants throw food out by the kilo.
It bothers me more that the food we actually do produce ends up being wasted on levels we can hardly imagine.
Sport hunting laws MUST be followed.. and unfortunately there are people that ignore those laws.
Same with fishery laws.
Hence the overfishing.
Nobody should be looked down on for their choices but like you.. I understand that people's opinions vary. I don't blame you for being looked down on by some people because in this day and age hunting for sport is seen as just that. Sport. However, I feel that it's no longer a "sport" so much as a way of life if you're actually consuming what you're killing.

Cheers,

Happy Hunting ;)

Bob.

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 08:47 PM

Cheers...

:smokin:

dryst

11-09-2006, 08:49 PM

new page! i hate scrolling!

blazed620

11-09-2006, 08:53 PM

yay saturday morning....gun season opens for deer. Im fucking pumped. I can't believe most of you...getting all pissy about shooting deers, and how we should only kill them for food and clothing and all this shit. When I kill a deer I do eat it all...deer steaks, deer hamburgers, deer jerky....I eat it....but even if i didn't...hunting is still needed to keep the population down, It also gives me a thrill when i kill one, It's an adrenaline rush like no other, and Im still waiting to find that monster buck so i can kill him and hang him on my wall

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 08:57 PM

bear hunting is just creul...ur dogs chase em up a tree and u walk up and shoot em out of the tree...fuckin prick, why dont u climb up there and fight the fuckin thign...

Bear hunting isn't even a sport; it's like shooting fish in a bucket. I watch hunting shows from time to time, and people go to these places where they feed the bears. Yup, they lay out little traps, and sit in a tree above the food. When the bear comes, they get shot.

That is just cruel, and serves absolutely no purpose at all. Do people actually eat bear? I don't know, but the methods used to hunt them are pathetic, imo.

At least we agree on a couple things, dryst...

Much Love,

Sabron

11-09-2006, 09:09 PM

Erm.. Deer are allowed to be hunt.. They are overpopulating the forests.. if we didnt hunt them they whould all die of starvation anyway..And now your bitching because somone killed an animal.. and probably will eat it so nothing is wasted..Put it this way.. YOU cause hundreds of deaths a year due to food.. Cows,Chicken,Turkeys etc... now stop bitching because somone is doign the area a favor by lowering the high deer population every now and then.. If it was a mother.. big deal.. They will survive.. Deers arnt solo animals

As for bear hunters..its not like they are going to go down on ground to face a bear head on and get mauled by a big mofo.. What they are doing may not be the most brave way.. but many hunters have gotten mauled by just being near a bear let alone on the ground hunting for them..

mfqr

11-09-2006, 09:13 PM

But with no guns, none of these problems would exist.

Hell I'll do my hunting with a whistle and stick. The cave men did it when they first bonked a wolly mammoth on the head.

We can survive just fine without guns. They aren't needed i my opinion. :)

Cave men actually were able to train wolves (the beginning of the domestication of 'dogs'), and use them as an aid in hunting large animals like that. And they did have very crude axes, which were made out of sharpened rocks.

JunkYard

11-09-2006, 09:27 PM

As for bear hunters..its not like they are going to go down on ground to face a bear head on and get mauled by a big mofo.. What they are doing may not be the most brave way.. but many hunters have gotten mauled by just being near a bear let alone on the ground hunting for them..

Yeah, if I saw a bear in the wild, I'd freeze up, and whimper like a little puppy, lol! :D

I hunt deer in a tree stand, but I don't bait them like bear hunters do. Where's the challenge in that? They come for a nice meal, and while they're eating...BANG!

I think it's pathetic...

Fengzi

11-09-2006, 10:14 PM

Black bears are about as threatening as my mother in law, actually less so. As a backpacker I've had more bear encounters than I can count. I even had one walk right up to me while I was cooking dinner one day. I just turned my head and there he was, about 5 feet away. I just did what I usually did, bang some pots and pans together and yell at it. So anyone saying they need to hide in some tree to shoot black bears is fooling themselves. Big grizzleys are another story but, from what I've seen, it's usually the blacks that are being hunted.