Collecting kif and pressing small amounts of potent hash.

[Nochowderforyou]

hi all,

This is a simple tutorial for anyone insterested in pressing small amounts of hash, and collecting the kif. I thought I'd share the simple method I use to make mega potent, pure hash. If interested, read on. Hope you enjoy. :smokin:

Pictures with instructions will go from left to right at the bottom of each post. I have sevral pictures, so wait until I finish to give a final response.

Collecting the kif (keef)

Picture #1: The supplies: A coffee grinder, 10 grams of high quality grass, and a kif shaker<----It was originally a icing sugar shaker that I found at a garage sale. I want to grind the buds down to shake the kif, so to do so, I use a simple electric coffee grinder I got at Wal-Mart for under $15.

Picture #2: I take the 10 grams of buds, grind them down fairly fine. The buds must be dry, as "dankish" or dampish buds, will not release as many trichs (kif). It will stick mostly to the blades, getting you not very far.

Picture #3: This is the kif in the lid of the coffee grinder after the busting. This is where I got most of the kif for pressing. I then tap the top of the lid lightly and most of the kif falls from the sides. I get the remainder by simply taking a razor blade, and carefull scrapping the sides of the lid, getting most of the remainder of kif. I then tap the lid again.

Picture #4: This is the first collection of the kif I got just from busting 10g's in the coffee grinder. I set this aside for now. Enjoy a bong rip or two while going on. :D

Picture #5: The kif shaker. Again, it was suppose to be used as an icing sugar shaker, but all I did was remove the sugar screen, that had too large of holes to filter the kif, and replaced it with a piece of silk screening (silk screen has to be used to collect kif). A pair of pantyhose will work just as well, as it has almost the same microscreening fibers to filter the kif. I got the idea for the shaker from www.waytoomany.com, under the marijuana section, titled, "Do Not Throw Away Your Stems). I take the busted grass, put inside the container, screw the silk screen piece on, place the dome on top, and shake for 2min or so. The kif goes through the silk screen, and collects on the dome.

More to come.....please be patient. :)

[Nochowderforyou]

Picture #6: After shaking the 10g's for 2 min, this is the second small pile of potent kif.

Picture #7: Final weight. 10g's of high quality and I got 2g's of even higher quality kif. Now, you can smoke the kif as is, but I find kif very sticky, powdery, and hard to handle, so I press it, and after pressing, it's called hash.

Pressing the Hash

Picture #8: The supplies: The kif, a small dime sized baggy, and a small sledgehammer. Any plastic baggy will do, I just prefer these to easier pressing and removing.

Picture #9: The 2g's of kif in the baggy. Now, this is important: When the kif is in the baggy, press it down really hard and cram it in the bottom of the baggy tight. Compress it pretty hard in the bag. If using a bigger baggy, just do the same but press it hard into the corner of the bag, and fold the big baggy up tight.

Picture #10: Take the bag and roll it up tight, like you would a joint, but much, much, MUCH tighter. Close with tape if you wish, but I didn't bother.

More to come....patience please. :)

[Nochowderforyou]

Picture #11: Now take the hammer, and start hitting it against the floor, while holding the other half in place with you fingers, be careful not to hit your fingers. ;) Hit it about 10 times on one side, then switch to the other side, then flip the hash pack over, and repeat it, then flip back over, repeat, then one more time, flip again and repeat. You don't have to smash the kif with all your might, but give it some bang behind each hit to ensure it presses.

Picture #12: The finished pressing, about 1mm now in thickness.

Picture #13: Unrolling the baggy.

Picture #14: I now tore open the baggy from its sides giving you the final goods.

Picture #15: The final weight. The same pretty much, a little loss, but most of that .1 was stuck to the sides of the plastic baggy, so I just cleaned it off, packed her up, and had a few bong rips.

The final product is potent, very potent, not for newbies. I made the hash from 3g's of outdoor sativa, and the other 7g's was Potstar. I keep the busted up grass, OF COURSE!! as it's not toally useless. It won't be as potent of course, but it will still get you high and is still smokeable.

That's it! All done. Hope this helps some people. I call it Sledgehammer Hash. Try it and enjoy it. :smokin:

Peace.

-Chowder

[Nochowderforyou]

nice dude...how potent is that hash compared to regular dank weed and how much less potent is that other weed after the kif is gone from it?

Lets put it this way, when you inhale a hit of hash, it feels like 6 hits at once of dank weed. It is not commerical junk loaded with male pollen. It is very pure, and very potent.

That other weed, the potency is about the same as mid. quality smoke after shaking the kif, so yes, it does go down a bit, but I like to switch from hash to grass from day to day. Hash every once in awhile for a heady, mindfucked stone, and the grass for a chilled, mellow smoke.

[sensistar]

man i hope i didnt prompt you to do that...
thats a lot of typing ____but i have to say ive never seen the hammer thing
always a press...but good less expensive idea...
word!!!!!

[Reefer Rogue]

Awesome post man. Personally, I would just smoke the buds but great post nonetheless.

[ToDrunkToFish]

Yea dude for sure. I didnt know it was that easy. I got a 3-4 peice grinder with keif collecter on the bottom. Its gettin a tid bit full for once!

Thanks. < Bookmarked

[darkside]

sticky it mods.

[Nochowderforyou]

man i hope i didnt prompt you to do that...
thats a lot of typing ____but i have to say ive never seen the hammer thing
always a press...but good less expensive idea...
word!!!!!


Ha ha! No, you didn't prompt me to do it. I've been meaning to do it for quite some time, and seeing as that I was wide awake at 5:30 this morning, I figure I'd whip up some hash and snap some pictures.

[Nochowderforyou]

sticky it mods.

Thanks! I appreciate that. :cool:

I'd love for this to be a sticky mods. :)

[slipknotpsycho]

email P4B, i requested my resin sticky, so i'm sure you'll have to make the request too.. but i'm sure he'll be more then happy to do it for ya :thumbsup:

[Ginnas]

Smoke the buds, trimmings for hash.

[Nochowderforyou]

email P4B, i requested my resin sticky, so i'm sure you'll have to make the request too.. but i'm sure he'll be more then happy to do it for ya :thumbsup:

Thanks for the suggestion Slipknot. I just e-mailed him, so time will tell. :)

[Nochowderforyou]

I can't believe this thread is already dead. :(

[Loathsome]

Beautiful thread! You did a great job, and this really should be stickied!

[ghettoBlunt]

I can't believe this thread is already dead. :(

oh its not over...hahaha
so i have a grinder and theres a good amount gathered up from lots of dank bud, and im wondering if there is a more efficient way to press it...like smaller amounts, without actually buying a kief press. i think it would be sick to have some dime-sized chunks

[mfqr]

oh its not over...hahaha
so i have a grinder and theres a good amount gathered up from lots of dank bud, and im wondering if there is a more efficient way to press it...like smaller amounts, without actually buying a kief press. i think it would be sick to have some dime-sized chunks

yep, you can actually roll it up in plastic like he did, but put newspaper around it tightly, saturate the newspaper in water, then put it in the oven for 10 minutes on 175degrees. take it out, and use a rolling pin. but you must press hard. the hashish will be much more pressed. you actually have to "break" it. i saw this on a video on youtube ;). i might try it sometime.

[Nochowderforyou]

Yes, you can use the oven method as well but it isn't needed. I'm always worried I'll just burn up the kif in the oven, so I just press it as is.

Still waiting for this to be a sticky mods. ;)

[smoke it]

you can use the left-over weed to make brownies

[Nochowderforyou]

I most certainly could make brownies if I wanted to. Not a bad idea. :thumbsup:

[phoenix]

Complimentary handjob for you Nochowder! :)

[Nochowderforyou]

So where's my handjob? ;) J/K

[TokinAsianGuy]

excellent guide dude.

karma +! ;)

[cheeber]

sticky imo

[Tiggernutts]

love the hash, good job

[BobBong]

Hey Chowder, great guide.

I was curious why you don't add any heat to the kif when you make the hash?

[Nochowderforyou]

Hey Chowder, great guide.

I was curious why you don't add any heat to the kif when you make the hash?

Wow. I'm glad to see this made it as a sticky. :)

I don't use heat because I find it isn't really needed. Using the pressure with the hammer creates slight heat because of friction. The blows from the sledge are more than enough to make it press and compact together. Adding heat like with the oven just takes more time, and doesn't increase potency any, and also I find the less you tamper with the product, the better chance it has to staying pure.

Glad you like and I'm honered this made it. :smokin:

[BobBong]

Wow. I'm glad to see this made it as a sticky. :)

I don't use heat because I find it isn't really needed. Using the pressure with the hammer creates slight heat because of friction. The blows from the sledge are more than enough to make it press and compact together. Adding heat like with the oven just takes more time, and doesn't increase potency any, and also I find the less you tamper with the product, the better chance it has to staying pure.

Glad you like and I'm honered this made it. :smokin:

Hmmm I was just curious because whenever I make hash with kif i add heat by flaming it with a Bic lighter because it changes the actual compound of the hash. Instead of pressed kif, it becomes hard like a rock and almost like a much darker hash.. I'll post pics!

[budsmoker only]

damn thank you so much for this.. me and my friends decided that we should make hash outta the kif that we have.. im glad that i know how to do it now..

[hammertime]

very sweet, im about to pick up a new ounce on monday and once it gets down to my last 10 grams i gonna try this.

[d00d989]

awesome thread chowder!!

[kingkush]

do you know how to make bubble hash?

[weedmaster]

excellent thread,thanks 4 taking the time to share it with us all

[Mean Green Charlene]

Awesome post. Thanks!

[KiEfBoyjBm]

Recently I have made hash both with heat and without heat and have found that the heat makes it stick together better. I wrapped the kief tightly in plastic wrap and newspaper, soaked in water, then put in oven for about 10 minutes @190 degrees Fahrenheit. I'm not sure if that's the best temp, but I got a great piece of hash after heating, although either method will work.

[LIP]

Hmmm I was just curious because whenever I make hash with kif i add heat by flaming it with a Bic lighter because it changes the actual compound of the hash. Instead of pressed kif, it becomes hard like a rock and almost like a much darker hash.. I'll post pics!

You do it almost the same as me, when you add the heat [Lighter in your case] it turns the trichomes darker because of the oxydisation.

:D

Nice guide for the hash making noobs :D

And nice pics too

[JaiPeur]

kthx

[KottonMouthKid]

how much do you rekon that hash would sell for in your area?

[Nochowderforyou]

how much do you rekon that hash would sell for in your area?

I couldn't tell you bro. I moved here just over a month ago and I haven't come accross any hash yet, so I have no clue how much it would be,

Back in Alberta though, when it was around, it cost $15 a gram of dark brown bubblehash. It was soft, very soft stuff.

[KottonMouthKid]

I couldn't tell you bro. I moved here just over a month ago and I haven't come accross any hash yet, so I have no clue how much it would be,

Back in Alberta though, when it was around, it cost $15 a gram of dark brown bubblehash. It was soft, very soft stuff.

that was sortof what i was thinking

have you tried this with mids?

im trying to figure out if the mids produce as much kif?

[Nochowderforyou]

that was sortof what i was thinking

have you tried this with mids?

im trying to figure out if the mids produce as much kif?

No, haven't tried with mids before.

It all depends on how much visable trichs are on the buds because that is what you shake off. The less trichs will mean less hash, the more, the more hash you'll get, so it all depends if the buds are heavy trichome producers.

And remeber, you make hash using mids, it will come out as mid quality hash.

[bzbuzzard]

dude im so confused lol, so you grind the buds to a fine powder, the shake it in the thing and whats left on the dome is the actual hash making stuff? and whats to stop the kief from falling back through the panty hose?

[skidoo]

This is a great thread. And not just because it's stickied.

Last night I sifted some kief for the first time. I've smoked it before, but I'd never bothered to try to sift it myself. The sifter I made is ghetto as hell, but it worked like a charm:

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What I did:

Used some thumbtacks to attach a sheet of 180 micron aquarium filter bag material to a small wooden picture frame.
Froze about a half ounce of stems and shake and about 5 grams of ground bud. Like, I put it in the freezer for a couple hours. Supposedly that helps the triches and oil from other parts crystallize or something. Read that in a couple of places.
Gently sifted all of the frozen junk (small handfulls at a time) over a ceramic plate and collected it in a pile with a business card.I didn't press the kief. I just smoked it. Good Lord. I totally concur with the 6-to-1 potency guesstimate above. And indeed, the ground bud that I sifted is still very smokeable.

As for people who say, "I'd just smoke the buds," well, that's cool and all. But the advantage of kief (or kief pressed into hash) is of course that you can combust faaaaaar less material and get faaaaaar more baked. Which a lot of us recreational users find to be an advantage. :-)

[skidoo]

dude im so confused lol, so you grind the buds to a fine powder, the shake it in the thing and whats left on the dome is the actual hash making stuff? and whats to stop the kief from falling back through the panty hose?
You don't want to grind the buds up too fine. This is what we mean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kief) when we say kief. This sifting technique depends on the fact that trichomes are uniformly tiny in size. Smaller than almost any other material on the plant. Unless you were to grind it into powder.

Another way to sift kief is to exploit the fact that it sinks in water. If you put ground bud in water and agitate it, supposedly the kief will sink to the bottom, but the rest of the plant material will float.

But the important thing is that you just want the kief. Not ground up green.

[Jongbong]

hot goddamn!!!
i want a rip of that shit!

[staple123]

can someone suggest or post some pics of what the procedure would be like for the MALE plant...I have massive B-52 strain and very healthy..I hate to throw it ou?

what part EXACTLY of the male plant to we grind down and sift for its KIEF?

I understand this is a popular procedure for MALES if you don't want then for seed prodcution.

also do we harvest the MALES earlier or later in the flowering stage for KIEF production?

so what is the procedure or is it possible to do it to a MALE plant and what is differnt in this techinique as opposed to doing it for e female plant?

thank you in advance....:)

[Twitty]

I have found a good way to press small amounts of kif into small pieces of hash. I got some pieces of hard plastic tubing and some metal bolts that fit tightly in the tubing. You want to cut the tubing short enough that you can push the packed hash out one end with one of the bolts (the size of the tube will depend on the length of the bolts you use). I used 1/2 bolts which will give you a disc about the size of a dime. All you do is put the kif in the tube and press it together with the bolts. The pressure from squeezing it together with your hands is all that is needed for it to solidify. After you have squeezed it together really hard, just let it sit for about 10 minutes or so. Then just push the hash disc out one side of the tubing and you have a perfectly compressed dish of hash. The thickness will depend on how much kif you put in. An 1/8 grinded in my grinder usually makes a good sized disc of kif. It burns very slow and once it starts burning you shouldnt have to relight it

[S.P.Q.R.]

Thanks for the guide Chowder. I just did your method (slightly modified though), and baked my hash for awhile. I'm stoned as fuck :stoned:

[herbaltivo]

I've been collecting the kif in a small grinder that came with my volcano and decided it was time to make hash with this small baggie that I had around, I included scorching the outside with a lighter to make it more solid, and i actually pulled a big hunk out of the pipe I was using because I could tell I was already baked and I thought I might wait until about now to throw it back in the pipe.

hehe...

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

your hash is beau-ti-ful.

great guide!

[herbaltivo]

Just put the remainder of my commercial kif into a heavy baggie, rolled it in a few sheets of wet newspaper and now it's tick tock tick tock ten min till the rollin' pin.

I LOVE hash.
:)

[canuck grower]

I've never made hash out of the kif saved up in my buster, but once I saved up 5g of it and then smoked it all in a week. Fuck me was that great! Maybe next time I'll try some Sledgehammer Hash(tm). :jointsmile:

[slipknotpsycho]

I can't believe this thread is already dead. :(

lol... still think the thread is 'dead'?

[Nochowderforyou]

lol... still think the thread is 'dead'?

Ha ha! Nah, not so dead no more. I'm surprised it has recieved this much response. I'm honored to have it as a sticky for everyone to see. :rastasmoke:

[daima]

Lets put it this way, when you inhale a hit of hash, it feels like 6 hits at once of dank weed. It is not commerical junk loaded with male pollen. It is very pure, and very potent.

That other weed, the potency is about the same as mid. quality smoke after shaking the kif, so yes, it does go down a bit, but I like to switch from hash to grass from day to day. Hash every once in awhile for a heady, mindfucked stone, and the grass for a chilled, mellow smoke.

Nice work.

I just finished making a batch of bubblehash out of 1/2lb of smaller buds.
Waiting for the bigger piles to dry, but what was left on my pressing screens lit me up real nice.

In the past i was using the 3 bag system, but switched to the 8 bag system(5 gallon bags) and very glad i did. I also used a electic mixer this time and just about doubled what i normally get off a 1/2lb.

dai*ma:stoned: sfca 94110

The high is instantaneous (sp)

[latewood]

cool never saw this before...I have been grinding a long time wit
h my Braun coffee grinder, and yes the hash you get from the lid. Wooooooooo. peace

[rnichilo]

great hash

[russ-bob]

nice bro

~Russ~

[Brandotheblazer]

How do u make bubblehash???anybody know?? nochowder??:S5:

[canuck grower]

Nope, nobody knows. It's a big secret. ;)

how to make bubble hash - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+bubble+hash)

[Nochowderforyou]

Google is a wonderful thing. :)

[Brandotheblazer]

aweseom websit of google lol i read it all tanx you

[OniEhtRedrum781]

Is it any more potent than just smoking straight kief in a bowl?

[Brandotheblazer]

fuck ya

[LIP]

For everyone wonder about the differnces between pressed kief and heated kief [blond and dark hash] here's my own homemade blond and dark hash.

http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/102153-2-differnt-types-homemade-hash-blond-dark.html

The blond is exactly the same as no chowders method, and the dark is basically the same but shoved in the oven.

I also put a little info on why some hash is darker and some is lighter. Although it's fairly easy to work out.

[SwirlyMass]

hell yeah, hey is there anything else usable as a screen, idk if i can find any pantyhose, this is a bachelor pad. and cheese cloth wont work (the kind i have wont anyway. the screen in my grinder broke in one place so i cant use that.

anything else u can think of?

[Nochowderforyou]

Sorry Swirly, all I know is to use Silk Screening or pantyhose if silk screening isn't around.

Silk Screen can be found at most major retail hardware centers.

[MyWorstEnemy]

it sounds kinda easy reading other ppls posts according to them but i was lost at like the 3rd word or so

[xmordeciax]

Kief is deff the way to go.. me and my freinds were saving up, and had a mini jar filled of the shit, hard packed too but then desperate times came and we smoked it all, pinch by pinch... and for all you who are wondering how strong the shit is.... one pinch would get you higher than youve ever been

[not_the_kitty]

Is it possible to use this method but only grind stems? I have probably a half ounce of stems saved up and in the bottom of the bag I can see what looks like kief powder.

[Nochowderforyou]

Check out Way Too Many (http://www.waytoomany.com) under the mrijuana section, look for the title "Don't Throw Away Your Stems." It's a video showing how you can shake the kif from your stems.

Don't grind them up though. Keep them whole as you don't want stem dust coming through the screening. Keep in mind you need about 10g's of stems to get even one or two small kif hits. :)

[gabee42ee]

awsome ... best idea for making hash ... every time i have wanted to make it i thought i would have to buy one of those bubble bags that are mad expensive

[Granger01]

i tried the "sledge hammer hash" today; it was successful. it looked like i used about 2g of some pot, that i grinded in a hand held grinder {stone}. It became a very fine dusty like material, that i then put into a container.. after that i dipped the blade of my pocket knife into the hashish material and placed it atop my pot in a small bowl, and i'm fucked up. As, you can tell..haha enjoy to try!:thumbsup:

[MadSativa]

Cool extract bro. But I gotta ad if you did the bubble extract method you would have much purer hash. the bubble extraction is th easyest and produces the purest hash, hence the name bubble hash as it bubbles when smoking it. Check it heres hightimes guru Jorge Cervantes making 10g of bubble hash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?p=2CA74AFE8E294D29&v=CumzuG2u2ew&feature=PlayList&index=34: pimp:thumbsup:

[Oil_Man]

yeah man ive done that same thing, my brother started doing that like 8 years ago, so when i started smoking weed i bought a electric bud buster(coffee grinder) and make hash, but i just let my thc build up in the budbuster, so when ever i want a joint a bud bust it an leave the ectra crystals in there till it can make me a nice huge nug.. an by the way for you people wanting to try this... its so easy to do, but if you fuck up u can lose alot of thc!!!

[rnichilo]

ya using trimmings for hash is great but if you have a few (5) grams of good weed u can grind it; shake it and make at least .5g of some nice gold hash, when i make it i usually make .5 and its enough to get me high twice, so i think its fun every once in a while

[funfubarman]

i do this and i love it. i grind up my ounce and once it is done i press a nice band of hash, even though some dont really consider it real hash.

[RedRainDrop]

You've prompted me to fill my dime bags full of leftover crystals.... ill have a mean assorted crystal hash one day :D:jointsmile:

[EternalOverdose]

im really new to hash and keef. isnt hash black? and whats keif? and did it just come out of the weed when u blended it or w.e?

[funfubarman]

Hash turns black when heat is used.

[lazy smoker7]

hey can you do this with mid grade weed?

[Nochowderforyou]

Eternal OD: Hash can be black, but it is only blackish/dark brown when heat is used. I chose not to use heat. The main difference between using heat or not is whether or not you want the hash to crumble a bit when picked apart, or stay compacted. Dark hash, made using heat and pressure, will compact the hash and not be crumbly. This blonde hash on the other hand kind of crumbles when you pick a piece off, and that's how I like it, so it's all a matter of choice. :) And kif, are all of those little, tiny crystals you see on your bud.

Lazy smoker: Yes, you can use any grade of hash you want to, but remeber the quality of the cannabis will greatly effect the quality of the hash.

[Dr.Hashman]

I use a grinder with a pollen collector that works very well. It probably works better for me than others because the grinded bud sits on a screen and slides around when I go hiking. I take my grinder, pipe, and a lighter with me when I hike which is 3 days a week right now. I took all the kief out from grinding 5g of WW, 7g of Juicy Fruit, and 7g of random potent stuff. I made "sledge-hammer hash" with it and it turned out great!

I pressed it out to about 2MM thick, then I used a 3/8" crinkle pastry cutter to make individual hash disks. I brought 2 of these disks and got like 10 people high lol. 1 small hit from the kief hash and they were gone. I had 1 huge hit and I was flying...

The only thing I did differently from the origional post was put it in a toaster oven at 175 farenheit for like 5 minutes after I pressed it. I put it inside a damp cheese cloth and put the cheese cloth on a 4x4x1/2" glass plate that I chilled in the freezer. I liked it after 5 minutes in there because it stayed together better but wasn't hard.

[orangeman]

I'm about to buy a grinder with a crystal catcher but I have a question. I read some where that metal grinders weren't good because there was a possibility that metal shards could possibly fall within your ground up bud? Can some one elaborate this for me? Not a grinder person but thought it'd be cool to have like a little kief catcher so I wanna get one but I'm not sure if I should get the metal or an acrylic one.

[LIP]

I'm about to buy a grinder with a crystal catcher but I have a question. I read some where that metal grinders weren't good because there was a possibility that metal shards could possibly fall within your ground up bud? Can some one elaborate this for me? Not a grinder person but thought it'd be cool to have like a little kief catcher so I wanna get one but I'm not sure if I should get the metal or an acrylic one.


I've got more than one metal one and all of mine are absolutly fine.

I've never heard of anyone else having that problem apart from that one guy - i think he just got ripped off.

Plastic are also good, but i definatly prefer my metal grinders.

[budsmoker only]

^^
im with LIP on this one, i have never had any metal shards in my bud....
i would recommend a metal one...

i have never used an acryllic one but i have a metal one and love it to death, i dunno how metal shards could actually get in there, i read somewhere that someone had that so i inspected the bud i ground up pretty intensely and saw nothing but some good weed...

[orangeman]

Alright cool. Gonna get one for my harvest when it's done. I'm gonna roll a blunt and just put kief on surface of the gutted blunt and add weed and then put more kief on top lol. I just wanna see how I feel. Gonna try to smoke the whole thing to the head haha.

[LIP]

Alright cool. Gonna get one for my harvest when it's done. I'm gonna roll a blunt and just put kief on surface of the gutted blunt and add weed and then put more kief on top lol. I just wanna see how I feel. Gonna try to smoke the whole thing to the head haha.

You'll be feeling very good - almost as though an atomic skunk bomb has exploded in your face! :D

[orangeman]

You'll be feeling very good - almost as though an atomic skunk bomb has exploded in your face! :D

:stoned: I can't wait :D

[orangeman]

Well I got the grinder and papers for the harvest. I think I'm gonna have a good one. Grinder bigger than I expected, I like things small enough that it can fit in my pocket. It still can but if I ever bump into some one they'll probably be startled by that big thing lol.

[Thinx]

Very informative I have smoked black as we call it in the UK is this the same kind of stuff

[Juggalo k00kie]

Smoke the buds, trimmings for hash.

i agree with this mofo! but nice thread =] :thumbsup:

[Trip06]

Nice tip. I put my nuggets in a empty spice bottle and duck tape this nylon like fabric stuff I fond over the top and screw the top back on. I shake it for like 5 minutes really good, tip it upside down tap good a few times and unscrew the lid upside down so all the kif is in it. I tap the keif loose and pour it into a baggy. Ifold the keif in the corner of the bag up tight and tape it and pound it with a hammer(props to the hammer head hash guy on here for giving me the idea). I usally do a half 8th nuggs like this and use a 1 hitter when I smoke....Works Great.:D

[xmordeciax]

I have a 2.3 gram waffer of hash pressed sololy from keif, its dark brown/green and it is amazing! Its literally a mix of kief from any bud i've smoked in the past year plus kief from my homegrown from back when i grew. Its the greatest smellign thing ever too!

[oliwog]

wicked post man i love smoke that shit gets ya fucked up if ya aint tried it its well worth smokin jus try it with a polen catcher grinder does the trick
i usually make hash from the left over leaves an scuff from my grows
always 5 x more potent than the weed

[budsmoker]

how much do weed do you have to grind up in the grinder before you get a good amount of kief?

[LIP]

how much do weed do you have to grind up in the grinder before you get a good amount of kief?

ALL depends on the weed. The more trichs, the better.

Grinding a 1/4 of some very good stuff will give you enough trichs to make a nice chunk of hash - and it'll last for a few days too.

[funfubarman]

how much do weed do you have to grind up in the grinder before you get a good amount of kief?

I get about .5 grams off of an ounce of some good mid grade weed with my grinder

[TheGreenReefer]

i just tried putting some kief folded up and compressed in wax paper with a paper ball around it soaked in water in the microwave for 30sec and it steamed up and made the kief turn brown like hash and its sticky and smells real good. im gonna try it out

[funfubarman]

Tell us how it goes

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

haha i just got that exact same coffee grinder and i have alot of kief in a pill bottle so i think im about to try this.. i find kief messy too..

[oO0Oo]

So does the kief stick to the lid of the coffee grinder? Otherwise after you're done grinding it up, how do you separate the kief from the rest of what you've ground up?

[mfqr]

So does the kief stick to the lid of the coffee grinder? Otherwise after you're done grinding it up, how do you separate the kief from the rest of what you've ground up?

As he said, the kief is flung up to the cap of the coffee grinder (or whatever it's called). You can see it, and read about that :).

[olliegrow]

Ever try putn your herb in the frezzer before shaking for the keif? Works good seems to seperate better. Then activate the keif before you smoke it..WOW..Peace from New Mexico.

[st1le]

dude it gets activated when u smoke it i.e. lighter flame hittin teh weed.:thumbsup: activating is for grenn dragon or food if im not wrong.

[nolanfortwenty]

so good

[Non]

holy

[thomasskull666]

dude thats hella tite i'm tryin that when I get home. I usually use a coffee grinder to grind my herb but i just take all my keif and roll it in a fat joint. I would assume that this will get u moer stoned tho. Thanks for takin the time to write this up!

[Barney Trouble]

What is the point in smashing it into a brick? Why not just smoke it before that?

[Ant171717]

I had nothing to do when I got home tonight, except an Earth Systems Science paper.. so i decided to try this out.

I ground up just over a half-o (using only my hand grinder w/ keif collector thingy). I put all my keif in a plastic baggie, pounded it on the ground for a good 10 mins with Stephen Colbert's new book (to my supprise, I dont have a hammer in my apt). It looks really good, i think i got quite a bit, but i havnt scaled it out yet cause im sleepy. I put it in the freezer for like an hour, took it out, beat it up again n then put it in the fridge.

Pics tomrow maybe?

[Ant171717]

my results:

[bogoljub777]

no chowder for you-

hello from a fellow hash expierementer. its the best man, when the wed gets boring you make hash and its fun and interesting again.

i was interested to see your hammer method. that was interesting. for my compression, i use a simple hand crank vice. just stick it in there.

i also wanted to mention that at michaels craft store, they make a thing for silkscreening tshirts. it is perfect for seperating cannabis.

i also wanted to metnion that in my profile pic area, is an example of sme hash which i managed to compress with my hand only.

only by hand. here is how i did it.

i took the powder, and put it in the palm of my hand. then, with my thumb i pressed the powder into the palm of my hand with some pressure.

what happens is, with the heat from your hands and the pressure you provide, you can actually form a ball of hash.

sometimes i form it in my hand, then place it in a press right away. that makes it turn black.

anywho, nice interest dude, its alot of fun.

[bogoljub777]

more about hash.......

technically speaking, there is no one correct method to make haschish. all you need is the keif or crystals, then you need some way to compress it.

i wanted to add some other methods people out there might want to try.

sometimes, i take my keif, and i mix it with olive oil. not too much though, just enough to make the keif stick into a ball.

then i take it, and i put it in a pan on the stove. you can keep it in ball form, or smash it down.

if you keep it in ball form, you will have to move the ball so that it gets heated evenly.

go black. heat the keif ball/flat thing until it burns. really get it hot.

then....... take your burned keif ball..... put in a plastic bag...... and mash it up.

reform it. mixing the burnt part with parts that havent touched the heat will make it stick better, and plus it will lighten it up.

then let dry...and you have your hash.

YOU CAN EAT THIS TYPE OF HAS AND IT WILL GET YOU HIGH.

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since i brought that up...... the only hash that you can eat, which will get you high, is keif that has been mixed with oil and given high heat.

other then that.....im not aware that eating keif will get you high, alone and raw. klind of like eating weed alone wont get you high.

............just wanted to mention this method, i know that haschish can be killer on your throat.... so instead you might want to switch to eating it to let yourself heal.

the only way you can eat it is if the keif has been mixed with oil, and given high heat.

ONLY EAT ABOUT A 10TH OR A QUARTER GRAM. any more.... and its spacewalk time.

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like i was saying.... there is no correct way to make haschish.

you have to keif out the bud.

lets explore this method.

i like the moethod proposed using the coffee grinder. but i fear that some keif is lost, or left in the bud. something tells me you could probabally get more then you are already getting, but i might be wrong.

i do mine by hand, like i mentioned with a silkscreen from michaels craft store. basically i just force it through with the side of my hand.

as i do this, green black film forms on the side of my hand. this is what is commonly called "hand rubbed" hash. it is the most potent.

very potent. almost too potent. but not as potent as hash oil. thats neither here nor there though.

so i force it through the silkscreen i got at michaels craft store, causing it to fall onto a plate below.

you can tell when its about done. a quarter ounce or half ounce should take about 30 minutes from start to finish. when you see the weed on the silkscreen sort of deflate and look sorry, go ahead and look closely at the crystals in the weed. if you dont see too many, you are done.

so you have you powder on the plate below. collect the powder.

now you have to compress it.

here is what i know-

like i mentioned, you cna simply use your hand. try it first with a small amount of powder.

work it hard. form it into a ball.

once you have your ball, you can either put it in a simple hand crank vice, or you can heat water, put the little keif bal in a plastic bag, and dip in the water as it heats.

if you do the water thing....start out slow. dont dip it in on a boil.

dip, watch the condensation on the inside of the bag, then remove from water and hand press it.

repeat as much as you want, but if you go too hot for too long....it wont be good.

or, as i mentioned, you cna mix your keif with olive oil, not drown it, and then heat it directly on a pan.

like i said, burn the outside of it, then put in plastic bag, break up the ball, and reform. the burntoutside will help it stick together.


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troubleshooting-

am not seeing keif fall through the silkscreen.

answer- do it harder. pres harder. it will happen. also, if the weed is a bit wet, it will takelonger then if the weed is perfectly dry.

-cant get the ball to form in my hand.

answer-

this is the tougest part of making hashish. there are a couple of factors. how much resins were in the weed? weed with more resins will be easier to form then weed which has few resisns. therefore, outdoor is easier to hand form the indoor, typically speaking.

its hard work. it will take persistence. the process is this-

at first, the powder sticks, but wont form a ball. it just flakes away. keep going. remember to keep it warm, and keep pressure. try to roll it into a cylinder.

you will know you have completed it correctly when your keif is not crumbly at all, and is in a fully formed ball.

its hard work.

-cant get the keif to stick together in a vice

answer- um...... do it repeadedly. it will start to get black as the oils come to the surface, sticking it together.

ideally, you should hand form, then when its still warm, put in the vice. if you just go powder to vice, it will take 5 or 6 crank downs.

oh! forgot to mention. if you take your powder, crank it in a vice one time, then try to hand form it, it will be easier then just hand forming from powder.

-i drowned my keif in olive oil. : (

answer- dont worry. all is not lost. simply take the olive oil with keif in it, and put in a pan on the stove. heat. watch.

when you see the olive oil start to dissipate, and the area where there was too much oil has now become maleable...... stop heaing and collect. it should be the consistency of..... wet sugar.

simply collect, and smoke. it will form together.

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i spent alot of time on hash and haschish, hope this will help you guys and girls out there to have some fun.

peace out!

[smokealot123]

so from an oz of AK 47 strain (really crystally) 28 grams how much of this hash do you think i would get if i used a coffee grinder and crapeing it.. i got about 1 gram from just the bud i grinded last night lol.. off just the lid.

[bogoljub777]

you probabally arent asking me..... but i jumped in becuase ive made hash with ak47.....nay, ak 48 before. (im sure you know about the name change)

ak 47 is an awesome hash producer. use the method i described above. if you use an ounce, i would estimate 10 to 14 grams of powder. total.

now as for pure "crystals"...no organic matter, i would estimate that you would get 5-8 grams of pure crystals no imperfections from an ounce of ak.

this is dope dude. i made hash out of ak all the time...and i will tell you a secret. the ak powder is so resinous....you can put it in your hand, like i described, and you can form that stuff without much effort.

it should take less then one minute to form a little ball from ak powder in your hand. it wont be that bad.

once oyu have the ball....you can put it in a press..(my favorite), put it in a vice, or put it in hot water while in a plastic bag. or just leave it.

in fact....if i was you....why not keif out the bud, and do every little method with many different little balls of keif? thats what i just did last night. was going to post photos, but the photo upload thing is messed up. will post asap.

ak is awesome stuff to make hash with. it makes alot of powder. go get that silkscreen from michaels craftstore.

dude if oyu make hash with that ak....it will be some of the most potent "onehitterquitter" stuff in existence. i mess with hippies and lifetimes smokers, and when we made hash out of ak it was one hitter stuff for lifetime potheads.

if you do it up....take some pics and post.

i just made hash last night out of an "80-20" blend. 80%superskunk, 20% nl.

you can do that. tinker with blends and stuff. if oyu have other bud then ak, why not keif some of that out, then try to blend some stuff?

its fun. that superskunk made the hash all skunky. its awesome.

i love life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : )

by the way....how do i post photos in this little area?

[smokealot123]

thats sick man, i know i have a new batch of this ak evry week sometimes 2 a week, and always the crystalls jump out of the bud. lol, i just got a whole dime baggie packed full with just 5 grams of bud.. it,s not compressed just filled the whole thing :O, so whatm im going to do now is compress that bitch into a block of 1 hit wonders lol :D---` should i use freezing in thistechnique

[bogoljub777]

what do you mean freezing? should you feze the bud before you seperate it, or should you freeze the keif?

if you mean should you freeze the bud, i say no. when i hash out ak, i just mak sure its pretty dry. it dosent have to be perfectly dry, just 75% dry.

if you mean freeze the keif, ive never heard of that.

how do you plan to compress it? do you have a hand vice?

[LIP]

what do you mean freezing? should you feze the bud before you seperate it, or should you freeze the keif?

if you mean should you freeze the bud, i say no. when i hash out ak, i just mak sure its pretty dry. it dosent have to be perfectly dry, just 75% dry.

if you mean freeze the keif, ive never heard of that.

how do you plan to compress it? do you have a hand vice?

He's talking about freezing the bud - easier to collect the trichomes because they're rock hard and not soft. I dont personally bother freezing it, i just use VERY dry bud.

Each to their own.

[Dillerdoo]

Excellent post, man. THANKS A LOT !

[bogoljub777]

yes... um i find that the more resinious and slighly damp the weed, the more resins that form on my hand when i make the hash and force it trhough.

by the way...i wanted to tell you guys, i ate hash oil. it works. you get high. only eat one drop.

[uberdank]

What's the best way to do more mass production and what do people think of the Bubblebags? BubbleBag.com - Buy Bubble Bags, Hemp Hoodlambs and Vaporizers (http://www.bubblebag.com)
This seems like a good way to do larger scale production.

[fUNKYcDOG]

would 3 8th's work, to do this exerperiment?

[IIG]

Thanks for this... I just entered this thread less than 45 minutes ago for the first time, and I'm already previewing the hash I just made.

[CoronaWithLime]

I just did this for the first time. Had about 1/2 a gram of keif saved up from maybe like a 1/2 of material (i wasn't trying to save it for anything, I just *inherited* one of those screened grinders from an ex girl friend, heh). I just put it all in the corner of a little baggine, wrapped it in plastic using 10% of the baggie at most, then stuck it under the leg of a heavy bed for a night.

I am quite litteraly amazed at the fact that it worked and it's actually really great quality. I didn't use any special material, some good stuff here, some shitty stuff there - whatever was going around - and I ended up with a rock hard block about the size of a dime. it only takes one or two hits to get you right.

One thing i noticed was that what I made was a lot darker in color than what my buddy had going for him (which smells great, but his stuff would turn back to powder a lot easier than mine). i don't know if this is due to difference in starting material or difference in ending material (due to the process of collecting the trichomes)..

[zebracakes]

Ok...I would like to say something.
My "tolerance" (if such thing exists) has never been very high, and probably never will. I can get high off of two hits. Joints blow my mind and I've never smoked a blunt.
But thats getting off topic (youll understand)
from the last grow and a few stonings I've saved up some stems, and had ground a few in my coffee grinder (bi mart 7 bucks YES!) And I couldn't help but noticed this funky powdery substance. I left it alone, didn't think anything of it. I thought it was "Weedpoo"
Now, reading this, I remember that there was still some kif left on the lid, and after I read this I had to try it, with what I had. I ground up the rest of the stems, collected the kif, used the method that started this whole thread except I didn't feel like looking for a hammer so I just jumped on it for a good bit. I ended up with 3 hits of this hash. I didn't even think it would do anything.
And here I am. And I am fucking ripped, which is why I can't type for shit. You can make this potent of hash from stems...I can't imagine. Everyone must try this!! And if you could find a way to produce it on a consistent level you could just be rolling in money. So do that.

[zebracakes]

My second whack at hash...
I been savin up some hash collected from budz I got recently, currently being pressed in the freezer. Here in a bit I'm gonna get it out and beat on it with my lighter for a while, then replace it, then smoke it up with a buddy of mine. I will have pics, and it will be dank..Turned the weed into shit though

[CoronaWithLime]

I did it again. Used my grinder with the screen and about 14g of some mid. Ended up with about a 1g nice and hard after 24 hours under bedpost

[vapeaway]

Very nice post. I have a grinder with a pollen screen and I've been wondering for weeks how to go about pressing my savings. I will do it tomorrow, I just sampled some of the kief so its probably not a good idea for me to be swinging a hammer. :stoned:

[tonynf89]

haha yes, there are others who smoke like me. ive been using this method for years, and it is the perfect daily high for me/ i find i dont get nearly as burnt out. gonna go make some now! only what i do is compress and roll it in my hand. works just as well, and if your good you dont lose any keef!

[milmad43]

guess I'm just lazy...Got a keif box off of ebay for 20 dollars, and it came with a kief press also. Makes perfect round disks of hash.

[purpleKallday]

wide awake at 5:30 man, if i had that much keif id have be asleep like 5 hours ago haha

[lilianmedrano]

I have a great solution to collect my kief : a pollen kief sifter box, bought it with the guys of trimmerpro only $60. They are handcrafted. great solution and keep my plants in a perfect place.

[LuLzBoaT]

Me usually do Moroccan style with beating sticks over screen to get pollen...saving the leftovers is what takes long to make, but well worth it. Compete with anything FROM Morocco.

[silent leprechaun]

I picked up some bubble bags to make my hash when my crop is done.
Put the 7 bags inside each other, each bag has a different size gauge working from larger to smaller.
Stick the bags into a large bucket of water with ice cubes in it for 15 minutes.
Pour all your trimmings into the inside bubble bag in the bucket with the ice water.
Get a kitchen electric mixer and get mixing for about 20 minutes. The trichomes become solid with the ice water and separate from the leaves and sink to the end of the bag. the leaves float.
The solid trichomes then fall through the gauge and this creates different levels of quality as the hash falls from bag to bag.

Clear all the leaves away from the top of the water. Shake the bubble bags in the bucket for another 10 minutes so to get the trichomes to fall further through the gauge.
This is important so you separate your qualities.
Remove the bubble bags and inside each bag you will have a layer of wet hash.
Turn the bags over onto a table and let the hash fall out. Leave the hash dry overnight.
Be sure to clean the bags immediately so they don't become clogged up and useless.
Very easy way to separate trichomes from the plant and make high grade hashish.
You can buy bubble bags on eBay fairly cheaply.

Take care all
Hope this might help one or 2 people.

[rudy2010]

I did not read the entire thread as that would take way too long. The screen size on the various kief sifters I have been investigating is 145 to 150 microns. Nylon is easier to use because you don't have the static issue. It does wear out quicker though. You can get stainless screen that is that fine but you would have to make sure it is anti static. It is much more durable than nylon.

The kief sifters I have seen would be ridiculously easy to make at home. Some have just 4 2x4's about 18" long with the screen attached to the bottom. It would not be that hard to make a tumbler either. I saw one listed for about $400 that could be easily made in a garage for far less. They usually have hand and electric motor power but the good kief is the stuff that comes out the first 10 or 12 minutes of tumbling. If you keep going longer than that you start getting leaf material in the kief and the quality goes down.

I hope someone out there can add a site where you can acquire the nylon or antistatic stainless screen. I would like to make one soon. I have mountains of trim. I would like to see how the kief compares to the bubble hash I have been making.

[drudown11]

whenever pressing hash make sure to involve a little bit of heat. it helps bind the trichomes together making for a more solid and denser hash ball. Hell i even wrap the kief in cellaphane and stick it in the sole of my shoe. After an hour or two of walking around its ready to go. The combination of heat and presser makes it condense faster.

I just blazed some 50 micron bubble hash and to be honest i like smoking hash more than flowers. a much stronger high and because i used 8 different strains to make it the flavors hit you from all angles. the stones from indicas, sativas and hybrids mixed into one makes for hell of a smoke session. like turning yourself into a mentally challenged person for about 3 hours

[drudown11]

I have mountains of trim. I would like to see how the kief compares to the bubble hash I have been making.


Bubble hash is the shit man lol its what the weed snobes smoke