24/0 or 18/6?

[Bree1978]

So, which is really better? Can people who have tried both share thier experiences?

[phytokind]

I've used 24/0 and it works fine, but I've heard people say that the plants don't grow noticably faster than 18/6, so if you're using high wattages it makes sense to use 18/6 to save electricity, otherwise 24/0 should be fine.

[deftdrummer]

and the thread should be stopped there!

[BobBong]

24/0 is good for early seedlings, I agree.. but there is a point where the plant needs to be in a more natural veg. Being, 18/6.

It's really personal preference, but 24/0 to late into the plants life can make it hermie.

Bob.

[orangeman]

I'd try to imitate the outdoors as much as I could if I were doing an indoor grow. So I'd probably just go for 18/6 just because, and also it would save a few dollars :).

[faithless]

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I think we need to take "natural conditions" with a pinch of salt.
Theres not much natural about breeding strains that have 20% THC anyway.

A bodybuilder isn't a natural condition, but by exaggerating all the conditions that we now know create muscle, we can create ultimate overblown muscles.
Theres not much natural about creating incredibly fast sprinters, but since we now know which traits, if exaggerated for hours every day through a very tough training and nutrition program, we create faster humans than ever before etc etc etc.

Noone is trying to create a pretty, happy little plant here, we're all (most of us) trying to create the biggest muscle monsters we can, using what we now know through science.

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[santacruz_organic]

24 is what im using and check out my plants at a month old ~ http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=87140 plants do not need darkness in veggatative and that extra 1/4 of energy will show on your plants, but will also show on your bill. its just a matter of how fast you want your grow to be and how much electricity your willing to use.

[Bree1978]

Okay thanks guys...I have just floro tubes and some cfl's right now, so I don't think I have a problem with the electric bill...but heat maybe since it grow is in furnace room...and BobBong, that makes sense since they are growing so much in the latter stages of vegetative growth (or so it seems, since I haven't done it yet HA)...

[TheGreenFog]

24/0, then 18/6, then 12/12....IMO

Be cool.

TGF

[LIP]

24/0 is GREAT for the first 7 days, after that, 18/6. Simple as. They're plants, and indoor grow op's are mimicing the real natural outdoor environment, so really, 18/6 is obviously the first choice. Even with CFL's.. 18/6 is better IMO, simply because it gives the plant a nice rest, like they'd get in the real world.

[Dutch Pimp]

24/0, then 18/6, then 12/12....IMO

Be cool.

TGF

...a standard [practice] is born....

[luvtogrow]

I like 19/5. 24/0 kind of wears on a plant after a while and also can sex earlier with some dark time.

[MegaOctane12]

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I think we need to take "natural conditions" with a pinch of salt.
Theres not much natural about breeding strains that have 20% THC anyway.

A bodybuilder isn't a natural condition, but by exaggerating all the conditions that we now know create muscle, we can create ultimate overblown muscles.
Theres not much natural about creating incredibly fast sprinters, but since we now know which traits, if exaggerated for hours every day through a very tough training and nutrition program, we create faster humans than ever before etc etc etc.

Noone is trying to create a pretty, happy little plant here, we're all (most of us) trying to create the biggest muscle monsters we can, using what we now know through science.

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Your correct, natural outdoor conditions are completely irrelevant to a plant grown indoors for #Number of generations.

[Anathema2121]

Check out this thread, it covers it pretty well http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=79571


Yeah, some plants absorb co2 they use during their dark cycle, but marijuana is not one of them. It is classified as a c3 plant meaning it uses the co2 it gathers during the light cycle and does not need a rest (dark) period. So sayeth Ed Rosenthal

http://cannabisculture.com/articles/3127.html

Cannabis plants do not need a rest period, unlike some plants. And as far as the "dark" reactions necessary for the completion of photosynthesis, there aren't any requiring darkness, just some not requiring the presense of light.



Quote by Captain Bowlpiece:
"Thanks Spunjah!

The main thing to keep in mind is that the indoor experience is not a replica of outdoors. The strains that are best suited for indoor growth have been bred and grown indoors for generations. Whether you grow in soil or hydro, under fluoros or HID, the only link between the indoor grower and the outdoor grower has to do with plant mechanics. Things like uptake of water and nutes, maturing, sexing. These are basics that exist in both worlds. For that matter, the production of sugars is basically the same in both worlds as well. It's just with the indoor world, we can control many more of the factors than the outdoor farmer. We choose when to go from a vegetative timetable to a flowering one. We decide on ALL the factors of a grow. Humidity, temperature, the works. Let's see an outdoor farmer grow his plants to full maturity in just 4 months.

Having said that, the objective of growing indoors has to be kept in mind when deciding whether to go 24/7 or 18/6. If you are trying to create a little piece of the outdoors indoors, then by all means, have a nighttime. You might want to hook up a high velocity fan and blow your plants over once a season to replicate a wind storm, and if you live in the north, perhaps a blast from a CO2 fire extinguisher would seem like frost. Obviously, that is not the point. The goal is the best, biggest crop in the least amount of time. Taking 6 hours a day in the dark means your plants lose 42 hours of growth each week. Why waste all that time when your plant could be photosynthesizing it's green butt off. Plants don't need REST. That's what is so amazing about them. Give them the right ingredients, and they do the rest."

[Bree1978]

Wow! Thank you, Anathema2121 , that was very well researched....better than I would have done...obviously...Can I say anything else? ty

[MegaOctane12]

I've bookmarked this for future reference, nice one Anathema2121 :cool: