lets start again from the begining

[virgin-grower21]

right after the last desaster i want to start all over again im going to give you a list of every thing i have and if there is any thing else i need could you let me know please.

500w mercury vapour light ( i know is shit will change soon)
2x 8w strip flo's (lumenem's ????)
1x 20w curly flo (1050 lumenem's)
5x 4" pots
2x bags of mirical grow
1x nft system (not sure if i can use this yet need more space)
1x bubbler system (for mother plant)

so if there is any thing im missing could you let me know
thank you in advance
p.s dont put seed's lol i all ready know but if any one has any spare my email addresse is [email protected] any seeds would be very greatfull

[virgin-grower21]

p.s if you live in england and are willing to part with some seeds there will be a nice fat smoke init when im all done lol i know its cheeky but hey u gotta try u dont get freebies other wise lol

[EckyThump]

you have a email man :stoned:

peace :thumbsup:

[kindprincess]

hey vg, too bad i'm not in england... give ya some blueberrys...

lov, kp

[virgin-grower21]

safe to well you know who init lol. well im loads more happier now init i got rid ov my ex got my grow room bk up and running what more does a bloke need well apart from loads of ganja lol. which in a couple of months i will have shame you dont all live in england u could all come round mine for a phat smoke. ne way you guys take care and when i get my seeds i promise loads of pictures all the way through. right got to go keep the tax man happy (work) lol i'll update in a few days take it easy bye all and nuff respect to all the growers and tokers out there peace out

[virgin-grower21]

well ive just read some one's thread and it said mg is not good for the plants to start off with. i live in england and was wondering what would be the best soil to start from something i can just go down to like b&q or homebase and pick up any help is most greatfull thank u all

[EckyThump]

Keep an eye on that letterbox man :thumbsup:

you should be up and running in no time ;)

Peace :stoned:

[virgin-grower21]

safe ecky will do mate like i said b4 ur a diamond geeza.

so mg aint good to use for seedlings so what is the best commercial soil to use i,e from homebase or b&q? i want to do every thing right this time ive just been out and bought a humidifier/temp and humidity gauges. and there all set up now in my grow room. also i need to get a new ph and cf meter as my ex smashed them up. but apart from that ive got every thing now so any help on the soil situation is most greatfull

thank you to all u growers and tokers out there
nuff respect

[virgin-grower21]

hello all well ive just been to homebase and there fucking useless lol any way i got some soil but i aint sure if it's the right one it's called

homebase rhododendron azalea&camellia compost
the description reads ( contains a special mix of nutrients and the correct ph balance to ensure a healthy vigorous growth

is this the correct one ???

and to ecky thanks mate got them today im well pleased with them thank u so much i cant belive the quality of the strains there is there nice wrapping up as well man lol nuff respect to you. well now every thing is ready just got to wait for a reply on the soil question and then we can begin again. and i promise picture updates through out speak soon

[virgin-grower21]

sup ppl it seems like it's only me adding to this thread lol never mind i just like to keep it up todate as of about an hour ago my mate came round with a 4ft flo at 36watts i dont know what the luminems will be on that but i saw one in the shop which was only 30watts and that put out 2300 would that flo plus my 20watt curly flo be enough to get me through to flowering or should i get more flo's in there and as for the soil could some one let me know if i got the right one coz if not i'll take it bk 2moro i dont want to start till i have every thing i need thank you to all of you for your help and advice

[mattmao]

get yourself to a good grow shop and they will help you with soil.do you know any other growers?? these are a vital source of information,plus if your lucky you could blag some clones,a lot easier than from seed on first attempt.no sexing issues at a latter date,just keep reading posting any problems and im sure everything will go well.good luck:thumbsup:

[EckyThump]

No worries man, only glad to help you out..:stoned:

Happy days :thumbsup:

Peace :smokin:

[potburns]

:pimp: I think there is too much of a big deal made over soil. These plants are literally weeds, they will grow through cracks in tarmac if you let them. I have always used bog standard seedling compost to start my plants off and it has worked fine every time. The only thing I would suggest is not to use soil from the garden as it will have hundreds of insect eggs and bugs in it, which will end up living off your plants. BTW - I live in England and I haven't had a good session for ages!

[virgin-grower21]

sup potburns thanks for the info on the soil very greatfull. and as for a session well my email is at the top of this thread so if u wanna email me and if i trust u den yeah y not im always happy to meet other growers and tokers but i gotta be carefull ya get me old bill and all dat i dont even use this comp at my house coz u never know who is watching init ne ways laters ppl

[virgin-grower21]

my little one's have poped there heads out now well 6 of the 8 have so ive put them under my strip light now i will post some pic's on monday wen i get my new camera have a good weekend all laters

[Weedhound]

Keep them away from the ex......

[virgin-grower21]

dont worry the ex aint going no where near them lol she live's like 300 miles away from me now so its all good. i went away for the weekend and when i got bk my babies looked amazing im trying to get a decent camera so i can upload pics of my new grow cuboard and my babies. ive got 9 strains on the go now so hopefully they will all be females and then i will be buzzing proper. ne ways ecky whats up man i aint heard from u in time u still stoned lol ne ways laters all

[Weedhound]

Excellent!!

[virgin-grower21]

hello all im in day 5 now and was wondering how i premote more root growth and leaf growth because at the minute it seems like there just stretching i have the right light now so its confuseing the hell out of me. b4 any one ask's im useing a 36 watt floresent strip light with 2x 11 watt floresent strip lights as side lights. im giving them 20hrs on and 4 hrs off is there any thing else i can do to make my grow better.also the temp in there is 60'c and the humidity is 45/50 is all this right? please help many thanks

[virgin-grower21]

or am i just being impatient lol ????

[virgin-grower21]

im just worried coz ive seen pics of other plants at five days old and they look twice the size of mine what am i doing wrong

[virgin-grower21]

right ill have pic's for u all later on tonight of my babys and my set up

[virgin-grower21]

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[virgin-grower21]

the last 5 are of a lil hydro grow im doing ive got an nft system with a 36 watt florescent light the cuboard will change in a few days but for now its all good im in the middle of building i big one that slips right over my nft system i painted it today so tomorro im putting the last coat on then i have to wire up all the electrics fans and fit my lights in to it. but so far how do you guys think its going any comments are most greatfull thank u all in advance

[virgin-grower21]

oh yeah all my babies are five days old

[brookerosebud]

looks like you're on your way:)

[virgin-grower21]

cheers brooke yeah seems like its going right this time. they have grown over night which is well good. i was told last night the light im useing for veg is not enough is this true its a 4foot 36watt strip light i have all my babies spred out underneath it is this right? any help is most greatfull. well apart from that every thing is going really good i watered them today ph water of 6.5. no nutes yet as still too young there only 6days old. but i do have to ask when do i start to introduce nutes to them some people say 2wk's and some say 3 or 4 wk's which is right???? many thanks in advance happy tokeing and growing all:rasta: :)

[kindprincess]

i'd say if your lights are working, then don't worry if it is actual size (though i've never heard of a 48" florecent fix being less than 48")

for nutes, wait til day 12-14, then introduce high n formulated nutes at 1/4 or less strength, work your way up every other watering.

my method, hope this helps....

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

what nutes will you be using?

[virgin-grower21]

cheers princess for the info im very greatfull, yeah ive just checked and the light is 4ft=48inches it might be different sizes for different countries but i just got my tape messure out and it's deffo 4ft but ive decided im gonna get one more strip light to go in there same wattage but a cool floresent one as the one i have now is warmdunno what the difference is but every one else is useing them together so ill give it a go it can only help more. i really need to go to my hydro shop soon but i keep getting stoned then chilling out and never get there lol. right here is my shopping list if there is any thing else u guys think i need can u add on please

600w air cooled hps light
36w-cool floresent light
fish emulsion
bio-bizz grow
bio-bizz bloom
carbon filter/fan and ducting

so ne thing else u can think ov would be cool but ive just been looking at a site ill post the link in here i no its a bit pricey but what do u guys think
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Shop_Professional_71.html

its the kit down at the bottom it has every thing i could possably need and more if u guys think its worth the money i'll order it 2moro save's me going to my hydro shop lol can get stoned again then lol peace out all :rasta:

[virgin-grower21]

ok here you are if you cant be arsed to look at the link dont worry im the same lol. this is every thing in the kit and a description as well


A Professional hydroponic starter kit for 4 plants.
This starter kit has is all and is definitely for those who require the very best! This kit not only contains everything you need to grow a crop from start to finish, it contains the BEST of everything! We have put the kit together for those who are really serious about doing the best possible job. It has everything you need to grow from seedling or cuttings right through to harvest in a fully controlled environment. All the kit supplied is the best quality. The lighting system supplied is a powerful 600w Prolite with both metal halide and sodium lamps for the very best grow and bloom. The ventilation system is seriously powerful and exceptionally quiet. You get two high quality acoustic cabinet fans, one for air in and one for air out. The fans are supplied with sound proofed ducting and are connected to a fan speed controller which will control the speed of the two extractors depending on the temperature inside your grow room. Brilliant! The carbon filter is the best quality and will remove all unpleasant odors.
The hydro system is the Wilma 4 pot and it comes complete with tank aeration and heating equipment. It also has a precision interval minute timer for really accurate timing of irrigation cycles.
Achieve the very best control of your nutrient solution with digital pH and EC measuring equipment, supplied with all buffers, calibration and cleaning solutions.
The medium supplied is Coco fibre.
The nutrients supplied with this kit are from leading Dutch company Canna and are supplied in 5ltr sizes meaning no need to revisit the shop inbetween harvests.
Why coco peat? We chose coco peat for our starter kits because we find it to be a particularly stable growing medium. It offers good reliable growth rates and it is far more tolerant of mistakes than other types of medium making it a wise choice for beginners. However, the Wilma system will work with other types of medium such as expanded clay pebbles so the grower can experiment in the future if they require. This system can be used as a recirculating system or configured as a run to waste system if required. For information on how to use this as a run to waste system please call our support team on 01392 276998
You will need a space of approx 100cm x 100cm for this kit.
If you need somewhere to put this kit, it is perfect with the â??home box 120 x 120 x 200â?� grow tent found in the grow rooms section of our site.
Any purchaser of our starter kit will be given useful guides on how to grow and are welcome to phone or email us at any time for our support. In short, we will see you through your grow.
Kit includes:
24x Flexi Mix Cubes
24x Flexi Mix Pots
1x Heated Propagator
1x Gel4Plugs rooting hormone
1x 2ltr High pressure Sprayer
1x Scalpel
1x Starlite Propagation Light
1x Grasslin Timer
1x 600w Prolite HID Lighting System with Phillips Son-T plus Lamp (includes built in timer and power controller)
1x 600w Metal Halide Lamp
1x Heat Shield
2x Pair of Easy Rolls (lamp support device)
2x 150mm Ruck Extractor Fans (includes all flex and plugs)
1x Primair Fan Speed Controller
1x Phat Carbon Filter (best type)
10x Meters of Acoustic Ducting
5x Jubilee Clips
1x Digital Hygrometer/Thermometer
1x Clip on fan
1x Wilma 4 Pot System (includes all pumps and fittings)
1x Hydor Tank Heater
1x Ario 1 Air Pump
1x Ecotecnics minute timer
1x 50ltr Coco fibre
1x Canna Coco A&B 5ltr
1x Canna PK 13-14 500ml
1x Blue lab pH Truncheon
1x Blue Lab E.C Truncheon
1x pH down
1x pH up
1x Buffer 7
1x Buffer 4
1x Probe Cleaning Solution
1x Guide to Propagation
1x Guide to Nutrient Solutions
1x 500ml Jug
1x 60ml Cup
1x Pipette
1x Guide to Propagation
1x Guide to Nutrient Solutions

[virgin-grower21]

oh yeah it retails at £1350

[virgin-grower21]

right people ive just been out i couldnt get to my hydro shop so i went to my garden centre i spoke to some bloke and he advised me on some food for my babies the n,p,k is 7.7.7 is that ok for my little ones there 1 week old today i no they cant have the food yet but i want to get every thing ready. im off to my local light shop today to get one more strip light anu info on the food i bought is very welcome

[Legalizdahurb]

Looking good so far. I think more light would help them grow a little faster but not essential yet. As for nutes i wait untill i have my first 5 fingered leaf. You can buy root stimulant which helps young plants get going. I also give my young plants a little drop of "superthrive" as it contains vitamins and minerals to keep the plant going untill i fertilize it.

[virgin-grower21]

cheers legalizdahurb your info is much appricated and very helpfull. i bought a 5" 58watt floresrnt strip light at 4350 lum's but i have to take it bk as it dont fit right in my cuboard so i was pissed at that lol so as for the nutes i'll type what it says on the bk and u can tell me if it's ok to use (npk 7.7.7. and it says "is a fast-acting plant food with wetting agent and added trace elements for the strong healthy growth of container and garden plants from which fruit or flowers are to be picked: thoroughly water the soloution into the soil around the base of the plants (feed every seven days) is this ok to use when i need to start feeding???? aslo how can i get the ph up on my soil i bought a test kit and the ph is around 5 and as i was told it has to be round 7 i just dont know how to get it up to that. many thanks in advance

[virgin-grower21]

well justb a quick updat im pissed jus cum bk from pub so i wont be affing pivs tonite but wooll do 2mprpp kk sleep wrrl all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Legalizdahurb]

For veg you should have a higher N. I am not sure what is best but readin off my bottle it says NPK-14-6-17 and lots of other trace elements and stuff. My Nutes are Canna - Terra Vega. They do lots of differant ones but this is for soil.

[virgin-grower21]

ello every one thats following this thread. well today i transplanted 3 of my babies my k2/ppp and skunk#1 i just have 5 more to go into bigger pots now hopefully by monday they all should be in there new homes lol. i am going to use the nute's i got the other day one because i cant afford any more at the minute. this grow is really so i can make some money and have a lil smoke as well. but the next grow will be bigger and better and i'll have that lil bit more experiance as well. ne way bk to my babies i want to name them but do u think its unlucky to name them this early and if you have any suggestions please feel free as i dont want to keep calling them k2/hindu kush and so on i want girls names for them. i will be posting more pic's in the morning so watch this space lol. oh yeah as for my grow cuboard im making it's allmost done now i will add a couple of pics of that so you can tell me what u think take care all happy tokeing and growing peace out all

[EckyThump]

Very nice man, lookin really good :D proper on ya way ther if i do say so man. Can only say keep up the already fine fine job. even though its still early days am confident for you man....:stoned:

take it easy bro :smokin:


peace..

keep em pics commin man.:thumbsup:

[virgin-grower21]

safe ecky nice to hear from you man this grow is in your honour. i will have new pic's in the morning they have changed so much since then i think they were 3 or 4 days old wen them pics were taken im so pleased on how its going so far i just hope there all ladies take care ecky

[kindprincess]

hi vg, glad to see you're doin ok:)

keep up the good work and

you might want a more potent fert for veg (cuts maturing time down a few weeks) i use miracle gro 24-8-16 with no trace elements. wow. works like a miracle, lol

lots of bad hype on mg, from experience its great stuff. just get the kind for garden vegetables

love, kp:p

[virgin-grower21]

kl thank u kindprincess i'll have a look on monday i really want to start feeding on the next watering which is monday any way happy growing every one peace xxxxxxxxxxx

[virgin-grower21]

yeah i no every one dont agree with mg but i dont see the harm in trying xxxx

[kindprincess]

i use mg religeously, for veg. all purpose 24-8-16 with excellelent results. it can even cut maturing time down a few weeks. just make sure you get the kind for GARDEN VEGETABLES. no additives unsafe for us aliens:)

as for feeding, they are sooo ready, babe. "feed me" "feed me";)

love, kp:p

[kindprincess]

i have also used 15 30 15 mg for all of my outdoor grows during flower. excellent results:) just make sure; NO TRACE ELEMENTS!! add them yourself (which you prob won't have to, just watch for deficiencies(sp)

love, kp:p

[virgin-grower21]

kp i got some mg food at home i just rememberd but it dont have ne numbers on the back how would i find out the npk of it ????

[burnable]

for future seedlings give at least 4 inches depth of soil to preserve femininity

[virgin-grower21]

burnable what does that mean mate i aint got a clue do i have to leave a 4 inch gap between the soil level and the top of the pot???? any more comments are most greatfull thank you all with your help and comments keep them coming :rasta: :dance: :)

[burnable]

sorry, I meant have at least 4 inches of soil straight down for the tap root to penetrate; it's more likely to be female cuz it will think it's taken root in a good spot and it won't be forced to be a male, which comes up in less than ideal conditions cause all its job is is to release pollen, not to survive and develop a seed. I say this because it looked in the pics like the soil wasn't too deep, unless I'm mistaken.

[busteruk7]

looking good V.G dude
i like the idea you had with that light and the mylar thing
it should come along nicely
cheers all :)

[virgin-grower21]

cheers all for the comments and help im most greatfull i no i keep saying i'll upload new pics and i will in bout ten minutes wen i go home lol they look so much better now as well actually look like ganja plants lol ne way all take care keep tokeing and growing peace out :) :stoned:

[virgin-grower21]

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[virgin-grower21]

sorry the pic quality is shit im useing a camera phone at the minute it only shows 5 in the pic thats because the younger ones are in a different cuboard not take pics of them yet

[EckyThump]

Holy shit man there really doing good from them pics..:thumbsup:

Lots of love and care taken and more to come i would say me man :smokin:

Them pics are ok for a fonecam.:thumbsup:

peace

updates when ya can bro :dance:

[virgin-grower21]

safe ecky its nice to know im doing ok lol i'll have some better pic's on 2moro as i am borrowing a digi cam tonight take care all laters

[virgin-grower21]

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[virgin-grower21]

sup ppl how is every one all good i hope well i was wondering coz my plants are only like all most 3 weeks old and are between 8-9 inches when should i throw them into flowering the light cycle is 18/6 at the minute any sugestions are welcome thanks all

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so what do u lot think should i start flowering soon im on 18/6light cycle at the minute do u think i should go 14/10 or the full 12/12 ??????? any help is most greatfull

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[ganjaman30000]

well ive just read some one's thread and it said mg is not good for the plants to start off with. i live in england and was wondering what would be the best soil to start from something i can just go down to like b&q or homebase and pick up any help is most greatfull thank u all




i have some seeds but im using them sorry buddy

[EckyThump]

Lo0k better every time man nice job.. I would wait and get a cuple more nodes on them be on the safe side..

peace.

[EckyThump]

i have some seeds but im using them sorry buddy

he got sorted lol.. along time ago man

:dance:

[madeline]

sorry, I meant have at least 4 inches of soil straight down for the tap root to penetrate; it's more likely to be female cuz it will think it's taken root in a good spot and it won't be forced to be a male, which comes up in less than ideal conditions cause all its job is is to release pollen, not to survive and develop a seed. I say this because it looked in the pics like the soil wasn't too deep, unless I'm mistaken.

What??? Where did you read about this? The depth of the seed has no relationship to its sex. There is nothing to "preserve".

[Abattoir Dream]

What??? Where did you read about this? The depth of the seed has no relationship to its sex. There is nothing to "preserve".

well, supposedly, yes it does, (but not because of the pollen thing they were on about) im not the person who originally posted this so dont scold me for replying, but as far as i know, whoever posted this is talking about the studies on weed done by russian scientists which showed a higher female percentage when they had 4 inches or more for the taproot to penetrate, unfortunately it was never proven or accepted so it isnt information that should be spread around, but it should be kept in mind...

jesus im like a little info boothe or something lol... anyway VG dont flower them yet, they have alot longer to go, it looks like your plants are having a little heat stress problem, (and the thermometer reads 100! lol) so try and lower the temp. with a fan or something, get it around 80 - 85 and see the temp at night as it will drop... other than that your looking good, you might need a bit more space sometime in the near future though, unless you already have that sorted...;) good luck....

[virgin-grower21]

thank you all for the info and help. ive reduced the heat now its down to 70-75 now and humidity is around 40-50%. safe ecky/abattoir/ganjaman and maidline for stopping by im very greatfull ill keep posting the pic's and let you know how its going take care all laters

[virgin-grower21]

well i got some news for every one who cares lol after this grow im moving to amsterdam for work so im propper buzzing now laters all

[virgin-grower21]

sup ppl well i got my first 7 fingered leaf today. and im 1 day in to flowering now ill post some pics when it starts to get intresting lol speak later all

[EckyThump]

Off to the Dam man. great news bro. What work you do ? if you dont mind me askin like... You could come in handy lol. Digs In the dam :stoned: hehe..:thumbsup:

Nice to see your little ones are comming on. like you sed man get some pics on when u can..That would be nice ;)

Peace bro

keep on gowing

[virgin-grower21]

hi ecky yeah off to dam mate im a gas engineer by trade but im a bar manager at the minute so i got a managers job out there. might see what the gas jobs are like while im over there. any way my babies are doing wkd mate :) cant belive how big there growing lol im day 2 into flowering now so wen they start flowering properly ill post some pics laters ecky man take it easy :rasta: :smokin:

[virgin-grower21]

right ppl well i will have some new pics of my 4 remaining babies for u to see later i have had really bad heat probs and lost a few plants but i have 4 very healthy and big plants left now so its all gd they stand between 8 - 10 inches 3 out of the 4 really really stink as well i can smell it coming up the stairs lol dont bother me tho i love the smell and no one else can smell it. the leaf growth is amazing its like every time i look at them anouther set of leafs come through any way enough of me going on u will just have to wait for the pics u lot as for me im off home to check on my babies and to have my dinner lol peace out to all

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[kindprincess]

get rid of the mv and put those floro's right on top of her. she'll love you for it;)

love, kp:p

[virgin-grower21]

i just dont get it i've done alot of reading up since i started growing well thats all it seems ive done lol but any way one thing i read up on was lighting and i know that mv give's off a shit light spectrum compared to your hps or mh lights. but befor hps and mh lights mv was used all over the world so it cant be all that bad can it tell me what you all think i know its shit but it's all i have at the min unless them 2x58w flo's are ok but i dont think there is enough lum's from just them two light's so which is why i have the mv running as well. the mv is putting out 32,000 lum's plus the 8,650 lum's from both the flo's any way any feed bk on this is most welcome laters all

MERRY XMAS AND HAPPY TOKEING:rasta:

[bud breath420]

Id get those flouros closer maybe use the as side lighting..

[Abattoir Dream]

that plant is lookin great m8, but i would also do what budbreath420 suggested, and use those cfls as side lighting, hopefully the plant will bush out more... peace m8...

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merry xmas and a happy new year:smokin: :rasta: :rastasmoke:

[Abattoir Dream]

lol are you... a jedi?

[virgin-grower21]

nahh man not a jedi lol didnt want ne one 2 see ma face init so ninja mask just seemed suitable lol any ways hope u all had a gd xmas i feel like shit now coming down wit the flu lol laters ppl

[kindprincess]

i just dont get it i've done alot of reading up since i started growing well thats all it seems ive done lol but any way one thing i read up on was lighting and i know that mv give's off a shit light spectrum compared to your hps or mh lights. but befor hps and mh lights mv was used all over the world so it cant be all that bad can it tell me what you all think i know its shit but it's all i have at the min unless them 2x58w flo's are ok but i dont think there is enough lum's from just them two light's so which is why i have the mv running as well. the mv is putting out 32,000 lum's plus the 8,650 lum's from both the flo's any way any feed bk on this is most welcome laters all

MERRY XMAS AND HAPPY TOKEING:rasta:

i know that it seems a good idea to throw 30,000+/- lumens on them but, it is the wrong spec, so the plant won't use as much light... my personal experience with merc vapour was way too much heat, way too little light; those under floro's only were double the size as the ones under mv...

for twenty bucks you can get another 48" fixture and two 40w GE day light bulbs. that'll be all you need until flower;)

love, kp:p

[virgin-grower21]

hey kp thanks for the advice hun yeah i know the mv puts out too much heat but thats all sorted i got my temps down to 78 now and humidity is round the 45-50 mark which is perfect there or bouts. also im all ready 2 weeks into flowering now she showed sex the other day and it is a lady. i no its more the spectrum than the lum's but untill i got this grow out the way hun i cant do nothing as in getting more kit and lights. and coz its xmas im well and truely skint unless some one is willing to part with some kit (only messing) but as soon as this is out the way im getting all new stuff plus a new bulb lol i am going hydro nxt time not my nft but ebb and flow much better and bigger yeilds if done right ne way i feel really ill so im off i'll update in a couple of days take care all and have a gd new years eve.

peace and happy toking to all of you

[virgin-grower21]

well hello all errm where do i start i think my baby has a disease it's all wilted and looks to have what i can only describe as rust on the leafs. i took two cutting's last night and they seem to be taking really well so do u think it would be a good idea to take as many cutting's as i can and just kill off the main one. i just aint got a clue what to do any help would be most greatfull. im going to put the two cuttings in my nft system once roots are showing untill i can afford my new system any way feed bk most welcome

[Bree1978]

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

This should help! B

[virgin-grower21]

nice one bree ive just looked and its very helpfull it looks like i have calcium def. so thanks very much man take care

[virgin-grower21]

well just to update ive taken 9 clones off of my baby and placed them in peat pellets as im gonna carry on in soil ive decided. hopefully they will all take and do well but just gotta wait now init. i aint gonna use my mv light any more 1 its shit and 2 i cant afford the electric lol so im useing them strip lights i have a 20w cfl and a 1ft strip light above my propagator so that should be enough light for now untill i transplant into pot's. i'll post some pics later if i have time

[virgin-grower21]

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[attachment=o108750] pic's of clones and my baby and one of a leaf with the rust spots.

[virgin-grower21]

right well i had to take mummy out of my grow room last night coz i had a really bad fungus gnat problem which i thought i had under controll but i guess not so i took her out cleaned the room from top to bottom and placed my clones bk in there. i didnt have the heart to kill her so i planted her in the garden lol i'll just let nature take it's course now but my clones seem to be doing really well there not drooping or wilting which is a really good sign touch wood. if there is any thing else i can do to my clones to help them root faster please could you let me know. at least i got 9 good one's off of the mother. so i take it coz the mother was a lady all my clones will be as well now thats right init???

[kindprincess]

keep your pellets moist at all times. mist leaves once or twice a day. other than that, just wait about two weeks, you'll see roots.

also, for about 20$ you can get a double 48" flourecent fixture and two ge daylight tubes (6500k, 40w, 3050lum ea.)

these will work wonders for you during veg;)

love, kp:p

[mc-blaze21]

yh no worrys kp will do. i'll see if i can get out some time this week to get a light i got punched up last night so im a bit worse for ware lol. my babies are doing ok they are drooping a lil bit but thats to be expected with clones so ive read i no i can get that stuff to stop them from drooping but i'll just see how it goes for now ne way i hope you had a gd time last night speak soon. oh yh ive changed my name now as u might of guessed lol

[mc-blaze21]

right as of about ten minutes ago ive closed down my grow room. new yrs eve sum one broke the back window to my house any way for me to get it fixed i had to report it and well the old bill just came round and they were asking to many questions and digging in to my past its probably me being paranoid but i cant take the risk of going bk to jail again so ive closed it down and im stopping growing for awhile i'll still be on here helping other people out but thats as far as it goes for now i might see if i can do a lil stelth grow out in the woods some where when the weather is better but as for now im stopping speak to you all soon take care and a happy new yr to every one laters peace!

[kindprincess]

:( so sorry to hear that babe... safety first though, i recently move my op to a friends house do to internal complications.... but now i'm rebuilding, ad it's going to be even better! take care sweetie, and let us know how you fare;)

love, kp:p

[Abattoir Dream]

nasty man... they were doin good too...

[mc-blaze21]

i no but its all in gd in a way coz i wanted to go hydro ne ways so it just gives me a lil time now to get every thing i need and to set up my new grow room in the loft which i have to board out and put electrics up there so by the time all of that is ready abit of time would have past so i should be ok i will start a thread but not in basic growing in hydroponics this time ill post pics of me building my grow room all the way through i think not sure yet tho will have to see. at least my girl will be happy to get her closet bk down stairs lol ne way ab's i'll still be about and that so i look forward to talking to you soon laters!!

[Abattoir Dream]

oh dear....

i hope your not usin two accounts man, its against the rules....:o

just so you know...