Kerrys Botched Joke [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

Psycho4Bud

11-02-2006, 06:29 AM

(AgapePress) - Senator John Kerry says it was a "botched joke" -- but conservative and Republican leaders aren't laughing. And neither is the American Legion.

The senator from Massachusetts, while stumping for Democratic candidates in California, was speaking to a group of college students in Pasadena on Monday when he said: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, and you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
http://www.wdcmedia.com/newsArticle.php?ID=2160

He must be running in "08". Here comes another flip-flop. He really didn't say it ya know.......LOL.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Polymirize

11-02-2006, 06:59 AM

I know we could just blindly swallow the explanations that are being hurled at us by pundits and other members of the "liberal media".

But just on its face, doesn't this seem more like a jab at Bush's incompetance rather than the armed forces?

eg420ne

11-02-2006, 08:15 AM

Im\still laughing at that joke, bush pulled about not finding WMDs in his office:rolleyes: ya if you really watched and read the whole quote you can tell he was calling bush stupid but i guess if you pay attention to foxnews and the other mediawhores you would not know it....plus wat can you expected from a fellow SnBs member to save his cousins party:thumbsup:

KiEfBoyjBm

11-02-2006, 08:36 AM

It just seems that if it was a "botched joke" he would have conceded that immediately and not waited over 24 hrs to release a "public apology," which didnt seem very sincere to me. This can be placed among that long list of priceless Kerry quotes such as, "I actually did vote for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it."
Now all of Kerry's public appearances are being cancelled because other democrats don't want to be linked to him. (shows just how loyal the democratic party can be, similar to how they treated Lieberman during the primaries)

By the way, it's not just me and Karl Rove who are enjoying Kerry's misery. Below is a photo of US troops, in Iraq, lampooning Kerry's assertions.

Polymirize

11-02-2006, 09:04 AM

Now all of Kerry's public appearances are being cancelled because other democrats don't want to be linked to him. (shows just how loyal the democratic party can be, similar to how they treated Lieberman during the primaries)

What? As if that's different from the Republican's overwhelming sense of loyalty that has them rallying around Foley in his times of trouble right?

Right.

Hamlet

11-02-2006, 11:47 AM

I remember a joke Cheech told on a sitcom about being in a Government program for underprivileged kids who couldn't affort college--it was called VIET NAM!

Quite an accomplishment spinning that into an insult against the troops. Then again, when the draft starts up to supply fresh victims for Iraq, that statement will take on a whole new validity.

Breukelen advocaat

11-02-2006, 12:30 PM

It wasn't hard to understand that Kerry was referring to Bush.

Cyclonite

11-02-2006, 02:09 PM

Even taking it as a jab toward the troops....it is actually kinda true. Iv never met so many incompetent dumb as dirt people when I was in the army, I would say 60% of people are like that in the army. Its kinda funny that they are the people that get promoted the fastest because they always do what their told and don't question or think about anything. I was mildly offended by that "joke" since I served a year in Iraq but I wanted to point this out as well.

graymatter

11-02-2006, 02:10 PM

Kerry should keep his mouth shut and make room for a viable '08 candidate. That said, his "intent" was aimed directly at the reigning chicken hawks.

Bong30

11-02-2006, 04:40 PM

He said what he ment.....but he didnt mean to say it.

HE IS DONE FOR 08....thank god.

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He is the elite of the elite.........looks down on us like dumb pieces of shit.:mad:

Fengzi

11-02-2006, 05:08 PM

It's not surprising to see the GOP trying to make the most out of this. It's like a drowning man trying to save himself by holding on to a little piece of styrofoam. Sure it's useless, but ya still gotta try ;)

KiEfBoyjBm

11-02-2006, 07:14 PM

You have to admit, the picture is funny. Ya ll are right about Foley and republicans leaving him out to dry.

Although I think John Kerry could have said a few things that would have been a lot worse, its especially note worthy given his history. One of the major things that lost him the election in 2004 was his stubbornness. He would not comment on the swift boat thing at all. Those vets were legitimately pissed @ Kerry for his post-Vietnam behavior, he ignored it and lost the election. All John Kerry would say about his 1971 testimony was that his hair was too long. Also, according to the NY Times, on 3-18-06 Kerry was skiing in Idaho and collided with a secret service agent who was assigned to protect him. When asked by a reporter if he had fallen he replied, "I don't fall down, that son-of-a-bitch ran into me"

Kerry is an asshole, there are tons of anecdotes to back that up. I believe that many of you who are defending him, would be lining up to take jabs at the President if it was he who had started this controversy. But, similarly, I would probably be defending Bush in the same situation. Due to the fact that we all have biases, the only people who could legitimately hold this against him are soldiers and their families. Although I stand by my claim that he is an unwavering asshole, I will probably let this one slide before to long.

jamstigator

11-02-2006, 08:12 PM

Well, we've had eight miserable years run by an oil family. I for one am totally willing to give the ketchup family a try. It couldn't possibly be any worse. In fact, I was thinking last night, that's really all the Democrats need to do with their ads - picture this:

Black screen. From the top drifts down this sentence in simple white letters: "Vote Democrat. We can't possibly be any worse than what you've had for the last eight years!" Then a voiceover: "This message brought to you by the blahblah Democratic blahblahstuff." Short, sweet, simple, and it'd likely work very well. Lol! ;)

Who needs a plan or a message when the CURRENT plan and message is working so poorly?

Psycho4Bud

11-03-2006, 01:07 AM

A number of top Democrats said they were upset with the senator for giving the Republicans election-time ammunition -- even if the GOP was hyping the remark.

"He has already cost us one election. The guy just needs to keep his mouth shut until after the election," a top Democratic strategist said Tuesday.
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5620225

Congressional candidates in Iowa and Minnesota swiftly made plain that Kerry was no longer welcome to appear at scheduled rallies, and the senator scrapped an appearance in Philadelphia.

"It was a real dumb thing to say. He should say sorry," said Democrat Claire McCaskill, running in a tight Senate campaign in Missouri.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/02/america/NA_POL_US_Election_Roundup.php

LMAO!!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Hamlet

11-03-2006, 01:55 AM

Cyclonite

11-03-2006, 01:57 AM

Are all politicians really that spineless? Kerry is a veteran and should have said 'fuck Bush and his war mongering spin, I'm trying to get your dumb asses out of Iraq alive!'

They think the public is so fuckin' stupid and thin-skinned that they can't figure out for themselves when someone is shooting straight or bullshitting them. Doesn't anyone have the coconuts to just get up there and spell it out without engineering every sentence to appeal to the broadest range of demographics?

A strong Leader isn't going to worry about hurting a few feelings if he's shooting straight and playing fair. People can sense this even when they're in their 'herd mentality' mode.

But politicians are all scrounging around for poll points like rats for acorns. The state of Government has gotten so contemptable it's nauseating.

Yes, but sadly people are that stupid. Mindless sheeple going about their lives having no clue what so ever the truth is only what they are spoon fed.

Psycho4Bud

11-03-2006, 03:28 AM

But politicians are all scrounging around for poll points like rats for acorns. The state of Government has gotten so contemptable it's nauseating.

And THAT is what I find so amusing about this whole thing. With all the speech writers, P.R. people, etc.......he still makes a "poorly written joke" of this nature. Wouldn't ya think that just before an election that someone would have paid a little extra attention?

It just seems like the Dems have created ways to shoot themselves in the foot now for quite a while.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Ozarks

11-03-2006, 03:37 AM

A strong Leader isn't going to worry about hurting a few feelings if he's shooting straight and playing fair. People can sense this even when they're in their 'herd mentality' mode.

Bush must be one of your heros then ?

Hamlet

11-03-2006, 03:59 AM

Bush?! lol...that stupid bag of guts can't even read the scriipted lies off his teleprompter without botching it up.

Hamlet

11-03-2006, 04:06 AM

It just seems like the Dems have created ways to shoot themselves in the foot now for quite a while.

Good point..fortunately, all they have to say is "i'm not a Republican' if they only had the sense to realize that.

the yeag

11-03-2006, 04:20 AM

psycho 4 bud endorses Hillary Clinton for 08

Psycho4Bud

11-03-2006, 05:48 AM

psycho 4 bud endorses Hillary Clinton for 08:eek: :eek: :eek:

LOL....be kind of funny to see ol' Wild Bill roamin' in the White House again.....

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Markass

11-03-2006, 05:52 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek:

LOL....be kind of funny to see ol' Wild Bill roamin' in the White House again.....

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

lmao!:stoned:

KiEfBoyjBm

11-03-2006, 05:12 PM

This story below references past anti-American military statements made by Kerry.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/elections/15908705.htm

Fengzi

11-03-2006, 07:31 PM

Are all politicians really that spineless? Kerry is a veteran and should have said 'fuck Bush and his war mongering spin, I'm trying to get your dumb asses out of Iraq alive!'

They think the public is so fuckin' stupid and thin-skinned that they can't figure out for themselves when someone is shooting straight or bullshitting them. Doesn't anyone have the coconuts to just get up there and spell it out without engineering every sentence to appeal to the broadest range of demographics?

A strong Leader isn't going to worry about hurting a few feelings if he's shooting straight and playing fair. People can sense this even when they're in their 'herd mentality' mode.

But politicians are all scrounging around for poll points like rats for acorns. The state of Government has gotten so contemptable it's nauseating.

It's called "Politics". A strong leader shouldn't have to worry about hurting a few feelings but sadly that's not how it works. You stroke this guy, blow that guy, and never say anything you can't back out of.

Ever wonder why all politicians seem like crooks? Because they are. It's all a big game and what it takes to win isn't honesty and a desire to help your fellow man. Anyone who truly has those qualities will be eaten alive the minute they start playing.How the hell else could a jackass like Bush get elected in the first place???:confused:

Psycho4Bud

11-03-2006, 07:44 PM

How the hell else could a jackass like Bush get elected in the first place???:confused:

LOL.......because he ran against Kerry.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Fengzi

11-03-2006, 08:33 PM

LOL.......because he ran against Kerry.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Touché :p

eg420ne

11-03-2006, 09:12 PM

LOL.......because he ran against Kerry.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

How the hell else could a jackass like Bush get elected in the first place???:confused:
DIEBOLD DIEBOLD DIEBOLD

jamstigator

11-03-2006, 09:45 PM

A nation of people with at least 4th grade educations will beget a government that knows the plural of sheep is sheep, not sheeps.

Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe, but if you see a conspiracy every time you see someone breathing, you have a problem.

Tell the truth loud enough and long enough and with sufficient proof to back it up and you'll still find somebody who will refuse to believe it anyway.

;)

Ozarks

11-04-2006, 12:27 AM

graymatter

11-04-2006, 03:43 AM

But politicians are all scrounging around for poll points like rats for acorns.

I refuse to live in a country where rats scrounge around for acorns. Give me squirrels or give me death!

Seriously, Hamlet, good points...

eg420ne

11-04-2006, 05:43 AM

jamstigator is a tool, dont forget to vote diebold this tuesday

;)So what youre sayin is you would like to make this personal, Eh! I can handle that...

Being the great machinist that I am, I do have higher learning.. what say you?

I changed my quote just for you-----A nation full of JamsitgatorS will beget a government run by Neo-Cons......So gramstigator caan yuo spel ckeckme pleese:thumbsup:

Cant wait to vote Diebold this Tuesday

birdgirl73

11-04-2006, 06:25 AM

This thread has been the funniest thing I've read all day. I actually laughed out loud. And I can't shake the picture of rats scrounging for acorns --or the phrase "a nation of JamstigatorS."

Thank you all from a beleaguered soul who very badly needed a laugh tonight.

BobBong

11-04-2006, 06:40 AM

The first, first-husband to cheat on a presidential wife.. I like it..

I smell an oscar.

Wait.. sorry.. i forgot.. He did not have sex with that woman!

The dog tells a different story.:stoned:

Hamlet

11-04-2006, 01:32 PM

Give me squirrels or give me death!

Dammit, you ruined my cranky mood. And I was hoping it had a good squabble or two in it. Drat!

Well anyway, don't fall on your sword just yet Graymatter. There are plenty of squirrels too. What did that chic from Sex in the City say about Squirrels? Rats with a cuter outfit? :)