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Bree1978
10-31-2006, 02:28 PM
I tend to ramble a little, but bear with me please. Someone threw a seed in one of my plants (house, aloe) and Surprise! It sprouted. I tried to save it, although it took me a week and a half to get some decent lighting over it. I also transplanted it at this time (Saturday). I know it was way to early to do this, but I didn't want to wait to long with it being with that aloe plant (roots entertwining, ect;). Now it's first leaves that are not serrated are white and about to fall off, and the plantling itself is bright ass green. I bought 2 Daylight Eco LUX tube floros 6500K @ 3050 lumens each. Does my little baby need another color in addition, or is just dying because of the transplant? Should I chuck it, and just start over? BTW- I also have floro tube (labeled cool but it only puts out 650 lumens, small for aqarium) two cool cfl's 20watts each 1600 lumens, and one soft white cfl 23w 3000k 1100 lumens, but none of those are currently on the plantling. OOOH and also I have Miracle Grow for house plants... 8-7-6 would that be okay for ferts? Probably not high enough, but just asking, I'm thrify-er read cheap, lol. THanks in advance. Sabrina
phytokind
10-31-2006, 02:39 PM
The current lights are fine, and they should be only a few inches away from the plant. If the first smooth leaves (the cotyledons) are the only leaves that are dying, and the rest of the plant seems OK, then the plant is probably OK. And don't use miracle grow. For an inexpensive initial fertilizer you can use something like fish emulsion. But don't fertilize yet, wait till about the second or third week. Then if the plant takes that well you can use a stronger fertilizer if you want.
Bree1978
10-31-2006, 02:53 PM
Here is a crummy pic. My Camera needs new batteries and I am about as still as a leaf in 90mph wind. It is yellowing a bit. Could I also have the lights too close? It's within an inch.
phytokind
10-31-2006, 02:55 PM
An inch is probably OK, although your seedling does look like it may be dying. You may want to start some new seeds now just in case.
Bree1978
10-31-2006, 02:57 PM
THanks, that is exactly the answer I was looking for (well I was hoping it would make, but aw well it was an accident). Sabrina
virgin-grower21
11-01-2006, 01:26 AM
dont throw it away just yet wait a couple of weeks mine looked exactly like that and it was doing really well after a week i used mirical grow as well. but if u check my thread out now as u will see i have lost every single one gutted or what hope it all goes ok for you
Bree1978
11-01-2006, 02:06 PM
Here is a pic from this morning. I don't know, it might make it like you said.
phytokind
11-01-2006, 02:25 PM
That looks a lot worse, start some new seeds, at least three so you have a chance of getting a female.
Bree1978
11-01-2006, 02:27 PM
lol, I have a few seeds trying to start like you said. I was thinking it looked better....HA. I know the color is worse but it did grow. I am still laughing. Thanks for that phytokind.
CanGro
11-01-2006, 03:56 PM
@phytokind
You taking the piss or what, where the hell did you learn about growth in plants. If i was you go back to google and actually read up on plant growth. Especially for cannabis, cause you dont seem to know what your talking about.
That plant looks fine and its not dying.
A lot of cannabis plants tend to start yellow as there new leafs come through and become darker.
Try moving the lights away to about 2" and not 1" as it does seem a bit close to the top of the plant.
As for not using MG, you can use MG. The best MG to use is MG all purpose, its NPK is 26-8-16. But dont start using nutes untill at least a month old and also if you do use MG use a dilluted solution not full strengh.
phytokind
11-03-2006, 02:15 PM
So how's your seedling doing now?
Bree1978
11-03-2006, 06:08 PM
:o It has a new set of leaves growing, but by the pic you can see obviously slow. I finally figured the problem was the heat/dryness. I think I've solved the problem and it should green up soon. I flushed it too, because I am using a pre-mixed potting soil. I am calling it- IT- because all of the stress I have caused it! It's going to be a hermie prolly, so this is my plant to beat and abuse so I can learn. Sorry IT! Today I should have my three new sprouts...Hopefully I'll be a better parent to them.
Weedhound
11-03-2006, 08:03 PM
Keep trying! It's amazing how you can change one thing only to discover that the plant does a complete turn around! Make sure his/her little roots stay damp/not dripping/not dry. What are you watering with? Can you check the ph of it? (Sorry, but it does not look perfectly fine to me can gro)
Bree1978
11-03-2006, 09:45 PM
Thanks for taking intrest Weedhound- Well at first I watered it with well water (left out to temp/evaporate salts, the same I use for my houseplants) which it did fine with. Since the color change, I have been mixing the the left out well-water with distilled water. Bout 50/50. I am also have a rain collector out, but wouldn't you know it, it hasn't rained since!!!!!!! I don't have a ph ckr, but I really think it is the heat ( I had foil around it because for approximately first two weeks it had insufficient light...and I didn't remove it when I got the new lights, now foil is removed). Not to mention this grow is in my furnace room/closet (5'X6' guesstimate, the water heater and furnace are in there so subtract that room), lol. I definitley need to invest in a thermometer and a ph kit. What inexpensive ph tester do you suggest? Keep in mind I will not buy anything online...Stores available to me are Wal-mart, K-mart, Home Depot, and Lowe's. Although HD is farther.
As for my new sprouts....I used that premixed stuff, again....from Kmart Martha Stewart Product info: sphagnum peat and reed-sedge peat, perlite, and slow release ferts (i know now bad at this stage, but read) This product is regionally formulated from organic-based materials derived from one or more of the following: sphagnum peat moss, reed-sedge peat, composted forest porducts peat humus, a wetting agent, horticultural perlite, lime for proper pH balance, and a slow-release plant food. .09-.09-.09 They have a website...I am going to check it out, what should I look for? Or should I say screw it and go to Dollar General and get some cheap mix? I have vermiculite from growing some popular psychadellic fungus- I am aghast that I could grow those and not a simple weed- but no pearlite on hand. Let me know what you think my best possible course of action is at this point.
Sorry for the ramble, however I find myself high... Again thanks for the intrest.
Bree1978
11-04-2006, 05:40 PM
I'm gonna say screw the soil I think....I have a new seedling trying to push through and I am watching it. Here is a new pic of IT...camera not very good but it is starting to green up and still new growth on it today.
Bree1978
11-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Hey, I really don't know if anyone is following this thread, But, in case someone does a search on this soil...it's fine. My problems were heat induced. I have attached a new pic of IT, and IT's sisters. They had a little stretching, but I improved my ghetto set-up this morning. Please notice how much stronger/thicker the stems are in the new sprouts compared to IT. I am guessing the redness of my stems are due to warm conditions, but I don't know. IT's getting so old it needs nutes...but hopefully IT can wait til Friday when I go to town. Anyhow, thanks for looking! Happy :rasta: !
Bree1978
11-09-2006, 02:34 PM
I just had to share two new pics of IT and it's sisters...Ava, Bea, and Cee-Cee. Look at the diffrence in the wrong way and the more correct way of raising a plant! The seedlings are only four days old and they are bigger than IT. I think IT is almost four weeks old. IT will be the tiniest plant ever!!! I am planning on getting a fan, nutes (mostly for IT since others aren't ready), ph kit-if I can find, new pots, and some lsting material tomorrow...thinking I am going to use yarn...I don't know. I have to buy so many things -the list keeps getting longer! Well I'll check back in with more pics on monday, hoping there will be a change. Any comments or tips are always appreciated. I wanted to mention- brookerosebud (if you read this) that your posts have helped me tremendously in choosing how I am going about the lighting. Even though I haven't conversed with you, THANK YOU! Also Thank you to all the countless others that have shared thier logs as well....I pour through everyone trying to absorb any pertinent information. Happy Toking everyone!
Bree1978
11-13-2006, 02:29 PM
For those of you still following my first ever grow...Here are some updates/pics. While my photography skills are still lacking, enjoy. 1. Ava has some weird turn in her leaf...don't know what that is about. 2. Bea doesn't have good enough draining soil..but is doing good (or too close to light?? don't know), 3. Cee-cee is still the runt, but can't tell as much now. 4. IT is still the tiniest plant EVER! Also included pic of ghetto set up and cheap materials...I could have gotten something other than miracle gro, but I REALLY couldn't decide. There was a flower nutes and a pansy nutes...one was 12-4-8 and the other I cant remember, but it was a smaller number than 24 for nutes....no ph tester yet, hard to find this time a year? Comments always appreciated....Well if I don't hear from anyone- Till next time, Happy Tokin' S
Bree1978
11-13-2006, 02:30 PM
pics
Arklenao2
11-13-2006, 09:25 PM
looks like you will have some nice compact plants if all goes well...
how many total watts you using?
Bree1978
11-13-2006, 10:15 PM
Only 80 watts right now...2 40w GE daylight Eco-Lux 4' 6500K 3050 lumen tubes. I am going to add another workshop ballast and some cfl's when they get bigger ....I'd like to get an HPS, but I don't think I'd be able to keep the heat down due to the location in the house. The fixture was 7.50 and the tubes were 9.00 btw.
Bodom Children Of
11-14-2006, 01:38 AM
pics
where's the vermicultite and perlite?
I like the cd's, very effective in height control and abundant.
good luck
Bree1978
11-14-2006, 02:19 AM
where's the vermicultite and perlite?
I like the cd's, very effective in height control and abundant.
good luck
I can't take credit for the cd's...I got that from, who was it, oh yah, you...Thanks, you saved me a lot of light adjustments! I have vermiculite (which has been in my garage for years, open not sure if I should use it), but no pearlite yet...I am finding this soil to start out airy, but I am not sure if it will stay this way with prolonged watering...I probably should tack it on to the list...Thanks!
Bodom Children Of
11-14-2006, 02:25 AM
you could use a drill or soldering iron to make tying holes in your square planters. I used tape for a while but it would come undone alot.
but yeah just live and learn....it always a learning experience
and i snaped the main growth tips on my clones from being stoned and fucking with them. It was weird....the stems were too "woody" in dexterity...no bend into them....snapped like a twig...made me angry.
Bree1978
11-14-2006, 02:01 PM
Maybe I will try both the tape and the holes drilled in those waste baskets. I was thinking maybe I didn't have enough holes drilled into the bottom as it was..... Do you think that because you took woodier branches when you cloned that is why the stalk is too stiff? I was wondering about this while deciding if I wanted to clone or not. I was thinking perhaps...the wick method or whatever it is called. That'll need pearlite! Why did your profile say DEAD? S
Bodom Children Of
11-14-2006, 02:17 PM
Maybe I will try both the tape and the holes drilled in those waste baskets. I was thinking maybe I didn't have enough holes drilled into the bottom as it was.....
I need to do this to all of my pots as well
Do you think that because you took woodier branches when you cloned that is why the stalk is too stiff? I was wondering about this while deciding if I wanted to clone or not. I was thinking perhaps...the wick method or whatever it is called. That'll need pearlite!
This is what I think but who knows I'm no botanist. I want to try and make an aerocloner. Those seem fun. The peat pellet method did work for me with roottech cloning gel.
Why did your profile say DEAD? S
because satan commands it. attera totus santus
Bree1978
11-14-2006, 08:46 PM
I was talking about this tek for cloning: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=10225&highlight=wick+cloner
did I read that on your thread? Cannot remember....i'm just a daum stoner, lol. To the point: What do you think of that method?
I noticed today that I am overwatering...mostly probably because the soil is compacting..so I have to pick up pearlite...what is the SOONest I can repot do you think? I also have some roots poking out from the bottom of Ava, I'm not super worried about this as I am somewhat familiar with plants generally, but don't know much about cannabis (other than how to smoke it like it's my job). I am for sure going to repot IT when it's dry...just watered today (needed nutes) so that'll be a week....what is your opinion?
Quote: "attera totus santus" End quote.
I didn't follow that.........maybe that is a good thing? Thanks for your help S
Bodom Children Of
11-14-2006, 09:38 PM
I was talking about this tek for cloning: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=10225&highlight=wick+cloner
did I read that on your thread? Cannot remember....i'm just a daum stoner, lol. To the point: What do you think of that method?
I noticed today that I am overwatering...mostly probably because the soil is compacting..so I have to pick up pearlite...what is the SOONest I can repot do you think? I also have some roots poking out from the bottom of Ava, I'm not super worried about this as I am somewhat familiar with plants generally, but don't know much about cannabis (other than how to smoke it like it's my job). I am for sure going to repot IT when it's dry...just watered today (needed nutes) so that'll be a week....what is your opinion?
Quote: "attera totus santus" End quote.
I didn't follow that.........maybe that is a good thing? Thanks for your help S
That wick cloner looks simple enough with excellent results. I'm sure most any method will work as long as it is done correctly. Don't think ya found it on my thread though.
Have you ever looked at Overgrow's FAQ...I'm always using it http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm
The Cheapo-aero cloner is waht im talking about down in the cloning section....the mister cloner is also a cool one.
I like the repot/transplant a day or two after watering. That way the rootball stays intact and isn't all crumbly.
Some people say it's time to transplant when you see roots at the bottom but this isn't true. I transplant mine when they start to droop and look bad...don't know ya just look and can tell. However, sooner is always better than later, and others preach of putting the plant into its final/largest container right from seedling. I would do this but simple don't have the room.
Soon as possible for the transplant...especially if the soil isn't properly aerated. Go for about a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio of soil to perlite and or vermicultite when you mix up the next batch of soil.
good luck:thumbsup: :smokin:
Bree1978
11-14-2006, 10:23 PM
That wick cloner looks simple enough with excellent results. I'm sure most any method will work as long as it is done correctly. Don't think ya found it on my thread though.
Have you ever looked at Overgrow's FAQ...I'm always using it http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm]http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm[/B] (I like the repot/transplant a day or two after watering. That way the rootball stays intact and isn't all crumbly.Some people say it's time to transplant when you see roots at the bottom but this isn't true. I transplant mine when they start to droop and look bad...don't know ya just look and can tell. However, sooner is always better than later, and others preach of putting the plant into its final/largest container right from seedling. I would do this but simple don't have the room.
Soon as possible for the transplant...especially if the soil isn't properly aerated. Go for about a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio of soil to perlite and or vermicultite when you mix up the next batch of soil.
good luck:thumbsup: :smokin:
I am so glad that you mentioned that site! I had seen it before and didn't bookmark (note to newbs like me to bookmark this). After surfing around I can tell that Bea has root-rot, possibly Cee-cee- and even perhaps IT too.... So if you are following this thread stay tuned to see if it is root-rot, heat, premixed soil (i think I eliminated that one)or something else. I am happy to hear that I can transplant a little sooner than expected! That right there just bumped up my trip to town (usually I only go every two weeks) to in the next two days. Okay going to get thermometer (was going to get last time forgot), pearlite, more soil, and PERHAPS a ph meter. Can I just buy one for aquariums? Will this -just do- for water? I'd like to get a soil one, but I am not going to use my credit card, and prefer NOT to send a money order to a co. no matter whether the place is reputable or not. Do you know of a way to ph without spending 80.00...? I'm not going to buy a ph up/down -plan to use baking soda and vinegar...or whatever is commonplace.
I can post pics later showing you why I think plants have root rot...of course barring that I can get my camera to take pics well -okay you caught me! barring I can take the pics well. Again thanks for the imput and sound advice..excuse my overuse of (), - and ..... I like those, expresses in more likeness how I think (or do I think at all?????????) S
Weedhound
11-14-2006, 11:30 PM
Sorry I lost this thread for awhile but finally got back. Your newer pictures of your munchkins look great!! Good work! I honestly don't know much about soil growing but as far as ph goes if you have a pet store near you you can buy super cheap liquid ph testers that will work for you--very basic and easy to use. I have read however that you do not want to use the ph up/down for aquariums for your plants because there are too many salts in those particular ones. I don't know if this applies to soil or hydro or both. I would repot your munchkin in the poorly draining soil asap--I grew some outdoor ones in clay-like soil with crappy drainage and even tho I repotted them as soon as i figured out the problem they did recover but never really thrived after that. They only grew to about 1/3 size of normal. Of course maybe I just suck......
Bree1978
11-15-2006, 01:58 PM
Here is a pic of Bea, not looking very good. But Cee-cee is looking better but she is in a better draining container. Hopefully a replant of Bea will help. S
Weedhound
11-15-2006, 10:04 PM
Oh dear. The country crock one is definitely overwatered and poor drainage. Are you planning on transplanting today? I would asap. Also country crock looks pretty dark green--perhaps that is just the photo. Also if you have not bought your ph meter anything for aquariiums will do great (but not anything that mixes into the water.) Good luck.....
Weedhound
11-15-2006, 10:13 PM
Sorry you guys, didn't mean to hijack the thread if the discussion was between you two.... Good luck..
Bree1978
11-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Oh dear. The country crock one is definitely overwatered and poor drainage. Are you planning on transplanting today? I would asap. Also country crock looks pretty dark green--perhaps that is just the photo. Also if you have not bought your ph meter anything for aquariiums will do great (but not anything that mixes into the water.) Good luck.....
Going to repot tonight after I get the pearlite. Bea looks even worse this morning...meh. If you look at the last page you can see Ava, Bea, and Cee-cee are dark green with reddish -purple stems and stalks-I think it is the strain (which is badseed but it looks very indica to me, IT looks more sativa, don't you think?). I'm not sure what you mean by mixes into the water? Don't all ph testers involve taking a water sample and adding a few drops of ph testing liquid? I'm a pot head so maybe I am just thinking about this the wrong way....
Bree1978
11-16-2006, 01:58 PM
Sorry you guys, didn't mean to hijack the thread if the discussion was between you two.... Good luck..
You didn't hijack the thread, all comments and disscussions are welcome. S
Weedhound
11-16-2006, 05:52 PM
Sorry I was not clear about the ph stuff....by mixes into the water I meant things to adjust ph, not test it, but you had already mentioned you were using baking soda etc to adjust ph so just ignore that. Yes, the liquid testers involve taking water out, not putting anything in. I always seem to notice that particular color of leaves for 2 reasons--in hydro I would call that slight overfert (nitrogen) and I just plain like that color. Could be normal for soil or your strain; afraid I am not sure. Good luck!!
Bree1978
11-16-2006, 06:05 PM
It could be the soil, since it has ferts in it. ?I was leaning more tword strain because of the purple stalks/stems. I also read somewhere that purple is caused by either strain or cold temps. I definitely do not have cold temps...but the temps do fluctuate more than I'd like. I guess as long as they are growing..............lol. I'll update once I get the ph and soil and temps sorted out. Thanks Weedhound. S
Weedhound
11-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Yes, keep us informed.....
Bree1978
11-27-2006, 02:19 PM
Okay here is an update, and YET another newbie question for all you smart fellers and gals...IT has gotten a lot bigger and the seedlings have got somewhat bigger but I did have a little issue with them. I -you will never believe this-...wait for it....UNDERWATERED THEM! Gasp, I didn't think that was supposed to happen but aw well. I was so afraid of overwatering, that when they went limp I thought that overwater was the cause so I held back....Anyways that isnt my q...Now it and Ava are only growing one leaf at a time. They are normal five/seven fingered leaves but only one at a time, is this normal? Another little q with that...is this alternating nodes? Is It becoming sexually mature? It is about six weeks old I believe, although incredibly small. I've included a pic of what I am talking about, although the one of Ava is really fuzzy (it is just to show one complete leaf before the other is popping out). Do you think it is time to practice LSTing on IT? Hey thanks to anyone who wants to answer these silly qs. BTW, my temps are okay 72-80 F, but PH tester has yet to be found by me. Looks like a trip to the city...bugger! S
Edit: FYI, if you haven't read the whole thread Ava Bea and Cee-Cee are 22 days old. I also noticed that IT now looks indica...Now that it's bigger and healthier.
Bree1978
11-27-2006, 06:30 PM
Okay I am the eager beaver, I went ahead and tied IT down. Here are the pics. Can I make it better? Thanks for reading. S
Bree1978
11-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Here is IT a day after being lst'd...I know there are plenty pics out there, but I like looking at them and figured you guys might too. Still can't believe how 'normal' it looks already! I did move the yarn one node. Bodom-I didn't drill holes in this planter simply because I have to someday return it to it's original owner. I keep tightening the yarn...I hope that is okay....Happy Tokin' S
Bodom Children Of
11-28-2006, 04:26 PM
Here is IT a day after being lst'd...I know there are plenty pics out there, but I like looking at them and figured you guys might too. Still can't believe how 'normal' it looks already! I did move the yarn one node. Bodom-I didn't drill holes in this planter simply because I have to someday return it to it's original owner. I keep tightening the yarn...I hope that is okay....Happy Tokin' S
Looking good! :thumbsup: It was just a suggestion about the holes, In my pots i usually have to wait a while for all the water to drain through the soil, but with more holes, less time. LST is fun, now just wait for the secondary growth and then tie those branches down and so on. Neverending process, but fun if your bored. I think your the only person that puts down editing reasons....cracks me up
Bree1978
11-30-2006, 02:18 PM
well not being able to ck my ph is getting the better of me!!! Since I can't officially fix the problem today (I am going to get Epsom salt probably tomorrow or soon) I foliar fed them according to the grow faq's. Here are some pics showing the beginning of Mg def. Two of them were praying like crazy this morning! I'll let the water dry before putting back under lights.
I watered them yesterday....must have been terrible water, lol.
Pic one and two: Cee cee is the most affected.
Pic three: Ava affected but less...already showing signs of relaxing...
Pic four: Bea not affected too much, left alone.
I didn't include It, not affected that I can tell....maybe just because that one is more mature than the others...
Will Ph lockout make the leaves look thinner/skinnier???
Thanks for looking and thanks in advance if anyone know the answer to the above question! S
Bree1978
12-01-2006, 03:11 PM
Well it's not Mg (thanks stinky). But Cee-cee is still reaching...Faithless mentioned about overwatering...but I watered all three the same so I'm confused if that was it....Still thinking I have some kind of ph problem...Well anyhoo, here is an update for day 26 for smaller and approximately 6 1/2 weeks for IT. In the second pic you can see that I am missing some leaves from underwatering. Note to self: repot twice next time so I have better control of watering...:( IT smells so yummy...The others smell like a normal green plant :mad: However, I still think they are doing pretty good...and they have grown significantly in these last four days...getting exciting now. I find myself dreaming about lighting systems and lsting......Happy Tokin S
Bree1978
12-01-2006, 03:28 PM
I wanted to post one more pic before going. I noticed this growth and I don't know if it is an early preflower or just more secondary growth. I don't have a great camera so I had to take this pic through a little magnifying glass...you can see the stipules, but there is some kind of growth going on near the secondary growth. This is occuring in several places near the middle of the plant. Not the greatest pic as I mentioned, but I am keeping my eye on it...hopefully It will reveal itself! S
Bree1978
12-02-2006, 12:43 AM
Okay I posted a better pic in other link which is attached here as well. Now I know these are preflowers. BTW- This pic is closer to the top. I'll keep both updated for future reference. Happy Toking on a Friday! S
Link: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=93311 Same pic featured below:
Bodom Children Of
12-02-2006, 02:35 PM
Hopefully it is confirmed female. Looks like a calyxe but no pistils coming out you say? Plants look healthy nonetheless. :thumbsup:
Bree1978
12-02-2006, 04:14 PM
Hopefully it is confirmed female. Looks like a calyxe but no pistils coming out you say? Plants look healthy nonetheless. :thumbsup:
Thanks Bodom for the kind words! I keep peeking in on Isabella...hoping I see a hair popping out....Ava has some preflowers too but way too small to photograph or worry about just yet. Again, THANKS! S
Bree1978
12-04-2006, 07:26 PM
I finally got a kit to test the ph. It is utter crap since it only has 10 tests in it for specifically ph, but I had to do something. It is the Soil Master by Mosser Lee. I followed the directions, but added my water that I have been using (instead of distilled) with the soil. Was this okay? It was about an 8.5 almost 9. Should I ph just the water and adjust from there? Or should I fiddle with the soil and the water like I started doing? I don't want to use all my tablets before I get this sorted out, lol....please HELP!!!!
One more quick q....I saw inexpensive ph meters on EBay...would it be a worthy investment or not worth the hassle since I use Paypal? Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Indoor-Outdoor-Soil-pH-Moisture-and-Light-Meter_W0QQitemZ320056823944QQihZ011QQcategoryZ7567 0QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320056823944
Since this is not digital, is does NOT to be calibrated, right?
Thanks in advance! S
Shovelhandle
12-04-2006, 09:15 PM
both...you want to know what ph your water supply is as well as the ph of the water/soil of your medium.
Information is power. <G>
Shov
Bree1978
12-05-2006, 01:26 AM
Well seeing as I am on limited tablets...can I use the soil tablets for just my water? I know that seems like a really stupid question, but I have to ask before I waste anymore.....I am going to get some litmus paper so I can be a little more free -don't know when, soon-...BUT, seeing as I have 7 tablets left, shouldn't I test my water ONLY and get it ph'd (don't know how many testings this will take)....Then worry about the current soil? If not, please advise. Thanks for replying Shovelhandle, S
Bree1978
12-05-2006, 03:32 PM
Here is a pic of the results....One on left is my water. One on right is my soil taken with distilled water. Someone please advise what I should do at this point. Thanks! S
Bree1978
12-06-2006, 03:32 PM
Things are looking up. Ph'd water did the trick, the leaves look real happy today (were all twisted especially Ava). Lst'd yesterday. Going to spend some moolah and make a flower room, still going to be cheap lights, lol, but perpetual...Here are some pics...Peek-a-boo Dr. P! Happy days to you!
Bree1978
12-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Hey I updated the other thread but I might as well throw a better pic in here of Isabella! Preflower hairs popping in a couple places...meanwhile the little sisters are exploding with growth. Ava and Bea are about to show what sex they are.... Cee-cee, being the runt since the beginning, not as close. I don't think I'll veg for anymore than two weeks more seeing as I am using floros. Also going to repot Isa, then once over the transplant, flower. Enjoy the pic...happy tokin on a friday!
harris7
12-08-2006, 05:44 PM
Here is a pic of the results....One on left is my water. One on right is my soil taken with distilled water. Someone please advise what I should do at this point. Thanks! S
why is your tap water green?
anyways. if you run water through the soil and it comes out yellow or dark orange you probably have a salt buildup problem.
if you think you have a salt buildup problem you should flush, i like to soak the plants for 15-20 min in the bath tub.
Then i like to give them some 1/4 strength fish emulsion, 1 L per 1 L of soil.
since you soak them you'll find you dont need to run as much water though, but there is no harm in doing it
lots of pro growers suggest flushing every 4 weeks to prevent such a build up.
Bree1978
12-08-2006, 06:07 PM
why is your tap water green?
anyways. if you run water through the soil and it comes out yellow or dark orange you probably have a salt buildup problem.
if you think you have a salt buildup problem you should flush, i like to soak the plants for 15-20 min in the bath tub.
Then i like to give them some 1/4 strength fish emulsion, 1 L per 1 L of soil.
since you soak them you'll find you dont need to run as much water though, but there is no harm in doing it
lots of pro growers suggest flushing every 4 weeks to prevent such a build up.
Thanks for replying harris7. My water is green because I added a tablet to see the ph of it. I got the yellow one from taking a soil sample 1/2 way down one of my planters and following the directions in my booklet from soilmaster. Not sure if my water was the cause of it being yellow.... Then being confused on what to do I: gave an extremely good watering with distilled, then watered just a little of my ph'd water. WHY you asK? Distilled flushed it, then my ph'd water gave it iron, calcium, and other needed micronutrients. Here is a gallon of distilled water next to a bottle of my well water. As you can see, my water IS YELLOW! And it leaves everything orange in it's wake. it's terrible, it stains all my clothes, I have to clean my toilet everyday, and my bathtub needs a weekly scrubbing due to the high content of minerals in it, mostly iron. I should have mentioned this earlier in the log, eh? I've also included a pic to see how much better they are doing since the last watering. Again if you think there is some better method I am all ears, er um eyes. THanks!
Weedhound
12-08-2006, 06:13 PM
wow is that rust or sulphur or?? No wonder you have ph probs. What a great example of the difference between types of water. Do you get water from a well or public system?
Bree1978
12-08-2006, 06:15 PM
wow is that rust or sulphur or?? No wonder you have ph probs. What a great example of the difference between types of water. Do you get water from a well or public system?
You're telling me! It's a well. It's iron/rust. It leaves a sticky greasy film on everything....BLECH!
Shovelhandle
12-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Wow,
what were the Ph measurements (on the color scale?) My scale may be different from your reagent test.
I have mineral water with a little iron. I have a water softener (works miracles) I don't have to use the iron pellets in the regen tank.
If you let your well water stand a day of so, will the minerals settle out?
Otherwise you may want to get some water for your plants from another source.
Shovelhandle
Good luck, it looks like you're doing well.
Weedhound
12-09-2006, 02:46 AM
I know from my well it doesn't matter how long things sit--they are always there--waiting. I gave up and went to RO water a long time ago and am so happy I did. And be assured my well water looks a LOT better than Bree's.
PS I also tried a water softener (Pur) but it didn't help at all. Anyone want to buy a water softener--cheap?
Bree1978
12-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Hey thanks for the responses! If I'd have known, I'd replied quicker. To answer q's. My ph wasn't incredibly off...and it does settle, but it is always waiting like weedhound mentioned. In the above pic if you look at the bottom of the jug, you can see that the is orange 'settled'. I have a water softner, but the water shown in the pic is from my outside spigout (sp?), directly from well. My softner just adds salt, so I don't use that water. Do you have to use cal-mag supplements with R/O water? What about ph'd spring water?
Now, to tell you why I am now using gloves to touch my plants.....grr.....there was some BIG BRIGHT RED WASP/ANT in there! That sucker looked like it could have killed me! It's stinger was as big as it's butt! I am in the north, so I don't know how the heck I got this thing in there...probably from the soil?????? I'm terrified, as you can tell. I wish that I got a pic of it....I still have the heebeegeebee's....
Well since I made you all look, I'll share some photos of 35 days. Or is it 36? I accicentally super cropped Cee-cee from my string being too tight. I repotted Isabella, she's in the white container (remember she is three weeks older than the others). Ava looks all weird and twisted, but you can't tell in the pic. I think it is caused by the heat. Bea looks GREAT! Excuse the orange looking shower, we've discussed why it looks that way, lol. Enjoy the photos, and if anyone knows what that ant looking thing was, let me know. I did a search, and all I found was the cow killer wasp...but this creature I saw was not hairy so I don't if that was it or not. Happy tokin!
Weedhound
12-11-2006, 05:57 PM
Must be quite the wasp to take down a cow!! Yes, you do need a supplement for RO water--I'm not sure if there are things you can use instead (ie: epsom salts etc) but might be worth asking. I hate to say this but I asked somebody that same question about using spring water and was told not to but I was stoned at the time and I don't remember why. Sorry!
PS Your plants look great!!
Bree1978
12-14-2006, 06:42 PM
Must be quite the wasp to take down a cow!!
PS Your plants look great!!
Thanks Weedhound! I really appreciate the compliment! I think that bug was from my christmas tree actually...haven't seen another one since I wrote about it, thank goodness. Today is day 38....You're gonna all laugh, I've accidentally super cropped all of my plants, from tying them too tight....I know, I know, you ask "how can it be an accident three times????" My answer simply put "I'm the most clumsy person to ever walk the earth....then magnify that personality trait by being stoned and/or inebriated...." I'm going to have to take a course in knot tying....or in the least make sure I am completely sober while fiddling with my plants! on to the update: I think I found a hair on Ava....I am going to flower within the next few days because these puppies are getting way to large for this area! On a sad note, I won't have many bud porn pics to post...I won't go in to detail why...but I'll get back as much as possible. Enjoy the photos...they may be the last ones before these gals/guys become grownups! BTW- I purposefully stretched them so I could shoot some of my cfl light under the canopy, instead of tying down and snapping again grrr...I still think they look terrific! The pic of the single plant is Ava, the one I think may be a girl. Happy DAYS!!!
Weedhound
12-14-2006, 08:16 PM
They do look great. If you think they are large now wait until you put them into flower......they'll go nuts! (no pun intended)
Bree1978
12-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Well here is an update....I just put Cee-cee and Isabella into flowering today. I really wanted to do it sooner, but with the holidays, it was impossible to do so. Ava reveled to be really Arsen and Bea was Benedict, so they've been drying in a sack for about a week. It was so obvious that they were males, can't believe I thought Arsen to be female. Both Isabella and Cee-cee are having slight probs with mg and calcium (I think, I have to research in a little bit)...I think it's those since I began to use RO water as instructed...I fed as well and I thought that since Miracle Grow All purpose has trace elements it would be okay without supplements, I figure I wasn't using enough (?) don't know, in the midst of solving that problem.....Enjoy the pics of the two ladies and bid adieu, for they are now in flowering...also included, pic of the next generation that has been basically ignored the first three days of life, hence thier sad appearance...Happy Tokin on hump day. B
Bree1978
12-27-2006, 06:34 PM
After a quick look see, I have N, P(only on one leaf), and Mg def.'s....wasn't feeding them enough for fear of burning them, lol! Should be easy to fix, have a great day again!
virgin-grower21
12-27-2006, 09:34 PM
looking gd bree also thanx for the link it was most helpfull keep us updated with pic's i'll keep following this thread. i just took 9 clones off my girl so hopefuly they will all be nice and healthy ne way laters
Bree1978
12-28-2006, 06:47 AM
Garden Known where are you? I'd love for you to bless my thead! :p B
I feel like a looser, not to be cliche....every last post right now is me, and Im a neeeeeeeeeeeeeewb...................B
babystarbud
12-28-2006, 07:24 AM
just found this thread...lol i browse these boards in a fairly random fasion ;)
well done, they look pretty good to me, keep it up.
i know every one says this, but its true, dont over do things, its too easy to try to fix somthing that wasnt really broken in the first place, i havent read the whole thread, but the last few pics look perfectly healthy to me.
and dont get me started on PH testers...lol, ive got 2 cheap probe type testers because i just dont trust the bloody things!!! at least i know if they both read the same then they *should* be right lol
Bree1978
12-28-2006, 07:57 AM
just found this thread...lol i browse these boards in a fairly random fasion ;)
well done, they look pretty good to me, keep it up.
i know every one says this, but its true, dont over do things, its too easy to try to fix somthing that wasnt really broken in the first place, i havent read the whole thread, but the last few pics look perfectly healthy to me.
and dont get me started on PH testers...lol, ive got 2 cheap probe type testers because i just dont trust the bloody things!!! at least i know if they both read the same then they *should* be right lol
Yah they look healthy in the far away pics...but having start of def...ANd yes, i am still utterly confused about the testers....grrr......grrrr....I should just buck up and spend fourty USD........grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... thanks for gracing my thread BSB..or babystarbud...any other comments are welcome I've been following your thread (can't spread anymore rep, loved to see you turn your batch around)
and Virgin Grower, can't wait to see how the clones turn out, I myself am going to venture that way this grow
kindprincess
12-28-2006, 09:03 AM
hi bree, believe it or not, this is the first time i've seen this thread... i just read through, and wish to ask: are you using mg all purpose 24-8-16? if so, i'd like to tell you that my plants will take it at full strength with no probs for three feedings, but then they like to leach out a little. sounds strange, but i couldn't get my colouration right until i upped to full strength, then the exploded! it was quite the miracle:) anyway, i also wanted to suggest greenlight's superbloom for flower. it is a super phosphate product, and increases yeild dramatically.
what type of lights are you going to use for flower? things are looking great so far, and i'm looking forward to watching cee cee and isabella grow their hair out, lol. take care
love, kp:p
ps, i'll tell gk you're looking for him;)
Bree1978
12-28-2006, 09:21 AM
hi bree, believe it or not, this is the first time i've seen this thread... i just read through, and wish to ask: are you using mg all purpose 24-8-16? if so, i'd like to tell you that my plants will take it at full strength with no probs for three feedings, but then they like to leach out a little. sounds strange, but i couldn't get my colouration right until i upped to full strength, then the exploded! it was quite the miracle:) anyway, i also wanted to suggest greenlight's superbloom for flower. it is a super phosphate product, and increases yeild dramatically.
what type of lights are you going to use for flower? things are looking great so far, and i'm looking forward to watching cee cee and isabella grow their hair out, lol. take care
love, kp:p
ps, i'll tell gk you're looking for him;)
Thanks kp for the info! I in fact am using said product and have up til this point been using 1/4 stregnth...blush...too little.now the next water I will give a good dosing of RO, followed by Full stregnth mg, ap...if WRONG let me know, I have a day or two to figure all possiblities...I am going to use kitchen and bath bulbs and cfls soft white per your previous posts (thank you) for flowering. Wow you are the second person to mention seeing this thread for the first time...well I appreciate all comments and suggestions...That is WHY I think this grow is really going well for a first try..... on floros no less.... Thank you KP, I feel we share a special bond! Ps bought MG's Bloom No good? Advice? I'd imagine that SuperBloom is at Lowes.....make the exchange, eh? B
Yes I'm lookin for you GK........................?
babystarbud
12-28-2006, 09:21 AM
bree, going by that last pic you have one single dodgy looking leaf, and all your new growth looks fine, its nothing to worry about....chill!!
babystarbud
12-28-2006, 09:22 AM
the worst thing you can do is panic and make it worse.
Bree1978
12-28-2006, 09:25 AM
yah you are probably right, I do tend to overanalyze, but then again, if I don't it isn't worth doing...damn me....meh.....eh? LOL...getting late, thank you...:)
Garden Knowm
12-29-2006, 09:38 AM
KIND PRINCESS was kind enough to send me to yur wonderful thread..
I did not read it.. yet.. it is 1:40 AM... bvut I did look at the pictures and they are yummy
I hope you are FLOWERING.. those biotchs are HUGE....
VERY OBVIOUS you started from seed. correct?
iloveyou
see you soon!
kindprincess
12-29-2006, 12:03 PM
Thanks kp for the info! I in fact am using said product and have up til this point been using 1/4 stregnth...blush...too little.now the next water I will give a good dosing of RO, followed by Full stregnth mg, ap...if WRONG let me know, I have a day or two to figure all possiblities...I am going to use kitchen and bath bulbs and cfls soft white per your previous posts (thank you) for flowering. Wow you are the second person to mention seeing this thread for the first time...well I appreciate all comments and suggestions...That is WHY I think this grow is really going well for a first try..... on floros no less.... Thank you KP, I feel we share a special bond! Ps bought MG's Bloom No good? Advice? I'd imagine that SuperBloom is at Lowes.....make the exchange, eh? B
Yes I'm lookin for you GK........................?
i haven't made it through the new posts yet, but, don't go straight to full strength... if you've been using 1/4 strength, go up to half, then 3/4, then full, ease into it, just in case...
sorry for the confusion...
kp:p
kindprincess
12-29-2006, 12:07 PM
ah, i see the knowm has graced your thread... like i said, work up with nutes, it's better to be safe than sorry... i just wanted to let you know that mg goes good full strength, in my experience, but i'd hate to be responsible for an accidental burn, so...
hope this helps:) oh, and what lighting will you be using for flower?
kp:p
ps, over analysis is not necesarily a bad thing;)
Bree1978
12-31-2006, 03:30 PM
Thanks kp. I did as you said and gave the ladies 1/2 stregnth this feeding. I didn't take any new pics, because there is nothing different about them execept the defs are slightly worse, but that I expected. The flower room is in another house, hard to get over there to take pics....I started flowering the last post I made, with Kitchen and Bath CFTs...and four 23wt soft white cfls. I have four more bulbs but haven't bought any more reflectors yet. I bought an ionizer instead, since they are stinking up the whole house, lol. Thank you again bsb, kp, gk! GK, yes they are flowering and hopefully I will still get something with them even with the crummy lighting (I realize I waited a little to long to flower :(). B
kindprincess
12-31-2006, 04:31 PM
you're ok for the wait, however, your buds will be quite airy and small, flo's work, just not as well... let me see if i can come up with something for you... i've a friend that has lots of old mh lights (400w) that he doesn't use anymore... the only prob is i have to climb a realy tall ladder, and take them down myself. with shaking probs, that's a little scary. those things are EXTREMELY HEAVY!! but if i can get one, i'd be happy to pass it on... you'd have to get some solarmax gold bulbs though... could you do your own wiring from a detailed description and diagram?
kp
Bree1978
12-31-2006, 07:52 PM
Yeah I can probably wire something, with the help you spoke of course. I've done some household wiring before. Also, I have a man around that could probably help too...no promises lol. I wonder how far apart are we, for shipping or meeting. How can we exchange addies? I know it's against forum rules. Don't break your neck if you do, in fact, decide to climb up on that ladder...I hate going up in my attic with a ladder just to get christmas decorations! I'm also extremely shaky, not to mention uncoordinated (see earlier posts about fimming all my plants, lol)!! I'm not familiar with the bulbs you spoke of, but I am assuming they are some kind of conversion HPS bulb for a MH ballast? Well, I got to make appetizers and food for the party....Happy Tokin in the New Year everyone :rastasmoke: !
Garden Knowm
01-01-2007, 01:39 AM
hey BREE.. what is "DL"
lovelovelove
Bree1978
01-01-2007, 08:19 AM
? I know what I think it means.........but am I reading it in the wrong context? Or are you referring to something a hick girl wouldn't know? HAPPY new year GK! B
kindprincess
01-01-2007, 01:30 PM
the knowm is always mysterious, that's part of his charm;) (idk what dl is either... down low?)
the bulbs i spoke of are mh bulbs, but they put out much more red spec than other halides....
http://www.specialty-lights.com/solarmax-400-gold.html
that link is the kind of bulbs i'm talking about... drop me a line...
kindprincesss (three s's) at yahoo
Bree1978
01-02-2007, 03:51 PM
Well had to move the ladies again. Won't explain, but will give a peek at how they are doing. They've been in flower 6 days. The def's have gotten a lot better, although I have been taking off the yellow ones. Which hasn't been many. Talk to you soon KP. Gotta run, haven't caught up with moving things around, grr. B
mc-blaze21
01-02-2007, 06:01 PM
looking gd bree keep it up!
kindprincess
01-04-2007, 02:51 AM
sorry, too lazy to backtrack right now, what strain/s is/are that/those?
ps, blueberry is kickass;)
love, kp:p
Bree1978
01-04-2007, 03:01 PM
KP- they are both bagseed. Isabella's seed was thrown into one of my houseplants (not by me, don't know who put it there) and I began trying to save her. After two and half weeks of nothing, I came online and started reading....Thinking she could never survive after all the stress, I planted three more of some bag that was pretty good, and I could tell that it had been harvested too early....or grown weird because the buds were tiny....but the smoke was smooth.
mc- Thanks for the compliment, sorry you had to rip your op down....I can understand though! Thanks for stoppping by!
I've included a pic of my set up, to show you that I don't have a surplus of room, the pic was taken by opening the door and standing back, HA!....I can't even move my lights up anymore because of that pipe in there...Now that I had to move them to there, I don't think I can go HID. I have to be able to clean my set up lickety split, if the need arises. Again, keep in mind this was not well thought out since I didn't plan on it!
Blueberry you say? Where do you get your beans? I'd like to try something better next go around. THanks for stopping in and being so helpful.
To the other readers: I've also included a pic of Cee-cee close up 8dys into flower, She has four of these bigger colas going on, and some smaller ones. Although I don't have a pic right now, Isabella has one MAJOR cola going on and some small ones that will probably produce near nothing, we'll see. If you remember, Cee-cee was fimmed (in true form, not planned) and Isabella was not. Also, for all those wondering about smoking males: Yes they can give you a buzz...if you have a low tolerance, and you smoke a butt-ton. These males were from veg. not flower. I definitley wouldn't break it out for your friends either, it tastes of nasty! Happy Tokin' on a Thursday! B
Bree1978
01-04-2007, 03:06 PM
I messed up that last post pretty bad, sorry guys!
kindprincess
01-05-2007, 12:45 AM
hey bree, do you have email?
Bree1978
01-05-2007, 12:56 AM
You've got mail :jointsmile: B
brookerosebud
01-05-2007, 01:17 AM
good thread bree!
kindprincess
01-05-2007, 01:19 AM
hmmm, didn't go through...
kindprincesss (three s's) at yahoo...
Bree1978
01-05-2007, 01:40 AM
KP, must be slow, it was typed right and wasnt sent back.....so you will have mail? lol.
Thank you for the compliment brookerosebud! Thanks for coming in, B.
kindprincess
01-05-2007, 02:39 AM
aha! now i've got mail!
Bree1978
01-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Hello all here we are at two weeks into flower. I have a resident assassin bug that has been in there for about a week....hope he stays but I don't have many bugs in there to keep him satisfied......sigh. This is not the same bug that was in there during Christmas...I think maybe the Assassin ate the other one...Also, gave the ladies first dose of bloom nutes yesterday. As you can see in the last two pics, I waited a bit too much for the watering. Goin to add those two other lights I have in the next week...tired of rotating the girls!! Happy tokin on a Thursday. B:jointsmile:
kindprincess
01-12-2007, 01:18 AM
looking good bree, deff a nice start :thumbsup:
Bodom Children Of
01-12-2007, 03:28 PM
Lookin' good! :jointsmile:
Buds gunna be getting huge soon!:p
Garden Knowm
01-13-2007, 04:30 AM
I thought I saw YOU use the term DL?
iloveyou
Bree1978
01-13-2007, 04:41 PM
KP- Thanks for commenting, I hope it keeps going well...I am impatient:D
Bodom- I am hoping they fatten up with these lights, like yours did..some of the ones on Isabella are really wispy looking, I don't know what I can do about that other than what is, is. Or what it be, it be. I loved the completion of your grow, I'll pop over there in a little bit to see if you have posted final weight.
GK- Oh mysterious one, I looked at my past posts and I didnt see where I used the term DL? Maybe it was someone else or a typo.......If I had used it, it would have been on the down low.
Now that I am two 1/2 weeks of flowering, will vertical growth be minimal?
Do any of you stake your plants?
I can't post anymore without putting a few pics on..lol Here is a pic of a stringy bud, a pic of one that is filling in nicely, and for those artsy people out there, I really just liked the last one ;) .
THanks everyone for not making me feel alone!
Happy Growin and Tokin :jointsmile:
Garden Knowm
01-15-2007, 12:31 AM
Now that I am two 1/2 weeks of flowering, will vertical growth be minimal?
:
yes the growth should be minimal.. you may have 3-4 more days of vertical growth...
nice pics!
iloveyou
mc-blaze21
01-15-2007, 03:53 PM
ello well i have to say its looking really well. thanks for the rep as well nuff respect to u. any way i have a question ur side lighting is it just cfl or is there a different bulb in side? any way i'll leave u to it take care and speak soon laters every one peace!
Bree1978
01-17-2007, 07:55 PM
Hey yall, I'm moving kinda slow today (i am the canadian bear....had to much Labatt's last night, HA) but things are happening in the closet....lol. I'll just post some pics to let you see....
mc-blaze21- yes those are just CFL's. I have six now...since I already have two more bulbs, I am going to have eight once I have the reflectors. THey are only 23w 1600lu a piece....
GK- you hit it on the head with just a few more days of growth...I watered and they shot up a little, but have leveled off like you said.....now just happy little budding plants.
My assassin bug committed suicide, I saw him floating in my water bucket the other day....must have been real thirsty! The next day I was making coffee and I saw another little guy running across the counter, and I scooped him up with a spoon and put him in the room...so far so good. Unfortunately if you know anything about assassin bugs, they love dusty places. Therefore, I must not be as good a housekeeper as I had previously thought! I'm going to blame it on the heater running, pushing the dust out of the duct work around the house.....I've never had that cleaned, must be time after living here for 7 years...........Anywhoo on to the pics, Enjoy! Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile:
Bree1978
01-17-2007, 07:59 PM
If you notice Isabella looks like bud on a stick in most places...don't know if that was due to poor growing conditions in the beginning of her life or the strain....B
PaBudsX420X
01-17-2007, 09:36 PM
hey bree, just have a quick questio for ya. my veg room has all cfls. i was wonderin how much your plants grew in height since you put them into bud. my flowering room has a 400w hps unit so i know they are gonna get bigger than cfls can get them but i jut wanted a rough number so i can guestamate how big mine may get. thanks
Bree1978
01-17-2007, 10:47 PM
hey bree, just have a quick questio for ya. my veg room has all cfls. i was wonderin how much your plants grew in height since you put them into bud. my flowering room has a 400w hps unit so i know they are gonna get bigger than cfls can get them but i jut wanted a rough number so i can guestamate how big mine may get. thanks
I don't know really, since I tie them down. I didn't mesure :o . Guessing, I'd say they doubled in height...which I didn't even realize until I started comparing the photos! I'll include a pic of day of first flower -which was already in the log-and pic of today with soda can for size reference. Again please note they have had a lot of Bondage to be in this little area. If you are worried about height I've seen some people use thier blue spec (in your case cfl 6500K if you have them) in addition to thier red spec in the first few weeks of flower to help alleviate the problem. I think I may do this with the LST on my next grow. Hope that helped a little, thanks for stopping by. Do you have a log? Good Luck, Bree.
First pic is from 12-27, other two are from today.
Bree1978
01-25-2007, 06:30 PM
Actually pics taken 29 days of flower. Now have all 8 lights, turning the side lights into the main lights and using the fixture as a way to hold lights, lol... I also tore off all the tape and drilled holes in the lip so I could use bows from now on. MUch neater looking. Also watered with blackstap molasses/water today. Starting to see trichs. Isabella has more than Cee-cee. Isabella is a very lanky fussy plant...tiny little buds on her..Enjoy the pics, Happy Growin and Tokin...:jointsmile: B
First two are of Isabella (104 days from seed approx.), the last two are of Cee-cee (81 days from seed).
Garden Knowm
01-26-2007, 06:17 PM
NICE GROW.... looks a little over fed... especially picture 3...
iloveyou
Bree1978
01-26-2007, 09:12 PM
NICE GROW.... looks a little over fed... especially picture 3...
iloveyou
thank you, and what should I do? I didn't feed last water (which was yesterday)....except the blackstrap molasses...does that contain N? I thought if it did it would be in very small amounts...My bloom fert is 15-30-15, what concentration should I use, and at what time considering I have been flowering for 30 days? I am using R/O water with no Cal-Mag supplement (spring is almost here, and I'll be able to find!!), so I have been having a hard time putting the fertilizers down since the change......I think it was you who said that Miracal Grow ferts are like ferts for dummies.............:o I guess that makes me less than a dummy? :eek: OH NO !!! I can use epsom salts for the Mg, but what about the calcium? Thanks for your help, I would sure like to Knowm......:jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
01-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Well, I decided to just water with plain R/O. I didn't even give them blackstrap. I also heavily watered because I think I had salt build-up. The N was too high (leaves are curled down like ram horns), I hope that I didn't stunt thier growth...I know it's bad to have too much N this late in flowering, :mad: Grrr! I also got a microscope today.....some of the trichs seemed to be amber already? I didn't think this was possible.....?
I am participating in a several log competition seen here: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/100804-womens-war-battle-buds.html
Enjoy the photos! Anyone know about the trichs???? Thanks for following the drama!! Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
01-31-2007, 09:26 PM
And a few More
5 weeks/35 days of flower, Cee-cee 87 days from seed, Isabella 110 days from seed.:jointsmile:
Garden Knowm
02-01-2007, 08:12 AM
GREAT JOB BREE....
yes watering with just straight water is good.. until you think they need more NUTRIENTS...
Those leaves are SO FREAKING YUMMY!!
Bree1978
02-02-2007, 03:55 AM
Just the leaves???? lol...thank you for your help (thank SeeMore for me?) :stoned: :jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
02-05-2007, 04:56 AM
GK, do you have any advice about my newly aquired light? Ii is dual lamp 800w total pic in the women's thread Bree
Garden Knowm
02-05-2007, 09:37 PM
link me please.. iloveyou
Bree1978
02-06-2007, 01:53 PM
I'll do one better and show you a pic. YEAH, It works! Any advise? :jointsmile: Bree
Garden Knowm
02-07-2007, 06:42 AM
Hi BREE...
wow... it is 2 lights... one 400HPS and one 400 MH.. correct?
I have never seen that.... silly me..
If you could move that light around your garden.. it would be ideal.. Ideally it would rotate in a circle.. giving the plants both equal HPS and MH time...
Even a LINEAR light mover would be GOOD..
thanx for the pic... :)
Bree1978
02-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Hi BREE...
wow... it is 2 lights... one 400HPS and one 400 MH.. correct?
I have never seen that.... silly me..
If you could move that light around your garden.. it would be ideal.. Ideally it would rotate in a circle.. giving the plants both equal HPS and MH time...
Even a LINEAR light mover would be GOOD..
thanx for the pic... :)
Yes, it is both MH and HPS. Light, mover lol....space is too tight...still only going to do a few tomatoes. [attachment=o117423] I'll have to get off my lazy duff and move them frequently. That is something to bring to my attention...!
Here are some pics of 6weeks, 42 days of flowering. By the trichs, I think I still have few weeks left. They looked pretty similar to the last ck, although I found a few ambers on Cee-cee which I had not before. I don't know if they look much different than last week...other than many more yellow leaves HA. I watered them with a little epsom (tiny bit) and about 1/16 of a feeding of 15-30-15. I doubt that would do much... They look a little wilted because they were thirsty. Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
02-07-2007, 05:03 PM
Enjoy!
I forgot to mention, although I do not have a pic of it, some of the buds are turning pink. This apparently is caused by CFL lighting.........
Bree1978
02-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Okay I'll just put some pics...I was going to feed them a little but was advised not to http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/103016-feed-not-feed-grr.html.
I also got my light working kinda (not optimal though) Enjoy, Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
PS....I hope you return to us GK when your ban is over, I miss you!
Crumb, forgot to add I did water with blackstrap molassess....
Shovelhandle
02-14-2007, 05:19 PM
My grow is also in it's 7th week of flowering. Some plants are still producing buds and pistils and a couple look very done, with all red hairs. Trics seem the same on all the plants though. Last I checked they were mostly clear. I check again maybe today or tomorrow. I have been flushing for a couple of weeks but the flowers that are still producing don't seem to notice any deficiency in the nutes.
Bree, your buds are looking lovely but I think that they may have a couple of weeks still the way they are growing and the all white hairs and dark green leaves. Check the trycs all over your plants, top and bottom.
Pink Slippers? Nice!
Shov
Bree1978
02-14-2007, 05:53 PM
Thanks for coming in again Shov...and for your thoughts. I am thinking the same thing- about a few weeks to go....Isabella does infact have more straggly brown hairs....I was just cking the trichs from tops, thanks for that too....I was thinking of doing a gradual harvest since the under the canopy the hairs on cee-cee are quite white.
I looked at your log, and yours are looking much better than mine, lol!
Do you think that putting under this HPS will speed it up? I think the combo of overfert and CFL's is making them take longer...
And I have the tops about two feet from the light right now (first day), when do you think that I could move it closer? I was under 19,000 lu before (again floros, so I don't know how much they were getting really), now I'd imagine I've got around 50,000lu.
:jointsmile: Bree
And the slippers match my old lady house robe, lol. Ugly yes? but oh soooooooo comfie ;)
Bree1978
02-21-2007, 03:21 AM
Just one day shy of 8 weeks flowering, Isabella is now hanging and drying. When I ckd trichs today, at least 20% was amber and some were also bent over like little old ladies....so!
Some of these buds are so pitiful. However, I think the plant, put in the proper perspective of course, did really well! I never really decided to plant her....and I'm sure whoever did would be surprised to see what that seed grew into! Enjoy the photos, and I'll post weight once dried. Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
02-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Here is Cee-cee after 8 wks of flower. Her trichs are about 5% amber, so I know it won't be long!
:jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
02-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Isabella came in at 43g. [attachment=o121629] I was hasty in the manicuring, which I won't do again, but I'm happy. She had infact hermied[attachment=o121631], I found about 10 seeds..most of them being underdeveloped. I think that is maybe why she started showing advanced staged trichs so fast (I read on here that when the female is fertilized, she stops making resin and the THC begins degrading rapidly). I wish I would have stopped feeding her earlier...the buds are pretty green (not as green as some of the pics, bad lighting in kitch), BUT meh, the smoke is good. Happy Tokin' and Growin' :jointsmile: Bree
[attachment=o121630] Please don't razz me about these jars, lol!
I'll update Cee-cee in two days, she has had a lot of leaf loss, but her trichs have stayed the same so far....I'm trying to erradicate any light leaks in lieu of this fact. B
Bree1978
02-28-2007, 04:21 PM
lol. I know you fine people are reading, even if you are not commenting! Well, here is what is going on today...I haven't found any more ambers on cc...I doubt it's even five percent like I stated earlier...sigh. I decided yesterday that she's gotta be done in the next week to ten days, so I gave her a major flush. Isabella is too green and I don't ever want to make that mistake again. I think I can taste chemicals, but that may be due to the fact that she is not cured. Despite of this, I keep happily tokin' on her.......BIG NEWS! I have the whole 800w running now, although the temps are higher than I'd like (81.5)and it is so NOT stealth that it's ridiculous. I haven't attempted to close the door. I got a new tower fan and that helped a lot. I did build the table for the room, but I have to paint it and I think I'm going to drill holes in it so that air can move around in there...you'll just have to see once I have it installed. I'm going to paint hopefully this weekend. I also have to tack some kind of covering over the door, for someday, God willing, I will be able to close that door (I don't want people walking by the door and able to see the light through the cracks). I keep kicking around the idea of getting the 172 CFM vortex 4in to vent the hood. I don't know if this is overkill. I don't know if I am going to make a scrubber that is with the air cooling vent...I also would like whatever I use to be kinda quiet. Here is something comical- I went to get my glass cut for my hood, and my stoner self forgot the measurements! This makes it mandatory to measure twice and cut once! Just so you know, that wasn't the only reason I went to the store.
All in all, I think CC seems to keep packing on weight, I'm secretly hoping she'll add even more trichs now that I have the MH running too, not that they'd be all that mature, but I'd like to see the MH addition and if it gives results this late in the game....Jeez, I feel chatty today, thanks for reading...Enjoy the photos! Happy Tokin' and Growin' :jointsmile: Bree
Bree1978
02-28-2007, 04:25 PM
I just had a funny thought.........I'm running 800w for one plant............ha ha ha what an overkill.....Like I said, I feel chatty. Enjoy your day.
Mrs. Greenjeans
02-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Wow you lucky girl! Look at all that goodness!
Bree1978
02-28-2007, 04:42 PM
Thanks, Mrs. G! I can't wait to see what MONSTERS you are going to have (I'm sure I'll still be green with envy)! :jointsmile: Bree
Mrs. Greenjeans
02-28-2007, 04:48 PM
I don't think mine are going to be monsters. I'll be surprised if I pull a solid ounce off this first grow. Next grow will be better. I'll be in my new house, and have more room and time to devote.
canuck grower
02-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Hey Bree, I didn't even realize this was your log! I thought it was strange that a light question was so popular... I should've clued in when it was moved in here, into the grow log section! I'm such a typical stoner sometimes. :rastasmoke:
Anyway, CC looks nice. And you just had CFLs until recently? Great job!
I just finished toking the last of one of my girls today as well ... she'd been curing for weeks now and it was definitely the tastiest nug I smoked of her... before she was a bit harsh and we flushed her for 2 weeks. She dried quickly though, she was fairly green.
I guess I'm feeling pretty chatty today as well. :) I'm looking forward to seeing CC harvested. -c :jointsmile:
Bree1978
03-08-2007, 02:18 PM
Thanks for coming into the thread canuck, and for the kind words!
I know you guys and gals were hoping for harvest pics BUUUUUUUUUUUT, CC still isn't done, she is a hermie,...plus that day I had the MH she got radiant heat burn....the story just keeps getting better huh? Every sample had at least one red trich...should I water her again or keep her thirsty? Please someone reply because I have to melt snow right now to water her, lol. I'm not going to town for a few days.
The glass still got measured wrong and I cracked it trying to install it, so I have to buy another one, HA. Like I said it was a bad week for this project....
Going to be busy painting today.
Enjoy the photos! Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
canuck grower
03-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Heh sounds like you are having one of those weeks. Glad you're still smiling!
If you're going to leave her for more than a couple days I would water her... she looks thirsty but maybe it's just because her leaves are going from maturity.
-cg :jointsmile:
Bree1978
03-09-2007, 12:43 PM
Thanks for answering. Yah, the dirt was 'slightly' moist (I ckd after your last post) so I think she looks thirsty cause of the radiant heat burn she had and from major leaf loss...could be why she taking so long too, eh? I'll ck her trich again when the lights come on, if STILL not done I'll trudge out and collect snow. Again, I do appreciate when someone answers my q's! I hate making decisions by myself....lol..sometimes.
TTYS, :jointsmile: Bree
My new fan should be arriving today or on monday...Bree1978 dances a little jig, similar to this one :yippee:
Also, thank you to whoever voted on my log...I noticed I have stars now!! TY!
Bodom Children Of
03-09-2007, 11:20 PM
Plant looks like good smoke even though it is hermie. Best of luck down the home stretch.
Pezzo
03-10-2007, 12:08 AM
unlucky on the last few posts i read. Thx 4 lookin and commentin on my thread.
Upset now as my plants are exactly the same as urs were at 4 weeks (mine are 4 weeks aswell) And this is the part if the grow i was most excited about and i was so lookin fwd to it but now they have to go... 26 days left man!
Anyway i like the way u trained them looks nice well done Bree
Bree1978
03-10-2007, 05:30 AM
Bodom! There you are! I'd thought you had forgotten about me! If you read about the first lady, she was a hermie too, but good smoke. I chopped CC tonight, and although I did not 'find' seeds as of yet I think it will still be decent without too many. Again fingers crossed. Isabella, so far I've found about five seeds...A little better than okay smoke. Didn't even know what was planted on that one....
Pezzo, yes you are right, but more inexperienced made the way for me. I did a lot of dumb newbie mistakes and prob. hermie'd it from that. I hope that your babes that are being taken care of turn out well. Thank you so much for coming in, I appreciate it! Now...here is what we have been waiting for!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trichs were pretty close to 10 percent (a little early but given how long in flower, maybe she is one that her harvest window does not go all on trichs, or that I messed her up-more likely! lol)...so I turned the lights off and harvested eight hours later. I have not trimmed yet. It looks like a very small amout in these pics, BUT I am still hoping to double the weight of Isabella...we'll see!
For all those people like me and new, trichs seems to ripen fast once started....I believe Dutch Pimp said sometimes within a few hours they can change...
Enjoy the photos! Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
Pezzo
03-10-2007, 07:04 PM
what u doin wiv the rrot ball? u have enough leaves on it to grow it again...
Bree1978
03-11-2007, 12:57 PM
what u doin wiv the rrot ball? u have enough leaves on it to grow it again...
That was the plan....however I turned around to load the pics on the pc and when I went back the person helping me chop stripped her. He didn't know of my plan obviously....there's always next time. If it were summer I'd set her ouside and she'd probably still grow*, but since I'm setting up a new area, I'm not going to bother. sigh.
:jointsmile: Bree
*I grow spider flowers, or Cleome hasslerana, which are related to and grow very much like cannabis...you CAN strip them down to just a stump and they will grow again.
canuck grower
03-11-2007, 04:27 PM
There seem to be different mentalities on the subject. Here on c.com people are very adamant about not re-vegging plants and things like that, but on icmag there are people flowering girls for the 2nd or even 3rd time, re-vegging for clones and all sorts of things. There certainly are risks involved (hermies and what not) but there's no question it can be done. It might not be best practice, but shit who cares it's all in good fun. :jointsmile:
Pezzo
03-11-2007, 07:18 PM
shame, i know some plants can root and take a foothold with just the leaves and some can generate leaves from just the roots... Does cannabis need both roots and leaves to get it started? then again clones are just leaves so i suppose my question is can u grow it from the root ball?
Bree1978
03-11-2007, 08:36 PM
shame, i know some plants can root and take a foothold with just the leaves and some can generate leaves from just the roots... Does cannabis need both roots and leaves to get it started? then again clones are just leaves so i suppose my question is can u grow it from the root ball?
I'd imagine so. Here are some pics of Isabella, who was completely stripped clean...not watered since her harvest two and a half weeks ago....IN A CLOSET CHILLIN WITH NO LIGHT, barring when I open the closet to change.....[attachment=o124090]
[attachment=o124091]
:jointsmile: Bree
TheGreenFog
03-12-2007, 02:46 PM
Hey, Bree. I haven't stopped by in a while. Just thought I'd drop a line. I HAVE been watching, though. It's quite a bummer about the issues you've had recently, but like you said, it's good stuff to learn by, and you didn't RUIN anything. Still got some delicious bud.
Let me know what it smells like when you are curing it. I've got a suspicion that hermie bud smells much different than non-hermie bud during the curing stage. Let me know. :D
That's a COOL little dry box you got there. I like the set up. I'm sure you are turning the buds so they don't always stay on one side, right? :D Maybe try running some string across the box in lines about 1/2 way up and laying the buds on there so you don't have to go back and turn them so often. That fan is blowing OUT of the box, right? :)
Regarding the reveg, it's like ~canuck~ said, it' s not a favored practice, at least not on this site, but it can be done, and if it is a very stable strain that is not prone to hermie-ism, then, it can work just fine.
What's next on the agenda? You said something about doing a bit larger grow this time so you can get a good amount of bud and then 'pack it in for a while,' right? What ya gonna grow? Are you going to change your setup?
Sorry for such a long post, but I haven't been around for a while, so I guess I had a lot to say. :o
Be cool, Bree.
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Bree1978
03-12-2007, 03:33 PM
Hey fog! I think you are right about the smell....but I have no base to compare it to. Both my plants hermied, and the smell was kinda sickly sweet-not good. Almost like alfalfa, if you are familiar with that smell, best desciption I can think of. I swear that I could smell it weeks ago (but didn't think much of it at the time), probably when the jizz got out, lol.
About my nice little box (been awhile since someone commented on my 'box', teehee)...No I haven't been turning them, believe it or not, there is fishing line already in there halfway up. [attachment=o124235] It is invisible line...I like to fish, so I already had it laying around. It's a little slack, but I have time to work on it. Yes, the fan is blowing out!
In concern about revegging...since both my plants hermied (I keep bringing up that fact, I know) I'm not real worried about it. I just haven't thrown them out because they are good little indicators while I'm setting up the new room...
As for the new set up, I've included some pics of it, although hard to do cuz it's such a tight space....I've been sweaty all weekend fiddling with this....[attachment=o124236]
[attachment=o124229]
Fog and everyone look at the pics, and tell me how you'd set up the venting and scrubber (I'll have a 465CFM Vortex fan for extraction/cooling/scrubber) [attachment=o124227] As you can see I don't have a surplus of room. I want to make a DIY scrubber...should I make Bodom's and put it at the end of the tube in the attic? Or should I try to contain it before the fan? Remember this fan is supposed to be cooling the room and making it smell decent...lol. I'm also planning on installing a dimmer switch where the light switch is since it is tied into the fan.
I don't think I'll have good seeds for the grow, I'll have to make do with with bagseed. So I'm probably asking for hermies but, I don't have a safe addy....and I think it would be a red flag setting up PO box...
Anyways....Enjoy the photos and thanks for your help.
dusto2k3
03-12-2007, 03:35 PM
is that the poop fan that your replacing with that vortex?. LoL
Bree1978
03-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Yes, there you are. I was going to link you to it. For some reason I can't post pics in growroom set up. What's your thoughts? :jointsmile: Bree
PS. The fan in that is actually burned out. I just use the light.
dusto2k3
03-12-2007, 03:43 PM
hey, what are my thoughts on the fan or on the posing the pic.
The fan: it comes with brackets that should make it easier to mount . Fabulous idea!!
The Pic: I know others have run into this. Its an intermittent problem. I remember stinky couldnt post at one point, but then it was fixed. Maybe try loggin in then out and maybe closing you browser completley and then reopening.
Bree1978
03-12-2007, 03:46 PM
So put the fan up there in the ceiling, huh? should I put the scrubber in the attic or should try to contain it in the duct? Does that make sense?
dusto2k3
03-12-2007, 03:56 PM
what do you think, would the scrubber take up too much room?
dusto2k3
03-12-2007, 03:56 PM
maybe the fan in the attic
Bree1978
03-12-2007, 04:10 PM
Oh, I thought it was obvious....I was going run duct from the light to the fan.... But maybe that won't work because of space? Or would it collapse the hose? Light>duct>scrubber contained in duct>fan mounted on ceiling to attic
dusto2k3
03-12-2007, 04:12 PM
maybe just hang the fan at the ceiling and then throw the scrubber in the attic. LoL, i hasven't smoked yet and this coffee aint workin!!!
divestoned
03-12-2007, 04:24 PM
"My assassin bug committed suicide, I saw him floating in my water bucket the other day....must have been real thirsty! The next day I was making coffee and I saw another little guy running across the counter, and I scooped him up with a spoon and put him in the room"
LOL I want an assasin bug now.......good job on grow and log :)
Dive:stoned:
Bree1978
03-12-2007, 04:58 PM
LOL I want an assasin bug now.......good job on grow and log :)
Dive:stoned:
:D Thanks for the kinds words and for coming in!
Does anyone else have an opinion about the scrubber placement....?
:jointsmile: Bree
TheGreenFog
03-12-2007, 06:13 PM
Damn, Bree...my fast little fingers got ahead of me. I typed this whole 2 or 3 paragraphs on my opinon about your fan placement, then deleted it...(sigh) Luckily, I like you so I'll type it again. (double sigh) ;) :D
Ok, well, mainly, I said that your room looks a bit small for the hood AND the tube coming out the side. I hope you can squeeze that tube out of the hood and up without kinking it.
Pushing thru the filter or pulling thru is debatable. I would prefer to pull thru...but that's just me.
If you have room above your light, I'd run the tube thru the filter then to the fan, which would be in the attic to reduce noise and heat. If it was up there, you could build a box around it, lined with egg cartons to dampen noise as well. Keep in mind the space above the light and leave room to raise it when they flower. :)
Not sure what else I said...but here's my idea. OH, I said IMO, setting up fans/exhaust/ventilation is the hardest thing of setting up your grow area. If you have THAT in check, and good genetics, it's hard to f**k up the rest. ;)
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Bree1978
03-13-2007, 01:39 PM
Luckily, I like you so I'll type it again.
LOL!
Thanks Fog, I like your idea. I think I'll use a 90 degree ridgid elbow directly facing the fan. This is the only way I can think of to fit everything. I guess if it doesn't work (which I think it will since I still only have but a few feet of duct that I'll be working with) I can always try something else....
I really liked the idea of putting the fan right in the attic with a box, that'll help sound. Which is pretty important since my house is teeny tiny.
Thank you again, Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
crumb I always forget something...I had my first sample of CC (small airy buds that fell off during harvest)...Pretty dayum good...probably partially cause I've been smoking the same stuff for about three weeks, but Still good and Long Lasting. Sounds like a cigarette or beer commercial, lol.
B
Bree1978
03-16-2007, 03:51 PM
Well it's time to bring this misnamed log to a close. Final weight was almost exactly the same as Isabella's. [attachment=o125087] Sigh. No the scale aint broke, the farmer must be, lol. I'm just gonna go on smiling because the next round will much more to care about...and really CC's smoke is stellar and I can see this lasting most of the next wait.[attachment=o125088]
Happy Growin' and Tokin' :jointsmile: Bree
Mrs. Greenjeans
03-16-2007, 05:54 PM
Congratulations honey! wooooooooooooooooooot!
canuck grower
03-17-2007, 12:00 AM
Hey it's been fun reading your log for the whole two weeks I knew about it :D The farmer's not broke, you got 1.75oz of bud to smoke! :rastasmoke:
Looking forward to reading your next log on here. ;)
-cg :jointsmile:
Bree1978
03-19-2007, 02:32 PM
Thanks Mrs. G, and canuck....
And CC was only half the harvest...
See you guys soon, once I have something to share!
:jointsmile: Bree
TheGreenFog
03-20-2007, 04:12 AM
Very nice looking buds there, Bree! Looking forward to seeing the rest!
MILD salsa? Only mild?! C'mon...jump over to the spicey boat! MEDIUM at least. ;) LOL
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Scarlet Sky
03-20-2007, 04:16 AM
very nice bree, though i'm lacking in the "kick in the rear" at the moment...
i see good things in your future, and yes; the force is with you :vader1: :trooper:
r00tdoctor
03-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Very nice first grow bree , I just read the whole log and its nice to see how much your skills grew just in the course of 1 grow. Your plants turned out very nice.
Bodom Children Of
03-25-2007, 03:24 AM
Congrats! Isn't it hard to believe something that takes so long to grow can go "up in smoke" so fast? :jointsmile:
Mrs. Greenjeans
03-25-2007, 04:41 AM
Very nice looking buds there, Bree! Looking forward to seeing the rest!
MILD salsa? Only mild?! C'mon...jump over to the spicey boat! MEDIUM at least. ;) LOL
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Mmmmm, spicy...
Bree, you must be wearing your asskicking shoes!
Bree1978
03-26-2007, 12:57 PM
Fog- The salsa says mild, but that's because sometimes I'm lazy and buy that stuff and add my own hot peppers in a seperate jar. That way both the kids and the adults have what they want....You must have missed the beginning of the harvest- it was a few pages back. I'll reiterate....total weight of Isabella 46g. Total weight of Cee-cee was 45g. Of course that isn't counting the 5 to 10 grams I smoked before it was all weighed...tee-hee. The super good news is I haven't found one seed in Cee-cee. I must have got the bannanas in time.
Thanks Scarlet Sky, I saw your some of your finals, and I'm so impressed!
Thanks rootdoctor. IA, my little Isabella looked almost near death at the beginning. I owe the turn around to the site and all the helpful people!
Bodom, you are telling me! I definitley don't have enough til next harvest...sigh...but I did meet my goal, just underestimated how much I'd smoke, again tee-hee.
And finally to my dear Mrs. G...Nope no asskicking shoes here, lol ass kicking bare feet...spring seems to finally be here! Hope everything is going well with your house....
Thanks again everyone! Til next time, :jointsmile: Bree
Mrs. Greenjeans
03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Plant something else quick! I don't want you to leeeeeaaaave.
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