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faithlessxxx
10-29-2006, 03:37 PM
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Diaries - everyone's doing them, so here's mine!
15 days old.
I got off to a bad start with these 3 Top 44 clones.

I recieved them about a week old. I was gentle with them the first night, but on the second and third day I exposed them to too much light, burned them and they wilted like my dick after watching too much Nicollette Sheridan.
I've grown from bagseed before and they were much more robust and sturdier than clones, so I was a little clumsy with them.

Where I screwed up though, was getting a little panicky and flushing the hell out of them, just in case the nutes in the new soil were too strong as well.
Now, that all sounds reasonable so far, I think most would agree.
My noobie mistake was not realizing that those tiny little clones couldn't possibly suck up all the water in the soil for roughly a week, during which time I saw that they were in fact beginning to become starved from nutes.

Anyway, finally managed to get them growing again, and their top growth looks great, though the lower growth is yellow.
Going to repot them into 2 gallons once theyre about a healthy foot, clone 5 new cuttings then bloom this quickly as a not all that successful attempt that still should yeild a couple of ounces just around x-mas if I really rush it.
The clones get to do the full cycle instead and veg longer.

1 * 250 HPS, 2 * 20W 3 000k CFL's, will add more when I see I need them. Lights 24/7.
Between 23 - 27C. Room is matte white, flooring is white PVC. Area is 1.4m * 1.2 * 4.5m

Anyone who happems to drop by this thread think I can do 5 plants under 250HPS and 80 watts of CFL?

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DamianLucifer
10-30-2006, 01:51 AM
With that light I wouldn't veg them too long But yeah you can grow them with that what size space you have? I wouldn't go past about 3' square sog 1 plant per sq ft would be 9 plants max

denni
10-31-2006, 01:28 AM
nice lookin

BuddyLove
10-31-2006, 07:20 PM
keep vegin mate
u dont wana flower these to early as they dont grow that much in flower
all good things to those who wait

howsyourroof
10-31-2006, 09:15 PM
i was just reading your comments about lst and poking leaves back seems to be working i also tied but mine is in a circle

faithlessxxx
10-31-2006, 10:19 PM
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A circle, lol. I did an "S" :rasta:

I'm really surprised anyone bothered posting in this boring old thread, thanks for the tips and chat. They're coming along fine, could almost clone the biggest one - maybe in a week. I'll post more pics soon :pimp:

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faithlessxxx
10-31-2006, 10:32 PM
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Or I'll post a couple more now, 2 days later, cos I'm bored.
Still a bit skinny but the tops are full of life.

faithlessxxx
11-02-2006, 02:58 PM
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19 days, LST'd gently half an hour ago, misted and rested for half an hour before going back under the lights.
Will increase LST carefully each day.

Decided to LST after all, because due to the initial probs, the lower growth, whilst sprouting quite a bit, are small leaves and far behind the main stem.

Taking Buddyloves advice that Top 44 won't grow much when flowering, I want to make them bushier in veg for more budsites, before flowering, which I want to sooner than I should (X-mas coming up!!!).

So, cloning next week so I have 5-6 girls, then flowering the mothers in 2-3 weeks (Top 44 are one of the fastest bloomers)

(Must get a better camera :upsidedow)

BuddyLove
11-02-2006, 07:49 PM
ive started lsting my 5 44s on monday gettin em ready for a scrog when the flower rooms freed up, the other 2 i grew didnt have many side branches but i only veged to 14" and they had no side branches untill i put em in 12/12 this time im gonna veg till they r 2-3' horizontally and covering a 4'x4' screen
3 of the little fellas have already sprouted a few sydys once i bent em 90 so fingers crossed theyll be a good scrog

pics to follow:thumbsup:

faithlessxxx
11-02-2006, 09:11 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize you were doing 44 too!
I just realized that I can begin flowering in a week, they're about 10" already, they just need to branch out more lower down, so I'm knocked out about that! :rasta: I'll jsut about make xmas!!!

I'd love to see your pics too.

Tell me, do you know why noone ever talks about cloning fan leaves?


but i only veged to 14"

Hmmm, and you felt they were too small at that size?

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BLaQLiGhT
11-02-2006, 11:47 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize you were doing 44 too!
I just realized that I can begin flowering in a week, they're about 10" already, they just need to branch out more lower down, so I'm knocked out about that! :rasta: I'll jsut about make xmas!!!

I'd love to see your pics too.

Tell me, do you know why noone ever talks about cloning fan leaves?



Hmmm, and you felt they were too small at that size?

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- I am also groing Top44 at the moment :p , I also put them in flowering about 10 days ago so that I may have a good harvest before X-mas. I only have 2 plants though, I toped them both and tried to clone the tops that I cut. One of the clones died to mold and the other is still alive and has been for about 17 days now. I think I'm on flowering day 10 right now and I don't see any females yet. If I find a female, I will try the SCROG method of growing because they have almost out grown their cab alreay. PiCs later...

BuddyLove
11-03-2006, 05:42 PM
show us some pics mate

BuddyLove
11-05-2006, 07:49 PM
smoked a spliff of t44 last night only choped it last week

its not ready yet and it was a little harsh

but i was tuned in off a small splifter

should be a really nice smoke after its dryed an cured properly

faithless
11-06-2006, 11:58 PM
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Good stone? I'm going to let my ones mature as long as possible and strive for that couch-lock that I love.
24 days old, no problems with the strain, some mild heating and vent probs, so they're slightly overheated and curled, nothing alarming.
Looking somewhat irregular because I've tucked and weaved leaves all over the place to let the smaller ones get some light.

Repotting end of this week, waiting a couple of days, then cloning, all 3 have had had pistils for about a week, then hoping to rush them into flowering in one week to make x-mas tinme a jolly time for all.

Must get a better camera:

BLaQLiGhT
11-07-2006, 04:13 AM
I'm also trying to catch that X-mas time. Here are is my Top44 plant which was topped once and now it's in flowering and I tried some weird LSTing and also transplanted it into a bigger pot today. The last piC is of a male that should be hepling me get some seeds. Here are the piCs:

faithless
11-07-2006, 08:14 PM
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Dunno if this is a better pic or not, crappy fone cam *grmbl*
25 days.

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BuddyLove
11-08-2006, 09:14 PM
theyre ready for some bigger pots old boy y wait get gardning 2day

blaq have you got some more pics of that lsted plant
looks very intesting

faithless
11-08-2006, 09:36 PM
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You are completely correct. I went out and got 3 gallon buckets today, they're being desinfected right now. Today I also added another 2 * 23w Flour, so now I have 1 * 250HPS in the centre, and 2 * 23w 4000K Flour and 2 * 23w 2700K Flour along each side and it's looking smashing. Repotting in an hour, will take some pics.

I'll cut my clones for my next batch of 5 plants by Monday at the latest once they've settled into their pots, then I'm going to at least flower one. I MUST GET SOME HOMEGROWN FOR XMAS!!!

Once I get 5 going, I'll probably beef the lighting up to 1 * 250HPS and 4 * 40w Flour.

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BuddyLove
11-10-2006, 06:19 PM
have you repotted yet mate ?
ca'nt wait to see these little fellas pickup the pace
what nutes u useing ?
hows the lstin goin

faithless
11-11-2006, 03:38 AM
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I've got some good pice of the whole repotting process in a friends cam who came over with a much better camera. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get hold of him...grmbl.

I'll take a lame ass shot with my crap cam in the meantime...

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faithless
11-11-2006, 04:18 AM
test

faithless
11-11-2006, 04:19 AM
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I ended up using 6.6 gallons of soil and about 20% hydroton on top of that, i think I can just about run 4 * meter tall plants at harvest, and continuously have 4 * one month old clones to replace all the time, or downsize the pots a bit and have 5.

These are what, 28 days maybe, after a shaky start.
After 24 hours in the new soil and looking fine, I retrained them fairly severely in what I hope to be their final position and did some very gentle pruning of old leaves that I had let stay until almost dead.

I have two large girls , and one slightly smaller, who's always been a little smaller than the other two.

Of the two big ones, I'm going to rush-flower one for x-mas, and clone the other.
6 ounces is the mimimum I'll accept from these three.

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faithless
11-11-2006, 04:24 AM
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So hows everyone elses Top 44's coming along?

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BuddyLove
11-11-2006, 04:12 PM
mine r looking great now thanks
im watering from the bottom with just root stim every other day to help lure the roots down
ive also kept up the lst but its getting hard now the stalks are getting bigger + stronger due to the breeze off the fan
ill post some new pics on my thread today


http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=89892

BuddyLove
11-11-2006, 04:34 PM
when i cloned my 44s, becouse the side branches were a little shitty looking i switched to 12/12 for a couple o days then cloned all the lower branches when they were 3-4" and got these 6 clones ~side branches were only 1-2" when in veg @ 14"
so this time ive started a bonzi mom so i will have a contiuos supply of 3rd gen clones

faithless
11-11-2006, 06:03 PM
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A bonzai clone mother...good idea....hmmm.

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BLaQLiGhT
11-11-2006, 08:27 PM
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So hows everyone elses Top 44's coming along?

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My plant is also doing great, thanks for asking. I did more Training on my plant and she loved it. The other bud sites that are usually small are gowing a lot faster and are much bigger. I will try to get some piCs up later when the lights are on in the cab. Keep up the good work " Team Top44 " :thumbsup: ...

BuddyLove
11-11-2006, 08:28 PM
heres a pic

BLaQLiGhT
11-12-2006, 05:00 AM
Here are the piCs. Check out the bend of the stems :p ...

faithless
11-12-2006, 05:06 AM
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Heh, they're growing like they're going out of fashion. They're probably another 10cm since those pics were taken.
And the smallest one, much to my surprise, is now the biggest.

I've given her lots of tender loving, and together with the fact that she gets the coolest area of the room, seems to have payed off.
Only 2 days ago, I was thinking she'd never amount to much...:D
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BuddyLove
11-12-2006, 10:21 AM
blaq i need a detailed desciption off your setup and method im hopeing to get lots of long sydys like yours asap
how long have u been training ?

faithless
11-12-2006, 05:36 PM
A few more pics, I counted 17 budsites on one of them. I think you can see, despite the utter crap that is my camera, how I continously push the older, darker leaves, beneath the up and coming smaller green shoots below:

BuddyLove
11-12-2006, 06:18 PM
how tall are they now mate ?

faithless
11-12-2006, 06:40 PM
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Just measured with a piece of string to follow the curve of the stem. They're between 14 - 15" long, but they're LST'd down to 11"

If things turn out really well, I may be able to start flowering them all at the end of this week...:D

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faithless
11-12-2006, 06:57 PM
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Even in these crappy shots, you can see the difference in only about 3 days:

BuddyLove
11-12-2006, 07:18 PM
easy flower this week 6 oz youd get switching tonight

i dished out a few buds of my last grow this weekend to a few close mates
as my opinion may be a little biast
the local weed supply has been a little dubious of late
and all the lads loved it
loved the strong fruity smell through the bag
loved the deep orange hairs and the sticky not damp texture
loved the two tokes and it hits yer

best ive ad all year !!! said one old buddy
i was well chuffed cos it wernt up to sratched id ave been ripped to bits

a couple of big spliffs passed round and it was a mr miagi lookalike compation

so good luck with your grow hope you get as good strenth as me your plants look the same pheno

BuddyLove
11-12-2006, 07:27 PM
blaq have you started giveing pk 13-14
i added after 10 days as soon as the budsites were coverd in little hairs

faithless
11-12-2006, 07:39 PM
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I'll be waiting till this weekend, then I'm definitely off with at least one plant maybe all 3.
Really nice to hear it was a good smoke, really I'm getting sick of the overpriced crap I buy, it all tastes of chemicals.

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BuddyLove
11-12-2006, 07:44 PM
my mates happy to pay £40 a quat for quality shit

could have shifted another 10 oz of 44 this week

times are hard for the uk smoker

BLaQLiGhT
11-13-2006, 04:55 AM
blaq i need a detailed desciption off your setup and method im hopeing to get lots of long sydys like yours asap
how long have u been training ?

Today marks 1 week of training, I believe my plant has long sides like this because I didn't have the CFL lights close enough during the VEG stage to keep her low. I also topped her at about the 5th node which I believed helped the new growth grow faster. I put the 150w HPS in and she started to grow :p .


blaq have you started giving pk 13-14
i added after 10 days as soon as the budsites were coverd in little hairs

What is pK 13-14 ? Did it work good for you? Let me know some info about it and mabe I can get some to :thumbsup:. Keep Em Green Top44 Team :dance: ...

BuddyLove
11-13-2006, 08:50 PM
its one of many bloomboosters
i can only say that my buds did seem to improve when added
id love to have the room to test some of the different nutes available
but by reading lots of peoples experiances and results you can get a pretty good picture of what works and whats worth the money
ive got a really good grow shop 20-30mins from work + home so if i get £20 burnin a hole in my pocket im rootin the shelfs for another little pick me up for my little ladys
theres a couple of products which seem really expensive but if they make 1/2 oz difference to a crop or two its £60/80 return
if you read some of the soft secrets readers letters a lot of quality buds been grown with 13/14

BLaQLiGhT
11-15-2006, 02:17 AM
Look at these piCs guys, they grew pretty fast for about 3 days. The 3rd biggest stem from the right back grew to the top of the cab, so I tied it down bending it to the left. You can see it in the PiCs if you look carefully. I even had to train a bud stem that grew off the right stem at the top whcih almost grew into the light (you can see it in that really blurry piC). She's turning into a Beast :dance: ...

BLaQLiGhT
11-15-2006, 02:19 AM
Here are the rest of the PiCs :thumbsup: :

faithless
11-15-2006, 02:20 AM
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Go T44!!!

I'm just waiting for my bloom and clone products to arrive, then I'm going full steam for harvest somewhere around xmas day.
They have like 30 budsites now, new pics soon.

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faithless
11-15-2006, 03:41 PM
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Mmm, nice, products arrived today.
Boiling sharp nail scissors and rockwool for disinfection right now, allow to cool for a few hours, got misting water on 24 hours program...
Mothers haven't had any nutes for a week, apart from the soil nutes which I suspect are fairly depleted since the plants are about half a meter now
Then allow the mothers to recuperate until the week-end, then they go into flowering.

When they get harvested in 6 weeks (Top 44), the clones will have had 6 weeks to root and veg, which is actually a little longer period than these mothers have reached half a meter of total sexyness in. This means the grow room gets immediately occupied by 4 new ready-to-flower plants :rasta:

Pics coming soon.

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faithless
11-15-2006, 07:13 PM
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Cloned. Done and done. The only thing I didn't boil first was my hands. Even the leca balls around the rockwool got boiled first. :rasta:

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BLaQLiGhT
11-16-2006, 01:20 AM
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When they get harvested in 6 weeks (Top 44), the clones will have had 6 weeks to root and veg, which is actually a little longer period than these mothers have reached half a meter of total sexyness in. This means the grow room gets immediately occupied by 4 new ready-to-flower plants :rasta:

Pics coming soon.

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Sounds like a good plan to me, you can then even clone from the clones that are going into flowering before you put them into flowering and have a big ganja growing cycle thing happening :dance: . Keep those plants happy faithless, and I'm sure they will make you happy in the end :thumbsup: ...

faithless
11-17-2006, 02:56 AM
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Yupp, thats the idea :D. I want to get 4 plants going next round if possible though.
Some more crap pics with my crap cam.
They're about 45cm (18") long but LST'd to about 25-30cm (9").

The clones are still alive and actually looking quite good, so I can afford to lose a couple. I've been waiting a little to make sure they're ok before flowering, but I think i dare take the risk now. So tomorrow at 6pm: Flowering time :pimp:

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faithless
11-17-2006, 03:14 AM
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Damn, my camera really is supremely, awesomely, utter garbage :yippee:

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faithless
11-17-2006, 03:28 AM
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Just for fun, in choronlogical order so far:

faithless
11-17-2006, 03:29 AM
cont'd

faithless
11-17-2006, 03:31 AM
cont'd:

faithless
11-17-2006, 03:16 PM
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Hmmm, been checking out some closets that I could rebuild. I found a couple of excellent ones, and I own both a 400HPS and a 250HPS (and a bunch of fluors). I could make a great little grow room with enough room for both flowering and vegging section, I bet I could fit in four or five 3 gallon pots but it would involve making my small apartment, which I like to keep quite nicely furnished, looking like crap.
Is it worth it? Hmmm, this shall be pondered.

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BuddyLove
11-17-2006, 08:22 PM
another good week for the boys of "TeamTop44's" intercontinental highspeed skunk production division !

GOOD GOING FELLAS !!!

faithless
11-18-2006, 03:45 AM
:rasta:

I love this board. Is it a coincidence that the friendliest board I've ever posted at is a cannabis grow board? I think not. You guys rock and the T44 gang rool! :thumbsup:

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BuddyLove
11-19-2006, 03:47 PM
dont be shy when it comes to showin some love on cannibis.com
heres a linc to a grow cab makein one of these is easy and pritty cheap as well http://www.growcabinets.co.uk/index.html

faithless
11-20-2006, 08:48 PM
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Aaah, great stuff, will be recieving my old 400w tomorrow. That'll give me 650w of HPS, plus about 100w fluors, on an area is 1.4m * 1.2 and 4.5m tall.
Thats more like it. That'll make these 3 flower very nicely, and I'll be able to flower 4 at a time from the clones. :rasta:

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faithless
11-21-2006, 05:25 PM
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They're now reclining under a 400W HPS. I still have another 350W lying around though, but I can't control the heat from that. Looks like I'm building that new wardrobe after all.

Bur first a smoke to celebrate up-grade step 1. :rasta:

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BuddyLove
11-21-2006, 05:55 PM
looks like your well on your way to copious amounts of quality cannabis

jolly good show old boy !!! :thumbsup:

faithless
11-21-2006, 06:06 PM
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Damn, I set up the two HPS's next to each other and the light just looked great, but after about half an hour I was reaching 33C. Looked great though ;)

I wonder how to keep that cool in a closet without a cool tube.


watt an improvement Lol

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BuddyLove
11-21-2006, 06:59 PM
its only 6c outside here so with just my 4" inlet fan running and a 12"ocilater temps are only 22- 24 max
im thinking of switching 1212 tonight so ill be adding a little heater if i do
how about you ?
im thinkin 44s may be more suited to sog so i think ill take a few more clones and try a 12/18 to a m2 in 6.5l pots
what you think mate :confused:

faithless
11-22-2006, 04:19 AM
Sounds good to me, scrog even.

faithless
11-23-2006, 06:19 PM
6 days into flowering. I put the size 42 shoe in for size reference ;)

faithless
11-23-2006, 06:25 PM
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Lost a couple of days growth by being too careful when I started downsizing NPK and carefully raising PK.
I suspected that, so I gave them a larger dose of nutes and they shot up.

Hey Buddy, Scrog is the only way to go with the T44's, IMO. I think thats what I'll do with the clones.

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BuddyLove
11-23-2006, 07:22 PM
wow
looking good mate
how many inch they grown in 6 days ?

faithless
11-23-2006, 08:40 PM
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Thanks ;) Well, they stopped growing or slowed down the 3 first days of flowering, I think. They're thickening nicely though, though the undergrowth is getting to be a hassle. No matter how much I squeeze fan leaves to the bottom, there's always a new lil bud site being obscured, hence the Scrog plans.
Maybe grown a little under 2" since flowering. I've said it before: Anything less than 6 ounces is an insult!!!

How are your little gals coming along?

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BuddyLove
11-23-2006, 11:29 PM
i switched the light off tonight for 24 hrs
and droped on the screen

just found 7 seeds in a bud from my last grow

faithless
11-24-2006, 05:19 PM
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Right, I'm off to get some chicken netting for Scrog. Tucking and weaving ain't good enough once they get this dense. I don't want to waste a single bud site, since I don't have to. Anything I need to think about? For one, is it a hassle come harvest time?

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BuddyLove
11-24-2006, 10:49 PM
harvesting sticklysweet buds is no hassle whatsoever not no never
im still not sure yet but i keep thinking a sgrog is not the way to go with a t44
just looks like it would be happier growin straight up
but we shal see

faithless
11-25-2006, 04:16 AM
lol.
Really, you think so?

BuddyLove
11-25-2006, 12:30 PM
yep next time i think ill flower at 12-14" and trimm all the lower growth to see if i can force out a massife main cola :D

faithless
11-27-2006, 08:51 PM
Ten days into flowering:

BLaQLiGhT
11-28-2006, 02:01 AM
Aaahhh, I'm back. Did I miss anything? I hope not. :dance: Your plants look wonderful faithless, keep it up :thumbsup: . I'm happy to see that TeamTop44 is still Growing Em Green :p ...

I hope these PiCs make up for the time that I missed :p :

BLaQLiGhT
11-28-2006, 02:02 AM
I ain't done yet :dance: :

faithless
11-29-2006, 05:09 PM
Well, it's been 14 days for the clones, they're not looking too hot. I think I was over confident when I took measly little branches from the bottom instead of being a little more generous. However, I think the 3-4 larger ones out of 7 are surviving, the stem growing out of the rockwool looks like new fresh growth on those ones, amongst some other signs.

Planted 6 seeds of good bagweed last night just in case I don't get my 4-5 clones. When they crack, I'll check all the clones for roots. Until then I'll leave them undisturbed and misted unless I see sudden changes.

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re seems to be new stem groth at thebottom.

TheGreenFog
11-29-2006, 06:34 PM
Bummer about your clones, man. They should have definitely rooted by now. I'm worried about the cloning powder you are using. What kind is it?

I recommend Olivia's, even though I know someone said something about how they didn't like it. I like it.

'My' new favorite combo is now Olivia's gel, into rockwool cubes, soak with dilute pH'd H2O with a drop or 2 of superthrive and about the same of seaweed extract. 100% success rate.

Keep rockwool cubes in humidome with holes in top and keep moist & misty. Hydroton under them for a few days after they bust through the bottom of the wool.

:rastasmoke:

TGF

faithless
11-29-2006, 06:39 PM
Root hormone is Rhizopon AA pflanzenwuchstoffe, all the rage amongst farmers over here.
http://www.rooting-hormones.com/drydip.htm

Anyway, around half survived I think.
I've moved them to within a couple of "'s from the 20W soft warm Fluor, think I'll give them a couple of days of more light.

faithless
12-02-2006, 03:41 PM
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Some flowering pics for Buddy and Blaq, day 13:

Tried to catch a pre-cola on the pic of a single stem, but you can't see anything with this camera...you can see the sea of buds quite well though.

BuddyLove
12-02-2006, 04:59 PM
lookin good mate plenty of well developed budsites there theyve grown really well
its the next two weeks that count make sure you keep em happy and theyll reward you with chunky buds

good luck mate

ps:you got 1oos of quids worth of bud in your closet go bye a decent camera;)

faithless
12-02-2006, 05:06 PM
;) Thanks.

I'm at about NPK: 7/16/14 right now, will up the PK to about 7/20/18 during the next two weeks, then lower 5th week and flush 6th. What do you think about that?
Hehe, yeah I have to get a better cam.

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BuddyLove
12-02-2006, 05:14 PM
sounds about right
you 've got this shit locked down !!!

keep em green if you know what i mean :rastasmoke:

faithless
12-02-2006, 05:18 PM
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Gonna be interesting comparing our stuff.
My ones vegged a week lnoger than yours, I think.

Also, I can see that using almost only red light all the way has made them more leafy and the stems a little weaker than I would have liked. I only had about 40W of CFL 4 000K apart from the HPS.
You have more blue light in your bulb, and I think there will be different results.

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faithless
12-02-2006, 05:30 PM
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One thing is for sure though, about half I'm keeping, the other half is going to a new big closet that I can drill in as much as I want.
Flowering compartment will have 650W HPS, maybe a couple of CFL's, I want to cool tube both those HPS's too, I want PERFECT temps!!! And the veg room I think will be just cfl and fluors.

That should give me a nice steady set up, with a flow of maybe 8 ounces every 2 months.

BuddyLove
12-02-2006, 06:53 PM
sounds like a plan mate :thumbsup:

BLaQLiGhT
12-02-2006, 09:18 PM
Sounds like a really good plan at that. Your plants look better then good for only 13 days of flowering. I believe my plant is going to take longer because the way I had my lights to far away from the plant during the VEG cycle. Your VEG method faithless is right on point. Keep Up the good work bro :thumbsup:. Since my cab isn't going to get any bigger in the near future, I plan on get a MH in my cab for VEG, I think it shold help. Maybe I can even run the MH and my 150w HPS at the same time during flowering for more blue spectrum light to get things going right...

Team Top44 at it again !!! :smokin:

BuddyLove
12-02-2006, 09:26 PM
RIGHT ON BROTHER !!!

AMEN TO THAT !!!

faithless
12-03-2006, 04:38 AM
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well, I think if anyone else is reading the Top 44 threads, you can see all 3 of us are having fun with this strain, and it's quite a rewarding, and quite easy plant to grow.
Buddy smoked some immature and quick dried, and said it was good shit.
So there you have it. I recommend it.

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faithless
12-03-2006, 07:09 AM
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I just had another thought. Maybe I can afford another 400W.
So: 2 * 400W HPS in flowering compartment, 250HPS + 100W cool Cfls in vegging compartment.
Hmmm, suddenly I'm harvesting ½ kg.

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BLaQLiGhT
12-06-2006, 03:37 AM
LOL, I just saw that you are both faithless & faithlessxxx . ;) Is faithlessxxx your Porn Star name?


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I just had another thought. Maybe I can afford another 400W.
So: 2 * 400W HPS in flowering compartment, 250HPS + 100W cool Cfls in vegging compartment.
Hmmm, suddenly I'm harvesting ½ kg.
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Woo Hoo, PornStars always think big. If you see there is a possibility in have a set-up such as the one you explained up there, Go for it :thumbsup: . NOthing can stand in the way for Team Top44 :dance: . I feel like I'm highjacking your thread since I never made my own Journal here on this site. But my progress has to be seen and it I think it's to late to make a journal :p . Can I post more piCs of my grow on your beautiful grow journal Mr.faithless Sir :p ? I will assume that you will say yes and post some well needed piCs. My plant is a slacker, but I believe she will be ready for harvest before Christmas, I hope :confused: . Good Luck To Team Top44, GROW ON AND DON"T LET ANYTHING GET IN YOUR WAY (only the ones you love). Keep Em GROWING :thumbsup: ....

BLaQLiGhT
12-06-2006, 03:38 AM
1 more from the top :D ...

faithless
12-06-2006, 08:44 PM
Hehe, feel free, nice buds!
Will try to get some new pics soon too.

faithless
12-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Some more pics later tonite.
Day 18 of flower, click for bigger pic, better camera:

faithless
12-06-2006, 09:52 PM
The light was turned off for these pics. More:

Dan K.
12-06-2006, 10:51 PM
mmmm....damn those look pretty. I've never seen or heard of Top 44 here on the West Coast, can you tell me anything about its genetics? Keep up the good work,

Dan K.

faithless
12-06-2006, 10:59 PM
http://www.buydutchseeds.com/product_info.php?products_id=54

Woah, I just saw that one of my clones has rooted quite nicely. Don't dare peak at the others yet.
She's coming along for the journey, if she picks up, I'm keeping her.
Thanks!
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BLaQLiGhT
12-07-2006, 12:14 AM
Ohh WOW, looks like you are going to harvest before me, LOL :p . I love the progress faithless and thanks for letting me continue to post piCs. Hopefully when I'm out of school and start my career, I can get some BIgger lights with bigger watts to get that quick growing skill that you have :dance: (+ better nutes). I'm sure that Top44 will stay in your garden at all times to get that quick finishing grow. Top44 will probably make you impatient when it comes to growing different strains :p . Keep Em Frosty man :thumbsup: ...

faithless
12-07-2006, 06:42 PM
I'm twisting them around and switching places so that the lowest areas are getting the most sun, and a lot of the lower growth is catching up now.

BuddyLove
12-07-2006, 07:56 PM
love the all new quality pics mate

them buds are fanominal for 18 days

i was meaning to post last night but ended up toasting your boss pics with a bevey an a spliff and was too wrecked :jointsmile:

ive took a few pics of my little ladys ill post em in a min on my thread

blaq your buds are comeing along very nicely

just think of the results ud be gettin with a hps

its worth investin in it would pay for itself in 44 days
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well done team :thumbsup:

faithless
12-07-2006, 08:14 PM
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Heh, thanks ;) A slideshow, just for fun:
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/faithless01/?action=viewwidgets&lastAction=created

Gonna check out your stuff, but now I'm really wrecked...lol

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faithless
12-07-2006, 08:21 PM
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Hey Buddy, my plan is to decrease npk second to last week and then flush last week, but what if I only decrease N second to last week but continue with PK, then flush last week?

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BuddyLove
12-09-2006, 11:51 AM
id wait and see how your buds a lookin before you start flushing if your after a heavy stone you may be leavin em past 50 days so you could be better to feed up to around day 42 then flush and keep checin the triks

just a thought mate

faithless
12-09-2006, 04:23 PM
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Not a bad idea. Impatience vs. that great couch-lock Indica I so love...decisions, decisions...

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BLaQLiGhT
12-09-2006, 09:16 PM
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Not a bad idea. Impatience vs. that great couch-lock Indica I so love...decisions, decisions...

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If you love a great couch lock Indica high, you should get Aurora Indica from Nirvana. It was my first grow and the high was crazy. I was numb all over and almost passed out after being high for about 45 ot 60 minutes :stoned: . Last night I bought one of those mini-microscopes from RadioShack and check my trichomes, they are 50/50 clear/cloudy. I didn't realize how frosty the plant got until I looked at it last night. and with the mini-mirco, the site is even more frosty :p . Grow on TT44 :thumbsup: ...

faithless
12-10-2006, 04:32 AM
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Really? I'm very interested in papaya right now...supposed to be a classic couch lock, very good yield, 8 weeks flowering which is quite short, easy grower, and finally a nice taste.

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BLaQLiGhT
12-10-2006, 09:22 PM
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Really? I'm very interested in papaya right now...supposed to be a classic couch lock, very good yield, 8 weeks flowering which is quite short, easy grower, and finally a nice taste.

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Oh man, get both like I did :p . I have Papaya which is going to be my next grow and then bubblicious. I think I got about 4 Nirvana strains Top44, Papaya, Bubblicious and Aurora Indica. I got other seeds that were freebies, Ajan's Haze #2 X Kali mist & Durban Poison X Skunk #1. I'm set to grow with meany different strains from Sativas to Indicas. There is a Papaya GrowJournal on this site if you seach it. TOkudai and Weed4Life have the 2 current ones that I look into and this one is an old favorite by LOC NAR1958: http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=68550&highlight=papaya , LOC NAR1958 says:

OK , Guy's I came in under what I wanted but still happy. I got 3/4 of a pound of crystal coated crack on a stick. PA pow. Wish I could let you all have a taste. It's in the cure now.

Sounsd good to me :stoned: ...

BLaQLiGhT
12-12-2006, 05:53 AM
Here is alitttle update of my plant Lolana. Soon I will learn how to get some closer shots so that you guys can see how frosty she is :p . I'm thinking the grow is going to last until christmas :confused: , maybe she is stunned, she is growing slowly but the buds at the bottom that should be popcorn buds are growing upwards and getting bigger then my last grow. It's all good, I'm a patient guy. More the buds, more the merrier :jointsmile: . How are your plants going faithless, I know you have those plants near harvest now, LOL. how much longer, 2 weeks? :p ....

------Keep Em Green Team Top44!!!!

faithless
12-20-2006, 12:44 AM
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OK, I'm still in the game.
I had an accident where the door to my room was left closed for an hour.
Temps probably reached 40-45C during that hour, and my 3 girls hermied.
I found 2-3 bollocks on each plant, all at the very bottom luckily. 2 were open, and one opened in my hand as I tried to snip it off.
The other were mostly immature and small.

I then caught another 3 a few days later, the second they peeked out.
Then zero for the last couple of days.

At first I thought all was lost. I googled and found some people that had caused a regression in male flowers by operating as I did, so I think there may not be anymore.
However, one guy mentioned that the quality of his harvest was reduced, he didn't mention whether he meant yeild or potency.

So I just smoked my first genuine bud, albeit dried in the oven for 20 mins, and it's good. It would even be good enough for me to pay for without really worrying.
So I'm back in the game.

I'll be cutting a 5 grammer a few days before x-mas and letting it cure for a few days.
If it has very immature or no seeds, I'll let them go a week longer than 44 days, I think.

Else, chop-chop, and in with the next round.

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BLaQLiGhT
12-21-2006, 05:47 AM
I hope everything goes well with the plants man, Team Top44 needs to get a good harvest for it's first grow together. You say the smoke is still good, I believe you can pull it off man. I bet your buds are super fat right now, your plants grew so fast. Keep Em Frosty :p ...

faithless
12-22-2006, 01:10 AM
Mmm. buds are swelling deliciously now...whether with seed or resin, I still don't know, but I'm banking on resin...:D

BuddyLove
12-22-2006, 08:16 PM
dont worry mate im sure your bud will be top quality sensi or not :rastasmoke:

BLaQLiGhT
12-23-2006, 01:38 AM
sensimilla? I got that covered, I harvested my plant today. It smells so good and the bods aer nice and frosty. I know I ned a better digi-cam but I hope I made you guys proud with my noob set up :p . I can't smoke any until next year though, I have to take a drug test again soon for a school program but 'm ok with it. The buds should have a lot of time to dry and cur. I can't wait to try the smoke, 60 days of flowering. I know this shit will have me super baked :jointsmile: . Here are the piCs :

BLaQLiGhT
12-23-2006, 01:40 AM
More piCs :p .

BLaQLiGhT
12-23-2006, 01:43 AM
And I couple more piCs :D , I tried to get some Trichome piCs to. They were about 35%amber/60%cloudy/5%clear, I'm going to be a very happy smoker :D . I will get a scale sometime next week and weight the total harvest to see how much I got for all the work I put in (Not much, I got Lazy. But I'm happy with the results)...

faithless
12-23-2006, 03:26 AM
Haha! nice work man :D

BuddyLove
12-24-2006, 03:01 AM
ok so its 215 in the morning and ive been out on a crimbo beer n bugal bender my spellin may be shite !!!
but i am so happy to see you;av croped buds i was invited round a freinds house tonite to see the grow he'ad set up after id given him 6 clones
and i was well impressed !!!!:) even though he'ad turned three plants hermi i was glad to see him and is uncle had spent the time n effort to setup a quality grow room they ave now got 3 plants about 4ft nder a250 hps and a clone room ready for 12p-16 plants THEY WILL HOPEFULLY get a
600watter and put the 250 in the clione in room in the bnew year
bblaq whattb were the thrikes like today in %

dont be shy postin the dry weight as we cannot compare the meathods without your results

your the 1st team player to harvest well done son !!! :rastasmoke: hope you have a merry christmas and faithless has a happy new year with his crop early jan

happt tokein to all members at cannabis . com

faithless
12-24-2006, 01:57 PM
Merry Xmas!

faithless
12-26-2006, 10:03 PM
Hmmm, was planning to go an extra week, but don't think I dare to with these friggin' hermies. Trichomes just starting to get generally milky, with a slight hint of brown. Harvest should be in 3 days if everything had gone perfectly but will have to wait a few more days. Should I give them one more dose of PK or start flushing now?

I can see what got seeded now, about a third is seeded.
But the occassional new male bud rears it's head still, and rather than carry on spending half an hour every day searching for new buds and risk missing one or two, I'd rather get this harvest done with. Im pretty pleased that most seems to not be seeded so far though. Also, nearly all the biggest top colas seem to have survived, the pollen that escaped has mainly seeded the lower popcorn buds - the beauty of controlled, artifical wind not reaching the lower branches :D

Otherwise, looking nice, nice crystals, quite nice buds, I've probably nipped 15 gram and smoked bu now though, though I've only been smoking the buds that I can see are seeded.

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BLaQLiGhT
12-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Go with the flush and harvest if they are ready :D . Did you use SuperThrive by any chance? On a different site, this guy tried to help 2 of his female plants catch up with the other bigger female plants and used just alittle extra ST and furts then those 2 plants went hermie on him. Just don't give the seeds time to grow and the buds should be fine :jointsmile: . Just a couple more days to NewYears, Stay safe TeamTop44 !!!

faithless
12-29-2006, 06:19 PM
Yupp flushed once good and hard, will flush 1-2 times more depending on trichs.
They're still clear with just a hint of amber. Got one bud hanging for new years eve, crystals lookng and smelling good.
One day past suggested flowering time now...
No superthrive, just a heating accident for an hour...I've been reading up on hermies and they're getting more and more common with all the strain crossing, lots of instability. Some strains even hermie naturally at the end of their flowering these days.

Looks like I'm getting some speed queen and hashberry clones for the next grow, from http://www.mandalaseeds.com

How did your stuff smoke Blaq?

Happy new year!

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BLaQLiGhT
01-06-2007, 12:19 AM
Sup faith, were the plants b @? How are your plants doing ? :jointsmile: <---None of that for me just yet, I have to wait becuz I'm trying to get in this program for school and I have to wait to see if I get accepted then I have to take a drug test. I don't know when all of this is going down but I am a patient man. Here are some piCs of the budage though. You see the ICE that is covering them? smells so good:

faithlessxxx
01-07-2007, 01:18 AM
Looking nice man. Damn good that you're managing to keep away for school, cred for that! Wow, how much did you get? Nice!
Just harvested my first two good colas half an hour ago, they're hanging now. I've got a great new camera but I can't reload the battery, I don't think I'll get any pics of the last days of the bushes, but I'll try to get the battery loaded for some harvesting pice. I think I'll be harvesting another 6-8 colas tomorrow, and the rest during the next 7 days. They're looking and smoking great.
Flushed the hell out of them, managed to get in 4 good long flushes in the bathtub during 12 days.
Got two friends completely stoned last night on oven dried ;) Theres no more seeded bud apparently, pretty much survived that one ;)

Feelin' good ;)

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faithlessxxx
01-07-2007, 09:22 PM
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Harvested about a third today - hanging nice and dark and dry and airy now and looking scrumptious.

There's no friggin' seeds!!! Just swollen, ripe buds!!! Nice mix of heavy and cerebral it seems, weaving in and out of each other, though this was oven dried for 40 mins on the lowest possible heat with the door open - I'm not sure what effect that has on it, or it's potency?

It sounds a little presumptious, but counting all the average good buds low, 3 grams though they easily look like 10 wet, there must be 100g hanging there already. And I have 2/3rds left in 2 days time, when the rest of the trichomes should be just how I want them.
It's going to be very interesting seeing what they weigh.

This sunday, after 7 days of drying, I'm bringing over some mates and we're going to roll a 10g joint, just for the heck of it ;)
Must get my camera working!!!

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BLaQLiGhT
01-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Sound good faithless, happy to hear ha there are no beans in your bud. You dodged a big bullet. You got the Sensimilla :rastasmoke: ...

faithlessxxx
01-16-2007, 03:20 AM
Well, I've just weighed and jarred 40g dry, so I now have a feel for how much is left. I should have about 120g left to jar, and I bet I've popped 30g already, we easily did 10 last night (traditional Viking harvest feast, its a scandinavian thing).

So around 200g.
I'm very pleased with that, my goal was to arrive over 6 ounces with 3 gals.

The buds are a little more airy than commercial hydro buds.
They've aged and goldened very nicely though, with sparkly, dark crystals on both buds and the smallest leaves.

Average potency, though I've been smoking constantly for 4 months so my tolerance is high - one mate last night was in giggle hysterics for hours ;)
Not a strong scent, but very nice. Peaches and pine.
Clean, piny/mentholy taste.

No camera :(

Kb420Kb
01-16-2007, 03:52 AM
wow bro.. nice buds.. i wish i could have some xD :rastasmoke:

TheGreenFog
01-16-2007, 05:21 AM
Sounds delicious.

PICS!


The Fog :rastasmoke:

BuddyLove
01-19-2007, 08:45 PM
well done mate
another successfull grow under your belt
but dont forget you carn't take all the credit it was a team effort !!!
theres nothing better than getting your mates wrecked off your homegrown :rasta:

what you got in the growroom now ???