First Grow Log - 1000W, 12-plant SCROG **Pics**

[Dan K.]

Hey everyone, I put these pictures up in another thread, but I figured it would be better if I started a log.

First of all, let me start off by saying that all growing in these pictures is for medical use only and is in 100% accordance with state law. :rasta:

Here are some pics of the plants a week after we planted them. Let me just say that the growth has been incredible.

I'm going to start LST'ing soon in preparation for the screen, which we'll put up in a couple weeks.

All 12 of them are snocap!!

Any comments/questions/anythings are appreciated. I'll try and post pics up 1-2 times a week. LMK,

Dan K. :thumbsup:

[jamstigator]

I subscribed to your thread here, as I'm a ScroG fan, and just ordered a 1000-watt light myself. And hey, I like seeing cannabis grow!

One small suggestion, if I may: there's really no need to upload pictures THAT large in dimensions. If you could size them down to like 1024x768 or something before uploading them, I'm sure the low bandwidth people would appreciate it. Makes it easier for higher bandwidth people to view them without scrolling around with their browser too. Not a big deal, just thought I'd ask. ;)

Plants look very green and healthy! Can't wait to see them ScroG'd into a big, beautiful plain of buds!

[Dan K.]

A couple pics of the light/intake for the room. The last picture was taken the day they were planted:

[Dan K.]

I subscribed to your thread here, as I'm a ScroG fan, and just ordered a 1000-watt light myself. And hey, I like seeing cannabis grow!

One small suggestion, if I may: there's really no need to upload pictures THAT large in dimensions. If you could size them down to like 1024x768 or something before uploading them, I'm sure the low bandwidth people would appreciate it. Makes it easier for higher bandwidth people to view them without scrolling around with their browser too. Not a big deal, just thought I'd ask. ;)

Plants look very green and healthy! Can't wait to see them ScroG'd into a big, beautiful plain of buds!

For sure man, I'll get on it!

I just hate cell phone camera pics or tiny little pictures where you don't get any detail or quality.

[WEED_UK]

keep with the bigs pics dude....they are great for detail

[Dan K.]

keep with the bigs pics dude....they are great for detail

that's kinda how I felt too. I resized some of them to 800X600 and I'll post them all at that size from now on. Kinda like a nice happy medium.

[MegaOctane12]

Those fans look way too strong for that stage in the grow

[Dan K.]

really??

we keep them on low at all times, with one circulating air during the "night," then we turn them both to low to circulate more air to counter for the light heat during "day." Ventilation is really important in this room since its an attic, it keeps the temperatures down below 80+. But if that's detrimental to the plants, please LMK

[MegaOctane12]

No that seems ok, but some fans look monstorous, really don't want wind burn

[gmoney5ss]

those look really good for being as young as they are, im more and more thinking about getting like a 400 watt hps, mh light over my cfls.. growth is just disapointing compared to your pictures, yours will how outgrown my in over a week.. and mine are wayy too old for that..

lookin great though, keep on comin with the updates

[howsyourroof]

wind burn plz do inform me

[gmoney5ss]

wind burn plz do inform me

me too, havnt heard of this as of yet, i have a big fan too..

[TheGreenFog]

He's saying that the wind is trying to smoke your plants before you can! :eek: AHHHHhhhhhhhh. :eek:

[TheGreenFog]

No, but seriously, I have not read about that anywhere, either. I would have to guess its a condition of the wind...ummm...burning your plants...lol. Kind of like how your face gets chapped in a stiff wind. I've read that the plant always maintains a layer of higher moisture (humidity) closest to the leaves. Maybe it (the wind) removes necessary moisture that the plant needs around it...and therefore, goes cripsy? Am I close?

:confused: :stoned: :D :dance:

TGF

[MegaOctane12]

No, but seriously, I have not read about that anywhere, either. I would have to guess its a condition of the wind...ummm...burning your plants...lol. Kind of like how your face gets chapped in a stiff wind. I've read that the plant always maintains a layer of higher moisture (humidity) closest to the leaves. Maybe it (the wind) removes necessary moisture that the plant needs around it...and therefore, goes cripsy? Am I close?

:confused: :stoned: :D :dance:

TGF

Yeah what he said. When you use very powerful fans it actually has a very drying effect whereby the moisture is sucked off the plants, if you had those fans on maximum right next to your plants they would dry up and produce alot of resin on the leaves to protect themselves so some wind is good. You have to be very careful though because you can seriously damage a small plants delicate internal structures and leaves with excessive ventilation.

I've seen small plants that have literally had their blades on one side, blown to the other, its actually quite comical, you don't want it to happen.

[Dan K.]

Yeah what he said. When you use very powerful fans it actually has a very drying effect whereby the moisture is sucked off the plants, if you had those fans on maximum right next to your plants they would dry up and produce alot of resin on the leaves to protect themselves so some wind is good. You have to be very careful though because you can seriously damage a small plants delicate internal structures and leaves with excessive ventilation.

I've seen small plants that have literally had their blades on one side, blown to the other, its actually quite comical, you don't want it to happen.

lol....thanks for the info....judging from your description though mine are fine.

[Dan K.]

those look really good for being as young as they are, im more and more thinking about getting like a 400 watt hps, mh light over my cfls.. growth is just disapointing compared to your pictures, yours will how outgrown my in over a week.. and mine are wayy too old for that..

lookin great though, keep on comin with the updates

thanks man..this is my first grow, but I read that one of the advantages of an HID light was a short, compact plant, which is really what I need for my grow area. I have also slowly been introducing CO2 into the environment as well as VERY diluted nutrient solutions, so I would hope those have contributed too.

[Dan K.]

Finally, a picture of my favorite plant so far. Look at all that outward growth. Should I be doing any tucking/trimming of fan leaves yet, or should I save that on for later down the road??

[dutch.lover]

that plant looks really nice :)

[YASoob]

I wouldn't recommend scrog for 12 plants due to the fact that once the screen is on, its on. And getting around those plants are pretty hard when you only have one side to work with. I tryed scrog for 5 plants and only one side to work with, man it was hard to get all those growth up there. I believe you have a better chance at SOG with 1000watt and keep it growing, Its looking beautiful.

[Dan K.]

I wouldn't recommend scrog for 12 plants due to the fact that once the screen is on, its on. And getting around those plants are pretty hard when you only have one side to work with. I tryed scrog for 5 plants and only one side to work with, man it was hard to get all those growth up there. I believe you have a better chance at SOG with 1000watt and keep it growing, Its looking beautiful.

thanks for the heads up, I thought about that in advance though and I have pretty easy access to all the plants. I do agree that the ones against the wall in the middle are going to be difficult to train, but I do have enough room to gain access to the plants. Although now that I think about it, a SOG set-up would be a fair amount easier and allow for more harvests. I'll sleep on it and let you know

[MegaOctane12]

If you do decide to Scrog, grow the plants to a certain height and then switch over to 12/12 and then grow the stretch the screen. Don't bother growing into the screen throughout vegetative, all you will get is the plants crushing up together because they have been allowed to grow for so long. You'll have a tangled mess that's hard to rectify and it'll be harder to remove any males. Alot of people are under the impression that you shoud use the screen through vegetative, their wrong.

[Dan K.]

If you do decide to Scrog, grow the plants to a certain height and then switch over to 12/12 and then grow the stretch the screen. Don't bother growing into the screen throughout vegetative, all you will get is the plants crushing up together because they have been allowed to grow for so long. You'll have a tangled mess that's hard to rectify and it'll be harder to remove any males. Alot of people are under the impression that you shoud use the screen through vegetative, their wrong.

thanks for the heads up, I've never done ScroG before so I appreciate all your help. I was actually thinking about maybe doing 6 plants as a ScroG and then the other 6 in a SoG set-up and compare the end results. If I decide to do this, I'll be switching over to 12/12 at the end of this week to hopefully get that takeoff in veg. growth. sound ok??

I was also thinking about ScroGing each plant with its own screen so they would be movable throughout the whole grow process, as opposed to using one giant screen. We'll see.

[Dan K.]

hey, a quick question -

my plants are showing pistils already as well as beginning to form trichromes on the leafs. I thought this was fine but my housemate said that it was a sign of accidental early flowering? I'm sorry if that's a newbie question, but I'm a newbie grower lol. :rasta:

[MegaOctane12]

thanks for the heads up, I've never done ScroG before so I appreciate all your help. I was actually thinking about maybe doing 6 plants as a ScroG and then the other 6 in a SoG set-up and compare the end results. If I decide to do this, I'll be switching over to 12/12 at the end of this week to hopefully get that takeoff in veg. growth. sound ok??

I was also thinking about ScroGing each plant with its own screen so they would be movable throughout the whole grow process, as opposed to using one giant screen. We'll see.

Yeah that sounds ok, I have no experience with SoGing however so I can't comment, but if you do what your just mentioned in ScroG then it should be fine. It takes a while and there's alot of different oppinions people have, like whether you should pull the stems back under the screen, or weave them throughout the holes. Personally I would say that its what you make it, so try it out and see. Good luck with it. p.s individual screens sound fine.

[Dan K.]

Alrighty, we have a couple new additions to the grow room:

the 1st one is Romulan, it's the weakest clone we got but that particular strain of romulan is so good that we thought it would be worth a try

the 2nd and 3rd are of a grape ape clone, much healthier

the last one is a goo clone, again a lot healthier

we also got a S.S.H. clone a couple days ago, I'll post pics of that later.

All the snocap are doing really well, about to go do some LST'ing, I'll post later

[Dan K.]

OK, here are some post-LST pics, as well as a couple shots of our new S.S.H. clone with all the others

[sth]

LST FTW!

[Dan K.]

OK, I only have a couple pictures tonight, but I'll take more tomorrow and get back to you guys. Check these babies out:

:thumbsup: :pimp: :rasta: :weedpoke:

The 3rd pic is of where I topped, see all the new growth!

[Dan K.]

anyone have any comments? This is my first grow so feedback is super important for me. Thanks!

[Dan K.]

Update 11/28/06:

All of my plants are starting to really grow, I stopped LST'ing so there has finally been some upwards growth, we're looking at putting the screen on by friday -

Pics!

Enjoy,

Dan K.

[Dan K.]

Pics of light/intake:

[Dan K.]

Lastly, pics of the 4 (not so) little ones, S.S.H., Grape Ape, Romulan, and a rather droopy Goo. Rest assured, R/O water is on the way!

[Splifted]

Lol, with 12 plants and a 1kw you sure you even need a scrog? 12 plants will take up a lot of room, especially if you veg them long enough to bend them much under the screen. Haha, but don't get me wrong, if you have room for it, do it, and I cannot wait to see the pics. I've been meaning to try a scrog myself, good luck man :rasta:

[Splifted]

Oh, i didn't even notice, you started yours about the same time as mine :) Mine were just little girls back in the first part of october, and I started LST'ing too and they've grown into 20 headed monsters. I also have them under 1000 watts of light, the only thing is you started from clones and mine were from random bag seed. I really can't wait to see some bud shots of that screen just filled with dankness. Ever seen this grow log? http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326

Really nice Scr0g. Only 3 plants under a 400 watt hps and look at those buds. Just imagine what you're gonna get. :thumbsup:

[Splifted]

Once again, I'm an asshole that doesn't read through posts thoroughly before posting. You already decided against the 12 plant scrog lol. If you're looking for any input, I personally found topping once at around the 4th-6th node then LST'ing works wonders without a screen. Plus, since the plants are tied only to their own pot, it makes them easy to move. But I like the scrog idea too....dunno, I'm still on my first grow as well.

[Dan K.]

Once again, I'm an asshole that doesn't read through posts thoroughly before posting. You already decided against the 12 plant scrog lol. If you're looking for any input, I personally found topping once at around the 4th-6th node then LST'ing works wonders without a screen. Plus, since the plants are tied only to their own pot, it makes them easy to move. But I like the scrog idea too....dunno, I'm still on my first grow as well.

hey, as far as the thread you gave me goes, I know that thread all too well as I modeled my feeding schedule exactly after his as well as my soil mix. LOL I am actually deciding to go through with the SCROG, I'm throwing up the screen on friday or saturday, this is my first grow as well so I have no idea how it's going to go, I'm excited to try though. I topped the main growths around then and it helped me get a much more even canopy, I'm not going to top anything else though. I'm not going to grow the 4 smaller plants in the screen though, I'll grow them on the side and just get a little less from them, they'll all be flowered at the same time, I'm thinking at the latest Christmas, at the earliest 2 weeks

[Dan K.]

BTW, in case I didn't make it clear enough, I now have 16 plants (4 late additions).

[bud breath420]

im so high.. realy lookin forward to seeing these things flower!! woo!!

[Splifted]

I topped the main growths around then and it helped me get a much more even canopy, I'm not going to top anything else though. I'm not going to grow the 4 smaller plants in the screen though, I'll grow them on the side and just get a little less from them, they'll all be flowered at the same time, I'm thinking at the latest Christmas, at the earliest 2 weeks

Yeah, i completely agree. We only topped one before low stress training them all. It grew the biggest main tops, but the others produced a lot more tops, but a lot smaller tops with a few big ones and weren't really all that even. Too bad it decided to hermi too. Oh well, I can deal with seeded bud lol, I only have 4 plants so i'm not about to toss out the two hermis. Plus they're not that bad of hermis.

We vegged for approximately 2.5 months (planted in the first part of September) and they have been flowering for 17 days (16 in these pics)

See the one on the left was topped, the one on the right was LST'ed then we FIM'ed all the new tops which resulted in a whole lot of little ones which aren't as even.

Sorry, not trying to bogart your thread, I'm just a little high and I feel like talking lol.:stoned:

[Dan K.]

Yeah, i completely agree. We only topped one before low stress training them all. It grew the biggest main tops, but the others produced a lot more tops, but a lot smaller tops with a few big ones and weren't really all that even. Too bad it decided to hermi too. Oh well, I can deal with seeded bud lol, I only have 4 plants so i'm not about to toss out the two hermis. Plus they're not that bad of hermis.

We vegged for approximately 2.5 months (planted in the first part of September) and they have been flowering for 17 days (16 in these pics)

See the one on the left was topped, the one on the right was LST'ed then we FIM'ed all the new tops which resulted in a whole lot of little ones which aren't as even.

Sorry, not trying to bogart your thread, I'm just a little high and I feel like talking lol.:stoned:

did you LST the one on the left as well? Yeah, I'm looking at at least 2 months of vegging if not a little more. Sucks to hear about your hermis, good luck with those, my plants already have many more tops than the one you had on the left, but that one on the right looks awesome

[Splifted]

I've never harvested before, but the one with the fewer big tops looks like its going to yield more total than the one with the lot of little tops, simply cause it has like 12 really big stems and thats it and one serious main one. I'll let you know which way works out better in a few weeks.

The one on the left was topped, which meant it stopped growing right there, and branched off in to those two colas at the top of that pic. The rest of the nodes below the top grew up into tops when we tied the topped part down. Count the pairs of two, each side has about the same number, but a couple of the ones that came up way from the bottom did so on the same side cause of bending. We must have cut it on the 6th node, I'll confirm next time I go look at them.

Plant count:
I have one that was topped then LST'ed, one that was only LST'ed, and 2 that were LST'ed, then I FIM'ed and LST'ed all the resulting tops, cause they were fast growers. Check out the 3 budded tops I got from FIM'ing right before flowering.


Pics:
First one was one of the LST caused tops that wasn't FIM'ed.
Second one is one that was. Lol, we weren't planning on flowering, but they got big fast so we went ahead and did even though we had only cut them like days before. So if anyone was wondering, thats what happens when you don't wait for them to recover from topping before floweirng :stoned:

[Splifted]

Also man, what kind of soil are you using and what you feeding them lovely ladies? They are an absolutely beautiful shade of green. Mine are kinda yellowing out a bit due to them not being fed nitrogen anymore and they've had a few slight mishaps along the way but nothing severe. So if you're looking at around 2 months total, how much time is that left before flowering? Not long huh? Your plants should be the size of mine in a week man, once they're that size they grow quickly. Isn't it exciting watching your babies grow up into big beautiful ladies? Haha I'm sure the first time is the best, just like with anything. You look like one noob who did his homework first man, congrats, I have seen a lot of "1st grows" on these threads and not many look that nice.

[chicago_white_guy]

hey kevin,
do your plants have varying shades of green naturally or is it the pictures? you may want to check the deficiency charts that are out there if it's not in the pictures. keep it up!

[Dan K.]

hey kevin,
do your plants have varying shades of green naturally or is it the pictures? you may want to check the deficiency charts that are out there if it's not in the pictures. keep it up!

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, the newer growths are a lighter shade of green, but that's perfectly natural, other than that the plants are all the same shade of green, it could just be the light bouncing off of the mylar and creating the illusion of different shades.

[Dan K.]

Also man, what kind of soil are you using and what you feeding them lovely ladies? They are an absolutely beautiful shade of green. Mine are kinda yellowing out a bit due to them not being fed nitrogen anymore and they've had a few slight mishaps along the way but nothing severe. So if you're looking at around 2 months total, how much time is that left before flowering? Not long huh? Your plants should be the size of mine in a week man, once they're that size they grow quickly. Isn't it exciting watching your babies grow up into big beautiful ladies? Haha I'm sure the first time is the best, just like with anything. You look like one noob who did his homework first man, congrats, I have seen a lot of "1st grows" on these threads and not many look that nice.

I am using some generic soil mix from osh with 3/4 soil, 1/4 perlite and a pinch of dolimitic lime. Next time, I'm going to do closer to 50/50 cause I'm having a lot of problems with compaction right now. I'm feeding them Fox Farms Grow Big at around 6-7cc/gal right now, Liquid Karma about 5cc/gal, and Super-Thrive B1 (8cc/gal every other watering). Every third watering is just R/O H20, no nutes. At about 3 weeks I think I shocked a lot of my plants, some of them definitely had nutrient burn and they began growing 1 and 3-pronged leaves and stunted growth, so that delayed them a bit, noobie mistake, but they've recovered nicely and everything looks beautiful now. I really did do a lot of research before this, I'm hoping for 2 lbs. total harvest, that's about 2 oz's/plant, so I want to veg them as long as possible. Currently I'm planning to flower them anywhere between Dec. 10th - Christmas, but I'll just have to see, really it'll happen when 75% of my screen is full.

Thanks for all your compliments, I'll try and update the pictures a little more often, also if you want any pictures of anything taken let me know.

Your plants look beautiful!! :rasta: That one with 4 tops is a monster :thumbsup:

[Splifted]

I am using some generic soil mix from osh with 3/4 soil, 1/4 perlite and a pinch of dolimitic lime. Next time, I'm going to do closer to 50/50 cause I'm having a lot of problems with compaction right now. I'm feeding them Fox Farms Grow Big at around 6-7cc/gal right now, Liquid Karma about 5cc/gal, and Super-Thrive B1 (8cc/gal every other watering). Every third watering is just R/O H20, no nutes. At about 3 weeks I think I shocked a lot of my plants, some of them definitely had nutrient burn and they began growing 1 and 3-pronged leaves and stunted growth, so that delayed them a bit, noobie mistake, but they've recovered nicely and everything looks beautiful now. I really did do a lot of research before this, I'm hoping for 2 lbs. total harvest, that's about 2 oz's/plant, so I want to veg them as long as possible. Currently I'm planning to flower them anywhere between Dec. 10th - Christmas, but I'll just have to see, really it'll happen when 75% ofy screen is full.

Thanks for all your compliments, I'll try and update the pictures a little more often, also if you want any pictures of anything taken let me know.

Your plants look beautiful!! :rasta: That one with 4 tops is a monster :thumbsup:

Haha, the similarities between us noobs is crazy. For our final transplant, we also used 3/4 generic organic soil mixed with 1/4 perlite with some dolomitic lime mixed in as well. And we fed grow big and big bloom & superthrive, every other watering, except the superthrive which was every watering.

I assume when you say you're having problems with compaction, you are talking about when you try to water it doesn't want to go right in and kinda pool up where the dirt has hardened? I had that problem, where the soil kinda bricked up and it wouldn't get wet under the surface and the water would just run down the sides of the pot instead of absorbing.

If thats the problem, try adding a dash of liquid dish soap into your water before watering, it acts as a wetting agent which nullifies the surface tension of the water, keeping it from beading up, and making it absorb more readily into soil. It also keeps any splashed up water from beading up on the leaves.

Dish soap is also used as an emulsifying agent & wetting agent when mixing up some neem oil to spray on. It allows the neem oil to mix with water, since you know water and oil don't mix, as well as making the leaves get nice and evenly wet, instead of it beading up and running off. Just a nice little trick i picked up somewhere.

[Dan K.]

Haha, the similarities between us noobs is crazy. For our final transplant, we also used 3/4 generic organic soil mixed with 1/4 perlite with some dolomitic lime mixed in as well. And we fed grow big and big bloom & superthrive, every other watering, except the superthrive which was every watering.

I assume when you say you're having problems with compaction, you are talking about when you try to water it doesn't want to go right in and kinda pool up where the dirt has hardened? I had that problem, where the soil kinda bricked up and it wouldn't get wet under the surface and the water would just run down the sides of the pot instead of absorbing.

If thats the problem, try adding a dash of liquid dish soap into your water before watering, it acts as a wetting agent which nullifies the surface tension of the water, keeping it from beading up, and making it absorb more readily into soil. It also keeps any splashed up water from beading up on the leaves.

Dish soap is also used as an emulsifying agent & wetting agent when mixing up some neem oil to spray on. It allows the neem oil to mix with water, since you know water and oil don't mix, as well as making the leaves get nice and evenly wet, instead of it beading up and running off. Just a nice little trick i picked up somewhere.


I was talking more along the lines of every time we water, the soil becomes more compact in the pot so we're constantly having to add new soil to avoid the roots being exposed. Does that make sense??

I'll look into the liquid soap, I think I'm going to start using molasses as well to give my weed a little better flavor. We decided to throw up the screen today so I'll let you know,

Kevin

[Splifted]

I was talking more along the lines of every time we water, the soil becomes more compact in the pot so we're constantly having to add new soil to avoid the roots being exposed. Does that make sense??

I'll look into the liquid soap, I think I'm going to start using molasses as well to give my weed a little better flavor. We decided to throw up the screen today so I'll let you know,

Kevin


We've been feeding with organic natural cane brown sugar, and as soon as we run out we're gonna switch to molasses. Can't wait to see that screen. I'm going to look at the girls tomorrow, I'll get more pics. 4 days makes such a difference during flowering.

[cture]

Dan K. What type of lamp are you using?

[stinkyattic]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here, the newer growths are a lighter shade of green, but that's perfectly natural, other than that the plants are all the same shade of green, it could just be the light bouncing off of the mylar and creating the illusion of different shades.
Yeah- they look fine actually. Very nice.

As for the superthrive, you're going to want to lay off it very soon, so there's none left in the dirt when you flower.

This is a great looking grow. One of those early LST pics was just awesome. I can't wait to hear how that romulan comes out. Yummy.

[Dan K.]

Dan K. What type of lamp are you using?

We're using a 1000W MH/HPS bulbs with an air cooled hood. The air cooling helps but it still can get as hot as 83-84 in the room during sunny days. the last 3-4 days has been pretty cool so it's only been about 75-76 in the room. Our set-up is in the attic so the intensity of the sun plays a big factor.

[Dan K.]

Yeah- they look fine actually. Very nice.

As for the superthrive, you're going to want to lay off it very soon, so there's none left in the dirt when you flower.

This is a great looking grow. One of those early LST pics was just awesome. I can't wait to hear how that romulan comes out. Yummy.

I don't use Super Thrive, I'm using Thrive Alive B-1 (red), according to justaseed's ScroG grow he uses it all the way through flowering, so that's what I was planning on doing. LMK though,

Dan K.

P.S. The local dispensary we purchased the Romulan clone from had some of that same Romulan in stock for sale, and let me tell you it's out of this world. That's why we bought one of the last clones despite the fact that it was a pretty shitty one.

[stinkyattic]

Thrive alive is about the same thing and I wouldn't use it either for flower, but I'm curious to see someone do a controlled with/without experiment. Anyway keep up the nice work! :D

[Dan K.]

Update time!!! WOO!!! Well, first off we threw the screens on, and, although it has been a PITA, we have successfully started training and watering them through the screen (thanks to a plastic tubing/PVC pipe attachment we made). The Snocap are all looking amazing, I'm thinking we'll flower probably in about a week and a half. As always, comments/suggestions/anything are appreciated.

Kevin

[smokin dope]

Hey dan,

have you been using the 1000hps the entire time since you planted? I have 12 I just planted yesterday, I put my 1000 on for about 6 hours then switched to my tube'd flouresants. Just wondering when you would reccomend to put my hps on.

[Dan K.]

Goddamn I have a bunch of pics to post but for some reason cannabis.com isn't letting me upload them, I'll keep trying but I don't know what's wrong.

As far as your ? goes, HPS doesn't really have the best light spectrum for vegging, that's why I'm using a MH bulb now and switching over to HPS for flowering, I don't know how good your fluorescents are but I would probably stay with those until you flower.

Hope that helps!

[Dan K.]

batch 1: the baby clones, the wilty ones were watered right after pics were taken...

1: Romulan

2 & 3: Goo

4: S.S.H

5: Grape Ape

[Dan K.]

here are all the recently ScroGged snocap, sorry if these pictures are a little small but the next ones will be bigger...

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, Dan K. Looking good. Looking forward to seeing them bud. I will be keeping up with this now, as I am very interested in seeing some scrogs. Last time I saw a good one was justaseed's, and that one is the grail to which to aspire. :thumbsup:

Kicka$$!

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

TGF

[Dan K.]

Hey, Dan K. Looking good. Looking forward to seeing them bud. I will be keeping up with this now, as I am very interested in seeing some scrogs. Last time I saw a good one was justaseed's, and that one is the grail to which to aspire. :thumbsup:

Kicka$$!

:rastasmoke: RastafarI

TGF

lol, that's how I feel as well, like stated several times before I am trying to model my grow as much as I can after justaseed, hopefully I can get half the results!!! LOL damn he had 3-4 oz.'s per plant, I'll be lucky if I can get 2!

[orangeman]

I have a question about SCRoG'ing because that and LST'ing is probably how I'll be growing my plants indoors to try and get the most out of my lights. Do you just set up a screen and just switch to flowering when your plants grow through the screen? Also if you don't have clones is this method possible to do with male plants? I dunno how hard it'd be to cut out the male plants once they started growing through the screen without fucking it all up lol, I never really got interested in growing with an advanced technique indoors until recently. I realized it doesn't make much sense to try to grow plants traditionally indoors if you aren't gonna have alot of fuckin lights lol.

[Dan K.]

I have a question about SCRoG'ing because that and LST'ing is probably how I'll be growing my plants indoors to try and get the most out of my lights. Do you just set up a screen and just switch to flowering when your plants grow through the screen? Also if you don't have clones is this method possible to do with male plants? I dunno how hard it'd be to cut out the male plants once they started growing through the screen without fucking it all up lol, I never really got interested in growing with an advanced technique indoors until recently. I realized it doesn't make much sense to try to grow plants traditionally indoors if you aren't gonna have alot of fuckin lights lol.

lol, too true about the lights. This is my first time doing ScroG as well, but from what I can observe/understand, I'm going to switch over to 12/12 (flowering) when it is around 75% full of tops. The goal is that the remaining 25% of the screen will be filled in the pre-flower stretch period. I wouldn't try ScroG without clones because of what you said, I'm sure it would be a bitch to cut a male out once it grew into the screen.

So far, I've been really happy with the results of LST, and now that I'm actually beginning my own ScroG, I understand how it works better and I think it has the potential to produce serious results. GL,

Daniel K. :jointsmile: :bong:

[orangeman]

Ah alright, well thanks for the info :D. Btw those plants are lookin lovely! I can't wait to see them flower!!! :stoned:

[Dan K.]

Alrighty, the screen has been up for about 5-6 days now and it's starting to fill out nicely!! I think I'm going to switch them over to 12/12 on Tuesday or Wednesday, it's getting to be about that time. We transplanted the baby plants to larger 3 gallon pots in preperation for flowering, we're probably not going to get a whole lot from them given that they're so small but it'll be worth it no matter what:D

As always, comments/suggestions always appreciated, happy toking :joint1:

Dan K.

[Dan K.]

more pics, the last 2 are of super silver haze

[Dan K.]

In order: romulan, goo, grape ape

[Cornelius]

i don't know about anybody else but i like where this is going...:dance:

[Dan K.]

i don't know about anybody else but i like where this is going...:dance:

me too :giggity: :giggity:

:Tomcat:

lol some of these smilies are ridiculous

[canuck grower]

Hey kevin,

Any updates on your girls?! They look like they're doing really well in those last pics just under the screen. For your first grow you must've done some reading because that looks like a pretty decent set up.

I'm also doing my first grow and we probably started flowering around the same time. We've got 4 girls, one on the fence still (I think it might be a she) and we are LSTing 3 of those.

Anyway you really should update this log. My next grow will most likely be a SCRoG so I'll be following this thread for sure. Take it easy! :jointsmile:

-canuck

[trichome city area]

Hey Kevin, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, that's a nice grow you have going on...your screen has a wider mesh than I've grown with in the past, I like regular old chicken wire but yours looks nice and sturdy. Just to be sure you get an even canopy with no buckling of the screen tie it down to the floor with a cup hook or two and some fishing line or picture hanging wire. You will be suprised at how vigorous the growth can be during flowering...can't wait to see your pics in the next few weeks...peace.

[justaseed]

scog is my favorite growing technique. with a 1kw scrog i can't wait to see the yeild!! i pulled close to a pound from my 400hps scrog regularly. personally with scrog i like to use fewer plants vegged for longer periods. also i never liked to scrog more than 1 seed plant under the same screen. they grow to differently(even the same strain). individual screens is a much better idea with seed plants, once you have a mother and use clones 1 large screen is the way to go. from my experience the more you train the first 2 weeks of 12/12 the better the yeild will be. also 1 inch plastic screen works the best. i have tried all different sizes and that was by far the best yeilder. i can't pass up the chance so here it is, this is what my scrogs look like about 6 days into flower just for an idea of what it should look like at that point ..... use twisties to tie(loosely) the branches to the screen instead of weaving, it's much easier/faster. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK i am looking soooooo forward to watching this grow!!

[canuck grower]

justaseed, I'm sure you don't mind hearing (again) that your lovely ladies! grow was really awesome. That was the first I heard of scrog but pretty much right away I started reading about it and LST because it's clearly so efficient for small spaces. Thanks for all the details about your feeding and everything too. I'm not following any one person's method exactly but I am reading many and trying out different things here and there.

-canuck :jointsmile:

[Dan K.]

sorry about the lack of updates, my camera fell from the attic while i was taking pictures and is now broken, fuck. also ive been at home the past week (away from my plants), but when I get back ill take pic for sure, theyre like 12 days into flowering now

[justaseed]

i can't wait to see what they look like now. try to count all the tops you have at this point. i once took a pic looking staight down at the screen on about day 14 and used the computer to count the tops and there were well over 200 on a 2ftx4ft screen! imagine how many you're gonna get!!!!

[Dan K.]

Alright, finally an update, my ladies are about a month into flowering now and everything is going alright, I've made a couple of mistakes as this is my first grow, I don't think the yield is going to be quite what I'm expecting as the screen just didn't fill out at all like I had hoped. I've learned a lot, and I'm still going to enjoy my harvest!

How are the buds looking for a month in?

[Dan K.]

A couple more pics

The first one is what happens when you're a busy college student and you forget to water your thirsty plant for far too long :(

[Dan K.]

35 Days Into Flower

Or about that much, I flowered them Dec. 11th, so you do the math!

Everything is looking really good, I'm stoked and the buds are really starting to get fat and crystaly. Also, in case you can't tell from the pictures, the Grape Ape has started purpling, so I'm very excited about that.

The first two pics are Super Silver, the next three are Grape Ape

[Dan K.]

The next two are Goo, and the two after that are Romulan, which has by far grown to be the tallest plant

[Dan K.]

Alright, finally, the Snocap screen

[santacruz_organic]

lookin good:thumbsup:

[canuck grower]

Yeah dude looking very delicious! Romulan sounds pretty kick ass from what I've read and seen about it, I mean just look how well your little clone did.

You're only a few days ahead of me in flower, and I'm growing random bagseed, but for what it's worth some of your plants have bigger buds and are more frostly than mine around the same point in their lives. :jointsmile:

[Dan K.]

Yeah dude looking very delicious! Romulan sounds pretty kick ass from what I've read and seen about it, I mean just look how well your little clone did.

You're only a few days ahead of me in flower, and I'm growing random bagseed, but for what it's worth some of your plants have bigger buds and are more frostly than mine around the same point in their lives. :jointsmile:

lol, thanks, Romulan was stretchier than any of my other plants, but it looks like it's going to be one of the if not the biggest yielder, we'll see though. The clone I got was the last one at the dispensary I went to, I'm really happy to see it doing so well.

I'm glad that my buds are doing well, it's nice to hear someone else say that, and the majority are starting to frost up quite nice. Thanks for the comment,

Dan K.

[Dan K.]

BTW, nutrients right now consist of:

Liquid Karma
FF Tiger Bloom
FF Big Bloon

[Dan K.]

So I guess that makes it a little over 6 weeks, damn I didn't realize it had been that long already, I'll probably give them nutrients one more time and then start flushing, looking at mid-February harvest. How does everyone think the buds are looking, any help or comments on this would be greatly appreciated

Pic 1 & 2 are Romulan, Pic 3 is S.S.H., Pic 4 is Goo on the left and Grape Ape on the right, Pic 5 is the kola of Grape Ape getting big and turning purple

[Dan K.]

Pic 1: What I have been using to water my plants

Pic 2: My plants new best friend

Pic 3: The left Snocap screen

Pic 4: The right Snocap screen, they're both doing ok but I don't think I'm going to grow snocap ever again, I would much rather grow more of the plants I only had 1 of this time

Pic 5: The 1000W HPS doing its thing

[Dan K.]

Some macro shots of each strain

Pic 1: Romulan

Pic 2: S.S.H

Pic 3: Goo

Pic 4: Grape Ape

Pic 5: Snocap

[Dan K.]

One issue I'm having is spider mites, they're currently on a couple of my snocaps and I caught them early, haven't seen any signs of them in about a week but I know they're still there, I'm using the Schultz 3-in-1 Miticide, Pesticide, Fungicide spray right now on my plants every other day, when should I stop this so it won't affect the taste of my harvest and do you think this is sufficient pest control?

[canuck grower]

Man those all look really great! Grape Ape looks so cool. Romulan looks like a champ. :jointsmile: Your buds are filling out nicely.

[Racerx]

mmm the grape ape looks yummy!

Question, why did you do scrog if you didnt bend the plants down and weave the branches? Or maybe I am just not looking close enough?

[Dan K.]

mmm the grape ape looks yummy!

Question, why did you do scrog if you didnt bend the plants down and weave the branches? Or maybe I am just not looking close enough?

I think I understand what you're saying, the reason I did SCROG was because of height constraints, what the screen did is allow me to guide growth outwards instead of upwards by continuously moving the tops further out instead of up, I also LST'ed the plants if thats what you mean by bend the plants down. The front 4 were not ScroGged because I got them about three weeks into the veg cycle of the snocap so they didn't have time to grow as tall.

If I ScroG again, I would like to try weaving the branches into the screen rather than just guiding them, that would probably give much more light exposure to the lower bud sites and create the huge amount of tops I know is possible, but oh well, first time grow, live and learn!

[matagalpiano]

HEY MAN I WAS WONDERING WHAT LIGHT VARIATION DID YOU USE FOR YOUR SNOCAP IN THE VEGETATIVE STAGE

[msalen]

that ssh look nice , good job dank

[Mr.Blue]

my next grow is gona be romulan haze i picked them up at a local seed bank.....looks good

[MajMike]

This is with 255 watts of CFL, spectrum appropriate, in a 6 sq ft scrog.

[Weedhound]

Nice scrog! Well done. :thumbsup: