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GHoSToKeR
11-04-2004, 03:33 PM
When did governments stop being there to protect us, to serve us, to help us live free, happy, normal lives, and start taking away our rights, being greedy, ignoring us, controlling us, and only being out for themselves?
Discuss lol
sampson419
11-04-2004, 04:05 PM
Ughhhhhhhh bro, don't really care to discuss this shit right now
roll it up
11-04-2004, 04:13 PM
pretty much when weed was made illegal bro
RESiNATE
11-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Oh GHoST...my finger tips are hurting from earlier rants, gimme a break! ( ;) )
Ok, seeing as you asked *rubs some Atrixo into fingers*:
When they realised that oil was running out, and that the Earth is going into self-destruct.
Instead of thinking: "Ok, the world is coming to it's natural 'reorganisation' period, and we need to start thinking about how we can at least prepare or curtail it's intentions"
They think: "Right, as it stands, the Arabs have all the oil and are going to hold the world to ransome - we need to kill them quick...so, keep on pumping out those noctious fumes that are killing Mother Nature, because we need to keep th e war machine going!!"
FFS!
I hope the world explodes, I really do -I know that sounds so defeatist, but think about it - How do we change the course of action?
It's quite easy really...all we have to do is to stop thinking about ourselves, and start thinking about the whole.
But, you know what? It aint never gonna happen!
Why?
Because we are human.
Plain and simple.
The problem lies with the people and their selfish struggle to get out of the world what they can, with a â??whatâ??s in it for meâ?? mentality. Societyâ??s protocol is there as a guideline only, therefore it must be the interpretation of that protocol, which is passed down to us by the ones who have the most influence in our lives during those early years.
Now if we take into consideration for a moment that some parents or guardians have already adopted a â??whatâ??s in it for meâ?? mentality, then we can assume that not only are we receiving a worldwide view, but also some less than desirable attributes or character traits, believing that this too is acceptable.
As children we copy behavioural patterns set by the influential people in our lives and from that, we eventually learn how to stand on our own two feet and, be a respected member of society.
However if those early lessons are fraught with negativity, selfishness and greed, then we will find troublesome areas throughout life. Relationship issues, work related problems and socialising concerns all find a place in our lives, resulting in some form of conflict or another, with the addition of confusion and depression for some.
The protocol is now manipulated and abused, giving an inaccurate interpretation of it.
maryjanemama
11-04-2004, 04:25 PM
Res, aren't you only 35 or 36? You're killing me with this old man stuff! :p
It all when down the shitter when it began costing millions of dollars to run a decent campaign. And when religion starts getting in the way of ppl's person freedom. But back to the money issue, I think a hell of a lot more ppl whould've voted for the Lib party this year if they'd known there was a candidate actually running. Of course, without money for advertising how is the general public supposed to know?
RESiNATE
11-04-2004, 04:38 PM
Res, aren't you only 35 or 36? You're killing me with this old man stuff! :p
And when religion starts getting in the way of ppl's person freedom.
hehehe...I'm older than I am ;)
Comes from having my eyes opened from an early age...
Now then, religion....
Religion is a set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. If we adopt the same mentality to religion as we did for the comfy slippers scenario, we can appreciate the familiarity and dependency that faith brings forth.
The diversity of religion exists because of the indecision to make a commitment to any one-belief structure. The reason being for this is due to the discrepancies found within religion, and a sense of awareness that not all is right with its teachings. Independent thought demonstrates the flaws that contradict our conditioning, resulting in indecisive action, when finding the right faith.
Religious beliefs help fill the void of our sentient essence, enabling us to accept that we will live on in spirit when we leave this world behind. Sentience, being nothing more than our own consciousness, an awareness of oneself, has allowed us to evolve and believe we are superior to others that share this planet with us.
Our own egotistical actions created religion to satiate certain aspects of that conscious essence, leading us to believe that sentience allows us a superior position upon this planet.
We find ourselves falsely conditioned into believing that we should follow the religious teachings of numerous belief structures, with a view to obtaining some kind of immortality.
Recognition of self-awareness has prompted us to question its existence, with many of those questions remaining unanswered, and leaving us to fill in the gaps as we go along. Religion is born to satiate these thoughts, as we struggle to understand sentience.
Self-awareness, often misconstrued has a Divine influence in our lives, finds ourselves recognising sentient essence and acknowledge it in such a way that we actually delude ourselves into thinking God is watching over us.
We attempt to analyse this awareness and satiate it with whatever answers that should present themselves and remain in ignorance about our own purpose. Sentience needs to be defined within its own merits and not disguised by ignorance or misguided thought.
When identifying self-awareness, removing any religious connotations from the onset would aid in a more open-minded approach while addressing this issue. We are then able to recognise our own evolutional development and identify the purpose of sentience.
Due to a lack of acceptable answers, the Divine influence, now called upon, fills the gap where those questions remain confusing or unexplainable. We in turn allow religion to disguise a gift of sentience because we cannot accept our own evolutional progress.
Sentience often confused with immortality, allows religion to fill in the missing pieces. We identify how we compensate the lack of understanding about our own evolutional development and replace it with a belief structure, which allows the knowledge of sentient existence to become acceptable and easily digestible. After all, self-awareness clearly demonstrates our superior role in the scheme of things.
The influence of religion offers a doorway to those many unanswered questions that we have about our own existence, allowing room for acceptance when addressing sentience and rewarding it with promises of immortality, should we choose a religious following. Firm belief in God can aid in the search for a more rewarding life and offers a sense of purpose, but if that purpose is false, are we then misguided?
The recognition of sentience allows us to believe we have a greater purpose upon this planet, when in fact it is nothing more than the next step in our evolution. Yet our attitudes cannot accept such and we go on to demonstrate false belief in God/s, to compensate the lack of acceptable answers we have about our sentient awareness.
Sentient recognition demonstrates self-awareness, a conscious familiarity that endeavours to provoke self-purpose, individuality and evolution. Independence is a result of this recognition and a good example of how we can utilise this knowledge for the greater good, enabling the true purpose of sentience to become defined and allowing self-understanding to be evident.
The religious connotations in our lives allow us to satiate an otherwise confusing aspect of our existence, clearly defining the importance of purpose and the lack of information to make sense of it. We compensate for that lack of information by incorporating religion and adhering to its teachings, with the hope that some knowledgeable understanding about our existence will become clear in doing so.
Damn, my fingers hurt :mad: ;)
Byker
11-04-2004, 04:47 PM
When did governments stop being there to protect us, to serve us, to help us live free, happy, normal lives, and start taking away our rights, being greedy, ignoring us, controlling us, and only being out for themselves?
1798: The Alien and Sedition Acts.
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The last of the laws, the Sedition Act, passed on July 14 declared that any treasonable activity, including the publication of "any false, scandalous and malicious writing," was a high misdemeanor, punishable by fine and imprisonment. By virtue of this legislation twenty-five men, most of them editors of [Democratic] Republican* newspapers, were arrested and their newspapers forced to shut down.
One of the men arrested was Benjamin Franklin's grandson, Benjamin Franklin Bache, editor of the Philadelphia Democrat-Republican Aurora. Charged with libeling President Adams, Bache's arrest erupted in a public outcry against all of the Alien and Sedition Acts.
Many Americans questioned the constitutionality of these laws. Indeed, public opposition to the Alien and Sedition Acts was so great that they were in part responsible for the election of Thomas Jefferson, a Republican, to the presidency in 1800. Once in office, Jefferson pardoned all those convicted under the Sedition Act, while Congress restored all fines paid with interest.
http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/sedition/
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* The Democratic Republican Party is the forerunner of today's Democratic Party. The opposition to that party were the Federalists, who folded after 1800.
Don't kid yourself. Achieving and maintaining civil rights has always been a struggle. That it seems new today shows how much better our generation has had it than previous ones.
Just wait to see whom Bush appoints to the Supreme Court. Can you say, "Good bye, Roe v. Wade; hello, forced pregnancies!"? Sure ya can!
Frankly, I wonder how long places like this will remain open.
:confused:
RESiNATE
11-04-2004, 04:54 PM
Frankly, I wonder how long places like this will remain open.
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It's like, they can see what we're talking about here..so they keep it open, because to close it will just force it underground....
How does that saying go?: Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer......
:cool:
clevemire
11-04-2004, 05:04 PM
Ughhhhhhhh bro, don't really care to discuss this shit right nowAgreed. We all know this whole planet is going to Shitsville, no matter what happens. Personally, I'd prefer to focus on the good that's left, but that's me.
The government's reasoning and methods are obvious, but of course not at all justifiable.
Bro DZ
11-04-2004, 05:45 PM
Ghostoker, what the hell made you think government was ever ment to help the masses? The way I see it, government was formed only to control us... never to help steer humanity in any good direction, just to make the people smart enough to control everyone rich and fat and happy. Anarchy is the only way to go LoL
or atleast some sort of constitutional republic like the US just with far more public control... i dont think its possible though... the old rich ex-royalty families seem to have a firm grip on everything :(
maryjanemama
11-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Agreed. We all know this whole planet is going to Shitsville, no matter what happens. Personally, I'd prefer to focus on the good that's left, but that's me.
Wow. I read that quickly and thought you said the only good left was you and I thought, "I'd like to be the judge of that!" ;) :p
clevemire
11-04-2004, 06:54 PM
Wow. I read that quickly and thought you said the only good left was you and I thought, "I'd like to be the judge of that!" ;) :p Woooo! I can see how you got that impression from that statement. ;)
Oh well.. when yer sick and stuck at work, clarification is the last thing on your mind heheh.
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