WHY ARE WE AT WAR?!

[Inferius]

THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.
We are killing our fellow human being!

We are making weapons that have NO other use than to destroy eachother.

What the fuck?

WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE?

[jamstigator]

War is the best way we've come up with to curb human overpopulation!

[dryst]

besides...fire and burning stuff is fun :D

[slipknotpsycho]

just so you know, like later on when you can't find your thread it's cuz it got moved to like political or something <.< lol

and i stopped worrying about that shit along time ago, it's always gonna happen, always gonna be there til something destorys us or we destroy each other... we've been killing each other since we figured out how to throw rocks and sharpen sticks.... and if you think about it, if there wasn't so much war the world would get over populated... i mean don't get me wrong, but think of it logically, to even it out then we'd just get more disease... it's life.

[fasterspider]

Population control sounds like a good reason for war but the war the US is involved in is so GWB can keep his oil money, it is all about oil and broadcasting to the world that the US has the stupidest mother fuckers on earth running it.
I could do better but I am not allowed near the White House.
Oil is the root of the promblem and has been since they found the reserves under the ground over there. I have an easy solution for this problem and it is called Nuclear Bombs. I would vaporize the whole middle East and kill every single resident. Then and only then would it be safe to go in and take the oil.
If they let them live, they will come here and cause more hassle. Kill them all, they serve no purpose anyways and contribute nothing of any use to humanity.

Death and destruction to the Middle East {except for Morocco and small parts of Afganistan because of the quality of THC products produced there}

[slipknotpsycho]

lol... rofl... lmfao!!! and you are worried about our image to the world and 'the stupidest people on earth running it' yet that's your idea of a better job???

omg rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl .... oh man you've made my sides hurt.

[slipknotpsycho]

oh man that's so slapped full of saturated irony that i just can't believe what i'm actually reading.. omg rofl... my stomach hurts... lmfao... omg...

[mrdevious]

We're at war in Iraq to protect our freedoms. If it wasn't for brave men like George Bush, the forces of Saddam (and possibly Satan) would have this entire continent under occupation right now!

[jamstigator]

Not Satan, he's busy arranging his big party, Hell on Earth 2006! Man, don't you watch the news...er, I mean South Park?!

[eg420ne]

We're at war in Iraq to protect our freedoms. If it wasn't for brave men like George Bush, the forces of Saddam (and possibly Satan) would have this entire continent under occupation right now!

You cant be serial can you?

[SkatePopwar]

because all these big men in suits and ties are acting like small children fighting over a toy

[SkatePopwar]

except small children do not take lives, and these animals do without second thought

[andruejaysin]

We are making weapons that have NO other use than to destroy eachother.

Incorrect. They make those who own the arms companies rich.

[Hamlet]

Cuz up from the Ground came a bubblin' Crude...Oil that is...Black Gold...Texas Tea

[Talulah]

The problem is simple. People who don't smoke pot are more full of anger, and more likely to do something like... cause a false war based off incorrect information.

[mrdevious]

You cant be serial can you?


I'm super serial.

[the yeag]

I'm super serial.
your super gay you lame ass canadian:D

[Bong30]

With all due respect............... NONE


Most of you guys are to Dumb to even know what the fuck is going on.



In Islam....you must die a Marter to be saved. 72 virgins blah blah

In christianity.... Jesus died so we can live.....

Can you see the Basic diff there.........?


We are in Iraq Fighting a Religon that wants all you dumb asses dead.....(or convert)

Wake the fuck up.

[Ignatius]

Bong 30, the voice of sanity.

If only he could spell martyr.

Or the word "too".

Keep 'em coming Tarzan...

[andruejaysin]

At this point the only reason we are at war is so GW doesn't have to admit he was wrong. And those like dong30 would watch thousands more americans die before they can face that.

[Bong30]

Bong 30, the voice of sanity.

If only he could spell martyr.

Or the word "too".

Keep 'em coming Tarzan...
Thanks... did you not understand what i was saying?

I like to type like people Talk.... i dont spell, or type correctly but im right on point.

Why dont you try debating one of my points.....?

Do you want to be a MARTYR?

Are you just going right to the personal attack, cause you dont know shit? How is it going over there in Londostan, how about France? They are going through a great time right now.

any thoughts on those points? or are you just going to be my personal spell checker?


I could call you my little "spell bitch"........but with a cool british accent.:thumbsup:

Hows about that Jane? keep em coming......:D

[Bong30]

At this point the only reason we are at war is so GW doesn't have to admit he was wrong. And those like dong30 would watch thousands more americans die before they can face that.

Are you going to be Ok when Gdub is gone? Get ready for hard core depression. Look up "term limits" and get back to me:thumbsup:

BTw Gdub isnt my boy, he is a dissapointment on many things......

Im sure its OK for Americans to die from Radical Islam, But we cant take the fight to them....... You are the Text book bleeding hart Liberal.

War makes peace.......got to break eggs to make an omlet.

look at
Japan
Germany
USA, revolution, Civil, Mexican( will happen again)

I wont wake some Gay joke about you stupid name MMMMmmmmK:thumbsup:

[Markass]

With all due respect............... NONE


Most of you guys are to Dumb to even know what the fuck is going on.



In Islam....you must die a Marter to be saved. 72 virgins blah blah

In christianity.... Jesus died so we can live.....

Can you see the Basic diff there.........?


We are in Iraq Fighting a Religon that wants all you dumb asses dead.....(or convert)

Wake the fuck up.

...but why is it our fellow Americans and our tax dollars must be in Iraq? They need to be here, and be used here. That's what they're for. You can tell me all you want that we're in Iraq to protect our lives and I wont believe you..Soldiers better protect the lives of us if they're on our soil, not in a country thousands of miles away. Let them kill each other if they want to, but it's not our problem...Sadaam is gone, that's what we were going to do..but it turned into now that we're fighting these extremists...well they weren't as extreme against us until we stayed over there and kept fucking with them...I think bush is a tyrant, and had he not been president at the time of 9/11 we wouldn't be in a war with Iraq right now.

[andruejaysin]

We are in Iraq Fighting a Religon that wants all you dumb asses dead.....(or convert)

Wake the fuck up.I almost don't want to say this, you'll probably never ride in a car again, but.... You are far more likely (even in 2001) to be killed by a drunk driver than by a terrorist. Dude, you maybe should quit weed and try xanax or valium. You're as paranoid as pisshead, and neither of you realize it.

[Markass]

There's too many domestic issues that time and effort should be directed to over the fucking war in Iraq...

[Bong30]

I almost don't want to say this, you'll probably never ride in a car again, but.... You are far more likely (even in 2001) to be killed by a drunk driver than by a terrorist. Dude, you maybe should quit weed and try xanax or valium. You're as paranoid as pisshead, and neither of you realize it.

WRONG again... you could Be pro......

When Iw as driving down the street and look up and notice that the high way is closed im like WTF is going on to close the Highway, I-70 btw

Some Radical Muslim was claiming Jihad and killing people down the street from my house. MY HOUSE

9-11 happened, and yes Jihad is a Important part to my life. as in, im not going to convert or DIE.

I need some Valium though... I have a crick im my neck today....slept on it wrong.

When your a Dad, and you fatherly instincs kick in, and you take threats to your way of life a little more seriously. You will see where im coming from

[Bong30]

...but why is it our fellow Americans and our tax dollars must be in Iraq? They need to be here, and be used here. That's what they're for. You can tell me all you want that we're in Iraq to protect our lives and I wont believe you..Soldiers better protect the lives of us if they're on our soil, not in a country thousands of miles away. Let them kill each other if they want to, but it's not our problem...Sadaam is gone, that's what we were going to do..but it turned into now that we're fighting these extremists...well they weren't as extreme against us until we stayed over there and kept fucking with them...I think bush is a tyrant, and had he not been president at the time of 9/11 we wouldn't be in a war with Iraq right now.

Would it be ok if they had attacked us here again?

Do you remember Kuwait? Did Saddam show his true colors during the Iran -IRaq War,( useing wmds on his own people) and Over taking Kuwait?
Wasnt Kuwait a sovereign counrty? He had a track record of being very unstable to the region.

Look at a Map

See afganistan

See Iraq

what is in the middle?

if you were thinking long term wouldnt you want troops on bolth side of IRAN?

Iran Is going to get Nukes from either North Korea, Or make them them selves.

Do I need to get into the 12th Imam stuff?

Just google it............:dance:

[andruejaysin]

Im sure its OK for Americans to die from Radical Islam, But we cant take the fight to them....... You are the Text book bleeding hart Liberal.
I have no problem fighting radical islam, I wish when GW said we were gonna get the people who attacked us he'd meant it. But afganistani has no oil, and opium isn't his drug of choice, so he chose to fail there. Sending enough troops to win would have derailed his plans in iraq. And ahab had to chase his whale, he can't help it. Iraq wasn't bothering us until we decided to invade them. That's why the CONSERVATIVE foriegn policy has always been avoid foriegn wars when possible, and win them when you can't. If you haven't noticed he's managed to do neither. And I thought conservatives favored small government, how do you reconcile that with the biggest spending and biggest deficits in history? And don't they want the government out of peoples lives to the extent that is possible? But wait, that wouldn't fit well with reading peoples e-mails, listening to their phone calls, snooping through their bank accounts, telling them who they can marry, what news they can see, what birth control they can use. You don't have a conservative idea.

[Ignatius]

Well said that man.

America has no business in Iraq, that's not where radical Islam lived.

Bush has fucked it up.

Idiot.

[Bong30]

Bush Is an Idiot.....

Look at a Map


see Iraq? See Afganistan? Iran Is the head of the Muslim snake. where would you want to be?

On each side of the snake. You guys cant see the big picture cause of your hate for Bush.


Remember Kuwait...... saddam was a stable leader.... you people are dumb.

He useD WMDs on his own peole....(WE SOLD THEM TO HIM, THATS HOW WE KNOW HE HAD THEM).....

it was time for Saddam to be gone..... It is fucked up in Iraq now, but cut and run like we did in Viet nam..No Thanks



What about the 12 million Iraqis that risked there lives to vote?


It is time for Iraq to Defend its self.... Yes

Cut and Run like Pussies, and wait to be hit here at Home...FUCK NO

[Bong30]

I have no problem fighting radical islam, I wish when GW said we were gonna get the people who attacked us he'd meant it. But afganistani has no oil, and opium isn't his drug of choice, so he chose to fail there. Sending enough troops to win would have derailed his plans in iraq. And ahab had to chase his whale, he can't help it. Iraq wasn't bothering us until we decided to invade them. That's why the CONSERVATIVE foriegn policy has always been avoid foriegn wars when possible, and win them when you can't. If you haven't noticed he's managed to do neither. And I thought conservatives favored small government, how do you reconcile that with the biggest spending and biggest deficits in history? And don't they want the government out of peoples lives to the extent that is possible? But wait, that wouldn't fit well with reading peoples e-mails, listening to their phone calls, snooping through their bank accounts, telling them who they can marry, what news they can see, what birth control they can use. You don't have a conservative idea.

The awnser to the question is so easy BUSH is no Conservative.

so easy...... we have this thing called term limits and the vote. He is gone.

[andruejaysin]

No, and it's amazing how few people realize it. Certainly a invasion of iran was part of the plan, but the plan failed to include troops to invade them with. Airstrikes are certainly possible, likely even. But they would set the nucleur program pack 2-3 years. That is not alot, considering the downsides. The good news is it's a uranium enrichment program. Simpler than plutonium, though simple is obviously the wrong word. But you can't build many bombs that way, and they're heavy.

[Eraserhead71]

oh man that's so slapped full of saturated irony that i just can't believe what i'm actually reading.. omg rofl... my stomach hurts... lmfao... omg...

haha true that

[Eraserhead71]

lol people cant even get along on this forum for christs sake so how are we supposed to fix a situation which involves the cooperation of whole world

[Eraserhead71]

It is time for Iraq to Defend its self.... Yes

Cut and Run like Pussies, and wait to be hit here at Home...FUCK NO

we're probably more likely to be attacked on our own soil NOW than we were before we went into iraq for the second time seeing as how now, we're actually in a war.

[Ignatius]

Bong30 did you appear in a 70s cartoon show called "Wait 'Til Your Father Get's Home?"

There was a guy in that who walked round in a flak jacket worrying about the communist menace. Fast forward 30 + years and here he is again, except this time it's Islam who's the enemy.

[Bong30]

we're probably more likely to be attacked on our own soil NOW than we were before we went into iraq for the second time seeing as how now, we're actually in a war.

Wrong........sorry,

US bombing in Libia

USS Cole

First Trade center....

Second trade center......the list goes for ever, BA can post it.


All Before Second Iraq war.....They were attacking us, we just attacked back.

THey dont wear a uniform..... Iran is funding insurgents in Iraq, Hezbullah in Libia....come on people...........

Now the first Iraq war.... you know desert shield and desert storm...........(after Saddam over ran the soverign country of Kuwait) That was one of OBL big beefs with america, Saudi Arabia letting us use There air bases.


Now they dont attack here or there they just attack us in Iraq......

We have the Bravest Soldiers in the world.

[Bong30]

Bong30 did you appear in a 70s cartoon show called "Wait 'Til Your Father Get's Home?"

There was a guy in that who walked round in a flak jacket worrying about the communist menace. Fast forward 30 + years and here he is again, except this time it's Islam who's the enemy.

Yup you are right good job......:thumbsup:

Communism is still a threat, cause it doesnt work.......IE look at Russia, no Profit motive...Blah Blah But to you Libs it sure sounds good.

But Radical Islam is like to the Nazi Movement in The 30s..... we are about 1938 in nazi Germany. You Liberals would be saying Hitler is missunderstood, he is a good guy. The president of Iran Is the new hitler. STFU with the bush is hitler he is gone in 2 years under term limits. Amad a Blah Blah Jab isnt under term limits.

He wants to get nukes to use them On Israel, to bring the 12th imam out of the well........

Im sure you know all of that though..........:thumbsup:

[letsburn06]

Aight ima settle this for u all right now in a well easy sort of way....I am a soldier in the united states army us being over there is bullshit becuase right now we r only there to keep the peace but hey if them fuckin towelheads wanna kill each other we should jsut let em n it not be our problem and when the war first started it was all for the oil trust me cuz i spent 12 months of my life guarding a damn oil field...and now the only excuse were there ic to help them build back up n keep the peace..bullshit let em kill each other.And by the way our president is a piece of crap the war is all for him had nothing to do with terrorism..that was jsut his excuse to go to war.

[Ignatius]

I've been misrepresented as a liberal on this board, but I'm in 100% agreement with you "letsburn06".

Why the fuck should you and others be out there risking your lives when the real enemy is at home in your fucking government.

[Bong30]

I've been misrepresented as a liberal on this board, but I'm in 100% agreement with you "letsburn06".

Why the fuck should you and others be out there risking your lives when the real enemy is at home in your fucking government.

The real enemy.....under term limits... so fucking stupid... can you walk and chew gum?


why dont you worry about your FUCKING goverment being over ran by Muslims.

you worry about this MMMMmmmmK

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Londonistan: How Britain is creating a terror state withinLondonistan: How Britain is creating a terror state within (ISBN 1-59403-144-4) is a book by journalist Melanie Phillips on the topic of the proliferation of Islamism in the United Kingdom over the past twenty years. The book is published in London by Encounter books.


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Overview
The book encompasses a critique of multiculturalism, weak policing, cultural relativism, and what she terms a 'victim culture'. She argues that these forces combined to create an ideal breeding ground for Islamic terrorists. She points to the centrality of London based individuals and groups to many terror plots around the world, which she argues were enabled by a semi-formal "covenant of security" between Islamists and the British authorities. Zacharias Moussaoui and shoebomber Richard Reid are two of many such examples she points to in the book.

According to Steven Emerson the book: "... exposes the scandalous appeasement of militant Islam by British officials, the media, even the Church of England, capturing in extraordinary detail how British society and institutions have either ignored or actively fostered the growth of extremist groups on British soil".



Tell you MOM and SIS to go get fitted for Berkas... they will need them

[Bong30]

Aight ima settle this for u all right now in a well easy sort of way....I am a soldier in the united states army us being over there is bullshit becuase right now we r only there to keep the peace but hey if them fuckin towelheads wanna kill each other we should jsut let em n it not be our problem and when the war first started it was all for the oil trust me cuz i spent 12 months of my life guarding a damn oil field...and now the only excuse were there ic to help them build back up n keep the peace..bullshit let em kill each other.And by the way our president is a piece of crap the war is all for him had nothing to do with terrorism..that was jsut his excuse to go to war.

Thank you for your service Sir.......

Bush is a piece of crap

We needed to gaurd the oil fields remember the Kuwail well fires?

Saddam was a big peice of crap

Yes let them kill each other...Radical -vs- non radical they need a reformation

IMO we need Iraq... for positioning, for the real battle about to begin.

Iran..............

[andruejaysin]

why dont you worry about your FUCKING goverment being over ran by Muslims.

The same reason I don't worry about radioactive attack squirells. Because I'm not insane. But thanks for asking.

[letsburn06]

yes iran is also about oil but i joined the army to serve my country n tis worth it i just dont agree on this war right now...sorry if i said some stupid shit but i just dont get this war

[psychocat]

Bong imo your madness knows no bounds.
War for peace is BULLSHIT !

[Dutch Pimp]

yes iran is also about oil but i joined the army to serve my country n tis worth it i just dont agree on this war right now...sorry if i said some stupid shit but i just dont get this war

...you got the right idea...troop...but...it's the people "sitting on the fence" that will decide this debate.

[Bong30]

Bong imo your madness knows no bounds.
War for peace is BULLSHIT !

Ill show three instances where war made Peace....

Japan.....

American Civil War.....

Germany......


1. War doesnt make peace, when?

A. Must fight war with one arm Tied behind our Back

B. Use military as police force

C. Left leaning media, weakens the resolve to win

D. all the above

[Psycho4Bud]

Peace has to be created, in order to be maintained. It will never be achieved by passivity and quietism.

~Dorothy Thompson


Let him who desires peace prepare for war.

~Flavius Vegetius Renatus

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

[mrdevious]

I don't agree with this Iraq war at all, but that's for a multitude of sensible reasons regarding this particular conflict. I think it's rediculous when peple say war can never solve anything. The American war with Japan resulted in the liberation of huge portions of China and indonesia. Allied forces should have declared war on Adolf Hitler's forces back in 1936 to stop his insane nationalist-driven onslaught of "inferior races/nations".
On the other hand you have wars like the one in Iraq where we invaded a nation that didn't pose 1/10th the threat as others like Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, certain factions in Pakistan, and perhapse Syria (I'm sure there's more that could be added to the list). Why I disagree with the Iraqi conflict is because:

1. It's diverted massive amounts of military resources from being able to defend against the real threats.

2. The whole "planting the seeds of democracy" around Iran is crap. The Bush administration found itself without an excuse for the Iraq war and so changed its tune that they were trying to surround Iran with democratic institutions which will somehow weaken them:rolleyes: . If that was the real intention, it would have been stated right at the beginning of the war. If anything it would have done Iran a larger disservice to keep the Saddam regime in tact, and the nation stable and held together, since Saddam's government was extremely hostile toward's Iran and would have been one more enemy at their doorstep to have to watch out for. Now we have a nation with a government that can't control its own people or those who come in, a nation that's destabalised and too busy dealing with its own conflict to possibly pose a threat to Iran. Even though being democratic now is a threat in and of itself. :rolleyes:

3. The invasion of Iraq has only made the world more vulnerable to terrorism. When the United States invaded Afghanistan it was in direct response to an attack on their soil, and the Taliban itself has been more than enough to have to deal with. With the invasion of Iraq, of which was based on weapons of mass destruction and supposed links to Alqaeda, they've done a perfect job of helping muslim extremists confirm their propoganda to Iraqi youth that America is indeed launching a crusade on Islam and seeking to dismantle it. The CIA's own estimates showed 1 year after the Iraq invasion that Alqaeda recruitment rates had jumped by 18,000 new fighters, and that's just what they know of. This war based on its weak and constantly changing justification has pissed off the whole middle east and lead thousands of young men to take up arms where they wouldn't have before.

4. Iraq is essentially another Vietnam, and I don't know how America is supposed to get out of it. They can fight and fight for years to come, but it's going to be a (near) endless war of contrition. So long as there are pissed off young muslim men, either because of unjustifiable occupation or friends and family killed by American forces or just religious fanaticism, they'll just keep pouring into Iraq fighting US forces, slaughtering civilians, and destroying infrastructure. I can't stress it enough that Bush policy has lead to the creation or more terrorists than the destruction of such.

5. America has already invested over $300 billion on this needless war and put themselves into debt from which they can never recover (well, at least more so). I find it odd that hundreds of billions of dollars are readily available for pointless wars, but when it comes to a failing education and medical system they just can't seem to scrounge up the money. Oh wait, but if they spent that much time, money, and effort on their own people that would be socialism wouldn't it... we can't have any of that commie crap!

6. And lets not forget the death-toll, along with the even higher injury rate for which we can't even get a solid number. Thus far Bush's needless war has caused the deaths of about 3,000 American troups, and more are sure to come. Looks like he's successfully managed to get as many Americans killed as the September 11th attacks:thumbsup: . Not to mention that tonnes of troups are coming home with (often permanent) injuries, including limb amputations and the twice as prevelant brain injuries they'll have to deal with the rest of their lives. I'm sure their families appreciate that.
Then to make matters worse, you have literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed. The highest estimate right now is 655,000, the lowest being somewhere over 110,000. It's amazing how people can't understand why many muslims would hate America when US forces destroy hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. Alqaeda kills 3,000 Americans and it's horrible unjustified terrorism, but when America slaugters hundreds of thousands of middle-easterm civilians, except this time in the name of spreading their democracy, it's suddenly supposed to be all cool with them. It's just incredible how the public mind can be molded to abhor one act of slaughter, then support an even larger one because the premise has changed.


Overall I'm just sick of extremist views that either believe war can in no way, shape, or form justify a war.... or people who believe that every war for any reason whatsoever is "fighting to protect our freedom", and is justified because the public mind paints a vague picture of the enemy; that being that since terrorists come from the middle east, any war in the middle east is fighting the same terrorists.

[Ignatius]

Bong30 I know London better than you, I'm sure of that. I can tell you that the dumb book you quoted in your link is as far removed from the truth as you can possibly imagine. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself. It's a free country and you are allowed to do that.

As to your fixed term argument..that's a load of bullshit too. Once Bush is gone you have another to take his place. It's not necessarily Bush I hate, just the whole edifice of your corrupt govt. There's no reason for the war in Iraq, nor for starting another one with Iran. Let these folks be, and make sure they understand that they do the same with us in return. We don't need to be in their country to do that. We hold all the cards, let's use them a little more wisely. I'm as against radical Islam as you are, and I'm not a liberal either.

You carry on beating your chest though Tarzan, it keeps me laughing anyway.

[MegaOctane12]

Bong30 I know London better than you, I'm sure of that. I can tell you that the dumb book you quoted in your link is as far removed from the truth as you can possibly imagine. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself. It's a free country and you are allowed to do that.

As to your fixed term argument..that's a load of bullshit too. Once Bush is gone you have another to take his place. It's not necessarily Bush I hate, just the whole edifice of your corrupt govt. There's no reason for the war in Iraq, nor for starting another one with Iran. Let these folks be, and make sure they understand that they do the same with us in return. We don't need to be in their country to do that. We hold all the cards, let's use them a little more wisely. I'm as against radical Islam as you are, and I'm not a liberal either.

You carry on beating your chest though Tarzan, it keeps me laughing anyway.


Well said man. What people don't realise is, extremists account for about 3% of the muslim population, and out of that 3% a handful actually follow it through.

[MegaOctane12]

Population control sounds like a good reason for war but the war the US is involved in is so GWB can keep his oil money, it is all about oil and broadcasting to the world that the US has the stupidest mother fuckers on earth running it.
I could do better but I am not allowed near the White House.
Oil is the root of the promblem and has been since they found the reserves under the ground over there. I have an easy solution for this problem and it is called Nuclear Bombs. I would vaporize the whole middle East and kill every single resident. Then and only then would it be safe to go in and take the oil.
If they let them live, they will come here and cause more hassle. Kill them all, they serve no purpose anyways and contribute nothing of any use to humanity.

Death and destruction to the Middle East {except for Morocco and small parts of Afganistan because of the quality of THC products produced there}


They already do this, they might target a house of a suspect who's believed to have stayed or lived their once, opperative word being once. They missile that house, and kill everyone in it, usually a family, kids, probaly baby's.


Population control isn't entirely a bad idea, but if it were up to me, I would bring it to the modern World, because there's alot of shit that needs to be cleaned up, by shit I mean people, I think it would be much more deserved starting at home and working up.

[psychocat]

Extremists come in all guises as some of the posts on here more than stand as evidence that some Christians are as insane as their Muslim counterparts.
The big difference is that the Islamic extremists brings it to you personaly while the Christian ones rely on their "boys".

[Bong30]

Well said man. What people don't realise is, extremists account for about 3% of the muslim population, and out of that 3% a handful actually follow it through.

Nope..... wahhabist make up at a minimum 10% of muslims....

What is 10% of 1,000,000,000 Billion

100,000,000

That is 100 million people want you dead or to convert?

there is only 300 million people in the whole united states.... can you see the problem?

100 million -vs- 300 million allready.....

through in some sunni and some shi'a, and some enemy within types, and we have a big problem.

[Bong30]

Extremists come in all guises as some of the posts on here more than stand as evidence that some Christians are as insane as their Muslim counterparts.
The big difference is that the Islamic extremists brings it to you personaly while the Christian ones rely on their "boys".

NIce poke.... very subtle........... NOT.


Remember.......
In islam you can become a martyr by killing infidels......

Jesus died so the rest of us could live......

in One murder is a sin

in one is OK, if you kill the right one.....(infidels)


PC, it is ok for you to hate Bush, Jesus and all. your true colors will show soon.

[Bong30]

Bong30 I know London better than you, I'm sure of that. I can tell you that the dumb book you quoted in your link is as far removed from the truth as you can possibly imagine. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself. It's a free country and you are allowed to do that.

As to your fixed term argument..that's a load of bullshit too. Once Bush is gone you have another to take his place. It's not necessarily Bush I hate, just the whole edifice of your corrupt govt. There's no reason for the war in Iraq, nor for starting another one with Iran. Let these folks be, and make sure they understand that they do the same with us in return. ^^^^^^This is how dumb you are...they wont leave us alone^^^^

We don't need to be in their country to do that. We hold all the cards, let's use them a little more wisely. I'm as against radical Islam as you are, and I'm not a liberal either.

You carry on beating your chest though Tarzan, it keeps me laughing anyway.
I would rather be Tarzan, then Jane


VVVVVVVVVVVVVVGet ready Londonistan your NextVVVVVVVV

ONLY 277 CARS TORCHED
FRANCE'S PERMANENT CRISIS
By FRED SIEGEL
Sarkozy: Rudy-style savior for France?October 31, 2006 -- FRANCE today is a lot like New York City was before Rudy Giuliani: Its government is so large it crushes the economy - yet also too weak to stem widespread criminality. As with pre-Rudy New York, the fear that France's best days are behind it prevails.

For the moment, the French are breathing a sigh of relief, as the anniversary of last year's three weeks of rioting by Muslim youth passed with much fanfare but no widespread disturbances.

Yet - with the nation approaching both a presidential election and the Fifth Republic's 50th anniversary - the French elites worry that their famously unstable country is headed for breakdown and a Sixth Republic.

The 2005 Ramadan Riots, which saw some 10,000 cars torched and 300 buildings firebombed, have been followed by a yearlong, lower-grade rolling riot - what some in the French police are calling a "permanent intifada." Nationwide, this works out to 15 attacks a day on police and firefighters, and 100 cars set ablaze nightly. And for the first time, the police are being subject to well-planned ambushes.

So when the Oct. 27 anniversary of last year's violence was met with "only" 277 torched cars, the Interior Ministry declared it "relatively calm."

But the trends are not good. While last year's violence was disorganized (rioters armed only with bricks, crowbars and Molotov cocktails) and largely confined to heavily immigrant Muslim and African neighborhoods, this past week saw a half-dozen well-organized attacks on public buses in non-immigrant neighborhoods by "youths" armed with guns. In some cases, they ordered passengers out at gunpoint, then firebombed the bus. In others, they've tossed Molotov cocktails into buses with the passengers still aboard.

The French press ardently insists there's no link between Islam and the unrest in the streets. But there is a connection, albeit complex, between the rioters and Islam's Jihadi elements.

Some of the rioters of 2005 and car bombers of recent clashes have shouted Allah Akbar (God is Great). But other rioters are drawn to Islam less as a faith and more as an off-the-shelf oppositional ideology that has replaced Marxism as the intellectual drug of the alienated.

In his Policy Review article "The French Path To Jihad," based on interviews with French prisoners, author John Rosenthal notes that Islam's attraction is often less its theological content than an aura of rebellion. "Islam disturbs people," notes Jacques, a non-Muslim "and for me that's a good sign."

[MegaOctane12]

Nope..... wahhabist make up at a minimum 10% of muslims....

What is 10% of 1,000,000,000 Billion

100,000,000

That is 100 million people want you dead or to convert?

there is only 300 million people in the whole united states.... can you see the problem?

100 million -vs- 300 million allready.....

through in some sunni and some shi'a, and some enemy within types, and we have a big problem.


I don't know where you get your facts, but that's entirely incorrect, if that were the case you would see alot more terrorists, not that more are not been created from the US killing their familys in their homeland, sure that helps.

How many terrorist acts have taken place in the US since this all started, One. Think about that, because it gives nobody an excuse to plagerise a load of shit. This is about retaliation and oil, religion dosen't even come into it, so don't spark numbers off the top of your head, who are you fooling.

And to what you said about London becoming the next Muslim hot spot, fucking leave your country before stating your opinion, I doubt you've even left the states in your life. Don't be nieve enough to believe what you read, Muslims who preach shit are being deported all the time.

[ksizzle]

bong30.... with all due respect (and unlike you i do accord you some). the riots in france had nothing to do with radical islam. they were a result of an act of police brutality to an already pissed off black youth. the fact that a lot of these youths happened to be muslim was because the kids who were beaten up were muslims. these kids were beaten up because they were muslim and the war on terror had excited everybody into doing things perhaps not inherently in their nature. I was in france at the time of the riots, i watched them burn cars,i knew some of the kids who did it. my school, although nominally a catholic boarding school was about 30% muslim, and i know from living with these kids day to day and talking to them that this had nothing to do with religion or extremism but a revolt against perceived injustice. Im not justifying either side's actions, merely explaining them.

[Ozarks]

It's not necessarily Bush I hate, just the whole edifice of your corrupt govt.






Extremists come in all guises as some of the posts on here more than stand as evidence


That about covers it.