Volcano Eruption Consumption.

[t3chyo]

I never really realized this about the volcano until I actually read into it. This thing is a magic bud to highly potent hash converter! Can anyone verify that this comparison is realistic. You heard about the new 98-99% cannabudder that was discovered? That means that you are taking in 98-99% THC correct? Now the volcano claims to produce 95% THC, the rest 5% being some other chemicle(read a test on it). Does this mean,(if you used the same strains for making the budder and for the volcano), that you will get almost just as fucked up as smoking the budder as you would with the volcano? It seems to me theres only a 3-4% difference, does this sound right? Or is this new cannabudder something special that blew by me? Thanks.

[orangeman]

Wtf, this thread confuses the hell out of me. Please explain to me what you're talking about :p.

[slipknotpsycho]

i think you have the wrong idea (maybe i'm not completely positive so don't quote me) but the budder (it was through a MOM site) was like 90%+ thc compared to all of the contents of the budder, and the volcano just gets you 95% of the thc that is contained within the bud... i mean you obviously can't put in a 20% high grade marijuana into the volcano and expect the bud to magically turn into 95% thc bud....

[flamingskullballs]

butter, not budder

sorry

[slipknotpsycho]

butter, not budder

sorry

no there is a product out there offically called budder, i can't remember the site for the life of me but it was a MOM and it looked nothing like bud, think of it like salvia extracts, since i know there is no 90% thc bud out there anywhere... it was 'made' by man, not just some bud growing naturally.. it was awhile ago, probably over a year ago when he was around, before cann.com banned MOM talk (which is for the best, because some dickheads decided to take advantage of the oppurtunity and just took peoples money, and were talking hundreds, even thousands) so cann.com just decided to ban it all, not to mention that weed is illegal in the states, and alot of the community is american and they really wanted to disassociate (they being cann.com) from as much illegal as possible, also why the psychotropics forms is gone these days.... there was a whole lot of contreversy over that alone..

[t3chyo]

"The new study used a gas chromatograph mass spectrometer (GCMS) to examine the gas components of the vapor. .The analysis showed that the Volcano® vapor was remarkably clean, consisting 95% of THC with traces of cannabinol (CBN), another cannabinoid. The remaining 5% consisted of small amounts of three other components: one suspected cannabinoid relative, one suspected PAH, and caryophyllene, a fragrant oil in cannabis and other plants. In contrast over 111 different components appeared in the gas of the combusted smoke, including a half dozen known PAHs. Non-cannabinoids accounted for as much as 88% of the total gas content of the smoke"

Now, like I said above, if you compared the same strains(for volcano and budder), all you are going for is that one chemicle, THC. This study shows the volcano pushing out 95% of the thc from a strain(lets say) containing 20% THC. This isnt magically turning 20% THC into more physical THC, but instead allowing to only consume 95% THC and the rest a few other combustion chemicles found in the study. I believe all that budder is doing is allowing you to consume 90+% THC with less combustion chemicles. Does this sound right to anyone or am I missing something still? Thanks.

[slipknotpsycho]

ok now i see what you're saying i think... if i'm right you're talking about using the volcano to vaporize budder, giving you the purest smoke possible, if so you are completely right....

[flamingskullballs]

yeah, why is there no psychotrips forum?

[t3chyo]

ok now i see what you're saying i think... if i'm right you're talking about using the volcano to vaporize budder, giving you the purest smoke possible, if so you are completely right....

not saying that...but what I'm mainly trying show is smoking butter and using a volcano with the same strain should have very close effects in terms of the quality of the high, in the end your just trying to burn THC and only THC to get that high you go for.

[slipknotpsycho]

exactly what i said... cann.com is trying to become more mainstream and more parent and law friendly, i guess in an attempt to show other people out there potheads aren't really what most think we are... which again is for the best, any step in the dirrection of getting it legalized, even if just for the people who need it nation wide, is a step in the right dirrection.... i actually respect the move it's taking, which is to show the nation (mainly america i suspect) that marijuana isn't as bad as most 'drugs' such as crack, meth and so on.... to do that they needed to elimnate talk of other drugs, so that anyone that comes here who isn't into drugs that all stoners aren't just people who use and abuse all drugs out there... that includes anything from pharmcutiecls (ok i spelled it the best i could lol) to hard drugs like meth and crack which have the image painted on them that they produce wastes of society.

personally i think any and all mind altering substances can be used responsibly, but due to those out there (i remember it being less than 10,000) who abuse them horribly and die, it has a nasty image, the only thing weed has going for it right now, is that it's never really caused an overdose...

this is becoming a very contreversial time because people are actually waking up, and not just listening to the government anymore, and making decisions for themselves (there were always those 'rebels' but now people who don't smoke or enjoy it, are opening their eyes as well) hell it maybe 10-50 or more years before it's actually legalized, as beer and tobacco is, but like i said every move towards a better future, is a step in the right dirrection.

in short the psychotropics forum is gone now because it promoted (you have to realize alot of them don't smoke pot and alot of them still tie potheads to crackheads) the fact that all people who use illegal substances have a very high tendancy to use other, more harmful drugs, which is not true in the least.... i've known lots of people who use weed exclusively, but would never touch anything including (here comes that word i can't spell) hard drugs and pharmacuticles not saying i'm one of them, i've used alot of drugs... but the point still stands that there are too many people judging us at every chance they get, and those are the people who really are waking up, seeing what potheads really do....

we have a lot of bad images, we don't need more then we have, we're already known as lazy scum who never make anything of themselves, that's bad enough by itsself....

[t3chyo]

I should also point out that this isnt a debate whether which one has more phsycial THC in it, the budder, or the same strain from the budder used in a volcano. But rather the THC % to combustion chemicle %, i believe thats all that matters. Isnt hash, bubblehash, and cannabudders purpose is to extract the purist THC from the beginning strain? The volcano is really similiar to this except it does it through a different process, vaporization, but it does a hell of a job. I mean the budder will fuck you up, but what I'm saying is smoking enough of the same strain the budder would be made out of from a volcano enough, you will get the same high.

[slipknotpsycho]

ok now i understand fully what you're sayinge, and yes i would imagine you're rright stilll....

[t3chyo]

alright cool, I'd still like to hear some more opinions from others, but I was hoping this was correct because I might be getting one very soon here...

[iwantFUEGO]

im very confused.

i will say this:

Smoking- incinerates bud causing it to combust. In the process you are freeing about 10-20% of the THC in the bud, the rest gets destroyed because of the heat. You are also burning the biomaterial, which is the stuff that makes up the plant itself. This produces carbon based biproducts which you dont want in your lungs.

Vaporizing- uses a heat coil to raise the temp to the perfect amount to release the THC from the plant WITHOUT burning the biomaterial and without destroying much THC giving you around 80-90% of the available THC in a nice clean bag of air.