View Full Version : to hold it in or not...thats the question
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 02:39 AM
So. Recently I went with my friend to his brother's house...and all of his brothers and their girlfriends were there. We had brought a dimebag of orange kush with us and rolled a blunt. We lit it up and we all started smoking...I took a huge hit...held in for 2 seconds...then blew out...then took another and did the same. I was met with blank stares. Everyone started asking me "Why don't you hold it in?" I said that it creates tar in your lungs...wich is bad. They are REALLY BIG on holding in hits for like..10-30 seconds. So my question is...what do YOU guys do? Take a huge hit and hold it in...or take many huge hits?
Frivolous248
10-24-2006, 02:41 AM
This topic is very controversial...
I hold it in a lil...10secs at the most. Usually more like 5seconds at the most though, but sometimes I get carried away, especially when stoned and don't realize I'm holding it so long.
Benny Beanstalk
10-24-2006, 02:44 AM
ahaha, good story, i remember getting so baked, i tried to hold in my next puff for as long as i could... long story short i passes out for about a minute. good chron that night
LuckyNiner
10-24-2006, 02:46 AM
Pretty sure 95% of the THC in the smoke you inhale is absorbed instantly, so holding it in theoretically doesn't do much but allow the smoke to deposit tar in your lungs and possibly make you dizzy from oxygen deprivation..which isn't exactly optimal. I like to hold it in just a second or two, to feel the smoke and the rush.
Monoxide
10-24-2006, 02:46 AM
i take small hits (unless im smoking one of mybongs) and hold the small hits in.
pu ekot
10-24-2006, 02:47 AM
I used to hold it in for like 10-30 seconds, everyone I knew always did that, then I came here and now I hold it in for like 4 or less.
MacWQ33
10-24-2006, 03:05 AM
I used to hold it in for like 10-30 seconds, everyone I knew always did that, then I came here and now I hold it in for like 4 or less.
Same for me. But I must say, 90% of the people I know who smoke hold their hits in for a long time.
BobBong
10-24-2006, 03:13 AM
3-5 full seconds (this is going 1 onethousand,2 onethousand..etc)
Doesn't need to be any longer than that.. nor should it be
halosin8r
10-24-2006, 03:15 AM
yeah, I remember reading somewhere about 4 seconds. Supposidly most of the THC is absorbed around 4 full seconds. lemme google.
halosin8r
10-24-2006, 03:21 AM
didnt find anything yet :( might be wrong.
BobBong
10-24-2006, 03:23 AM
didnt find anything yet :( might be wrong.
you're not.. it' 3-5 seconds.. 7 tops. after that you're just holding in the tar and carcinogens
slipknotpsycho
10-24-2006, 03:24 AM
i just hit it, wait a second or two, and exhale... i don't know where the 17 second rule came from, but i get just as high from 2 or 17 seconds.
NightProwler
10-24-2006, 03:31 AM
well i really have found from my own expirments that holding 3 big hits in for 15 seconds each is alotttttt more powerfuill than 3 big hits only held in for 5 seconds each
someuser
10-24-2006, 03:46 AM
well i really have found from my own expirments that holding 3 big hits in for 15 seconds each is alotttttt more powerfuill than 3 big hits only held in for 5 seconds each
Yeah, I like to know where some of these guys are getting these 'scientific' theories that 3 - 7 secs is the optimal time. I mean, it is like people just make these claims like it is written in stone but I would like to see some citations here.
I hold my hits in for 10 - 20 secs... I get a shit load higher this way then when I just held it in for 2 - 5 secs (like I read on here).
BobBong
10-24-2006, 03:55 AM
"Taking deep tokes and holding in smoke for a long time is very harmful to the lungs. THC is actually absorbed quickly by the lungs, and the longer you hold it in the more tar will be absorbed. Although this behaviour - to get the biggest bang for your buck - is the product of the illegal and overpriced status of cannabis, it is the main reason that smoking one joint of cannabis is thought to be more harmful than one tobacco cigarette."
http://www.norml.org.nz/page26.html
5-7 isn't what i would call a "long time" .. 10 seconds? 15? yea.. that's getting a bit excessive.
Dankmike
10-24-2006, 03:56 AM
If its a bong i take a monster hit and hold it in untill i cough and then the smoke escapes that way.
but a joint i take a hit do a ghost inhale for like 5 secs then exhale.
someuser
10-24-2006, 04:05 AM
"Taking deep tokes and holding in smoke for a long time is very harmful to the lungs. THC is actually absorbed quickly by the lungs, and the longer you hold it in the more tar will be absorbed. Although this behaviour - to get the biggest bang for your buck - is the product of the illegal and overpriced status of cannabis, it is the main reason that smoking one joint of cannabis is thought to be more harmful than one tobacco cigarette."
http://www.norml.org.nz/page26.html
5-7 isn't what i would call a "long time" .. 10 seconds? 15? yea.. that's getting a bit excessive.
Bobbong,
I appreciate the link bro. I want those interested to know that I'm not looking to prove or disprove 'any' theory one way or another... I just want the 'truth' :)
While the link you gave me was very interesting, I would like to see some citations of studies (maybe pubmed?) where scientific tests were done and measurements given.
I'm sure holding anything in your lungs for a long time is bad for you but do you really get the majority of your high from the first 3 - 7 secs? I would just like to see specifically the study, citation, or even an abstract of the study that shows that HUMAN lungs absorb 95% or more of THC within 3 - 7 secs.
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 04:19 AM
To me, anything above 5 seconds is a waste of time. My friend tried to b/s me. This is an exact quote. I am not making this up, he said this to me on the way back. "You should hold it in. If you don't, you barely get anything. One time I was smoking with my brothers..and I took one hit and held it in for like 2 minutes...and I was higher than everyone else...offa one hit."
That is exactly what he said. I don't know who he's trying to kid. But that was a house of lies, held together with b/s
BobBong
10-24-2006, 04:21 AM
well i'm not going to go hunt around for scientific studies on it although i'm sure they're out there.
but.. like memory says.. and norml warns.. holding the smoke in for to long can cause more damage to your lungs than really needed.
Financial Panther
10-24-2006, 04:38 AM
Well when i first started I just tried holding the stuff in as long as I could. L ike 30 seconds or more. So long that when i exhaled no smoke would come out.
Then later when i burped or something it would all come out.
I think they call is ghosting a hit.
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 04:43 AM
Good Job FP. Ur first post...and in a thread I started. I feel honoured. Welcome to the forums man.
Financial Panther
10-24-2006, 04:57 AM
thanks a lot. I'm actually really lucky to find this site. Its what ive been really looking for. And its not dead like a lot of boards. A lot of people on here : ))))
and i just started smoking like friday the 13th. So yeah, i've been high only 3 times so far. And lovinggg it : )
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 05:05 AM
Well keep it up man. What did you smoke with?
Financial Panther
10-24-2006, 05:07 AM
the first time i smoked a pipe, 3-4 bowls but that was it. The second time i just shared a single joint with my bro. and the last time(last friday) i smoked two blunts and a joint.
but yeah its weird since i was a self proclaimed straight edge about a year ago. : ) oh well
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 05:16 AM
Lol. I know what u mean. I didn't start smoking til this year...the day before ozzfest.
Financial Panther
10-24-2006, 05:24 AM
yeah, thank god i finally decided to pick it up.
but im still trying to learn all i can. There are so many things i have no clue about yet. Shit even some of the simple slang i havent even gotten down yet lol
memoryburner
10-24-2006, 05:33 AM
Lol. It's easy to pick up for me. I'm really glad I started. Now I know what I've been missing out on.
S.P.Q.R.
10-24-2006, 06:13 AM
I only hold my hits in for about 2-5 secs. Sometimes longer if I need to ghost it to prevent smell for some odd reason.
burnable
10-24-2006, 11:34 PM
FP, I smoked on and off from ages 12 to 17, quit for 5 years, now I've smoked again for over 2 years, and as a person who's been on both sides of the fence, I can say life is a lot better on the side of the fence where everyone's enjoying a fat blunt. It doesn't really impair your ability to have a successful life (assuming it's the only drug you do), and it allows your mind to free itself when it needs to. So experience some dank and only stop unless you truly want to. ;)
orangeman
10-25-2006, 12:26 AM
Holdin it in for a bit longer than 3 seconds works, maybe 10. But if I hold it in for too long when I'm high my body feels like shit!
Inferius
10-25-2006, 12:40 AM
Bobbong your quote says THC is absorbed almost instantly, they always reference THC, but aren't we all forgetting that theres more to weed that gets us high than THC? It's not the only cannabinoid. Show me a study that say all of the cannabinoids are taken in almost immediately after inhalation, and i'll blow my hits out after 3 seconds. But until then, I always feel higher if I hold for at least 7.
memoryburner
10-25-2006, 07:03 AM
inferius....AWESOME avatar. Gremlins rock balls.
Reefer Rogue
10-25-2006, 09:47 AM
5 seconds. The reason people claim to get higher from holding in hits for large amounts of time is due to oxygen deprivation. Like some1 already said 95% of the thc is absorbed pretty much instantly after inhaling. DOn't let anyone dictate how you smoke, hold your hits or not, it doesn't bother me, all that should matter is that you get high...
orangeman
10-25-2006, 10:51 AM
Bobbong your quote says THC is absorbed almost instantly, they always reference THC, but aren't we all forgetting that theres more to weed that gets us high than THC? It's not the only cannabinoid. Show me a study that say all of the cannabinoids are taken in almost immediately after inhalation, and i'll blow my hits out after 3 seconds. But until then, I always feel higher if I hold for at least 7.
Well I agree, THC, CBD, CBN, THCV, what ever the cannabinoids may be that enters your bloodstream I do believe they are absorbed almost instantly but just because it says that doesn't mean that there isn't more cannabinoids to be absorbed. Thats why I hold it in my lungs for more than 3 seconds and if you ask me it does make a difference.
Actually, THC is the primary phycoactive in cannabis. [Delta -9 - tetrahydrocannabinol.]
The phycoactive compounds including THC are absrobed almost instantly, so you should inhale, and exhale as you would if you were just breathing normally. 3 -5 seconds tops, any longer than that and as Bobbong said i think, you'll be holding in tar.
People think holding it in gets them higher, but it doesnt. 2 simple words for it.
Oxygen Deprevation, and or Placebo.
But each to their own... if people want to hold it in for stuopid amounts of time then start planning your funeral now.
acrca
10-25-2006, 12:53 PM
yeah i hold it in for as long as i possibly can, because i do belive it gets me more high. thats my opinion whether you agree or not. btw my throught is fine
EsotericStoner
10-25-2006, 12:54 PM
Smoking period isn't very good for you.. your better off eating it.. doesn't mess up your lungs and gets you high for a longer period of time.. But then again if your buying your herb from the "street" I wouldn't suggest eating it.. There's no telling what kinds of pesticides and other chemicals it may have in it...
Smokalotxxx
10-25-2006, 12:55 PM
Actually, THC is the primary phycoactive in cannabis. [Delta -9 - tetrahydrocannabinol.]
The phycoactive compounds including THC are absrobed almost instantly, so you should inhale, and exhale as you would if you were just breathing normally. 3 -5 seconds tops, any longer than that and as Bobbong said i think, you'll be holding in tar.
People think holding it in gets them higher, but it doesnt. 2 simple words for it.
Oxygen Deprevation, and or Placebo.
But each to their own... if people want to hold it in for stuopid amounts of time then start planning your funeral now.
Listen to him. Holding the smoke for too long makes your lung absorb all the useless compounds in the smoke. It's not worthy. If you're smoking good weed you'll get stoned holding it or not.
Pezzo
10-26-2006, 12:34 AM
i cant smoke v well and i always cough so to prevent this i take small hits and keep breating in after i have taken the hit, when ive breathed in enough for all the smoke to go into my lungs it usually takes 2-5 seconds to come back out anyway. it works for me but are u supposed to smoke like that?
partyguy420
10-26-2006, 01:31 AM
ahh... to tell you guys the truth... when i was doing meth, and smoking weed while i was coming down... i would just bring the hit down into my lungs, and then exhale realy fast, like i was tought to do with shards... when i do smoke weed now adays, i hold it until im abouts to start coughing...
someuser
10-26-2006, 10:11 AM
The phycoactive compounds including THC are absrobed almost instantly, so you should inhale, and exhale as you would if you were just breathing normally. 3 -5 seconds tops, any longer than that and as Bobbong said i think, you'll be holding in tar.
Again, can anyone who 'preaches' this way of thought provide the STUDY or ABSTRACT that was done to prove this theory with instantly absorbed phycoactive chemicals.
If holding in the smoke longer then 7 secs yields no further result and increases 'damage' then I surely want to know... I just not going to take a stoner's words for it as gospel though ;)
Zoosh
10-26-2006, 10:25 AM
5 seconds is just fine.
IllusionalFate
10-26-2006, 10:32 AM
I just hold the smoke in for about a second and exhale slowly. The slow exhaling causes most of the smoke to stay in the lungs for a couple more seconds, and by the time all the THC is absorbed I've basically completely exhaled my hit.
UKdruglover
10-26-2006, 11:00 AM
Nice, i was with the majority:
"Take many huge hits and only hold in for 3 seconds or less."
Thats about right for me, and apparently about 50% of everyone else. Peace out peeps.
:thumbsup: :D :stoned: :)
Again, can anyone who 'preaches' this way of thought provide the STUDY or ABSTRACT that was done to prove this theory with instantly absorbed phycoactive chemicals.
If holding in the smoke longer then 7 secs yields no further result and increases 'damage' then I surely want to know... I just not going to take a stoner's words for it as gospel though ;)
It's common knowledge, to people that actually understand it. You quite obviously have no idea at all. Sorry, no offence, but its true.
Hold it in, doesnt bother me!
pu ekot
10-27-2006, 03:08 AM
In a completely unscientific study, me and my friends tried this over the course of three nights. We found no difference between ~4 second and ~10 second, but if we held our breath between hits to the point where we were being oxygen deprived, the oxygen deprivation boosted us a little.
Like I said it was biased and unscientific. But I'm convinced.
CheebaMan
10-29-2006, 06:06 PM
i take good hits and hold em all for like 5 seconds, u get high as the sky
SantaClawz
10-29-2006, 07:03 PM
Anyone ever swallowed a hit?
slipknotpsycho
10-29-2006, 07:07 PM
Anyone ever swallowed a hit?
i used to do it by accident all the time...
SantaClawz
10-29-2006, 07:13 PM
Yeah, me too and it would give me real bad heart burn. I think smoking weed is why im addicted to TuMs.
Hardcore Newbie
10-29-2006, 07:25 PM
I usually hold mine for bout 7-10 and then slowly exhale. I think the oxygen deprivation kicks it a little more.
lil josh
10-29-2006, 07:26 PM
hold it in for bout 10-15 seconds it gives u a mich better high as your depriving your brain of oxygen then you get a lil light headed.
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