View Full Version : Simple,Low cost,grow setup...
Growalot
11-03-2004, 02:51 AM
1st step:how much room.can you grow 1,2,3,4,5,plants,the planters in 1st pic,left to right,are good for soil,i use pro mix BX,ferts is a matter of choice,I use Peters 2nd pic,I use the 3rd planter,3.5 liter,i pre moist the pro mix so it will take water.set it in 5gal bucket,you have your planter ready.the bucket is to catch water,i pour 1 gallon jug of water or ferts as needed,more on this later. STEP 2:Lights,well for the money,the great results,4ft flos,40w cool white plus 3300 lumens,for veg,pic 3 ,low heat,now this is all you need to get your veg: plants going. STEP 3 ,.BEANS ? [most important],i did my frist grow with bag beans,or beans from others,before i bought from kk,to learn: STEP 3 :.. GERM:beans,now this is how i do it,lot of ways,but in pic 4,you see box,glad bowl,paper towels,take paper towel,wet till water [ distilled water]runs out of towel, shake it a little,do not mash the water out,lose to much.put lid of glad bowl down,place towel on lid.[ i use 4 sheets of plain white paper towel folded to fit inside bowl.place beans on towel,cover with 4 more folded towels,cover with bowl on top of lid,place inside box,cover set in warm place,,,i have had 90% to 100% of my beans to germ:KK's beans 100% germ: now this will get you started growing........STEP 5...after germ:planting your beans...I put mine in the planter they will grow in,you get better rooting this way,you see 3 planters in 1st pic,i used all 3 so listen,the small one will have to be transplanted,can do if no space,can grow in 2nd one,3rd one great,..place white root tip down in soil about 1x4 to 1x2in do not go below 1x2 in ,water with water only,no ferts,no tap water at this stage,collect rain water,go to creek,lake,branch,spring,if none of these are close by,tap water that has set 48 hours can be used.tap water has to be ph tested,after your babies has come out of soil,you will not have to water for awhile.after plant starts to produce leaves,wait until they start 3rd node,then 1x4 tsp peters 10 50 10 with micro nutes in 1 gallon water,water till runs out bottom of planter,bucket catches water,this keeps salts build up down.this helps to get good root system going,once your plants hit node #5 change to peters 20 20 20 micro nutes,i use 1x4 tsp of ferts every time i water in 1 gal jug....BUT..if your plants start to get to dark green,use plain water time or two will lightin up the leaves to good medium green pic 5,well need to stop for a while back tommorow night,with more.
Growalot
11-04-2004, 03:11 AM
i'm going to show you some pics an explain... pic 1 left to right...is my growrooms,....pic2 3 4 5,shows how i set up air flow,heat,
Growalot
11-04-2004, 03:51 AM
this shows how to run fan,[pic one] the thermastat turns the fan on off for flower room,when off the heater keeps it warm until lights come back on. i use a welding rod with flux tapped off,pushed through the wall,shaped to fit through knob on heater ,adjust heat without opening door.you can see where rod comes through wall in pic 2,,also the 3in pipe lets a lot of air through,,now when lights go off i have a small fan from a small Elec: heater to move just a little air when lights are out in flower.this was a challange to fit to pipe,i used cardboard an duck tape,a timer to turn fan on after lights out.[pic3] showshow i get rid of the air,this vent has round bottom 8in pipe,goes under to ground,in ground all the way to woods,therefore no oder.be more later on how to water when you get this far..
Growalot
11-05-2004, 10:03 AM
here is pics i just took
sc0usa
11-05-2004, 08:40 PM
what strain r they? they look luuuuvly
Asesino
11-06-2004, 12:15 AM
Cool posts Growalot, you've dished out some fine advice for us beginners!
Growalot
11-06-2004, 07:07 AM
K guys an grils ,,,,,this is what i do,as in frist two pics,i place all my plants in 3.5 liter planters,then in 5gal buckets,with 1gal jug for ferts.now growers i'm sure someone may [disagree with me].,,,now that the plants are growing good do this,i mix 1x4 tsp ferts in gal jug,pour all of it in so it will drain,now watch your plants so they don't get to dark green,,,,i do this every time i water,now when you see that they are getting to green take 2 gallons of just water,flush,but never water,or fert,plants until surface is dry,this keeps down green algae,on surface.i use pro mix BX to grow my plants in.also by letting the top dry you have less problems.now i never check ph in my plants,don't have to, i use rain water ,i have a few 30 gal trash cans to collect it in.if dry spell i go to lake, river,creek,haul till i fill my cans.now each plant has its own watering table,all plants are differant when it comes to this.also i have found out that by letting my water run through the soil like this,i have few problems,,it gets rid of salts build up.if you dont let the soil dry out some you WILL have problems.a good way to learn is to take 2 or 3 planters,fill with pro mix bx after pre moisting the soil,not wet....leave one that way ,take an pour QT water in 2nd an in 3rd poor water til runs out planter,check weight of each an compare...this an seeing the top of soil helps to tell if it needs water,once you can tell if needs water good,,,...i have not lost 1 plant to problems,,never really had any with this water tech:in growroom can increase amount of ferts if needed,1x4 tsp to start with is all you need ,1x2 way through flower i seem to have to add a little extra,1x4 tsp then 1x2 that much,,...mostly i mist the lower leaves with 1 full tsp in gallon jug. i only mist buds with water to make them think its raining...well i will answer questions,,Live Free....Growalot...some pics to show you...also i will come back in a while to show how to keep plants open to light,never need to cut any fan leaves,you lose some growth in my opinion,also the plants are Blueberry x Jack Herr an soft skunk.here an up at the others,,,...
DontPassOnGrass
11-07-2004, 02:46 AM
just wondering but can u smell the plants in other parts of ur house? I've only grown outdoors once but hope to have a growroom later on down the road so i was just wondering? If u can, how could u prevent other rooms from smelling?
wbs5150
11-08-2004, 04:20 AM
Growalot where are you at in AL. We should hook up
mikee1422
11-08-2004, 05:05 AM
Very nice, real nice.... try to inject CO2 and I think that you will be pleasantly suprised, other than that you have a good formula going
Growalot
11-08-2004, 06:21 AM
To answer a few ,,,No smell because i pump the air out side with a pipe,all the way to woods,pine tree clump,,,an i don't live in Bama any more,but not that far away,,an just today i put gallon jug in room today,,with 1 cup sugar,5 cups water,1 tsp active yeast,,you can see it come out,,,here are some new pics...wbs 5150 whats e mail...
Asesino
11-09-2004, 06:20 PM
Do you just sit the jug in amongst your plants?
Growalot
11-10-2004, 02:29 AM
Do you just sit the jug in amongst your plants?
NO, i place it next to the fan
Dreama
11-10-2004, 08:08 AM
@Growalot, your plants look absolutely beautiful! And nice advice, hopefully I will use it some day :P
Skateboardingpunk420
11-11-2004, 03:46 AM
why do you use sugar?
taste?
Asesino
11-12-2004, 11:21 PM
I think he uses it with the yeast to create CO2, correct me if I'm wrong?
Growalot
11-13-2004, 07:44 AM
see how i have mine set up,its in a 10x10x7 room,when runs down change it ,,,,[room temp: water,in a few hours, shake it an watch,put pin hole in lid to let out co2,you can see it,just try it,you'll be glad you did,it works, its cheap...
Growalot
11-13-2004, 02:48 PM
I ment yes you are right
Growalot
11-14-2004, 07:51 AM
see the little bus that grew ouy after i made co2
Asesino
11-15-2004, 07:34 PM
Awesome, do you think it's essential to have some sort of slow release CO2 system no matter how small a grow room is?
Growalot
11-15-2004, 10:52 PM
Yes,you will be glad you did.
Asesino
11-15-2004, 11:14 PM
Thanks Growalot, another of my many questions (apologies!) but is there such thing as too much CO2?
Growalot
11-16-2004, 09:12 AM
Yes i'm Pretty sure you can give to much,but not with my method,mine has not put out to much i use 2 jugs.but i have a air flow at all times..but no problems with 1 jug
Skateboardingpunk420
11-16-2004, 11:37 AM
What about using baking soda and vinigar?
Growalot
11-17-2004, 03:21 PM
I dont know about those
Growalot
11-21-2004, 02:45 PM
some pics
Crowman
11-22-2004, 02:59 PM
baking soda and vinegar should work fine I had been thinking about that for a while.
My thinking was to put some vinegar in a 2 litre bottle with a few holes in the cap or around the shoulder of the bottle.Then add some baking soda.The holes should limit amout of CO2 coming into atmosphere so the plant doesnt get too much at once.Using this method you vary supply by either covering holes or making them larger depending on what your plant needs.
Please excuse me if that got a bit confusing.....these ideas always seem simplier in my head
wardrobe grower 78
11-26-2004, 07:15 PM
great thread you got going here growalot i take my hat off to you,you will have helped loads of people ;)
Asesino
11-26-2004, 08:18 PM
I second that, cool guy ;)
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