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idontgivenames
10-18-2006, 07:45 PM
I think he's a pretty good guy. Aside from his views against recreational marijuana, I'd have to say that generally when it comes to issues that require some philosophical thinking outside of the war in iraq, he'd make a pretty good president. Much rather have him than Bush, and certainly some socialist liberal.

eg420ne
10-18-2006, 07:49 PM
LoL---so many jokes so lil time----

Polymirize
10-18-2006, 08:25 PM
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you're kidding around and just being instigatory...

But I still don't see any real humor in it.

Hamlet
10-18-2006, 11:17 PM
Bill 'I'm sending Fox Security to arrest you' O'Reilly? You're putting us on, right? lol

birdgirl73
10-18-2006, 11:34 PM
One of the most wonderful things about the presidents in our relatively short American history, no matter what side of the political spectrum they came from, is that their public personas have largely been that of well-mannered, diplomatic men. It's a job that requires diplomacy and restraint, along with an ability to listen to input from others.

Bill O'Reilly has a notable deficit of those qualities. He's a bad-mannered, know-it-all bully. And while I know that appeals to his TV and radio audiences, who don't really know any better than to be taken in by that sort of boorish behavior, traits like that would be the least desirable qualities possible for a president.

Seriously, you've got to get some smarter, gentler, better-mannered folks to look up to.

Bong30
10-19-2006, 12:57 AM
I think he's a pretty good guy.
Yeah Me too.....
Aside from his views against recreational marijuana, I'd have to say that generally when it comes to issues that require some philosophical thinking outside of the war in iraq, he'd make a pretty good president.
Agree........Disagree, Talking head in the white house? No

Much rather have him than Bush, and certainly some socialist liberal.
HIm than Bush? Ummm No...... Beter than some Socialist Liberal......???
YES BY A LONG SHOT.....



:thumbsup:

Breukelen advocaat
10-19-2006, 01:14 AM
O'Reilly is annoying:

He's
Against the death penalty.
A "chicken hawk" that didn't serve in the military, but is very pro-war.
Anti-marijuana legalization.
Anti-abortion.
A believer in "God", and is damn sure of it's existence.
From a middle-class background in Long Island and pretends to be working-class.

He's sort of like an alternate universe version of Jimmy Carter - but if I had to choose between the two I guess I'd take O'Reilly - but only as a last resort. Carter was more marijuana friendly, but ineffective and destructive in many other areas (basically stupid).

We need Infidels to run for the presidency! I'll be starting my campaign for the 2012 election soon, LOL.

birdgirl73
10-19-2006, 01:18 AM
Booo... You know I love you, Bong, but, well, you know how I feel about bad manners. It's the resort of those without intellect or breeding. Which is why I like it when you don't do the one-line insult retort. Because I know you're capable of more. Anyway, you know my same opinion holds, as far as bad manners are concerned, for Nutball Savage. He plays to folks who can't think deeper than the surface one-liner. Just like O'Reilly.

You all are smarter than that . . . . Or you can be.

birdgirl73
10-19-2006, 01:22 AM
He's sort of like an alternate universe version of Jimmy Carter - but if I had to choose between the two I guess I'd take O'Reilly - but only as a last resort. Carter was more marijuana friendly, but ineffective and destructive in many other areas (basically stupid).

We need Infidels to run for the presidency! I'll be starting my campaign for the 2012 election soon, LOL.
Jimmy Carter was indeed ineffective. Because he was hamstrung by the opposing legislature. And I know that many consider him to have even done destructive things, although no one has ever pointed to one specifically.

But he was not--and is not--a stupid man. Fewer more literate or intelligent people exist, in fact. Read something he's written sometime and you'll see what I mean.

Breukelen advocaat
10-19-2006, 01:43 AM
Here's a few samples of his incompetence. There are more on this website.

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/jimmycarter.htm

"Jimmuh Cahtuh" as he called himself was a joke as a president. There are so many painful memories of this befuddled plains, Georgia politician that his current stupidity seems trivial. He jammed his "Born-again" Christianity down everybody's throat while acting hypocritically by brown-nosing every athiest dictator on Earth. And then he'd act holier than thou to other non-dictatorships such as Taiwan.

His main mission was to appease every dictator he could kiss. He even gave
hundreds of millions of Your Taxpayer dollars to North Korea on the promise that they wouldn't build atomic weapons and missiles to deliver them. How nice. The ink on the paper wasn't even dry before they violated that. Jimmuh also ignored the deliberate starvation of millions of Koreans by the same dictator he'd brown nosed shortly before. Oh yes: he ignored the deliberate starvation in the Soviet Union, Rhodesia, Uganda, Ethiopia and several other world dictatorships, not to mention that the Koreans that he loves, were deliberately starving literally millions of "his friends", the innocent and disarmed common Korean peasant.........

Jimmuh was responsible for the fall of the Shah of Iran to the Ayatoilet Cockamamie and the establishment of that insane Moslem dictatorship. He thought he solved it when he cut off the U.S. from their oil. He left it to become the terrorist capital without so much as a whimper. Alexander Haig was just on Fox News - he said Jimmy Carter did more to aid the cause of radical fundamentalist Islam than any other president, first by not helping the Shah of Iran when Khomeni deposed him; second by doing nothing during the hostage crisis.

"There's nothing kind about Jimmy's legacy or his horrid remarks vs GWB. He singlehandedly nearly sunk this country under the weight of the Mariel Invasion w/ all the worst Castro felons he invited here. Many states, including his own, have yet to dig themselves out of the damage and expense caused by this tidal wave of criminals. After the Mariels burned down their FLA detention center, --they were shipped to US Penitentiary Atlanta. Atlantans begged Jimmy to come see the effects of his callous disregard masquerading as 'kindness'he wouldn't lift a finger he didn't care who he hurt."

He destroyed the US economy leaving it with a 21% inflation rate, the highest in the nation's history, then blamed it on the common citizens of the US. He said the US economy was a victim of, "a national malaise," instead of blaming his own stupid administration's socialist policies.

When Moslem terrorists in Iran ransacked the US embassy and kidnapped the ambassadors and marines he launched a ridiculous little invasion of a couple jets and helicopters that crashed and burned on landing. The US media blamed the Moslems. In fact, the reason the helicopters crashed and burned is that "Jimmuh" had defunded and shrunk the military to the point that the maintenance of the military hardware was unable to be done.

Jimmuh's approach to terrorism and dictatorships: complete appeasement. Jimmuh's approach to socialists: throw money at them. Naturally it didn't come from his pocket. And then he'd just wash his hands when his anti-business democrat controlled economy went bust.

He gave away the Panama Canal that WE PAID FOR, BUILT, AND OPERATED and closed the important strategically located military base there. First he GAVE it to Dictator Trujillo along with tens of millions in BRIBE money. Then Dictator Trujillo made more money by selling both ends to the Communist RED CHINESE. Of course, this happened during the administration of Blow Job Clinton. A sane US administration would have voided such incredibly stupid legislation.

And now this idiot hypocrite can't shut up about what the other presidents and leaders are doing. But he barely utters a peep about the enormous injustices that his own party routinely creates.

Jimmuh, fall into an outhouse hole and stay there.

birdgirl73
10-19-2006, 01:51 AM
I know better than to try and talk with you when you're in one of your anti-whatever moods, Breuk. We'll agree to disagree on Jimmy. We already have.

Good luck getting votes with your campaign in 2012.

Kwali
10-19-2006, 02:02 AM
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you're kidding around and just being instigatory...

But I still don't see any real humor in it.

I agree

Ozarks
10-19-2006, 02:07 AM
Carter is not a "bad" person but he is a prefect example why some people should NEVER be president.

BA,

Reading your article brought back lots of memories,all of them bad, about 99% of that article is true.

Defending his good works is one thing, defending his political judgment or presidency,is sad

I survived 4 years of JC in the White house and it was bad,real bad. :(

graymatter
10-19-2006, 03:16 AM
Same here. Jimmy isn't dumb by any stretch, but he wasn't effective as a leader and he didn't do GI's any favors.

Granting amnesty (no consequence to your actions) to draft dodgers wasn't the right message and neither was his famous "Malaize" speach. It Typified his entire approach to leadership: Tell millions of people what's wrong with them.

He also did away with the GI bill (a spending program that was off the scale favorable in regard to the cost/benefit to our country and economy).

birdgirl73
10-19-2006, 03:35 AM
I do agree that the removal of the GI bill was a bad and destrutive move. I definitely agree that that, plus the holier-than-thou factor, would easily slot him into that category. I just needed specifics. I was a mere child when he was first in office, you see, and rather oblivious.

Breukelen advocaat
10-19-2006, 04:24 AM
I do agree that the removal of the GI bill was a bad and destrutive move. I definitely agree that that, plus the holier-than-thou factor, would easily slot him into that category. I just needed specifics. I was a mere child when he was first in office, you see, and rather oblivious.

BG,

I know that the character of this man is very poor. You don't know me, but I can assure you that I can say this with certainty. I was a young adult in my mid-late 20's at the time that he held office.

Carter may well be a fine writer, and convincing debater, but he is very, very, misguided - and ignorant.

A much better man was Adlai Stevenson, who ran for president 20 years and more before Carter. The circumstances of his time were not in his favor, though, and he lost to Eisenhower twice. I was young, but my father, a powerful but self-controlled non-violent man, threw a couch pillow across the room after Ike won in 1956. The popular version of WWII vets voting for Eisenhower was not true. Many of them, including my dad, were not supportive of this, or any other, general. Richard Nixon referred to Stevenson as an "egghead" during the 1952 campaign- which was a compliment, considering the source.

Ol Schwaggy Bastard
10-19-2006, 05:52 AM
I don't want a blatantly mean president, and if he cuts the phone lines on people with dissenting opinions, I can't imagine President O'reilly at press conferences. Or debates, for that matter.

Spiritual
10-20-2006, 06:41 AM
Bill O'Reilly is a pathetic excuse for a man. I don't say this about very many people at all, seeing as how I'm all about peace and love.

Who exactly are these "socialist liberals" that I'm hearing about? I'd take a socialist liberal over a fascist conservative any day.

andruejaysin
10-22-2006, 07:25 AM
When Moslem terrorists in Iran ransacked the US embassy and kidnapped the ambassadors and marines he launched a ridiculous little invasion of a couple jets and helicopters that crashed and burned on landing. The US media blamed the Moslems. In fact, the reason the helicopters crashed and burned is that "Jimmuh" had defunded and shrunk the military to the point that the maintenance of the military hardware was unable to be done.

[/I]Nonsense. The crashed because they collided. Even with our ridiculous military budget and 30 years of technical advances when two helicopters collide, they still crash. Funny how we aren't told that the shah was a dictator as brutal as saddam hussien, isn't it? Or that the people of iran overthrough him in the fifties, only to have him returned to power by a cia backed coup. Which was ran from the the US embassy, that's why the embassy was attacked in 79. Had an elected US president been overthrown by a pro-iranian dictator funded by the iranians, from their embassy, would you have been among those storming that embassy the next time we managed to get rid of that dictator?

Hamlet
10-22-2006, 12:15 PM
Funny how we aren't told that the shah was a dictator as brutal as saddam hussien, isn't it? Or that the people of iran overthrough him in the fifties, only to have him returned to power by a cia backed coup. Which was ran from the the US embassy, that's why the embassy was attacked in 79.

And people buy into the bullshit story that we're invading Iraq because we want those poor people to have freedom and democracy. We're convinced they hate us only because they're jealous religious fanatics who don't love Jesus.

We can't imagine why someone like Hugo Chavez would get up in front of the U.N. and talk such trash just because we conspired to have him assassinated.

Like the great prophet John Lennon said 'Instant Karma's gonna get you.'

Breukelen advocaat
10-22-2006, 02:09 PM
Nonsense. The crashed because they collided. Even with our ridiculous military budget and 30 years of technical advances when two helicopters collide, they still crash. Funny how we aren't told that the shah was a dictator as brutal as saddam hussien, isn't it? Or that the people of iran overthrough him in the fifties, only to have him returned to power by a cia backed coup. Which was ran from the the US embassy, that's why the embassy was attacked in 79. Had an elected US president been overthrown by a pro-iranian dictator funded by the iranians, from their embassy, would you have been among those storming that embassy the next time we managed to get rid of that dictator?

Personally, I think that Iran and similar countries should be avoided by the U.S. altogether - but that isn't a popular opinion among the people that drive big SUV's and other gas-guzzlers.

Although the Shah was a dictator, he was nowhere near as bad as Ayatollah Khomeini, the religous fundamentalist who took his place in 1978.

In 1979, a student group that called themselves Muslim Students Following the Line of the Imam stormed the U.S. embassy and took 66 hostages for 444 days, which Carter was unable, or unwilling, to resolve. It was the major reason for his loss of the election against Reagan in 1980.

If the people of Iran insist on living in the Dark Ages, then that's their business. We tried, and failed, to bring them into modern times.

Mark Bryan
10-25-2006, 02:34 PM
One of the most wonderful things about the presidents in our relatively short American history, no matter what side of the political spectrum they came from, is that their public personas have largely been that of well-mannered, diplomatic men. It's a job that requires diplomacy and restraint, along with an ability to listen to input from others.

Bill O'Reilly has a notable deficit of those qualities. He's a bad-mannered, know-it-all bully. And while I know that appeals to his TV and radio audiences, who don't really know any better than to be taken in by that sort of boorish behavior, traits like that would be the least desirable qualities possible for a president.

Seriously, you've got to get some smarter, gentler, better-mannered folks to look up to. Usually he's smart,neutral on medical cannabis,and uninformed about hemp,that's how I sum him up! I listen to Newsradio 790 WNIS everyday,and you can go here, www.wnis.com and see the daily lineup on those I listen to,funnyman Tony Macrini is the best one! He did a FINE interview on a L.E.A.P. officer awhile back and is better informed than the rest.