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Fathead
10-17-2006, 09:47 PM
Does smoking weed, oil with tobacco kill sperm count?

birdgirl73
10-17-2006, 11:40 PM
I'm not sure if I understand what you're asking, but if you're asking whether smoking weed lowers sperm count, then yes, in the studies that have been done it does indeed appear to lower sperm count. So does cigarette smoking. Both can have a negative affect on sperm motility, too, which means that the action of the sperm cells is slower than it should be or irregular in some way in comparison to that of non-weed and non-cigarette smokers.

Sperm count and motility are both very sensitive to external environmental factors. Everything from body temperature to alcohol to even a poor diet can affect the quality of sperm.

orangeman
10-17-2006, 11:50 PM
If you stop smoking for like a year or so (or maybe even sooner) do you think the sperm count will go back to normal? I dont plan on having kids but I would want as healthy as a child as I could get. I wouldnt want my child thinking some of their malfunctions were because of their parents habits (such as smoking and drinking) like I do.

birdgirl73
10-18-2006, 12:15 AM
Yeah, it'd go back to normal relatively quickly. Sperm quality and amount respond quickly to environmental changes. You'll father very healthy kids when the time comes, I'm sure. One way you can help guarantee this is by choosing a clean-living potential mother of your kids who'll stay away from potentially harmful substances before and during the pregnancy--and afterwards too, if she's going to breast feed. Might as well be safe since it's a relatively short amount of time in comparison to an entire lifetime.

hemptastic
10-18-2006, 07:27 PM
yes, smoking weed does lower your sperm count.
they advise people who are having pregnancy problems to quit smoking weed for awhile
so that way they can produce more sperm cells.

mrdevious
10-18-2006, 08:25 PM
Obviously it doesn't lower sperm count enough to stop Rastafarians from having children.

Fengzi
10-18-2006, 08:26 PM
I smoked a shitload of weed for 20+ years. Then my wife and I decided it was time to have a baby. She stopped taking the pill, then I used condoms for 6 months (best to get the pill totally out of the system first). Then Bam! First time without a condom and she was pregnant. We know it was that time because I had been travelling on business right after that. So, unless it was the mailman's kid, it happened that one time. Seems that my sperm didn't have much of a problem :D

Anyhow, I had read that recent studies showed the damage to sperm from weed was negligable, if at all. No where's near what the govt would like us to believe. Tight underwear and hot tubs are most likley worse.

birdgirl73
10-18-2006, 11:13 PM
Anyhow, I had read that recent studies showed the damage to sperm from weed was negligable, if at all. No where's near what the govt would like us to believe. Tight underwear and hot tubs are most likley worse.
I figured any potential damage from weed was probably fairly low. It seems like more and more, the long-held "uh-ohs" about weed are being disproven. But if I were a potential daddy, I'd probably not want to take even a negligible risk. You're right on the tight underwear and hot tubs! We'd only been married a year and a half when I decided we should begin trying to get pregnant, which, now that I look back on it, was nuts. I should have waited till I was well into my 30s before either marriage or kids, but no. Anyway, I went off the Pill and gave that three months to get out of my system, and my husband decided for the benefit of his progeny, he'd switch from briefs to boxers. He had an 18-hour stretch away from his residency program that first weekend we were clear to start trying, and that was all it took. I'll never know if it was his underwear change or not. Probably it was the fact that I was just barely 24 and at peak breeding age. Anyway, that's how we got our son.

Fengzi
10-18-2006, 11:18 PM
I figured any potential damage from weed was probably fairly low. It seems like more and more, the long-held "uh-ohs" about weed are being disproven. But if I were a potential daddy, I'd probably not want to take even a negligible risk. You're right on the tight underwear and hot tubs! We'd only been married a year and a half when I decided we should begin trying to get pregnant, which, now that I look back on it, was nuts. I should have waited till I was well into my 30s before either marriage or kids, but no. Anyway, I went off the Pill and gave that three months to get out of my system, and my husband decided for the benefit of his progeny, he'd switch from briefs to boxers. He had an 18-hour stretch away from his residency program that first weekend we were clear to start trying, and that was all it took. I'll never know if it was his underwear change or not. Probably it was the fact that I was just barely 24 and at peak breeding age. Anyway, that's how we got our son.

Ha, I did the boxer thing too. But I was 33 and my wife 31. Just wondering, did you smoke during your pregnancy? To me that sounds far more risky than the Dad smoking beforehand.

birdgirl73
10-18-2006, 11:41 PM
If you mean weed, no, the last time I'd smoked weed was in college when I was about 20, four years before getting pregnant. I didn't smoke any more after that last summer in college and didn't try it again till this past summer with my sister. I do believe I hold the record here for the longest weed break, 24 years. I was never a regular smoker/buyer anyway even during college, but I did enjoy it a lot when I did it socially.

I never smoked cigarettes at all. Got plenty of those second-hand from growing up in a house with a mother who did.

Djinn
10-19-2006, 03:38 AM
DOG, i'm smoked mad weed up till i got my girl knocked up trust me you got plenty to go around so put da jimmy on.

Fathead
10-19-2006, 09:23 PM
wow, lots of replies, anyways no one in my family has ever had problems getting prego, and who really knows what weed does. Kinda sounds like the old butter versus margerine to me. which is better, that changed so many times im still confused. Anyways my understanding is weed only effects the rate at which your swimmers swim, in this case they would be to fast and burn out before they reach the target :) Thanks for all the replies.

dadib
10-23-2006, 08:17 PM
NO WAY! I'm ALLWAYS stoned and i smoke ALOT ALL DAY and i allready have 2 boys and i could have had more if a few girls didn't get an abortion

saviour
10-24-2006, 01:57 PM
smoking does not reduce sperm count

saviour
10-24-2006, 01:58 PM
yeah smoking does constrict the vessels though

Mark Bryan
10-24-2006, 03:31 PM
I figured any potential damage from weed was probably fairly low. It seems like more and more, the long-held "uh-ohs" about weed are being disproven.
I like your honesty and cautious stance on this matter!:thumbsup: Unlike Joy on the offspring forum,who thinks otherwise,and among other things thinks it causes more cancer than tobacco,and completely dismisses the 1974 University of Spain and Medical College of Richmond,Virginia,which proves otherwise,claims that it suppresses the immune system,when I showed her all those hemp treats we came to know and love so much,and to top it all off,SHE SMOKES IT,and is in AMSTERDAM for cryin' out loud,and she has the nerve to claim I'm immature and lack any credibility whatsoever,and haven't provided ANY scientific research whatsoever! She's a complete HYPOCRITE!

Mark Bryan
10-24-2006, 03:34 PM
yeah smoking does constrict the vessels though

Correction,cannabis is a cardiovascular DILATOR. Evidence of course can be the reddenin' of the eyes.

EckyThump
10-24-2006, 07:49 PM
Well ive been smokin 26 yrs now :stoned: & have 4 beltin lads aged between 16 months and 21 yrs..:thumbsup: Not done my sperm count no harm hehe..:D

birdgirl73
10-25-2006, 05:54 AM
Correction,cannabis is a cardiovascular DILATOR. Evidence of course can be the reddenin' of the eyes.
Believe it or not, it's actually both a constrictor and a dilator, Mark. THC and some of the other CBDs are great vaso-dilators after they begin to work their merry way through your neurochemistry. But for some reason, in the first hour or two after people smoke--and this may be from the pulmonary effects and smoking itself instead of an effect from the cannabinoids--there's some vaso-constriction that occurs in a large majority of people. My theory is that sativa strains are responsible for this construction/stimulation effect a lot more than the sedating indicas.

Anyway, this part of the response is adrenergic--as if you've had a shot of adrenalin. Your heart beats faster. You're stimulated and energized. Some people get the shakes or twitches. There's a diuretic effect that's caused by the increased heart rate, which moves blood through your kidneys at a faster rate, causing you to need to go to the bathroom more. This is when paranoia and panic attacks happen--during the adrenergic period. It's because of this adrenergic effect that weed-smoking puts people at a five-fold greater risk of heart attacks within the first two hours of smoking.

At the same time, some dilation action is occurring, too. The bloodshot eyes can happen right away. BP often goes down, especially after the initial adrenergic phase is over. Veins and muscles that at first constrict begin to relax noticeably. You being to chill and feel stoned instead of feeling jumpy and jittery. Again, I think much of these constriction vs relaxation effects have a lot to do with the specific sativa-vs-indica content because a pure indica probably doesn't cause nearly as much adrenergic effect even in the two-hour post-smoking period.

Anyway, this baffling, wonderful and also at times potentially dangerous substance is both a constrictor and a dilator.

Mark Bryan
10-25-2006, 02:38 PM
Believe it or not, it's actually both a constrictor and a dilator, Mark. THC and some of the other CBDs are great vaso-dilators after they begin to work their merry way through your neurochemistry. But for some reason, in the first hour or two after people smoke--and this may be from the pulmonary effects and smoking itself instead of an effect from the cannabinoids--there's some vaso-constriction that occurs in a large majority of people. My theory is that sativa strains are responsible for this construction/stimulation effect a lot more than the sedating indicas.

Anyway, this part of the response is adrenergic--as if you've had a shot of adrenalin. Your heart beats faster. You're stimulated and energized. Some people get the shakes or twitches. There's a diuretic effect that's caused by the increased heart rate, which moves blood through your kidneys at a faster rate, causing you to need to go to the bathroom more. This is when paranoia and panic attacks happen--during the adrenergic period. It's because of this adrenergic effect that weed-smoking puts people at a five-fold greater risk of heart attacks within the first two hours of smoking.

At the same time, some dilation action is occurring, too. The bloodshot eyes can happen right away. BP often goes down, especially after the initial adrenergic phase is over. Veins and muscles that at first constrict begin to relax noticeably. You being to chill and feel stoned instead of feeling jumpy and jittery. Again, I think much of these constriction vs relaxation effects have a lot to do with the specific sativa-vs-indica content because a pure indica probably doesn't cause nearly as much adrenergic effect even in the two-hour post-smoking period.

Anyway, this baffling, wonderful and also at times potentially dangerous substance is both a constrictor and a dilator. Sounds like you've been more thorough than I have. I do cite Jack Herer as a source though.

Fan o KmK
11-08-2006, 04:05 AM
DOG, i'm smoked mad weed up till i got my girl knocked up trust me you got plenty to go around so put da jimmy on.

dude. post of the year. for shizzle.

suhl
11-08-2006, 04:36 AM
both my parents smoked and i managed to get born, fuckup though i may be...