OregonsDank MMJ log!

[OregonsDank]

Well I decided to start a journal to help make sure my first crop comes out good!

This is a legal grow so I can only bud 6 plants at a time.


I used 3 gallon pots, with sunshine mix #4, maxicrop soluble seaweed powder, and Peace of mind organic powered fert with mycorrhiza and humic acid.

In each pot I mixed the bottom lair with 1/4 teaspoon dry seaweed and 1.5 teaspoons of foxfarm. Top lair is 1.5 teaspoons of fox farm and no seaweed.

Used 2 inches of hydro rocks at the bottom of pots for drainage, few ontop of pots so wind and water dont mess up soil,and well they look neat!


Here are some pics of my first days growing, started with clones on 9/30 well rooted clones, not as well as they could have been though :(

pic 1 is superskunk , pic 2 is nl/bb , pic 3 is snowbud (aka Akorn )

[OregonsDank]

15 days later

Does everything look ok? Suggestions, hints, comments? Sorry used my cell phone for pics

The other 3 I dont show here are pretty much represented by the 2 good ones I show, they are a bit smaller but growing fast.

Snowbud - Sucking up alot of water, dense nodes, stinky! Everything looks healthy! 1/4 inch stem @@


Superskunk - Some of the leaves are coming out twisted, healthy but some grow like sideways... 3 big branches and a top for its height is this ok?

Nl/BB - Oh gosh what is wrong with this baby It just will not take off, all the new growth are long thing branches, very weak but healthy looking just not strong. Anything I need to change?

Ph is 6.8 - 7.0 on all my soil in the pots, dry ferts are mixed into the soil.




Ohhh, when branches are formed and they produce a cresent moon shaped,shiny, bubbly growth where the branch is connected what is this for? I assume strength but is it a sign plant is going to be heavy, or that it isnt getting a certain fert? Hard to see them in these pictures, not all branches have them only 30%

All in all , everything growing real strong , and dense just like I was hoping - I have them 25 inches from lights still but could get them 12 or 15 inches closer without heat issues. In the pictures they are out of the " grow " room since my camera gets blinded in there lol...

Pic 1 and 2, Superskunk day 18 , Pic 3 and 4 Nl/BB day 18 Pic 5 and 6, Snowbud Day 18

plants are a little sleepy , lights about to go out - they seem to not be as perky the hour or 2 before lights out! on 18/6 now.

[OregonsDank]

This is my snowbud.

Hard to see branches in these pictures but the trunk on my snowbud is almost 1/4 inch.. while the plant is only 5inches tall..


Snowbud has 9 branches and 3 or 4 baby nodes, is 6 inches tall and 11 inches wide on 10/15

Superskunk has 7 branches, and 2 or 3 baby nodes, is 4.75 inches tall and is 8 inches wide

The runt, Nl/bb has 4 branches forming is 4.75 inches tall and 7.25 inches wide.

[OregonsDank]

Can anyone help me with my NL/BB

out of my 6 plants this is the only really sad... looking one.. but im doing everything the same with it, watching it very close.

Ps, I had a friend with a lady bug infestation in her house so I gathered like 75 of them. Put them in my room - they groomed my plants for 2 days and all have died / dissapeared now lol.. I guess that means they didnt have any food to eat :D yay bug free garden!

[BlueBear]

Yes, with the lady bugs, if they have no food, they will die off. With the NLxBB, I would just keep babying it, I have had a few mutants that turned out to be the best in the bunch. Keep up the good work.
If you don't mind, what is your medical reason for growing?
Adieu

[BlueBear]

What is your humidity? If your still in veg, I would think about doing a little misting with a spray bottle and PH'd water and a foliar aditive , some of the nutes you have may be foliar sprays/addatives.
Adieu

[OregonsDank]

55 - 65% humidity, they are about 12 inches from a 1000 watt MH , temps are 70 lights out , 75 lights on.

I get migraine 6-10 times a year, mmj makes it possible to eat, sleep, and numbs down the pain enough I can somewhat function.

[OregonsDank]

Do I have to worry about burning leaves? with a spray mist.

[OregonsDank]

Is my NL mutated? :X

[BlueBear]

I am sorry for not getting back to you, I had a garden problem last night, had to cut down a hole crop do to catching a late hermy last month that ended up polanating all of my ladies. Oh well, press on.
That is something about your headaches, I have a symtom called cluster headaches, not sure if they developed from an old gun shot woond, but they have been known to drive people to kill their selves because they can get so bad. Luckley I haven't had one for about a year or more, they come and go.
With the misting, if you are worried about burning them, then just try it on one and see how it responds, I do it to all of mine, but I live in a cold climate with low humitity. They seem to love it.
Like I said, don't give up on the mutants, at least that is my two cents.
Adieu

[OregonsDank]

Sorry about the headaches :X If im really careful with my diet, caffine intake, things that taint my blood :P I only get a few a year - but I must say a big joint sure does make the skies seem alot sunnier during these, and boy do I eat lol.

Another question, How many branches should a 5 or 6 inch tall plant have.. I have 6 different strains, none have grown upwards really, but they all have 7 - 10 branches, snowbud has like 12, most have 2 or 3 real strong tops also. My only worry is I topped them to early , well " FIM " cut off all but 3/16 of an inch from the top to force branches.

Mainly do you think its pretty normal for clones to stay around 5 inches tall and start growing sideways? I wanted to veg them to atleast 18 inches.

( my first time growing , ever.. if you cant tell :( )

[BlueBear]

Yeh they are growing a little slow, but I don't think that it's a serious problem, that is a nice amount of nodes for being so short IMO. The main reason IMO that they are not taking off right now is because you dumped them into those 3 gallons so soon and the roots have so much room to grow that allot of the plants energy is being focused in the root system, but in the long run you will have a killer root system. I like mine to get right at that root bound point then put them in a larger pot and they just take off. It is good to limit transplants, but once you get transplanting down, they will have some amazing growth spirts IMO.
Adieu

[OregonsDank]

How far up from the soil would I want my lowest branch? Some are like 1/2 inch from soil.

[OregonsDank]

Well my babies are just over 30 days old now.


I am very very pleased with how large / branchy / green they are, I think my first grows yeild will be amazing :D

The plants had a really bad middle life, I had temps going under 55 and up to 80 due to electrical problems, its all stable now :) I guess they would be much larger but seem on track.


I am getting a better camera soon but here is some pics of the medium sized plants.

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3 gallon pots, sunshine mix #4 with dry ferts mixed in at planting. Bottom lair of pot with some seaweed fert. Very little water first 2 weeks. Now 1 gallon every 3 - 5 days per plant. Foliar feed with superthrive 2 drops per gallon. FIMmed them when they were 2 weeks old , 5 inches tall. This is my first grow but im pretty stoked :)


Any help, comments , ideas , putdowns, ect... are welcome! :P


Pic 1 is snowbud,
Pic 2 is whitewidow
Pic 3 is rudy
pic 4 is nothernlights

[stinkyattic]

OregonsDank, your plants are beautiful.
Rudy looks especially neat... all leaves, like a big head of lettuce!

[OregonsDank]

lol yah idk... the biggest leaf is like 9 inches :X....
Has 5 tops, the others all have 9 - 15.

Do you know if I can trim out some of the big old leaves that hang over the edge of pots? They do get light but they are getting a little beat up when I spin plants.

Does trimming some big leaves stunt the plant?

[stinkyattic]

Beat up leaves are better than missing leaves.
Just leave them on until they die naturally.

[OregonsDank]

oic thanks, well I trimmed out some of the inner bigger 5 leaf. to give some light to the branches shooting up now that I trained my plants a bit more sideways.

I only did this on one plant so ill see if it helped or hurt :)

[OregonsDank]

anyone think the plants look to yellow? picture
one in particular.

[OregonsDank]

Well figured I would update and keep my question in this thread.

As some might know my grow got a bit " stunted " during the last 10 days but now growth has resumed at its normal rate. I had just been way to light on nutrients , mainly nitrogen since I was depending on the all purpose fox farm peacemaker dry fert I had mixed in to start with.

Here are some pictures of plants a few days back, new ones coming soon!

Since new growth seems normal, but it has of preflower hairs, I am going to go on ahead and bud now. I think I am going to start the dark period for budding today!!! Wish me luck!

2nd pic is my white widow, the most stunted / slow growing but very sturdy..

3rd is my bigbud

[BuddyLove]

looking good mate good luck :thumbsup:

[OregonsDank]

Thanks! I need all the luck I can get :"P

3 of them were dry enough to water today so I gave them a good feeding, praying they arnt " locked up " I dont really know the signs of this.. imo they are just stunted a bit - not locked up. but I can only pray!~

[OregonsDank]

Well growth is going just fine on 5 of the 6 now :) For some reason they started getting very very stinky today! They arnt budding but I see 4 or 5 white hair things coming out of most of the new growth!

Im wondering if since I thru in my 2nd 1000 watt light, this one is HPS - this is making them preflower more?


Also , im going to bud these within a week, any ideas or suggestions on these types of plants / pots to put them into budding safely and softly?

PS; Was smoking a joint with my plants earlier so decided to count the tops, I have 75 tops, 60 - 65 of them seem really strong / healthy and ready to bud.

[OregonsDank]

Well since for the last 3 days, my room has had a max of 76 and a min of 73, during light period, I wanted to let you guys know how I built my room, cheaply and efficient.

First thing first , I had a 6x6 closet, with 7 foot ceilings.

Before anything I used bleach water , and sprayed everything down with a light mist and wiped it down.


First I built my fresh air in, I made a 8 foot long plywood box that goes to the
far back corner of my room, This sits on the floor, looks like a bench from the outside, but inside is a 16x12 inch fresh air intake, I use a really cheap filter now before the air comes in the room, and a nicer one where the air comes from outside and enters this box. I found this a very cheap , efficient way to move in TONS of fresh air. And lets in / out NO light.

Secondly I just hung up the panda plastic with staples / white duct tape to seal up seams. This panda crap is really really easy to clean, and cheap!

Thirdly I installed my attic fan outside of my room , hooked up to blow out into my garage. On this fan I use a " router " speed control box, found at most grow shops made to adjust the speed of fans. This is my only " heat " control for the cool months. More air out = cooler tempetures and higher humidity, slower the fan is going is the opposite :P

Besides that I have my light hanging in the middle of my room with 1 side having open ports. The other side has my 465 cfm fan sucking air thru the vented hood. This fan exhausts 1/2 the air back in my room to keep it warm and to circulate the air, it ends up being pushed towards my cool air intake and clashing into a nice 74 degree heat :) The heat coming out of my vented hood / squirrel fan is around 80 degrees. The other 1/2 of the heat from hood is being blown out really near my main exhaust.


I use 1 main fan blowing over my plants, its 12 inches and on low. I use 1 7 inch fan in the corner blowing down towards my plants, and 1 7 inch fan under my plants blowing across the stalks / pots to keep things dry.

Sorry im like really stoned and tired - tryin to kill time till my offspring is done in school! But if you have any questions feel free to ask!! here are some pics




My supplies.


20 feet of panda plastic, 10 feet tall roll. $20.00

1 piece of plywood, few 2x4 and some screws $20.00
1 thermostat measures inside / outside temps / min and max 20$
1 attic exhaust fan, ( local hardware store ) $40.00
1 speed adjuster ( router speed controler or somthing ) $30

1 465 cfm squirrel cage fan , 4inch ducting $100
( I dont like this fan... very weak for 100$ )

I would rather find some way to rig my vented hood to my attic fan exhaust... the attic fans pull from like 1400 - 2500 cfm lol..... but I keep mine on really low. So much POWER for your dollar and really not that loud at all, no vibration like the crappy cage fans!


Pics,

Air in , without filter on it, air rushes in that rectangle hole. from 8 - 12 feet down the wall. I could build this box all around my room and cut out air intakes anywere I wanted! :)

Air out, my big ass , but pretty dam quite exhaust, will suck the door off the room :P

The open end of my vented hood , sucking warmer upper air thru hood cooling it and letting 1/2 outside and 1/2 back into lower portion of my room.

[OregonsDank]

doh here are some pics

[TheGreenFog]

LOOKS EXCELLENT. :D

I was going to ask how you liked the 465cfm for that space. I didn't think it would be strong enough for that space...then I went back up and re-read...I was right. :D FAN POWER is KEY. Hard to find a strong, inexpensive fan. It's like lights, though...you get what you pay for and quality equipment reduces worry and gives better results. Keep it up!

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

[OregonsDank]

yah to be honest a 465 cfm is pretty worthless in this area besides to cool light and help move around air.

I also understand how a 40$ exhaust fan could be risky , but I have my AC ready to install as an emergency backup, would suck if a fan broke while sleeping!!!

Only problem is I will have to keep AC on low and set it at like 85 so it will never kick on the cooling part unless a failure, on low from what I can tell it still will eat up around 2 kilowatts an hour.


What i need is an emergency bell! Temp goes over 90 and it wakes my stoned ass up :P

[TheGreenFog]

They have something similar to that. It is a a hot-start/high temp preventor. Check my thread. 'I' am using one of those. Plug it into your light and timer and set the heat threshold. If the temp goes above that level (because your fan broke), it will automatically turn off your lights to prevent burning your plants, or more importantly your house! They also prevent your light from turning back immediately after an unexpected power failure.

As far as your 465cfm fan is concerned, why don't you cooltube it straight up to the light...closed off from the room. Keep it real cool, then get another fan for the room itself? Anyway, just an idea.

Gotta go! Be cool.

:rasta: RastafarI

TGF

[OregonsDank]

Actually lately its been real chilly outside so I am more dealing with how to keep my room warm yet fresh air being introduced often, just tryin to find that happy medium heh.

[BuddyLove]

well faffed out mate, extract to the max

carnt wait to see your 2000watt cannabis cocktail

[BuddyLove]

im thinking of adding a little heater to my grow room to keep temps above 20c during the day it kept droping to 10-15

[OregonsDank]

Y ah I grow in an old sauna so its really well insulated but the concrete floors are cold all winter long.

I can say one thing though, make sure if you get a heater that its a goooood one! I had a thermostat break on a friends heater, his room got over 105 before he woke up and noticed it was on the fritz.


Since my room is 74 during the lights on, im going for 64-66 with lights out, heater barely pops on , then runs maybe 2 minutes before a 10 minute rest.

[santacruz_organic]

when are you going to flower? im planning on switching mine over by the end of the week or once my plants look healthy again. hopefully you will soon if not allready so we can keep in syncronization through out our grows! your my only growing partner time wise.

[OregonsDank]

/cheers santacruz


I am going to bud in 3 or 4 days, water consumption has just picked up, they seem happy now - I really fucked up not watchin my PH , went allkaline cuz purified water ><.

These babies are going to be huge when im done, hoping my patients has paid off.

Next post is a full picture update from tonight - best photos to date!

[OregonsDank]

hiya all, well here are some good pictures.


Whitewidow ( Slow growing, perhaps stunted, very strong, leaves curl under - My shortest)

2nd picture is my first time " FIMming " , im very very happy with how many branches I got

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/wwplant.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/wwFIM.jpg

Snowbud ( Only one to get brown spots and alot of yellow leaves, havnt had any new growth with this problem )

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/del...3/snowbud-1.jpg


Superskunk ( growing ok kinda.. leaves have funny shape and not as green as what is healthy? )

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/del...3/ssplant-1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/del...ture1113007.jpg

Rudy ( a head of lettuce perhaps? )

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/del...re1113001-1.jpg

NL perhaps NL/BB im not sure. ( Just keeps on growing no problems, ready to bud )

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/nl2.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/nl1.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/nltop-1.jpg

My BB , color looks wrong - otherwise very very bushy and growing ok

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/delacruz3/bbto-1.jpg


Any suggestions , comments or questions would be awesome. I would like to kill this learning curve as fast as possible . Also I would love to bud soon - does it look like im ready? Sunshine mix #4 , dry powder ferts when planted , water and love - perhaps not enough food They are under 2000 watts , HPS/MH 18 inches from tops, room is 73-76 degrees , 38 - 48 humidity.

[santacruz_organic]

lets flower on wednesday oregon, my plants just came out of shock and are growing new tops. in three days lets flip em'! what do you say?

[OregonsDank]

Wednesday it is!

I have one freaking problem I havnt taken any clones off yet.... and even if I did today these " clones" would be over the legal size... within a month, and it takes 2 months to finish off my buds.... DAM laws >=(

Rule is 6 plants , over 12 inches by 12 inches any direction

18 under 12 x 12 any direction... so I cant figure out how to preveg yet :(

[santacruz_organic]

Take one to five clones, you only need one. keep it alive and bush it out for two months and then wen you harvest just clone from the one bush. as of reveging(i think thats what you ment, im not sure though) just switch lights to 24/0 and cut away calax development.

[OregonsDank]

I meant anything I clone or cut now.. cant be over 12 inches high or 12 inches wide until I cut down my 6 big ones. Can you clip a clipping and put it in a plastic baggy in the fridge or somthing @@?

Then I could plant those clippings in a month or so?

[OregonsDank]

hey santacruz!


I need to trim off a few of the lower branches and such when my lights go on, 4:30 pst ... today.


I guess if I do the butchering at lights on, let lights run till noon tmw and then kill the light for 24 hours to start budding phase.

So my first day of lights on budding period will be noon thursday if all goes well.


Pots are very dry atm idk if I should water now or not though, I would like them to wake up to my fox farm ferts.


Are you 100% organic? I havnt used anything besides organic certified yet wondering if that is why my plants are a bit hungry lol. dam hippies so skinny!

[santacruz_organic]

the hungrier your plants are, the faster they are using those nutrients, which mean the more production they are having. you will be stoked on your finished product, it will be smellier, tastier, and stonnyer, (i think thats a word). just water when your plants need it and if they arent getting burned by your feeding rate then you dont have anything to worry about. oh yeah fox farm is organic for the most part but not 100%, i heard alot of good things besides that. whats up with the 24 hours of darkness?

[OregonsDank]

I was under the impression you put your plants into 24 hours of darkness to give the budding hormones a jump start, I have even heard of some doing 48 hours or maybe this is just to re veg?

I am not that worried I guess since I am dam near already budding they are so heavy with pre flowers.

[OregonsDank]

Well its 11/15 45 days after planting exactly. Today we go into bud!
Last night I trimmed out all the extra branches, leaving alone dam near all fan leaves. On 1 plant, the 1 with all the nasty brown leaves, I did trim fan leaves to open her up a bit and see the difference in stunting / growth. Next time I will trim a few days before budding, or a week so I dont stunt and bud same time. But in a pinch here , im going to veg for years at this rate :P

This will end up being 100 - 110 day grow but I hope well worth it.

I will be budding 6 plants under 2000 watts, HP/MH mix. 5 of them in 3 gallon, 1 in a 5 gallon. Wish us luck!!!

[TheGreenFog]

I meant anything I clone or cut now.. cant be over 12 inches high or 12 inches wide until I cut down my 6 big ones. Can you clip a clipping and put it in a plastic baggy in the fridge or somthing @@?

Then I could plant those clippings in a month or so?

Bummer...but hey, You can take cuttings now, plant them in rockwool cubes with a little rooting hormone and/or Superthrive, and root them like normal..but cut off all fan leaves...and just leave a little bit of leaf plus the new growth tip. Even the leaves that you leave on can be trimmed. What I mean is cut off like half of the leave (the tips of the serrated fingers). I think I have pics of that on my thread because I did it...hypothetically, of course.

That will keep the plant thin. Then, keep the light as CLOSE as possible to prevent stretching. Then, when they grow a little, top them. That will get them back down...then, maybe a little creative LST, and you can shape them in a way that you want.

Doing all this, you can keep them under 12 x 12 for a month or two. :D Just keep chopping them up, they will grow back. :thumbsup:

There are also ways of preserving clones like you said, baggies...refridgerators...culture slicing...etc. BlueBear has been looking into that stuff so you could discussit with him. I think there might even be a thread on it. :D

Good luck on the flowering.

Here...you have more reputation points now. :D

Be cool.

:rasta:

TGF

[OregonsDank]

Thanks buddy,

Well I set up a deep water culture clone box thing? lol..
Rubber maid tub, 16 holes, neoprene , dip and grow , anti wilt spray and Hygrozyme! Oh and a little air pump, pumping air thru a sandstone thing..
I am just going to try to do as you said, trim or fim them to keep em really short, Maybe ill do a bonsai hydro project!!!


OHHH and on a plus NOTE.... I will be receiving my actually medical marijuana card later this week it sounds like. If anyone else in NW Oregon has their card and wants to help me celebrate my first big step away from the black market let me know!

Even though I have been legal for 2 months I still depend on the black market for " meds "... Oregon is cool but dam feel sorry for people who cant grow, Goodluck getting the medicine your doctor prescribes.. Oregon NEEDS more caregivers/growers , pack your bags , move on over - and grow for some poor souls!

[OregonsDank]

This was my branch creation from a 1 time fimming. I was very happy with all but 1.



super skunk, big bud, northernlights / bb , snowbud

The next generation, aka clone box.

[OregonsDank]

Here are some other random pictures from tonight.

Day 2 budding


Tops,
Top view, Back left corner is " rudy " has always grown like lettuce... I dont see how it can produce bud the growth is so so strange.. 4 tops but so dense with huge fan leaves, some of the leaves were near 9 inches long, those have turned yellow and more or less fallen off by now.

My BB,
Nl / bb,
SS / Snowbud behind it

[OregonsDank]

Here is another picture that gives you an idea of the real color.

With a 1000 watt hps, and 1000 watt MH they turn blue / red depending on what angle the camera is at lol..


" Shhhh they are sleeping! "

[OregonsDank]

Lots of colas shootin up fast now, breaking thru the canopy,l so im stoked - all the veg I left wont be in the way at all.

My NL is still growing just under 3/4 of an inch to just under an inch a day.. The 5 gallon pot kicking in I think. Planning on getting her 4 feet if she wants it :D

Gonna have to move her to the side a bit and throw my other 600 HPS in a corner. I am running around a 100 watt per square footprint atm so not to worried.