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blazinbuds2135
11-02-2004, 12:41 AM
does n e one know n e thing about this shit my friend said he got some and i wanna kno if i should try it or not

BlastedTOtheSKY
11-02-2004, 03:27 AM
pcp was used in the 1950's as an anestitic, for people in surgery. People who were givin it back then reported, having very wierd dreams, hallucinations, and even sometimes out of body experiences. So they stopped using it. It was not that popular in the 60's drug hippie era, becuase most people who tried it, were to scared to do it again, becuase it is such a powerful drug.

Now i only think they use it for veterinary use, if anything.

If i were you, i would do some research on the dosage,then do a tiny bit at first, just to see wut its like. BE CAREFUL, ive herd this is an EXTREMLEY powerful drug.

OutOfReality
11-02-2004, 03:37 AM
i recommend staying away from PCP.. if you wanna trip just get some shrooms or acid with bud or try out salvia

GanjaSmugler
11-02-2004, 05:08 AM
fuck salvia. smoke some pcp on some dank bud. just put some on top of a bowl pack. you ll be cool. just make sure ur parents wont see u for like 3-5 hours
-gs

cbudmant
11-02-2004, 06:05 AM
if ur gonna get it get the juice dont fuck wit the flakes cause it loses its potency when air gets at it. dont smoke it wit weed cause its a waste of weed cause u dont get high at all from the ganga. u dont trip from it at all ur just really fucked up from it. i use to get dipies wich is a cig diped in the juice(liquid form of pcp) and smoked it. usually u get 3 people each take 2 hits by the time it gets back to u, u should be fucked up if its good other wise u got riped off

slipknotpsycho
11-02-2004, 07:52 AM
i'll tell you somthing about this drug..if you do it...you get shot...you keep coming...you feel no pain and you are superman...until your heart or somthing gives out...just because of that fact i would severly suggest staying away from it. especially if you're young... because you can become more easily addicted when young..since your body is still developing. but if you do this stuff you might do somthing severly dumb thinking that it won't hurt you...such as a friend did once and jumped through a window of a 12 story building.

UserName AlphaNiner
11-02-2004, 06:12 PM
Fucked up drug, to say the least. Don't bother with it. Everything you've ever heard bad about it is true...and in all seriousness, not as bad as it actually is. If you want an anestitic drug...take ketamine (animal tranq). Not nearly as insane as PCP and isn't QUITE as bad for you.

Get P.O.D.
11-02-2004, 08:29 PM
you morons who dip your cigs in "liquid" pcp are basicly dipping your cigs in embalming fluid...fucked up drug, dont mess w/it. its nothing like weed when you inhale it, its not smooth, its very cold and unpleasent.

sampson419
11-02-2004, 09:49 PM
Yeah when you dip you cigs its called SHREM don't fuck around, DON"T DO PCP its fuckin' dumb ALWAYS stick with the Holy Gonja

skyblue
11-03-2004, 01:20 AM
Dont no about pcp, but iv done ketamine a few times and thats fucked up shit. :confused: :confused: Stick to the weed :p

thcbongman
11-03-2004, 01:39 AM
I enjoy every experience when I smoke dips. A lot of these bad experiences with PCP have a lot to do with the user unknownly taking the drug. The after effects are nasty as hell, but the experience was quite fun. However it's your own choice, but one time isn't going to fuck your body up.

slipknotpsycho
11-03-2004, 08:57 AM
what if that one time is the time you find out your body will have a very severe, most likely fatal, brain damaging at minimum effect to you putting an outside chemical into your body? would you say that time effects your body? or the people who think they are invincible and go rob a store or get in a high speed chase and run over some kid? ever think about that stuff?

cbudmant
11-03-2004, 09:32 AM
i always had fun when i did it i never went insane or tried to do something stupid neither did any1 i know. ur to fucked up to want to do anything

Reefer Rogue
11-03-2004, 05:52 PM
quotes from chappele show
"you smoke wet this is pcp nigga!" :D does wayne brady have to choke a bytch... he sure does

sugarmagnolia
11-03-2004, 10:29 PM
this is just a fun random fact: Hitler and his people tested PCP on their soldiers. They became dependant upon it. It's just sort of one of those things u know now that you didn't before.

Oh and its a dissociative (It can put holes in ur brain). If ur really gonna try a new drug don't trust a forum to give u all the info. It's more of a place to talk about drugs, but bias is rampant so erowid is ur best choice.

MRB041
11-03-2004, 11:01 PM
I smoked some bud laced with pcp. Best fuckin high ever. Only time iv ever tripped, even tho it was for a few seconds and i had to be home soon so i didnt take any more hits after that. But god damn, it was so nice. I wish i could get my hands on some again

cbudmant
11-05-2004, 06:14 AM
i liked smokin dust but i wont do it again

thcbongman
11-06-2004, 12:15 AM
what if that one time is the time you find out your body will have a very severe, most likely fatal, brain damaging at minimum effect to you putting an outside chemical into your body? would you say that time effects your body? or the people who think they are invincible and go rob a store or get in a high speed chase and run over some kid? ever think about that stuff?

Because what you said is mostly urban legend. There's only a little stench of truth to it. Check the facts yourself.

www.erowid.org
www.bluenight.nu
www.lycaeum.org

slipknotpsycho
11-06-2004, 12:48 AM
ok everything i have said is true and i know it is, second of all, why would you defend such a terrible drug in the first place? here's my rule of thumb for drugs, if it's not a natural thing, don't do it (that doesn't mean go doing every natural thing either) if it's man made it CAN and MOST LIKELY will have a bad effect, because man made drugs are made from chemicals, most of them atleast

Vantage
11-06-2004, 01:40 AM
I tried that shit....Woke up in a forest with a girl with 2 hickies on her niples and topless. I dont know what the fuck happened and i dont wanna, alls i wanna do is stay as far away as possible.

notanovice
11-06-2004, 11:44 AM
PCP, is a horse tranquilizer, unless you are a horse, i`d leave it alone.
believe me, this pcp laced weed was common when i was young(70`s)
and it made people do some weird shit.
but hey, if you are like most, not all, teens, you are gonna do what you want anyways.
but i`ll say this for ya, at least you got off on the RIGHT foot by having the gutts to ask others about it first
i commend you

thcbongman
11-06-2004, 01:32 PM
ok everything i have said is true and i know it is, second of all, why would you defend such a terrible drug in the first place? here's my rule of thumb for drugs, if it's not a natural thing, don't do it (that doesn't mean go doing every natural thing either) if it's man made it CAN and MOST LIKELY will have a bad effect, because man made drugs are made from chemicals, most of them atleast

That's absolutely the most ignorant statement I ever read.

I'm not trying to defend it. PCP can fuck you up if you don't moderate, unlike you I seen it. It's the fact your absolutely wrong and obvious you never smoked it. I smoke PCP around 10 times in my life.

As you quoted before, I never drove at high speed, acting like fucking superman and running some kid over. It's because IT ISN'T FUCKING REALITY.

You are no different than those that demonize weed without facts. Same ignorant bullshit.

Mello.as.Hello
11-06-2004, 02:14 PM
I think since this is CANNABIS.com, and we're here to talk about CANNABIS, then this long-winded discussion about pcp is pointless. My advice is avoid as many drugs as you can, smoke bud and be happy. Shrooms on occasion, but other than that, I steer clear of the rough stuff. I don't like the addictive qualities other drugs have, and I don't really enjoy the high of any of them. Besides, the guy I get bud off of is relaxed, my age, normal. The guys I've seen who sell (and use) PCP are pretty gross or sketchy. Bad news, the way I see it.

You want to be a good little pot-head? Smoke pot. You wanna be a junkie, start trying the other stuff.

thcbongman
11-06-2004, 02:58 PM
You can lay away with the stereotypes. People from all walks indulge in all kind of substances. Just because you use PCP a few times doesn't mean your a junkie. That's a very narrow way to look at it considering weed is more addictive than PCP.

slipknotpsycho
11-07-2004, 12:20 AM
do i need to go find stories to prove all are true? and yes i know i've never smoked pcp i'm not that stupid and ignorant. and just becuase YOU didn't do any of that shit doesn't mean it hasn't happened before, maybe you should look up the stuff for yourself so you know i'm not trying to "fake" a webpage and posting it here to prove it's true. otherwise i'm done here you can live in whatever world you want to, but "PCP, commonly known as angel dust, is usually classified as a hallucinogen. However, it also has the effects of a stimulant, an anesthetic, or a narcotic pain-killer, depending on how much is taken. PCP has powerful and unpredictable hallucinogenic properties " unpredictable being the keyword meaning you don't always know what it's going to do to you, "As a result, individual PCP episodes can vary greatly. Many PCP users are brought to emergency rooms because of its unpleasant psychological effects or because of overdose. Continued PCP use can lead to psychological dependence, as well as tolerance. " can vary greatly is the key statement there. "PCP was developed in the 1950's as an intravenous anesthetic. Use of PCP in humans was discontinued in 1965, because it was found that patients often became agitated, delusional, and irrational while recovering from its anesthetic effects. " delusional, that is beyond "tripping" (halucinating) that is seeing things believing they're real you can believe anything in the world when delusional, becuase you lose touch with reality. "PCP (phencyclidine) was first used in the 1950s as an anesthetic for surgery. But because it produced such highly undesirable side effects as convulsions during operations and post-operative hallucinations, its use was quickly discontinued. " "PCP is difficult to classify accurately, since different doses produce different effects - such as those derived from stimulants, hallucinogens, anesthetics, or analgesics (painkillers). Not all people react the same way to the drug, even after taking the same amount. " sorry to the person who asked this but no one could accurately tell you what's going to happen, that statement says it all. "Moreover, since the content of PCP varies widely from one street product to another, the intensity and duration of its effects cannot be predetermined. In street samples analysed at the Addiction Research Foundation, PCP content ranged from 1.3 to 81 mg per unit dose. " that just backs up the last FACT and makes it a whole hell of a lot worse. "At low doses (e.g. 5 mg or less), the physical effects of PCP may include: shallow and rapid breathing, increased blood pressure and heart rate, a marked rise in temperature, profuse sweating, and a numbness in arms and legs. At higher doses (e.g. 10 mg or more), there is a rapid drop in blood pressure, heart rate, and respiration, which in turn is accompanied by nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, dizziness, and decreased awareness of pain. Muscles contract so intensely they cause jerky, uncoordinated movements and bizarre postures. Heavy doses of the drug can cause convulsions and coma. " even at low doses it still has very severe side effects (note: again it doesn't react to everybody the same way therefore JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HAD IT DOESN'T MEAN SOMEONE ELSE WON'T!!. "PCP's effects on the brain inhibit the user's ability to concentrate, to think logically, and to articulate. Dramatic changes in perception, thought, and mood occur. While some users experience mild to intense euphoria, others feel threatened and because of fear, anxiety, or panic - can behave violently. The drug may also release hidden emotional or mental problems. " that right there says enough! "Some deaths have been directly linked to PCP overdoses (with amounts between 150 and 200 mg); others have been linked to the drug's psychological impact - causing accidental drownings, suicides, homicides, and car crashes. " and finally! look here what does that say? does that back up everything i've been saying? i thought so! now these were taken from two sites but the latter of the set was taken from here (http://www.bacteria.nl/phencycl.html) . for those of you who do not believe me look it up your self don't try to debate me cuz these are FACTS taken from sites

bob banana
11-07-2004, 01:59 AM
Fucked up drug, to say the least. Don't bother with it. Everything you've ever heard bad about it is true...and in all seriousness, not as bad as it actually is. If you want an anestitic drug...take ketamine (animal tranq). Not nearly as insane as PCP and isn't QUITE as bad for you.
hasnt any one seen J and silent bob when j goes in the animal lab "hey man tranquilizer gun, this shit will FUCK YOU UP!!!!!!!!!!!!"
prety very hilarious that....




.....yeah.....

bob banana
11-07-2004, 02:06 AM
what if that one time is the time you find out your body will have a very severe, most likely fatal, brain damaging at minimum effect to you putting an outside chemical into your body? would you say that time effects your body? or the people who think they are invincible and go rob a store or get in a high speed chase and run over some kid? ever think about that stuff?
contrary to what u may think ganga is also a fuking chemicall, its just ur body doesnt mind it, in fact, its got fuking receptors waiting for it... but yeah
stick to weed, i dont drink that much either, evenmtho i almost never get hung over i prefer weed 1000x more.
all other drugs either stay in ur body for long or have bad side effects , plus all htose hallucinatives are the most user dependant, as in each person has diffirent reactions, like weed is kinda the same but the trips got so much to do wit yo mind that it just depends on teh person.


fuck that, but dont take my advice to seriously, i have no other drug expirience.no cigs, little alcohol, no coke

uh yeah and when i was 12 i took solvents but i prety much forgot that never done it again

thcbongman
11-07-2004, 12:43 PM
Slip, no one is denying PCP can be awlful to you, and give you nasty side effects.

But you are extremely bias on the subject, and have not experienced PCP. A lot of your postings stem from what you don't know. For one your bias enough to omit the following information off the link you provided:

"Short-term effects appear soon after taking a single dose of PCP, and disappear within a few hours or days.

A particular concern with PCP is the frequency with which dealers falsely present it as some other drug, such as mescaline or peyote. Thus buyers, expecting the relatively mild effects of these drugs, suddenly experience the stronger and unpredictable effects of PCP - or of PCP combined with another drug such as LSD.

Psychological dependence is suggested by the compulsive daily consumption of, and craving for, the drug by some users.

There is no physical dependence on PCP after continuous use, for there are no withdrawal symptoms after the drug is discontinued."

"PCP's effects on the brain inhibit the user's ability to concentrate, to think logically, and to articulate. Dramatic changes in perception, thought, and mood occur. While some users experience mild to intense euphoria, others feel threatened and because of fear, anxiety, or panic - can behave violently. The drug may also release hidden emotional or mental problems. " that right there says enough! "

Yea so does the following: Marijuana, Shrooms, LSD, 2c-x, 5-MEO-XXX, AMT, TMA-X, MDMA etc. I guess you going to stop smoking marijuana? Violence if it occurs is caused by the users psychological state, not the substance itself.


"delusional, that is beyond "tripping" (halucinating) that is seeing things believing they're real you can believe anything in the world when delusional, becuase you lose touch with reality. "

I know what real hallucinations are like since I took Datura previously. PCP doesn't not even touch that experience. Datura (which is natural by the way) is a lot more life-threatening than PCP. PCP is an disassociative, and gives you an out of body experience, not hallucinations, let alone true hallucinations, which is your definition above. It's not a psychedelic.

"PCP is difficult to classify accurately, since different doses produce different effects - such as those derived from stimulants, hallucinogens, anesthetics, or analgesics (painkillers). Not all people react the same way to the drug, even after taking the same amount. sorry to the person who asked this but no one could accurately tell you what's going to happen, that statement says it all. "

PCP is a Arylcyclohexylamine. It's in the same catagory as disassociates like Ketamine (special K), and Cyclohexamine. Nigga please. This is why you don't base your information off ONE WEBSITE.

In conclusion, if you don't use PCP, or drug in moderation, it can have negative impacts. In moderation, and in a safe environment, PCP is very enjoyable. However as you can look at most of the people who have done PCP, and posted about it, people use it one, or a few times, and don't fuck with it after. PCP has very little addiction potential, contrary to what you have been arguing.

slipknotpsycho
11-07-2004, 10:59 PM
yes i know the effects will go away after a few hours, but they don't always. do i need to go find the permenant effect of it? and again i don't have to smoke it to read the physical effects and if it was the last way i could get high would be off of it i would never do it, it's a dangerous drug period.