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slpntrx5
10-15-2006, 05:18 AM
so i've heard from a friend that smoking cloves is very relaxing, almost the same as marijuana, and tastes really good. has anyone tried this before? i'd like some info before i go waste mom's good spices :thumbsup:
moorephened
10-15-2006, 05:49 AM
Nothing is the same, or close to, the effects of marijuana.
Synthetic THC is not close to marijuana.
Marijuana is Marijuana and that is that.
NWDankBudz
10-15-2006, 07:21 AM
I love smoking cloves! Its like a cigarette, but less dammaging than tabbaco, and it does really relax you alot. I love to smoke a clove or two after a great session of smoking some bud.
The high is no way like marijuana, but it leaves you feeling very relaxed:thumbsup:
Clove cigs are awesome. Just make sure you get the ones that are actually cloves, and not the tobacco "Flavored" like cloves.
rottenPauL
10-15-2006, 07:58 AM
clove???? like the powder-like brown spice that i keep in my kitchen?
B u M b L ee K y
10-15-2006, 03:24 PM
Cloves are disgusting to taste and I can't even begin to imagine how and why you would wanna smoke them....
Eraserhead71
10-15-2006, 05:09 PM
i think im allergic to em
EbelEyes
10-15-2006, 05:31 PM
I like Djarum.
pu ekot
10-15-2006, 05:43 PM
There is a huge difference between "cloves" the brown powdery spice and "cloves" the ciggarette like things.  Don't roll a joint with a powdery spice!  Get a friend who is 18 to buy you some cloves, and see what it's like.  They sell them at most gas stations.
deftdrummer
10-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Djarum blacks are some of the best cloves. One thing about cloves though is that if you smoke too much of them you get so sick that you never want to have another one for the rest of your life and even the fait smell can kind of get you nauseated. 
I believe that NWdankbudz is a little misinformed however. I have always heard (and experienced) clove cigarettes messing with your lungs way worse than any normal cigarettes. In fact, I know for sure that if you smoke clove cigarettes regularly that they make your lungs bleed. Cloves give you a good head change for a minute but watch it cause they can really mess up an otherwise good night!
Funyons
10-15-2006, 05:57 PM
cloves will work a little but nutmeg...oh boy if you eat alot of nutmeg you will get stoned!! no joke http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg.shtml
hello3pat
10-15-2006, 07:04 PM
Clove ciggarettes taste great and everything but they are MUCH more dangerous than tobacco. It doesn't take that many to put a hole in you lung. It's partly because of their filter and what's in it.
Jaycub
10-15-2006, 09:47 PM
Alice,
I love clove cigarettes, but I don't want to get addicted or cancer. Are cloves bad for you like regular cigarettes are?
puffy
 
Dear puffy,
Contrary to popular belief, clove cigarettes, also called kreteks, contain tobacco â?? they are made up of 60 - 70 percent tobacco and 30 - 40 percent shredded cloves (a spice). Considering their tobacco content, clove cigarettes are probably as harmful and dangerous as regular cigarettes. As a matter of fact, kreteks may hold even more risk than ordinary smokes. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), clove cigarettes produce at least twice as much nicotine, tar, and carbon monoxide as regular American cigarettes brands.
Plus, there may be an additional risk due to their clove content. The major active ingredient in cloves is eugenol, which is a topical anesthetic used in dentistry. The short- and long-term health effects of eugenol are not well known, and little inhalation toxicology research has been done on this substance. However, when smoked, eugenol numbs the throat and impairs the gag reflex. This anesthetizing effect could cause some problems; for example, liquids and/or food could more easily go down the wrong pipe. Smokers may not feel the harshness of the smoke as strongly, so they are more likely to inhale the smoke more deeply and hold it in the lungs for a longer period of time before exhaling. As a result, it's possible, or even likely, that eugenol has the potential to facilitate lung infections, respiratory illnesses, or allergic reactions in certain users, especially in smokers with existing breathing problems and/or other sensitivities.
Although clove cigarette smokers share some adverse health symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, allergic reactions, bronchitis, pneumonia, and coughing up blood, the cause-and-effect relationship between smoking clove cigarettes and these symptoms has not yet been definitively established. Regardless, it seems reasonable to assume that clove cigarettes are as harmful and dangerous or even more so than standard cigarettes.
Clove cigarettes are one of several kinds of alternative smokes. Others include bidis (tiny, inexpensive, flavored dark tobacco containing cigarettes hand rolled with a dried tendu leaf), herbal or vegetable-based cigarettes with no tobacco and nicotine, and additive-free, natural tobacco cigarettes. Often, alternative cigarette smokers are part of the under 30 crowd. People smoke the "alternatives" because they think that they are cool and/or safer, healthier, and more natural to smoke than standard smokes. Cool or not, smoking alternative cigarettes can be as harmful and even dangerous to one's health as regular ones.
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2317.html
deftdrummer
10-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Jaycub you are a badass
Jaycub
10-16-2006, 08:20 PM
Jaycub you are a badass
Thanks, I just like to keep people informed ^_^
Fight the machine!
NWDankBudz
10-17-2006, 03:12 AM
Wow I would never of geussed that cloves are that bad for you? Anyways good thing I only smoke them on occasion or when a friend has one.:thumbsup:
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