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Acouwaila
10-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Ok heres the deal...

most of my life my mother has been on the side witht he media when it comes to marijuana ...she doesnt want me doing it at all....

however we had a talk about it about a week ago and she said she did it for 4 years and she agreed that it was less harmful than alcohol...

now the thing is...my parents get drunk every friday and saturday night just about and it seems everytime they do, they get in a fight.....or one ends up hurting the other (not physically)

just this morning my mom told me that my dad should really stop drinking...now the question is..

should i propose the idea of him starting to smoke marijuana instead? Its better for his health and it most likely won't start the emotional fights as well...

i mean she already pretty much knows i smoke...and she already told me she cant stop me from doing it....but it still seems risky...what do you guys think?

p.s. she told me my father once considered starting when he had his liver problems...

Acouwaila
10-14-2006, 03:22 PM
bump. help.

BobBong
10-14-2006, 03:38 PM
If your father has liver problems alcohol is the last thing he should be putting back every weekend.

It wouldn't hurt to suggest.. it seems you have a very open relationship with your parents.. take advantage of it.
Many of us will never be able to approach our parents as openly as you've been able to. If he says no, so what? his decision.. technically you can't make him stop drinking either.. but you can certainly try :)

Best of luck,
Just be honest and open with your parents... It's something that few of us are able to do.

Bob.

Acouwaila
10-14-2006, 03:39 PM
thanks Bob, ill keep that in mind

Grava Flave
10-14-2006, 03:42 PM
do it dude, make it sound lyk a joke at first then go serious.

i tried wit my mom but she just told me to shut up

u cant get in trouble for suggesting it... well i mean i dont kno ur parents but it seems unreal that u would

Acouwaila
10-14-2006, 03:46 PM
yeah I think im gonna wait until they get drunk again and take advantage of it lol...but i dont know yet...

deftdrummer
10-14-2006, 04:21 PM
since your parents are obviously older, suggest the possibility of vaporizing. It seems to me most "adults" even the ones that have smoked in the past like new alternatives to taking a huge bong rip. vaporizing is just the trick! I just purchased my vapolution vaporizer from www.vapolution.com and it is fantastic! Maybe you have heard negative and positives about vaporizers, but the truth of the matter is that it is so healthy for you I almost thought it wasn't doing anything when I first tried it yesterday. This vaporizer is $125 shipped and has a heat setting control and is glass on glass rather than ceramic or metal heating elements.

Without having to buy anything I would just suggest waiting until he has had a few drinks in him (but not drunk) and just ask if he wants to "take a load off" or something like that. I dont know how your parents react to certain things but just propose it like you would any other friend or new acquaintence. Good luck! even more than drugs though, perhaps trying a family member / input based approach and try to help them as their son maybe. Switching from one habit to another is not necessarily going to produce outstanding results. Try having them work it out like humans ought to - with communication!

4gan2ja0
10-14-2006, 04:25 PM
i'd say go for it man, it cant hurt to try, and im sure if you present it in a way that makes him see that alcohol is the devil and cannabis is the answer to all life's problems.:thumbsup:

birdgirl73
10-14-2006, 04:33 PM
Maybe this'll sound too practical, but if your dad already likes alcohol to excess, it seems to me the last thing he needs is encouragement toward another substance, whether it's less harmful or not. Just my gut feeling . . . . sounds like complete sobriety might be the better alternative for him.

Storm Crow
10-14-2006, 04:41 PM
My mom was a bipolar alcoholic. She drank until her body gave out and suicided at age 59- the same age I am now. I too am an alcoholic, but cannabis blocks the desire for alcohol. I don't drink now. My health is FAR better than my Mom's although I vaporize (and sometimes smoke) cannabis every day. I tried to get her to use cannabis, but she said it was too mild for her (good late 60s Columbian!). I wish I has pushed her toward cannabis more than I did. Crazy bitch that she was, I still love and miss her! :( I wish you better luck than I had!

birdgirl73
10-14-2006, 04:44 PM
That's good to know, Storm Crow, that cannabis blocks the desire for alcohol, at least in you. In some people, sadly, that's not the case, tho. So sorry about the loss of your mom.

jamstigator
10-14-2006, 04:57 PM
Alcoholism runs in my family too. My mother died driving drunk at age 47, so drunk I don't think she even remembered or recognized that I was in the car with her (I was 12 years old at the time). Seeing so many of my family dragged down by alcohol, I have mostly given it up. I share a bottle of wine occasionally with the woman, maybe once or twice a month. If more people would smoke pot instead of drink alcohol, there'd be a lot less misery in this world, I am convinced of that.

My big test was this year's Bonnaroo. Normally, I'm a social drinker; I'm shy around people, and drinking helps with that. But I decided to skip the drinking anyway, and I did it, the whole 4 days at Bonnaroo. Wasn't even hard, although I expected it to be. I guess I've gone so long without that crutch now that it doesn't bother me not to have it.

If you could convince your dad to give up drinking and turn to pot, he'd almost surely live a longer and happier life. Might be hard to convince him of that though.

wadejason
10-14-2006, 05:18 PM
yeeeahh...hm it doesnt hurt to ask i wouldnt do it when they are drunk. ask when their sober or start drinkin. maybe if dads hungover or something and mom says "thats what you get for drinkin so much" you could jump in and go "yep, so maybe you should think about smokin some herb instead". show your parents the facts, go to norml, show them health reports. convince them its not the drug "that makes you stupid and kills brain cells" when they smoked it in college. show them that times have changes and today weed is fantastic, no seeds no stems (i guess that depends on where and who your getting it from too) and again the vaporizer idea is great. maybe a phx? nice glass on glass bong haha but maybe a vaporizer would be safer.

let us know what happens because my dad is an alcoholic (but hes nice) and he is on pills for hypertension and mom who is going through some bullshit but i convinced her of medicinal marijuana and i go to the club for her all the time and it works so im thinkin of asking MY dad even to stop drinkin before he dies and start smoking up the green.

Greenport
10-14-2006, 05:20 PM
Yeah, tell him you will share some weed with your father, smoke with him. But tell him if he drinks you wont share with him anymore. That is what I would do

Acouwaila
10-14-2006, 06:15 PM
Thanks for all of the advice guys but I think I may have given you guys the wrong impression..

my father isnt an alcoholic...its just that everytime my parents drink they tend to fight a lot and its big fights (so im worried one might go wrong)

so yeah....like someone said....i was gonna propose the idea today while my dad is going through a hangover but i havnt done it yet....

im actually thinking about sending my mom an e-mail with everything i want to say in it....its much easier for me to talk that way...and i can get across everything i want to say. I think if i include that I am being completely serious and im just trying to care for their relationship then she will listen.
She would propose the idea to my father and he'd probably try it out. But im not sure. Ive got a bit more thinking to do

LIP
10-14-2006, 06:53 PM
It's a shame people feel whats its like to get stoned before smoking, if they'd just agree to try it once they'll never go back.

Weed is more enjoyable than alcohol, and as we already know, a hell of alot better for you, however you look at it.

Weed will help, even if he starts smoking heavily daily instead of drink he will at least do his liver a favour, and he'd just be a good dad.

deftdrummer
10-16-2006, 04:44 PM
Thanks for all of the advice guys but I think I may have given you guys the wrong impression..

my father isnt an alcoholic...its just that everytime my parents drink they tend to fight a lot and its big fights (so im worried one might go wrong)

so yeah....like someone said....i was gonna propose the idea today while my dad is going through a hangover but i havnt done it yet....

im actually thinking about sending my mom an e-mail with everything i want to say in it....its much easier for me to talk that way...and i can get across everything i want to say. I think if i include that I am being completely serious and im just trying to care for their relationship then she will listen.
She would propose the idea to my father and he'd probably try it out. But im not sure. Ive got a bit more thinking to do

No offense man, we are all here trying to help you but I gotta say that you really need to try to communicate with your parents. I don't know the exact circumstances that have led you to feel more comfortable writing an email, but seriously take that route as a last resort if you can. These are your parents we're talking about here, if you sit down in a serious manner with either of them they will listen to you. Show that you care about them and talk to them. I don't know what age you are but it doesn't matter because I guarantee that if you talk to them in person and look them in the eyes they will think that much more of you and you're maturity level. Don't rule anything out but also don't sit there and stew about it. Sometimes ideas come and then they leave so don't make too much of it.

Good luck.

napolitana869
10-16-2006, 08:13 PM
writing your thoughts down in a note or email can be better because emotions dont get in the way and lead to you saying something you didnt mean to say, and it makes it so you can get all your thoughts across and not forget something you wanted to say

TheSmokingMonkey
10-16-2006, 11:58 PM
Yes, I say suggest it. Either to you dad or to your mom, whoever you think is easier to talk to.

higher4hockey
10-17-2006, 12:22 AM
if you ask your dad to quit drinking booze and start smoking....you have to let us know the result, like word for word, maybe you should video tape yourself doing this......:D

halosin8r
10-17-2006, 05:19 AM
my dad smoked a good amount in his life, but for about 5 years, he didnt touch it. couldnt find it.

around three years ago, he started drinking hard alch. Vodka, morning, noon, night, 3am, and so on.
lost his job. divorce. now a wreck.

2 years ago, when I lived with him, I got him to just drink beer, and got him to smoke some pot once in a bit.. because some pot, and 6 beers he'd pass out till morning.

he got himself a new job and everything. la-de-do-da

then BAM, this year, he did it again
hard alch all over again.

but he cant smoke due to his job, so Im at a loss just stealing his bottles and locking them away... he just buys another.


but yeah, I'd propose pot. Start off about Denver, Colorado legalizing an ounce for an ALCOHOL ALTERNATIVE. It worked (sorta) in my case, and might yours too.

BaknBlake
10-17-2006, 05:44 AM
you should propose the idea...if it works out, you can explain how growing your own would be less dangerous than buying it...

Ol Schwaggy Bastard
10-17-2006, 05:47 AM
Bake pot cookies and leave them around for him, he'll figure out what's up.

halosin8r
10-17-2006, 06:42 AM
Bake pot cookies and leave them around for him, he'll figure out what's up.

that idea has occurd to me many of times as a prank..
safe among good friends and fellow family tokers.