WK 4 FLOWER!!! your valuable opinions please!!!

[antwanio126]

Hi there guys, i've mannaged so far with building, growing and flowering my first really succesfull grow thanks to all you guys so i'd like to start by saying thanks for all the knowledge and support you guys offer!!

My plant is in a cabinet 2' by 3' grow space with additional room for a 250w hps and 5 100w equivalent cfl's. 2 fans in there, one for atmoshphere cooling and one for cooling the hps, bloody things get hot!!!!

i was being impatient as i wanted to see if this grow would work in this small space, and flowered after only 4 weeks veg (about 6 nodes) so i know the yeild wont be great this time but plane to SGROG some big bud x northern lights seeds which i'm getting next week.

the plant has been on 12/12 for 4 weeks now and has about 8 pair of budsites, the main cola and 4 branches which i'm trying to lst into the light to get a descent bud off them.

I'm a little concerned about the lower fan leaves yellowing and the small bud it has, i fed the plant a solution of NPK 10-5-2 during veg and gradually went onto NPK 3-10-10 for flower. I have applied Epsom Salts and a high N solution with no luck so maybe the plant is jus using its nutrients from the leaves as part of its natural flowering process??? also am i being impatient with the bud? will it fatten up as it geas through the last few weeks?

Sorry about the fucking essay, i'm jus trying to give you all the info i can! HELP!!!!

also sorry about crappy pics!!!!

[Abattoir Dream]

so what soil you using? driveway dirt or high grade compost? when you put them in, do those leaves get light? you may have to flush your soil as there might be a nute build up, so many things could do this its hard to know where to start.
to take a better pic, there should be a flower button on your camera, press it until the flower comes up on screen, (it should then go away) this is called macro, now, move the camera closer or further away to get the sharpest picture on screen u can get, instead of getting closer use the zoom, the focus will stay the same, but it will get closer, holding still and pressing the button correctly also helps, good luck on taking some better pics ;)
lastly, where abouts in the uk you from? im from poole (near bournemouth) and was jw how dry u got it there? its not bad at all here, just outta curiosity, just answer those questions and it should be easier to find out whats wrong, - peace n happy growin'...:)

[antwanio126]

thanks for the reply abbitoir.

i'm using bag compost which i know isn't the best!!!

the leaves are getting pleanty of light as i have hung the cfl's low round the sides of the plant to engourage lower bud growth.

i'm from leicester. humidity in my grow room isn't monitored.... i know.... dont shoot me!!!:o just cant afford a humidity gauge.

any ideas on the small buds? the pics are from my phone so they are the best i can get at the mo... sorry!

[antwanio126]

my friend has just ome round with his camera so here are some better pics....

the spots on the leaves are dust, not real weed acne!!!:smokin:

[antwanio126]

do people think i should flush then?

will those buds get fatter and longer with time?

any help much appreciated, thanks guys.

[orangeman]

The pics are a bit blurry, but the only reasonable explination other than soil pH or what ever is that it's just suffering from low Nitrogen.

And if the pH of the soil isnt correct or your experiencing problems when everything seems right then I would flush.

[Abattoir Dream]

lol i never bother with humidity, as long as you dont go bringing in alot of water and boiling it up in the room or anything, youll be fine, most rooms are dry enough, its larger scale grows that really get humid as orangeman said its probably low nitrogen, try going back to the first nutes you were using, and if it helps, use it for the rest of its life, also just wondering, you got much perlite in there? personally ive never had this problem, any leaves that went yellow for me went yellow in patches, so i think this is a case of low nutes, like i say, try using the old nutes, that might do the trick, peace and good luck. - expect me back sometime soon - i like this thread

[antwanio126]

i like the advise you have given me too so your always welcome. i'm gonna flush her today as those leaves have gone all floppy and havent got long left if i dont do something!!! then i'll revert to the old nutes.

anyone got any advise on the buds yet? are they gonna get bigger, better and juicier as the weeks go by? maybee i'm just being paranoid... too much weed or something lol. anyway advise always welcome!!! thanks guys.

[antwanio126]

as for pearlite i haven't got any in.... i didn't know much when i started growing this plant so i know now for next time!!! lol.

[antwanio126]

jus a quicky, i know you will al say 'its impossible to predict' but looking at my setup and size of plant do you think i will get a decent yeild (i.e.) enough for me!!! for a few weeks??? again, i know its not easy to say... jus wondered.

[Weedhound]

Your plant looks a little....shy of the mark. There are several things that I noticed--first one being that your pot looks small for that size plant so I wonder if it is rootbound. It definitely pays to go the extra mile in the beginning; use good soil, make sure of your nutes (the ones you are using also seem a little..well...shy of the mark) because you just put several months of time into that thing and would still put the same amount of time in with different soil, nutes etc and get a better yield. The focus is a little off in your photos but just guessing I would say probably a couple of grams when you are done. I have no comments about your lighting because I don't know one single thing about it..I use a 1kwatt thing that was recommended to me and all I know about it is you turn it on, turn it off etc... (works great!) Good luck.

[antwanio126]

do we think i should re-pot? or is it too late in her life? if so, will she make it through to the end without re-potting???

thanks again, you guys are genious!!!lol

[GanjaBaby]

Its never too late to repot! The pots you are using do look a tad tight, are the tips of your leaves a yellow??? If they are a little yellow you know its time to repot. You are growing an Indica, and a fairly stout one at that so i would suggest you find a nice 11L pot, mix some perlite and dolomite lime in there if you havent already, and give her a nice watering. Yellowing leaves at the bottom of tall plants isnt a big deal, but yours isnt that tall, so i would try to give her a little more Nitrogen, and if that doesnt work then flush her, wait a day or two and give her some mild nutes with high P and K. Otherwise she looks decent, but like Weedhound said you will probably get a couple grams, i think (if she has 4 more weeks left to flower) that you should easily be able to get 10-12 grams. Should have vegged a little longer ;-)
Peace

[antwanio126]

Overnight the leaves have gone all brown and curled, almost every leaf has a yellow tip! i flushed her yesterday in the sink, put her to bed as normal.... any ideas??? dont want her to not make it through!!! really wanna take her to the end!!!

thanks guys!

[antwanio126]

the smaller leaves are getting brown holes in them and dying too!!! please help!!!

[antwanio126]

well guys, i repotted her into a 5 litre pot about three hours age, nice dry soil round her roots with wet new soil for the roots to reach down to. After only three hours there is some green coming back through the veins on the fan leaves!!! yay!!! fongers crossed she might be ok, still in intensive care but we're getting there i think!!!

[Abattoir Dream]

lol thank god for that, glad shes holdin on, once it returns to its greenest point, itll be able to grow better, especially if colour returns to the whole plant, as for whether your gonna get alot of weed, your buds are gonna get bigger a little faster now, and if you wait right till the end and make sure you keep them happy i think you might get an acceptable amount, but when growing one plant i always try to make flavour my main goal, as its not often you pull massive amounts from one plant, just make sure towards the end you water it clean water and stop giving it nutrients (to get rid of the nasty tastes) dry it and cure it right and savour the smoke, after all, you want it to be worth the effort dont you??? I wish you luck, and a wholesome fruity yeild... whatever lol good job...

[antwanio126]

cheers for that abattior, i'll def keep you posted!

on another note now, does anyone have any advice on nutes now? like i say, i'm using npk 2-10-10 at the mo. jus wondered if this is ok for this stage of flower (about 5 weeks now) and if there is anything you would all change?

cheers all... happy growing

[invision]

with that 2-10-10 what strength are you giving her?

normally i start with 1/4 of what the mix says to add to the water and in a week if she looks good move up to 50/50 just play it safe and dont go full strength right away.

[antwanio126]

yeah i started with 1/4 and she looked fine, giving it her about two to three times a week. she went throught her bad spell but i think that was jus the pot so if everyone thinks its safe then i'll move it up to 1/2?

[Abattoir Dream]

i'd do it from 1/4 to like 3/8 then 2/4 just do it gradually, otherwise it can be risky, and that way if it starts dying its not so hard to fix.... good luck m8

[antwanio126]

Well guys, its been about a week and a half now and she is doing great!!! the buds are getting nice and fat, coverd in hairs and trichs so fingers crossed it should be a good smoke!!! i'll keep you all posted!!

thanks so much for all you help guys!!!

here is some pictures to wet your appetites...

[antwanio126]

well guys, turns out she has serious spider mites!!! and i mean lots!!! i think she will make it to the end of her cycle cos i think she will be ready in about a week (smoked a sample last night and wow!!! it was gooood shiiit!!!) so not too bothered about the mites this time, she should make it to the end.

i've just planted my bubleicious seeds in my veg room (seperate room) and will be transfering them into my cabinet once this girl is gone. any ideas and advice on how to fumigate the cabinet to get rid of the mites so the bastards dont infest the next lot??? remember i'm in the uk so i cant get american products. what you think to 50/50 bleach and water sprayed in the room? when the plant is gone obviously!!! thanks guys!!!

[checkmark9]

growing is so exciting, im happy she made it through the rough times.

lol when you smoke that stuff youll be smoking so many dead spider mites, tell people its laced

id try to get rid of them now tho but im not sure

i bet if u just LSTed u would get a lot more out your plant, for next time i mean.

gl

[antwanio126]

thinking about doing a scrog if i only get one female again, otherwise if i get two or three then i'll do a sog.

i've just ordered some stuff off the net which apparently protects against spider mites and also increases plant growth so i'm gonna give the new babies this product through their life. i'm also gonna bleack and strip the cabinet. sound like a sound plan guys?

[TheBudBuster]

Very Interesting thread. glad to hear the plant tasty good. How old was the plant alltogther then..
Peace
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[antwanio126]

the plant was 4 weeks old when it went to flower, its now in week six flower so ten weeks altogether. not bad i suppose, jus worried about these mites, dont want em infesting my next grow!!!!

jus changed my light period to 10/14 yesterday to try and speed her along so the mites dopnt kill her till she's ready but i think she will be fine... this time!!!

[GanjaBaby]

Check the Ph of your water.... tap water usually has a high Ph, 8-8.5. That kind of Ph will kill your plant. Use bottled water, my tap water is terrible so i used bottled water...not Evian or anything, just cheap bottled water. Ph testing kits are only a few quid and you can perform hundreds of tests with a little vile of Ph solution. Worth every penny! Peace

[antwanio126]

well. i gave her some unrefined sugar in water today, she has been on 10/14 for 3 days now and she is doing...ok... i pulled off her fan leaves so as to put her in survival mode to get her ripe before thos fucking mites eat her alive!!! about a week left i reckon, so fingers crossed she will survive.

my 4 sprouts are a week old tomorrow and have 3 sets of leaves and are looking very good!!! yeah, 3 sets of leaves and only a week old INCLUDING germination!! i'll keep you all posted on both grows!!!

Any advice on things you think i've missedis greatfully recieved!!!
Peace Out!

[TheBudBuster]

cool grow man.. happy token

Peace
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