Why are people putting tobacco in joints ? [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

blaze one

10-11-2006, 04:05 AM

EbelEyes

10-11-2006, 04:23 AM

I've never had one, but I'm sure that some flavored tobacco would be great with some Reefer.

I think I'll try that. :thumbsup:

Newglory

10-11-2006, 04:40 AM

I dunno, persoanlly im not a fan of joints. but when thats all u can get then whatever.
But whenever i do make joints i skip tobacco, mostly cuz i dont have any cigs on me.
and i think it might have something to do with burning

piercedpunkonpot

10-11-2006, 04:43 AM

I do know that when I smoke weed out of my Hookah I put a small layer of tobacco in the bottom of and right on top of the bowl. Three Reasons: The tobacco is sticky and keeps the bud from falling through the holes in the bottom of the bowl. Since its wet tobacco (hookah tobacco is marinated in flavors and molassas/glycerin) it makes the weed burn alot slower so you can light up and enjoy for a much longer time than just letting it all burn up under the charcoal. And lastly, it tastes realy good, and sometimes the nicotine can change the way the high feels. Kinda why some people I smoke with will smoke a Black n' Mild or a cigarette afterwards. As for tobacco in a joint, maybe it makes the high different, dunno never tried it that way. When I get good strains of bud nothing is better than smoking a straight joint of it or smoking it a glass piece... Ahh pure KB, nothing like it!

Newglory

10-11-2006, 04:56 AM

So wait, would like opening a cig and putting i layer in my bowl make it burn slower? or do u mean actual tobacco?

NMTBxxHTSP

10-11-2006, 05:41 AM

It's mostly a U.K. thing from my understanding of it. No one I know would ever put baccy in there joints but I do know kids from the U.K. that think I'm an idiot for not. You can use any type of tabacco you want, what ever you feel like smoking with your pot i guess. hey piercedpunkonpot, that sounds awsome, I've always wanted to smoke a hooka.

biohazard

10-11-2006, 05:46 AM

i enjoy them together for two reasons:

- i can have a big joint out of tabacco and weed, where most the time i would roll a small one with just ganj
- i like the taste of both of them together (im a smoker tho keep that in mind)

CultureCherryPopper

10-11-2006, 05:55 AM

Some do it to help it burn evenly or slower, but if you roll a joint properly it shouldn't be an issue. My buddy uses tobacco from Camels, not a fan really, despite bein' a smoker. Don't like to mix the two, especially blunts. Bleh.

Left

10-11-2006, 07:18 AM

with good bud you dont always want to put as much in a joint as most peoples minimum requirements to roll a joint so tobacco can fill in the space and make it fatter then a cigarette..

Oneironaut

10-11-2006, 07:25 AM

I don't know why you'd want to fuck up the wonderful taste of weed with that awful nauseating crap.

Reefer Rogue

10-11-2006, 08:04 AM

It's a UK thing, perhaps jamaican in some way because of the word spliff which intends the blending of both cannabis and tobacco. I think that's correct information but meh. Personally, I HATE tobacco and i generally smoke alone, just using my bubbler. However, when i'm with my friends all they do is smoke joints and guess what, they put tobacco in them. I'm not gonna pass up getting high, so I just accept it... =/ I will NEVER roll a joint mixed with tobacco, i refuse!

LIP

10-11-2006, 01:00 PM

I put a very small amount of tobacco in some of my joints, it makes it burn better and doesnt effect the taste at all. [as long as you get the amounts right.]

buddymyfriend

10-11-2006, 01:29 PM

I always use a lil splash of tobacco in my joints. Helps em burn better and longer if you get the blend right and no it doesnt effect the taste or high. And I always use tobacco in my hookah, shit burns for AGES!! It's a UK thing, coz us Brits know what we're doing when it comes to the herb!:thumbsup:

Peace

Buddy

Shovelhandle

10-11-2006, 01:38 PM

It's popular to smoke joints with tobacco in Montreal also. I can't tolorate it though.

Dazed4now

10-11-2006, 01:43 PM

if i dont have enough bud for a joint ill throw some tobacco in it, you cant hold it in forever tho, but it does give you a nicotine fix as well as a pot fix some people like it, others dont

shoi

10-11-2006, 02:06 PM

the only time i mix it with tobacco is if its hash

mattmao

10-11-2006, 02:12 PM

if its hash tabaco if its green just a touch to help the burn.but its a uk thing.smoked all over the world and its only us that do it.

ukmonkey

10-11-2006, 02:26 PM

OK, here in the UK it is considered to be quite extravagent to smoke "purees" (what you lot call joints). (We leave that for the posh public school kids... which are the schools you pay for by the way. Its historic.)

We smoke spliffs which are about 50% tobacco. Tobacco makes the spliff smoke evenly, more efficiently (it keeps the weed at the correct heat) and stops it from going out. Don't you guys find it annoying when your passing a joint around and it keeps going out? Don't try to say its about rolling technique cos we roll the best spliffs around! Good weed goes out when smoked pure.

Oh by the way if you want to roll with backy get rolling backy (in the UK golden virginia is best). If your on the move however it can be handy to roll with a cig.)... I'll refrain from saying fag for your benefit :rasta:

ukmonkey

10-11-2006, 02:32 PM

The gay server won't let me edit the above post so in adition:

Edit: Oh yeah and also with the skunk we get over here, a puree blows your mind! When i'm low on money and get standard weed I have to say I do boost up the weed/ backy ratio and normally do an L-skin which is about an inch longer spliff.

Purple Banana

10-11-2006, 03:04 PM

We smoke spliffs which are about 50% tobacco. Tobacco makes the spliff smoke evenly, more efficiently (it keeps the weed at the correct heat) and stops it from going out. Don't you guys find it annoying when your passing a joint around and it keeps going out? Don't try to say its about rolling technique cos we roll the best spliffs around! Good weed goes out when smoked pure.

I don't know what kind of weed you're smoking, or what types of rolling papers you use, but my joints (100% weed) have never stopped burning unless I put them out. Maybe we use different methods? Instead of cone-shaped, mine resemble typical cigarettes.

Skink

10-11-2006, 03:18 PM

sitting here with a pipe in my heart and the recall of the agonizing year it took me to not want to light a cigarette...

tobacco is a foolish additive...

If you are new to pot and tobacco,,, UK or not... DO NOT try tobacco for the first time,,,please,,, it has no value and many negatives...

buddymyfriend

10-11-2006, 03:40 PM

LIP

10-11-2006, 03:44 PM

Yeah, thats a good point skink. If your new to weed and havnt smoked tobacco before dont put tobacco in cos you'll get addicted to it.

It has no good points, only bad, although because im one of the idiots i smoke cigs so it makes no differnce to me, but yeah seriously, dont smoke fags.

MrGuyUK

10-11-2006, 05:19 PM

i'd like to chip in here:)

im from yorkshire (midlands sort of in UK) and yeah, most people put tobacco in joints round here. the only reason i dont if it's a blunt, if i have loads or i an others wanna get really messed up.

Person, i rarely smoke to get totally out of my face lol, normally i smoke during college at the local park with friends, and if we have to go back to college after, so if we're totally messed, it raises suspicions.

But from my understanding, the bacci pads it out a bit, helps it burn better and changes the high a bit aswell.

I'm not a smoker so i don't really like the thought of tobacco in my joint, but it would just be too expensive/inconvenient to roll pure skunk spliffs all the time.

last time i had anything that resembled pure skunk was a really crappy blunt paper i rolled (cigar length, maybe a bit longer, blueberry flavoured bacci skin thing) and when i rolled it and poked it down, it was about 1/5th of the length of the paper and fatter than most cigars, so i got my grinder out and started packing it with weed, after it ws about 4/5ths full, my grinder was forcefully removed by friends insisting i put no more weed in or i'll kill us all (shandy drinkin puffs!) needless to say, it took 3 sessions and a combined total of 6 people to smoke it, but it was grand. there was probably more than £5 maybe even £10 worth of weed in that one blunt.

But yeah, like i said, its convenience, cheaper, burns better.

All opinion though i suppose.

Hansel

10-11-2006, 05:27 PM

Same in Ireland.
I nearly always have bacci in my joints. Burns better and stretches your weed a bit methinks.
It's rare around these parts that you'd have a joint without tobacco :|

InTheJungle

10-11-2006, 05:37 PM

My boys like to put tobacco in the joints we blaze. i dont care either way though. They say it's because it burns nicer, I can't tell the difference. :/

gotuve

10-11-2006, 05:45 PM

PederseN

10-11-2006, 05:50 PM

over here we Toast the The tobacco this help to Get the Nikotine and others ingredients out.. Its works very well when done correctly You get a much Smoother smoke which last longer.. But we also seems to smoking on some bigger Pibes "lol"

azure

10-11-2006, 05:59 PM

Everyone ive ever known who smoked in england have put baccy in with thier j's, with most of them it would be about 60% tobacco. With everyone ive met in uni so far who smokes its like 90% tobacco joints, fucking stupid, i cant be arsed preaching to them i just say no to thier joints.

canucktoker

10-11-2006, 06:02 PM

Something people need to realize about adding tobacco to joints is a mostly european thing. They don't have the same tobacco as we do over here, there's is usually much higher quality(this is just what I've seen from personal experince) and isn't as chemically treated.

I wouldnt add a camel or a marlie or any american cig tobacco to a joint. I put a bit from canadian cig to make it burn better, and definatly it burns longer. I like the taste better personally. I quit cigs a few years ago and the pinch of tobacco doesnt cause me to get back on them, i know because i stop toking every so often and feel no need. I dont put half and half though like just the tip of a cig. Never in bowls.

MrGuyUK

10-11-2006, 06:22 PM

The proportions vary greatly.

I have 2 sets of smoking peers, my local people (live within 2 - 3 miles) and people from college (coollege is only 8 miles away but some pepople travel 25 miles in the morning to get there)

The local people consider a "strong" joint as like 30 - 40% weed, yet at college, a weak one is considered about 50% weed. so it varyies massively.

Personally, it depends on why i'm smoking. if it's to relax a bit before a lesson, i'll roll maybe 40 - 55% weed but if im smoking to get raelly stoned i mite go up to like 80% weed.

after reading this thread, im seriously considering rolling a pure weed joint next time i have the afternoon off at college.

herostyle

10-11-2006, 06:38 PM

I've' done half and half with a shitty joint before it was alrite but i couldn't taste the reefer.

NMTBxxHTSP

10-11-2006, 10:11 PM

[quote=MrGuyUK]there was probably more than £5 maybe even £10 worth of weed in that one blunt.
QUOTE]

I love that...around here we it would be like $20 at least for a decent blunt.
I just paid $60 for an 1/8 of Jack Hair, beasters are like $20 an 1/8 though so that's alright

jay42

10-11-2006, 10:13 PM

Sometimes my friend mixes 50/50 with tobacco if he only wants to use a little bit of some really strong weed. It's only like .3g, which is not really enough to physically roll a good joint, but if it's top quality stuff, then it's still enough to get totally baked. The tobacco helps form the joint when youre not using much weed and helps it burn.

Personally, I save the good stuff for the glass and put straight mids into paper.

NightProwler

10-11-2006, 10:13 PM

i put tobacco in my joints 50% of the time. i like it cuz it gives me a headrush with my high, and it makes the j burn alot slower

what i dont like about it is the taste

i use drum rolling tobacco

Frozen Sativa

10-11-2006, 11:46 PM

No one around here that I know adds tobacco, though iv wanted to try it. Any J iv ever rolled is %100 bud. In my opinion it goes out depending on how well you ground down the weed. If you break it up slopy in your hands, its alot more likley to go out than with chopping the bud with a blade or grinding it.

reallybaked

10-12-2006, 12:12 AM

I have been reading the forums for about a day , and decided I should registar .
My first post has to concern the use of tobacco when rolling a joint . Why ?

Seems like it would affect the taste of the bud .

Sorry if this is a odd question , but I have lived in BC for my whole life , and smoke pot regularly and have never heard of this .

Great site BTW .

I've been told that it's quite popular in Europe, especially Holland. I used to know some Vietnamese guys that used tobacco with weed, They claimed that it made the high last lots longer. When I was a tobacco smoker and I smoked a cig right after a bowl, it seemed to intensify things a bit. However, the only times that I have actually mixed the two is when I've emptied about 3/4 of the tobacco out of a cig then loaded it with weed and added a small amount of tobacco to the top. Great way to smuggle weed into concerts and such. Even with a filtered cig, you still get a damned nice buzz and the tobacco helps to mask the weed smell somewhat.

RB

Frozen Sativa

10-12-2006, 12:43 AM

try gutting the insides of the filter with a pin or somthing...it would kill my buz thinking about how much THC was getting caught in the filter and not in me! :rasta:

Tom Swierzbinski

10-12-2006, 01:54 AM

50/50 mix of weed and baccy? Fuckin hell, thats a lot of baccy! I only use literally a pinch of rolling baccy in the middle of a spliff (layer of weed, layer of baccy, another layer of weed). If im low on herb, then I just roll a small spliff.
I do like pure joints though, but at the moment all thats going around is wet stuff that just about burns with baccy. And its still £25 a friggin eighth! :(

Domiko

10-12-2006, 04:43 AM

I like to mix a little bit of Captain Black Sweets (cigar) tabacco into my spliffs. It makes the joint burn slower. Also, I love the flavour of the Sweets' tabacco. Makes the joint so much better in my opinion.

ukmonkey

10-16-2006, 05:07 PM

^ MATE DON'T USE CIGAR BACCY IN SPLIFFS. INHALING THAT SHIT FUCKS YOU LUNGS LIKE SUCKING ON A CAR EXAUST PIPE!!!

^^ If your paying £25 an eight and your not even getting skunk your getting gipped, for weed i pay a tenner for an eigth. Where do you live?

Your not still getting hit by the drought are you thought tha was over last month!

Kid Dynamite

10-16-2006, 05:22 PM

i put tobacco in my joints 50% of the time. i like it cuz it gives me a headrush with my high, and it makes the j burn alot slower

what i dont like about it is the taste

i use drum rolling tobacco

yeah me too. I use drum gold tobacco. Doesen't have much nicotine in it so all you can taste is the weed in your spliffs.

Creeper

10-16-2006, 06:07 PM

Good weed goes out when smoked pure.

Good, properly cured weed is supposed to stay lit.....if your joint goes out its either the weed wasnt broken up enough or its still too wet...it has nothing to do with quality.

cygnustaxt

10-16-2006, 06:31 PM

I don't really see a point in rolling with tobacco. I don't like the way the flavors mix, plus i smoke cigs so i get enough tobacco intake as it is, lol. It takes a joint to get me high anyway, so if i put tobacco in it, i'd have to smoke twice as much.

chisme

10-16-2006, 06:32 PM

i put tobacco in my joint for multiple reasons

A. it buffs the jint up nice in size
B. you shouldnt bbe using so muhc tobacco that u can taste it ...if you taste the tabacco youve ruined a spliff.
C. personal prefrence
D. MAKES ALL MY ROLLS COME OUT LOOKING BUFF NICE AND TASTY

it may be jsut a me thing but ive noticed when people say theyve rolled a joint of just weed....it allways looks bumpy bent pregnant ot just plain spastic. mine allways come out perfect. and you never taste the tabacco:thumbsup:

just tell me you dont wanna light this fucka up:rasta:

azure

10-16-2006, 06:47 PM

SkatePopwar

10-17-2006, 01:46 AM

i just rolled a j with like, 70% bud, 15% tobacco and 15% catnip. i had to stretch it (i have a naturally low low low tolerence), and theres some kinda synergy between catnip + tobacco..i figured it would be cool!

my 2nd j and its like..perfect, not to brag
but its an ill cone

ukmonkey

10-17-2006, 03:12 PM

what the fuck? you pay a tenner for an eighth damn..
wheres in the uk is that man?

South London, the weeds not great though its quite harsh on the throat so my mates use filters with it and you need to pack quite alot in bt it hits the spot. It got me through the drought and I'm still buying it cos I'm poor at the moment. But If I have the choice I'd pay a bit more for some good skunk anyway. If I'm getting skunk I'll normally pay £35 for a nice Q. Having said that the guy whos getting me the weed is a mate so meh.

LIP

10-17-2006, 03:31 PM

Yeah, weed is always cheaper than skunk, although its harder to find weed these days. Unless its grown by someone and they did a shit job. Some of the outside shitty weed will be on sale now. It's always cheaper.

I only get skunk these days, i've done my time on soapbar and weed... i still like good hash tho every now and again but i think i'll stick with skunk for the time being.

craig spliff

10-17-2006, 03:35 PM

always bosh bout half a cig in me kingsize spliffs and a full one in my 3 sheeters and none in my blunts. everyone i have ever met who rolls joints always use baccy tho

nomadd 39

10-17-2006, 03:55 PM

Tobbaco in weed, I don`t think so. You sure Know how fuck up the primo.
Imagine putting tobbaco in california chronic. Out here people frown on shit like that, you fuck up Perfectly good yesca.

Ignatius

10-17-2006, 03:58 PM

It's a dreadful UK habit to put tobacco in a joint. I used to do it for years, but the last fifteen years or so it's been all pure. The argument about stretching weed doesn't hold water. If you are only holding a small amount just hit it in a pipe. You don't get any higher by making the smoke last longer. Put it this way. If you have a decent whisky, a single malt, would you piss in the glass to make it last longer? If the answer is no then why fuck up your weed? If you actually like to mix then fair enough, but doing it for reasons of economy doesn't make sense.

qdavid

10-17-2006, 04:14 PM

Tobacco in weed seems a waste. But I've never been a fan of blunts either which I suppose would be nearly thre same.

Buddahbear

10-17-2006, 04:15 PM

I think adding tobacco can help with the overall construction of a joint- IE: making it thicker, firmer, roll more easily, so if you smoke tobacco AND joints why not?

craig spliff

10-17-2006, 04:49 PM

I think adding tobacco can help with the overall construction of a joint- IE: making it thicker, firmer, roll more easily, so if you smoke tobacco AND joints why not?

correct

cygnustaxt

10-17-2006, 05:08 PM

so It's pretty much just for the form of the joint? That kind of makes sense then, but if you just want it to look perfect then you could use a roller. My hand rolled joints do look kinda bumpy and they dont have great shape like someone mentioned earlier, but when i use a roller they come out perfect.

MastaChronic

10-17-2006, 05:49 PM

bah! machine rolled joints never burn right, they either get the runs or go out too soon, hand rolling joints is the only way to get that nice slow burn, were the cherry is never any bigger than a few milimeters

Ignatius

10-17-2006, 05:52 PM

If I want a joint to be thicker I just add more weed.

I then smoke as much, or as little of the joint as I feel like.

As I said earlier, you don't piss in a good whisky just to stretch it. Nor do you take a dump on a pizza so you get more topping.

If you like the taste of tobacco with weed then fair enough. No other reason makes any sense whatsoever.

Toolfan33

10-17-2006, 06:19 PM

I try to have an open mind and i have tried a joint with tabacco in it.I think if you have some shwag weed then tabacco would be ok in it or a blunt to cover the taste up.Why anyone would ruin the taste of good weed by adding tabacco, i'll never understand.If you don't have enough weed to roll a joint then smoke a bowl..I have friends who like blunts and ask me to roll my stuff in it and i say hell friggin no,i'd rather roll 10 joints and smoke them with you then smoke a blunt....just my opinion

Iggmasta

10-17-2006, 06:54 PM

It makes it burn longer 95% weed 5% tobacco and you will have a slow burning joint. Also if the weed tastes like shit then tobacco is your friend.

Chuddy

10-17-2006, 07:37 PM

blaze one

10-17-2006, 10:36 PM

Ok , well I didn't get any email notices for this thread , even thought I subscribed to it . But anyway.....

I see why some of you put it in your joints , I guess if you have poor burning weed , and already smoke cigs , it may be your thing .

I don't smoke cigs , and my weed always burns well . So I have no need to add tobacco to the joint .

Thanks for clairifiying this for me .

NightProwler

10-17-2006, 11:00 PM

i love rolling spliffs

Goodtimeshigh

10-18-2006, 12:03 AM

Last night was my first Actual high. and the splif i shared with one of my friends was quite packed with baccy. i was expecting to cough, which i did, alot. but after the coughing i couldn't stop shaking, and i felt kinda nausious for about 20 minutes. after that it was a nice high. enjoying music more, feeling generally happier, etc.
being my first real time (both smoking and with Aunty H.C) was it an effect of the nicotine that made me shake or just some bad weed?

Goodtimeshigh

10-18-2006, 12:30 AM

Lol. i am!
it was pretty fun. gonna get together with some friends this coming saturday for a proper session. one of them has a pipe. so i think i'll take some hits off that. get some of the taste without the baccy.

blaze one

10-18-2006, 05:52 AM

pure buds are the only way to go .

bud breath420

10-18-2006, 06:38 AM

I like to put a thin bottom layer of baccy in the bottom of my joint papers and then weed ove the top.. it makes it easier to roll.. plus its like having a ciggerete but better...

Reefer Rogue

10-18-2006, 06:06 PM

Tobacco - Bad
Cannabis - Good

Natural Rx

10-18-2006, 07:11 PM

I'm an American. I'm also a pothead and a tobacco user.

I've always thought this was a ridiculous sounding concept and up until about 2 weeks ago I never smoked marijuana mixed with tobacco.

After hearing so much about "European style" joints, I decided to give one a shot.

I twisted up a fat boy, half Stinky Pinky - half Turkish Gold cigarette tobacco.
I have to admit, it's quite enjoyable if you're a tobacco user. The smoke was a bit more harsh, but it didn't seem to affect the taste of the pot at all.

and I didn't have to light a smoke directly after finishing off the roach! :thumbsup:

Buddahbear

10-18-2006, 07:47 PM

I then smoke as much, or as little of the joint as I feel like.

re-lighting joints taste like ass personally. I'd rather use tobacco than smoke ash.

whatever575

10-19-2006, 01:57 AM

I first started smokin-up I always had a joint with weed.. It's called "Clip" aka from a cig haha..

But if any of you listen to Classified you know how we rep it on the east coast :stoned:

"And we do mix our tabacco with weed, it's just the way we've always done it, shit is natural me" - Classified