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GREENvision
10-10-2006, 11:52 AM
hey all.
i went to go change the solution in my 4 gal. bubbler system and i find that the roots have grown completely around the airstone. it's stuck pretty bad.
any suggestions on how i release it?
also, do i need to transplant into a bigger bucket, 'cause it looks like it's starting to get a bit rootbound? plus i completely cracked the lid when i lifted it.
on the bright side, the plant is doing beutifully. She's already taller than me!
latewood
10-10-2006, 02:23 PM
You are OK...As long as you keep the roots submerged in solution.
don't worry about stones...that aleways happens in buckets...next time get a couple 4-5" stones and glue them with aquarium sealant to the botom of the bucket....peace
By the way...That is one "Hot" photo there! Let me know if I can help You in the future...
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GREENvision
10-10-2006, 03:40 PM
Thanks latewood. Always nice to hear:)
And I'm sure i'll need help, so I'll let you know.
JackdaWack
10-10-2006, 08:57 PM
It seems u have enough space with the roots, bigger bucket wont hurt but that thing is pretty big already how much more is it gonna grow?
GREENvision
10-11-2006, 12:45 AM
I have no idea. I wasn't planning on it getting this big. it's only day 17 into flowering, & it's grown 2 ft during that time, so i'm kinda wondering myself when it'll stop.
Zandor
10-11-2006, 12:58 AM
You can just disconect the ones that are in the roots and install new ones. After you are done you can get those back and use them again.
i had a similar issue today wen i changed my res. i have 3 plants in the same bucket and the roots have intertwined themselves and grown into the water pump and filter, around the airstone and around all piping lolll
is it ok to cut a few of the roots to get em out? i really had no choice
GREENvision
10-11-2006, 03:36 AM
i tugged on that airhose as hard as i could. doesn't want to disconnect. maybe i'll cut it, or just leave it in their. at least i know that the roots are getting a good supply of air. lol.
anyway, if you're still paying attention, any ideas on what to do about the lid. it's cracked almost in half. i'm not worried about the light getting through, but it's not holding under the weight of the plant and it keeps tipping over. the only thing keeping her upright at the moment is the closet door being closed.
JackdaWack
10-11-2006, 03:38 AM
if its rubbermaid just buy a new one i guess and u got an extra bottom or something maybe u can find a use for it.
latewood
10-11-2006, 05:30 AM
lots of duct tape. lol...you have to shore it up, best you can...
be careful with those roots.
OmegaVermelho
10-11-2006, 06:00 AM
All advice given...let me just say in the words of Jimi Hendrix.....Foxyyy....FOxxyyyy....Foxxxyy Laaadyyyy...Peace Greenvision this post is acctually of great help cause i started a bubbler also and in 2 weeks the roots grew as if they were on steroids so i guess the prob ur having will happen to me soon...and now i know just what to do...
ronjohn420
10-11-2006, 06:49 AM
haha... wow
thats a root ball there!!!!!!!....lol
i have had that problem also....... but be aware of that stone clogging up.. thats what happend to me......
my plants leaves started to wilt on the tips and i thought it had a nute dyfencey but i lifted the bucket to check tds and ph i found that very very little air was getting out of the stone (not even enough to bubble)
what i did (which i would NOT advise you to do) is i disconnected my air line from the pump and hooked my 225 psi. compressor on it and blew 25 psi into it for about 5 minutes, and that fixed me up (so far)
and the plant seemed to enjoy all that air
anyways keep us updated.....
ps. i have to agree with latewood on that 3rd pic.... =)
GREENvision
10-11-2006, 10:28 AM
wow, how awesome to come home to all these compliments.
but yeah, i have no shortage on buckets or lids, there's just no way in hell i'm gonna fit those roots into the hole of a different lid anyway. thanks for the tip on the airstone & i put the duct tape on the lid.
GREENvision
10-11-2006, 10:58 AM
i just checked on the plant. she's reached the light. so i'm gonna have to remove the door and tie those branches down. it grew 2 1/2 ft. in these 2 1/2 weeks of flowering.
you'd think that with a plant growing so nicely there shouldn't be as many problems.:rasta:
Zandor
10-11-2006, 03:57 PM
Quick bushmaster now!!
johneg
10-11-2006, 04:07 PM
hi,leave the airstone running and get another!in future fine mesh or similiar at the bottom of bucket works.n u r fit!!
ronjohn420
10-11-2006, 04:24 PM
out of curiousity... what strain is that?????
and do you trim/prune anywhere at anytime?
later.... =)
GREENvision
10-12-2006, 12:38 AM
It's OG Kush. I haven't pruned, though I probably need to. I took 6 cuttings off of her a week before flowering.
ronjohn420
10-12-2006, 05:10 AM
cool cool.....
i do admire a woman who can grow a damn good bud plant...
if youre in the U.S and near north florida.. holla and we'll do a dro to dro taste test.... =)
[email protected]
www.myspace.com/ronclark151
happy growing !!!! =)
PS..... ive heard people bash others for talking about meeting, so before its said
"NO, IM NOT A DAMN COP, SO DONT BASH" meeting is like a 1 in a 100.000 chance anyways
Zandor
10-12-2006, 08:59 PM
cool cool.....
i do admire a woman who can grow a damn good bud plant...
if youre in the U.S and near north florida.. holla and we'll do a dro to dro taste test.... =)
[email protected]
www.myspace.com/ronclark151 (http://www.myspace.com/ronclark151)
happy growing !!!! =)
PS..... ive heard people bash others for talking about meeting, so before its said
"NO, IM NOT A DAMN COP, SO DONT BASH" meeting is like a 1 in a 100.000 chance anyways
Ah hell you just saw the sexy chick next to the plant and are hopping just like every other normal male. :thumbsup:
ROFLMAO
GREENvision
10-12-2006, 10:13 PM
hehe. it's nice you think i can grow a damn good bud plant, but i'm still waiting to make it to my first successful harvest. also, i live in the west coast.
ronjohn420
10-13-2006, 04:12 AM
Ah hell you just saw the sexy chick next to the plant and are hopping just like every other normal male. :thumbsup:
ROFLMAO
DAMN.... you're on to me Zandor:D
i would say thats good for a first time harvest, im on #2 myself.... :dance:
since ive smoked pure dried and cured sinsemilla from my own cultivation... i cant see why anyone would pay money for seedy overdried shawag weed
or any weed for that matter
its just so much more rewarding to sit down and smoke ... knowing that you made it from a little seed/clone
later folks
newtoitallgurrl
10-13-2006, 06:04 AM
Nice Plant Green, OG is the greatest!! here is my baby OG, not much longer and she will be ready :D
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=86298
latewood
10-13-2006, 03:06 PM
I noticed reply above...Do Not Prune...It is too late to prune without taking the chance of enough stress to hermie...tie it like you planned.
for you newbs following this thread...never prune after transition, and don't prune much at all, period. the only pruning I do is too clean up all the new foliage around the bottom before floering, so that air can circulate around the base of the plant...this helps to keep pests and mildew, etc. from thriving.
Peace, GV, baby, where did you get your TATS? lw
loser90
10-14-2006, 09:16 PM
Your roots are ok but you need a bigger container for it the roots require oxygen to grow. The roots being close to the airstone are good since they get oxygen quicker. I would get a bigger container and continue growing :)
fingers
10-14-2006, 10:00 PM
Not even thinking i did this same thing. By gently sliding a couple fingers i managed to get my stones loose and put those spherical style stones on. Seems a lot less prone to tangling.
Also, I've noticed but never used the new rubber coated stick type airstones. They're a few bucks more, but look great. Anyone use em or heard if they're any good?
Take care all,
Fingers
loser90
10-15-2006, 05:15 PM
I would use one of these
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3722&N=2004+113405
They improve the oxygen levels instead of having co2 buildups.
If you have a big container and need more oxygen for your roots you can take a sponge and a rubberband or hot glue. Hot glue it to the back of the airstone so it floats instead of being at the bottom.
And maybe put the nutes in the sponge so the arent all over this will increase the plants growth.
Depending on if the nutes are heavier than the water.
If they are then I would pour them in at the water line and turn up your air pump.
Look for ones that have less co2 buildup co2 will kill ur roots.
GREENvision
10-16-2006, 12:02 AM
thanks newtoitallgurrl. it's definitely 1 of my 2 favorite strains. you got some nice looking buds there by the way.
thanks for the tip about the pruning latewood. i already tied those branches down. i had to remove the closet door. so now i'm using a room devider wrapped in mylar and velcro'd to the sides of the closet. GETTO AS FUCK! but hey, as long as it does its job right? i'd post a pic but my bro has my camera.
my tatts are mostly done here in L.A at a friends shop. the rest was done in israel & holland.
Must go light my spliff. PEACE:rasta:
fingers
10-19-2006, 10:04 AM
I would use one of these
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3722&N=2004+113405
They improve the oxygen levels instead of having co2 buildups.
If you have a big container and need more oxygen for your roots you can take a sponge and a rubberband or hot glue. Hot glue it to the back of the airstone so it floats instead of being at the bottom.
And maybe put the nutes in the sponge so the arent all over this will increase the plants growth.
Depending on if the nutes are heavier than the water.
If they are then I would pour them in at the water line and turn up your air pump.
Look for ones that have less co2 buildup co2 will kill ur roots.
I dont know about the floating air stone thing, but that product you linked does look really good. I might have to hunt one down in the future.
As long as they're easy enough to get and not rediculously expensive, i'd go with that.Overall i think the rubbercoated air stones are a great low cost option. They dont disintegrate like traditional stones, and could bot tangle in roots due to being thin cylindrical in shape (tubes).
I still do like the look of that ceramic product though, I'll have to look into that one i think. :thumbsup:
Take care guys,
Fingers :dance:
xcrispi
10-23-2006, 03:07 PM
i use cheap bio bags for whisper brand fishtank filters and put my stones inside the bags n zippytie shut , i also do this w/ my pumps to prevent them from clogging up w/ roots .
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