Any Wiccans here?

[someuser]

I've been interested in Wicca for quite some time and finally decided to really start studying it... I'm not so much drawn to it for the spellcasting and whatnot but mostly because it is a earth-based religion that stresses a symbioses with nature. I also was drawn to the fact it is more 'open ended' in the way a coven or solitaire actually practices and performs rituals ect. Finally, I like the fact it doesnt recognize a pure evil (Satan) or hell (or 'heaven' for that matter). The more I learn about it the more I find myself drawn into it... It's hard to explain.


Anyhow, just wondering if there were any guy/girl stoner Wiccans here...

[MastaChronic]

i personally am not a wiccan, although i have studied some "black" majick i.e. necromancy, names of demons, how to conjur them etc. i do however know a wiccan, and he is cool as a mofo, his family also has ties to the masons, but i cant tell you his name, rules and whatnot

[Storm Crow]

yes! ;)

[someuser]

i personally am not a wiccan, although i have studied some "black" majick i.e. necromancy, names of demons, how to conjur them etc. i do however know a wiccan, and he is cool as a mofo, his family also has ties to the masons, but i cant tell you his name, rules and whatnot

Wiccans have nothing to do with dark magic or anything evil though bro. A true Wiccan at heart loves, reveres, and feel connected with all of nature. Magic is never used for harmful or evil purposes by a true Wiccan. "An it harms none, do as ye will" as all one's actions come back 3-fold.

[someuser]

yes! ;)

How long have you been practicing Storm Crow (if you dont mind me asking)?

[Storm Crow]

Kind of hard to answer that. I guess it started when I was in college (the first time around). I was taking both day and night classes, and by the time I got home on the bus, it would have been time to go back to school for the night class. So, I started reading my way through the school library (I've always been a speed reader). Religion was there among the first books and I sort of made my own way through the bookshelves to the Goddess. Read the Koran, the Tibetian Book of the Dead, Egyptian Book of the Dead, Drawing down the Moon and lots more, but Wicca just seemed to fit me best. I've always been a solitary- just me and the Goddess. I'm 59, now.

[mrdevious]

While I'm no expert on the religion (or philosophy perhapse?), it seems to have very good and enduring qualities. I think learning an appreciation for nature is good for anyones spiritual path. Even a christian or muslim could learn a great deal by understanding gods most beautiful creation, it doesn't matter who you are. can anyone tell me what their spiritual practices would be in relation to nature in particular?

[Abattoir Dream]

good for you for finding something to beleive in :) my sis was a wiccan, (dnt know if she still is) but she was telling me how the christians based their faith on wiccan religion, like christmas, thats to do with the birth of the sun or sumthing isnt it??? i dont know, all i know is christians stole alot from wiccans, and got all the credit for it.....

[roly mo]

I've been interested in Wicca for quite some time and finally decided to really start studying it... I'm not so much drawn to it for the spellcasting and whatnot but mostly because it is a earth-based religion that stresses a symbioses with nature. I also was drawn to the fact it is more 'open ended' in the way a coven or solitaire actually practices and performs rituals ect. Finally, I like the fact it doesnt recognize a pure evil (Satan) or hell (or 'heaven' for that matter). The more I learn about it the more I find myself drawn into it... It's hard to explain.


Anyhow, just wondering if there were any guy/girl stoner Wiccans here...

Hi

Im in the UK and Im a Pagan with wiccan beliefs, feel free to get in touch.

Im going to a couple of Pagan festivals over the next 2 weeks, if you would like email me and I can get hold of info regarding magazines etc for you to get you on the right path from the start.

It is quite correct that Pagans/Wiccans have nothing to do with black magick (correct spelling). It is just sad that at this time of year Halloween or Samhain as we witches refer to it, the dark (black magick) side gets brought up time after time in the media and the white witches get bad press.

I often say this and it holds quite true, if Greenpeace had a religous faith it would be Paganism/Wiccan.

I know I am going to get some back lash from this but yes I am a white witch and everything I do in my everyday life is based around my beliefs. People are often quite surprised to be informed i am a practising white witch. I do not dress up in robes everyday and I dont eat frogs or toads or bite heads of bats.

Witchcraft has come a long way since many thousands were persecuted men included, simply because they found plants in the forest that were found to help certain illness. Like I said in a previous post Aspirin comes from the bark of a certain tree and is taken each day by millions for a variety of illnesses.

These discoveries by local wise ones were seen as working with the devil and that the devil cured the person in return for their soul or some other silly excuse, then they were stoned and burnt at the stake for having done such a good deed.

Ignorance played a very major role back then, just think about how many plants or indeed anything this planet has given us is currently used by us the human race?

I use a variety of herbs including ordinary cooking herbs and other natural bits and pieces in my spells. One of my newest spells is to try and get the government to see our herb in a much wider picture of things, to try and get them to see how beneficial to us all this herb can be. My spell is basically asking them to see sense about the whole concept with unbiased opinions or pressure from other countries including Mr Bushy.

If anyone would like to ask any questions I would be more than happy to answer you if I can, dont worry you wont be turned into a toad unless you choose to become one;)

As Im new to all this I wonder how things would turn out if I was arrested or summit silly, as herbs are part of my religion (human rights spring to mind), the same herbs that this planet gave us to harvest for the benefit of all.


"An it harm none, do what you will"


"Merry meet, merry part and merry meet again"


So mote it be

Mo = short for Maureen xx:)

Pagan name = Rowanmist

[someuser]

Storm Crow,

Sounds like you are very well read in the subject of theology! In the books that you have read on Wicca, are there any in particular that you would specifically be inclined to recommend? Right now I've been looking over some of Scott Cunningham's works.


mrdevious,

Not sure what you mean when you ask:

'can anyone tell me what their spiritual practices would be in relation to nature in particular?'

Can you elaborate?


Abattoir Dream,

From what I've been reading both Christmas and Easter are based on Pagan holidays: Sabbats (there may be others as well).

December 21 (give or take a few days) is an actual astrological event on earth. On certain days of the year the days are longer then the nights (or vice versa); These are considered winter/summer solstice. Pagans throughout time have celebrated this day as a way of honoring the natural cycle of the earth.

From what I read (not sure if it is true or not) Christianity moved Christ's birth from the spring to December as a way of converting more Pagans to Christianity. In Wicca December 21 is know as Yule or the day the God is reborn of the Goddess (Halloween is know as Samhain [pronounced sah-VEEN] in which the God dies and the Goddess weeps his loss) .

Easter, is the spring equinox (when day and night are of equal length). Ancient Egyptians and Persians traditionally celebrated Easter with bunnys and eggs as a way to celebrate fertility and renewed life long before Easter became a Christian holiday. In Wicca the spring equinox is known as Ostara (pronounced oh-STAR-ah).

[someuser]

Roly mo (Rowanmist),

I dont think there is anything such thing as a black witch 'Wiccan' correct? While I understand some Pagans do practice 'black magick' Wiccans abide to the oath 'An it hurt none, do as ye will' and in the karma concept of whatever one does (positive or negative) it will come back 3-fold. Or is that just naive and do some 'bonifided' Wiccans practice 'dark magick'?

I think a lot of enviromental and animal right's groups would consist of a healthy memberbase of Wiccans and other earth based Pagans. I'm a contributing member to PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and I wonder how many 'witches' are in that little group ;)


Anyhow I would be quite interested in any info/insight you would like to share with me about Wicca. Recommended books, magazines, personal insight of your experiences, and anything thing else you might feel comfortable sharing. To get my email address take my screen name someuser and add @aol.com

[mrdevious]

Hi someuser. What I meant to ask, is what traditions and practices that involve nature are incorporated into Wicca. Like ceremonies, spiritual use of entheogens, communication with nature, animal worship, vegetarianism/veganism, sacramental offerings, nature-based dieties... all those types of things. Thanks for responding :)

[roly mo]

Hi to all

I will dig out all my books and post the titles, author and ISBN numbers. I will try and add a small comment on each and every book.

Like I said before I am going to a few events over the coming weeks and I will obtain details of any mags and where to get them.

I will also sort through my favourite websites for Pagan/Wiccan info which (pardon the pun) I have found helpful and will list the websites.

Im glad I havent been stoned (er wrong words) for saying Im a practising witch and I thank you all for your interesting comments.

Blessed be

Mo = short for Maureen

[MastaChronic]

im not tryin to make a connection to wiccans and "evil" majick, i wouldnt really consider it evil, more like destructive, since there is evil is just a term applied to things. but im just sayin, wiccans and any kind of majick are kind of in the same category, only reason i mentioned it

[Babr]

"When one defines oneself as Pagan, it means she or he follows an earth or nature religion, one that sees the divine manifest in all creation. The cycles of nature are our holy days, the earth is our temple, its plants and creatures our partners and teachers. We worship a deity that is both male and female, a mother Goddess and father God, who together created all that is, was, or will be. We respect life, cherish the free will of sentient beings, and accept the sacredness of all creation." Edain McCoy

Basically and simplistically that sums up our belief system.

My own journey began when I first questioned my spiritual beliefs and path as I was sitting in church, listening to a Sunday sermon. I had searched everywhere for the answers. What was this all about, what was missing from my belief system. Why was I so empty and so miserable? For years I had sat there every Sunday in a room listening to a speach from a man, a mortal man, listening to words that made no sense to me. I repeated words that were memorized, not from the heart, mind you, but from years of sitting and listening to the litany over and over again, and it made no sense to me. It left me empty and angry. So I left the church.

As I grew older, I lost all of my faith. It happened in small bits and pieces. I saw a world filled with hate, man against man, violence, crime, pollution. Destruction. And I grew bitter at a God that seemed never to be listening to me, after I had spent years listening to him, and I was getting resentful. My spiritual life lost meaning.

I lost a child, when I was much older. a very much wanted child, and the words of comfort that were handed to me were, "It's God's will, it's what he wanted." What had I done that was so bad that he would do this to me? Well that basically turned me against all I had ever known. This way of being, that I'm supposed to follow, made no sense to me. So I shut down spiritually.

Then one day I happened to read a poem it was on a poster, Called "The Beginning" by Pentad, I had found it, or it had found me :)

"When the moon is white against the winter sky...
and the Lady's face shines down, you feel no shame.

The sins are gone . . . they were never really there.

You'll hear the voice that has always called your name.
You'll dance, you'll sing, to a song that always been...

But you'll never ever, ever be the same."

"No shame"! What? The "sins" were never really there. I had done nothing bad in my life to deserve the repurcussions of an angry God.

At last, I recognized and could release what I had felt and known and lived
in conflict with all my life, the source of my incredible emptiness. My mind had never fully realized what my heart had always known, it had never occurred to me that a person could actually live outside of, beyond, above, the dogma of Christianity . . . that we *are* free, and good, and we don't need the Christ figure or the Christian God to make us so, we never did, and never will.

It was like an explosion in slow motion, the old conditioning went, finally, to the winds. I felt it, as all that old conditioning just lifted.

For me, those lines I read surpassed everything I had experienced thus far, they completely removed the last of my pain, my emptiness substituting in its place, a happiness and a thing called "peace" which I had *not* ever felt before, not as a child, not as a teenager, not as a woman.

So I read, and learned and finally found others like myself. Today, I still look, seek, learn and grow. And I have never once regretted the path I started the day I saw those words, they were what was in my mind and in my heart all along. So I read more on the way of Wicca, and I grew and I realized that I was finally, and blessedly, home.

[JMRinFLA]

I have been a Pagan for most of my adult life. Although raised a Catholic I never really believed in a supreme being and the whole good vs. evil scenario it espoused was simply too contrived to be real. I studied Gardnerian Wicca briefly and wanted to join a coven because I valued the sense of community it gave me and I found joy in being with those who shared my beliefs. Unfortunately, there is, among many Wiccans, a distaste for our favorite weed and this led me to decide against joining.

[Euphoric]

MY FAVORITE WICCA LINK

http://www.ladyoftheearth.com/

[Cage]

I have a few books on witchcraft, but only one on a wiccan tradition. It's by Raymond Buckland. He started the seax-wiccan tradition, but I can't say I liked the book much, so I won't even mention the title, haha!

A good book on witchcraft is "Witchcraft Theory and Pratice" by: Ly De Angeles. I'd recomend this book to anyone interested in witchcraft. (Great book!)

If it's the magic/k that intrigues you, then I'd recomend anything by Franz Bardon, but He's more into hermetics...Intersting stuff, though. I paid over $50.00 for his "Initiation into Hermetics" several years ago, and found you must be much more dedicated then I was. ;)

Then there's a guy named Israel Regardie of the 'Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn'. He was Alliester Crowleys secretary for many years, I think? Again, good stuff, only quite a bit more complicated than the other stuff I read.

I think wicca is a great path, though, as I dig nature, but if you want magic/k then check out the authors I suggested.

On a side note, I'm not into magic/k, I had a fleeting curiosity when younger, and simply devoured a few books on the subject. I have more, but the one's I mentioned were the ones I liked best.

Much Love,

Oh, I almost forgot...Quabalah is quite essential if you want to practice magic/k. A good book on it would be: "Quabalah A Magical Primer" by: John Bonner. It will get you started on a long and complicated road.

:thumbsup:

[RyanTheCaveman]

Ah yes i'm a wiccan.
good to know theres others on this site ;)

[BabySnookums]

yep

[JunkYard]

You guys are all going to Hell!

j/k I Love you all, haha! :D

Any of you ever post at www.mysticwicks.com ? Great place, and great people over there...


Love,

[RyanTheCaveman]

Thats cool. you should go to witchforum.net/forum/index.php
its a great place.

[CheebaMan]

i noticed when i started smokin weed i started gettin into da devil

go fig

[RyanTheCaveman]

...whats the devil got to do with wicca?

[Matt the Funk]

As soon as I read this I thought of Scooby doo.

[Inferius]

As soon as I read this I thought of Scooby doo.

I thought of teenage goth girls who direly want attention due to a missing father.

And oreos.

[RyanTheCaveman]

^ yeh...
Most wiccans i know are not goth.
actually i dont know any goth wiccans.
but i do know a satanic guy...hes weird.an asshole but still nice. hmm..
anyways..oreos...mmm and milk! :D

[smoking habit]

I thought of how fun it is to punch an over-dramatic annoying gothic faggot in the stomach.

but back on topic, GO WICCANSS!! im not.

[RyanTheCaveman]

I HATE emos.
with passion =D

[someuser]

Oh wow, I forgot all about this thread!

[Villui]

i like marijuana

lol and im wiccan

[Gatekeeper777]

I am wiccan, so is my wife, we are both stoners... soulmates? you betcha. now how lucky can i get! ;)

[RyanTheCaveman]

I am wiccan, so is my wife, we are both stoners... soulmates? you betcha. now how lucky can i get! ;)

haha that nice.
have you been to withforum.net? its a great place.

[Gatekeeper777]

We have a folder in IE that has an assload of wiccan bookmarks in it.

[pm_BigBud]

wow i'm amazed theres a lot on here. well I am too.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Unfortunately, there is, among many Wiccans, a distaste for our favorite weed and this led me to decide against joining.
I've noticed this too. I attribute it in part to the fact that there seem to be a lot of recovered alcoholics/addicts in the pagan movement. Also, some people feel magic and ritual power is lessened rather than enhanced if the mind is altered. I personally find nothing wrong with having wine, mead, beer or cannabis during ritual workings, as long as nobody is getting blitzed. Entheogens and mild alcoholic beverages can help a person relax and tune in a bit easier sometimes.

[Gatekeeper777]

I find nothing wrong with it either, i think it is because under the influance of anything can make you more suggestable to the darker side.

[RyanTheCaveman]

Noooooo! The dark side!

Hehe got the idea from that one thread :D.

but i see nothing wrong with cannabis use in wicca. I dont personally use it during rituals/spells etc. but i certaintly enjoy it. for recreational use :D

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

"When one defines oneself as Pagan, it means she or he follows an earth or nature religion, one that sees the divine manifest in all creation. The cycles of nature are our holy days, the earth is our temple, its plants and creatures our partners and teachers. We worship a deity that is both male and female, a mother Goddess and father God, who together created all that is, was, or will be. We respect life, cherish the free will of sentient beings, and accept the sacredness of all creation." Edain McCoy

Basically and simplistically that sums up our belief system.

My own journey began when I first questioned my spiritual beliefs and path as I was sitting in church, listening to a Sunday sermon. I had searched everywhere for the answers. What was this all about, what was missing from my belief system. Why was I so empty and so miserable? For years I had sat there every Sunday in a room listening to a speach from a man, a mortal man, listening to words that made no sense to me. I repeated words that were memorized, not from the heart, mind you, but from years of sitting and listening to the litany over and over again, and it made no sense to me. It left me empty and angry. So I left the church.

As I grew older, I lost all of my faith. It happened in small bits and pieces. I saw a world filled with hate, man against man, violence, crime, pollution. Destruction. And I grew bitter at a God that seemed never to be listening to me, after I had spent years listening to him, and I was getting resentful. My spiritual life lost meaning.

I lost a child, when I was much older. a very much wanted child, and the words of comfort that were handed to me were, "It's God's will, it's what he wanted." What had I done that was so bad that he would do this to me? Well that basically turned me against all I had ever known. This way of being, that I'm supposed to follow, made no sense to me. So I shut down spiritually.

Then one day I happened to read a poem it was on a poster, Called "The Beginning" by Pentad, I had found it, or it had found me :)

"When the moon is white against the winter sky...
and the Lady's face shines down, you feel no shame.

The sins are gone . . . they were never really there.

You'll hear the voice that has always called your name.
You'll dance, you'll sing, to a song that always been...

But you'll never ever, ever be the same."

"No shame"! What? The "sins" were never really there. I had done nothing bad in my life to deserve the repurcussions of an angry God.

At last, I recognized and could release what I had felt and known and lived
in conflict with all my life, the source of my incredible emptiness. My mind had never fully realized what my heart had always known, it had never occurred to me that a person could actually live outside of, beyond, above, the dogma of Christianity . . . that we *are* free, and good, and we don't need the Christ figure or the Christian God to make us so, we never did, and never will.

It was like an explosion in slow motion, the old conditioning went, finally, to the winds. I felt it, as all that old conditioning just lifted.

For me, those lines I read surpassed everything I had experienced thus far, they completely removed the last of my pain, my emptiness substituting in its place, a happiness and a thing called "peace" which I had *not* ever felt before, not as a child, not as a teenager, not as a woman.

So I read, and learned and finally found others like myself. Today, I still look, seek, learn and grow. And I have never once regretted the path I started the day I saw those words, they were what was in my mind and in my heart all along. So I read more on the way of Wicca, and I grew and I realized that I was finally, and blessedly, home.

I could have written this myself.;) You've perfectly captured the feeling of homecoming.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I find nothing wrong with it either, i think it is because under the influance of anything can make you more suggestable to the darker side.
Right. So can being too tired, hungry, stressed, or distracted. That's why it's important to ground and center before ritual or workings. I always try to be well rested and well fed if I am going to be raising any energy.:)