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Weed. I call it harmless. Alot of people do. To me it IS harmless.
Well, we all know its one of the safest drugs... infact, it IS the safest drug.
Well, now it just so happens i have found out it is safer than alot of things we EAT in everyday life.
Who likes potatoes?
If you eat 10+ raw potatoes you can have a toxic reaction, but if you eat 10+ kilos of weed you wont.
Meaning, weed is safer than a potato, and probably many other things we comsume on a regular basis.
some of you may have already known about the potato thing, but i didnt and thought it proves our point beyond recognition.
Weed is a harmless plant, put here to be smoked the fuck up.
jamstigator
10-08-2006, 04:11 PM
You might not have a TOXIC reaction to eating 22 pounds of pot, but it'd probably kill you nevertheless. Unless you're that Japanese competitive eating dude, and I doubt he'd survive it either. But your point is valid. ;)
something
10-08-2006, 04:11 PM
i understand you're saying it's harmless, understandable, but that example isn't the best. if you drink too much water you can die, is weed safer than water because by weight you could consume more cannabis than water and live? of course not
Weed IS safer than water. Weed is safer than many things. I mean, eating it aint a great example, because you can only eat so much... then you'd just puke.
:D
thcbongman
10-08-2006, 04:17 PM
What makes weed safe is the implemented safeguards
If you smoke your ass off, you eventually get tired and go to sleep, or you get paranoid and say you had enough for now, or you'll be too stoned to not care anymore.
Absolutely nothing toxic about weed.
greenbeard
10-08-2006, 04:24 PM
You might not have a TOXIC reaction to eating 22 pounds of pot, but it'd probably kill you nevertheless. Unless you're that Japanese competitive eating dude, and I doubt he'd survive it either
Bud is not going to kill you----Buddha ate hemp for 6 years and didn't die----he became a leading thinker with world renown
greenbeard
something
10-08-2006, 04:27 PM
weed is not for everyone, i smoke ridiculous amounts of weed and it's not gonna harm me, i'd say cannabis is harmless, but because it can harm some people, not healthy individuals that is, it's not safter than water
How can it harm them though?
something
10-08-2006, 04:34 PM
people with psychotic disorders that smoke cannabis can be harmed badly, or people with undiagnosed mental conditions, altering your state of consciousness...however mild it may be, it's not good for everyone
True, another thing i read about it. People with underlying mental disorders can aggrivate them by smoking weed, but at the same time the study found that people who were fine mentally had no increased risk of getting any mental disorder, proving that weed cannot be the cause of mental disorders.
something
10-08-2006, 04:46 PM
exactly, weed doesn't cause any of this, but consuming cannabis can be an experience that brings out a condition they already have or are prone to, and it's not clear if avoiding cannabis would have stopped them from developing the condition, just speeding it up i guess, there's not a lot of research into it though.
all i'm saying is it seems silly to compare weed to potatoes and water because they are completely harmless, you have to be completely retarded to OD on potatoes ya know? and you're not going to OD on weed either, even if you are completely retarded. but there are risks that moderate use of cannabis pose to unhealthy individuals that just don't exist with potatoes or water. i don't like to say cannabis is completely harmless especially because a lot of prohibitionist types won't even try to understand that and brush you off as stupid, even though it's a valid point. it is one of the safest activities you could do though, i saw a government anti drug commercial that even confirmed this, their message was that you'll miss life sitting on the couch, he didn't try heroin or do this or kill somebody or whatnot, he just sat on the couch and didn't do much of anything, good reason to make crimminals out of people, ya know, damn you're missing out on living life to the edge man, get in jail!
birdgirl73
10-08-2006, 04:50 PM
I think people do a great disservice to others by perpetuating the myth that weed is 100% safe. I know that's what everyone wishes. It's what everyone hopes. But the truth is we don't know that for sure. There's not been enough testing. There are lots of very hopeful indicators about it--at least in lab studies on rats and in the very limited studies that have been done on people. But there are also unsafe aspects, too. Smoked weed aggravates pumonary irritation and increases the risk for bronchitis and infection. It increases people's risk of heart attacks by five times within the first hour of smoking it. It can impair memory in some people and put others at risk of psychiatric trouble. It can provoke anxiety attacks. The list goes on.
Call me a party pooper if you want to. But I think I'm simply a level-headed realist. Just as with any other natural substance, from carrots to water to coca leaves, there's both good and bad potential associated with weed. Fortunately, there seems to be more good than bad. But it's still important to be clear about both when covering the facts about weed.
Well maybe there is one or 2 retards out there who like to eat 10 raw potato's, not something a mentally stable person would do though, true.
Point is that smoking weed is safer than some things we come into contact with on a daily basis.
something
10-08-2006, 04:54 PM
damn straight
Also smoking weed can lower body temps by up to 2 degree's...
I never knew that either, its on todays dailyfactoid.
Oneironaut
10-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Weed is safer than caffeine. Thousands of people die of caffeine overdoses every year.
4gan2ja0
10-08-2006, 05:21 PM
and weed has never been the only cause of death, and it has not been proven that smoking weed alone can give you lung cancer:thumbsup:
BobBong
10-08-2006, 05:26 PM
"If you eat 10+ raw potatoes you can have a toxic reaction, but if you eat 10+ kilos of weed you wont."
Your argument is unrealistic
When's the last time you heard about someone eating themselves to death with potatoes?
When's the last time you heard someone eating themselves to death with cannabis?
When's the last time you ate 3lbs or 10 large potatoes???
...
Eating that much cannabis would be physically impossible..and this is why your argument isn't taken serious. Even then it's Solanine that is the toxic element not the potatoe itself. It ranges from quality and grow (like cannabis haha) and is more present in the "green" potato.
Potatoes contain glycoalkaloids, toxic compounds, of which the most prevalent are solanine and chaconine. Cooking at high temperatures (over 170 °C or 340 °F) partly destroys these. The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes suffices to produce toxic effects in humans. Glycoalkaloids occur in the greatest concentrations just underneath the skin of the tuber, and they increase with age and exposure to light. Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps and in severe cases coma and death; however, poisoning from potatoes occurs very rarely. Light exposure also causes greening, thus giving a visual clue as to areas of the tuber that may have become more toxic; however, this does not provide a definitive guide, as greening and glycoalkaloid accumulation can occur independently of each other. Some varieties of potato contain greater glycoalkaloid concentrations than others; breeders developing new varieties test for this, and sometimes have to discard an otherwise promising cultivar.
Breeders try to keep solanine levels below 0.2 mg/g (200 ppmw). However, when even these commercial varieties turn green, they can approach concentrations of solanine of 1 mg/g (1000 ppmw). Some studies suggest that 200 mg of solanine can constitute a dangerous dose. This dose would require eating 1 average-sized spoiled potato or 4 to 9 good potatoes (over 3 pounds or 1.4 kg) at one time. The National Toxicology Program suggests that the average American consumes 12.5 mg/person/day of solanine from potatoes. Dr. Douglas L. Holt, the State Extension Specialist for Food Safety at the University of Missouri - Columbia, notes that no reported cases of potato-source solanine poisoning have occurred in the U.S. in the last 50 years and most cases involved eating green potatoes or drinking potato-leaf tea.
The point is you need to make more realistic arguments if you plan to be taken seriously.
Just my opinion and constructive critisism. I don't dissagree with you, i'm just saying the basis for your argument is silly.
Bob:thumbsup:
I read it on a site, dunno which, But hey, i dont give a fuck.
The whole POINT was to show that cannabis is safer than many things we come into contact with on a daily basis.
BobBong
10-08-2006, 05:46 PM
I read it on a site, dunno which, But hey, i dont give a fuck.
The whole POINT was to show that cannabis is safer than many things we come into contact with on a daily basis.
Not potatoes...
How much you want to bet that you would get sick eating cannabis before you would if you were eating potatoes.
Forget it, im not gunner bother with you man, your just annoying me now.
BobBong
10-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Forget it, im not gunner bother with you man, your just annoying me now.
it shouldn't man, don't get annoyed at words...especially when they're not intended to annoy. I'm simply stating the opposite side to your argument. Don't give it out if you can't take it man..
MacWQ33
10-08-2006, 06:16 PM
I'll tell ya this though, weed is definitely safer than fast food...I'm sure we can all agree on that! And healthier. Who knows what the fuck is in that shit.
another thing think of how legally perscribed medicines that arent abused by people, people take them as the doctor recommends and sometimes they get things like cancer or organ problems or death from them. but they will cure ya and weed is really a killer
BongSmokityDuo
10-08-2006, 08:47 PM
i could eat more weed than potatoes
jamstigator
10-08-2006, 10:53 PM
I don't think it's perfectly harmless; few things are. And Birdgirl is right, that we need to do a LOT more research before we know all the pros and cons. But so far, the positives seem like they balance out the negatives pretty well, and the positives may even outweigh the negatives. If it's proven through research that cannabis does destroy some brain cells and harm memory, but at the same time it helps prevent some cancers and Alzheimer's and who knows what else...well, I am willing to give up a little memory in order to minimize the chances of losing most of my entire brain to Alzheimer's. The sad thing is that making that choice is illegal.
An irony occurred to me yesterday. Remember Nancy Reagan and her "Just Say No" campaign when her husband was president? What if HE had toked up consistently during his life? He might very well still be alive! I wonder if she thinks about that now -- that in a roundabout way she may very well have been campaigning to hasten the death of her husband.
The positives DO outwiegh the negatives at the presant time.
The negatives are mainly all to do with smoking anyway.
Maggz
10-08-2006, 11:15 PM
THC can not kill you..you can NOT overdose on it..trust me man wikipedia it.
We already know.... Your a bit late...
I think everyone on this site knows it.
theortically u can OD... but its physically impossible.... so ya...
im temped to eat 10 potatos... jsut to see
Yeah, you'd have to smoke 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to get a lethal responce, and this isnt definate lol. But its impossible, you'd simply die from oxygen deprevation before the lethal dose was anywhere near reached.
altho i wonder if u could disolve enof into alcohol and have almost 100% potentcy then inject that... but i bet ur blood would be too diluted anyway...
BobBong
10-09-2006, 03:24 PM
Yeah, you'd have to smoke 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to get a lethal responce, and this isnt definate lol. But its impossible, you'd simply die from oxygen deprevation before the lethal dose was anywhere near reached.
Even then you'd more than likely suffocate first... that's basically what is needed to die directly from pot.
Thats what i said lol
"But its impossible, you'd simply die from oxygen deprevation before the lethal dose was anywhere near reached."
How much you been smoking Bob? rofl.
Sorry for yesterday, are we cool again
Reefer Rogue
10-09-2006, 05:27 PM
Bud is not going to kill you----Buddha ate hemp for 6 years and didn't die----he became a leading thinker with world renown
greenbeard
Good point, thank you my friend for sharing knowledge that i was unaware of. Your avatar is also pleasing to the eye.
Lip, my good man, I, like you, know it is harmless. This is just another brilliant picece of text that is now in the archives of the internet. Weed is safer then a potatoe :D REJOICE
crudemood
10-09-2006, 06:20 PM
this is such the lip thread.
weed is really safe, its a plant.. the same thing as smoking tabacco.
except whoever made tabacco decided to put all those killer chemicals in it. argh.
God... And the people who use all these chems to make it grow faster/ kill us quicker lol.
Weed and hemp is the most usefull plant in this universe, and its right here on our doorstep.
:D
Zoosh
10-09-2006, 06:31 PM
Did you know that one acre of hemp can produce the same amount of paper than 4 acres of trees ?
Thats a fact my fair people.
Indeed it is and it only takes 120 days from seed to harvest, unlike tree's which take many many years.
Also hemp paper is better quality.
B u M b L ee K y
10-09-2006, 06:48 PM
Weed should be legal. That's all I wanna throw in.
There no ligitimit reasoning behind it being illegal. Infact, it is illegal for the government to illegalise it. Damnit.
You cant just go round banning plants.. That no differnt from banning water.
[Is that another bad comparison]
The point im trying to get across, is it rains. You can just ban water, cos you can ban rain. It's natural, and you cant ban a plant growing. It's natural.
thebeancounter41
10-09-2006, 06:56 PM
people with psychotic disorders that smoke cannabis can be harmed badly, or people with undiagnosed mental conditions, altering your state of consciousness...however mild it may be, it's not good for everyone
The weed doesn't harm them though,they harm THEMSELVES due to their OTHER mental conditions NOT due to consumption of weed.Weed is practically HARMLESS to ANY HEALTHY normal adult.A medical journal report actually showed that people who smoke nothing but weed(no cigs) have a DECREASED chance of contracting lung cancer.Not only does it not CAUSE cancer, but it actually HELPS prevent you from getting it in the first place.
B u M b L ee K y
10-09-2006, 06:58 PM
The weed doesn't harm them though,they harm THEMSELVES due to their OTHER mental conditions NOT due to consumption of weed.Weed is practically HARMLESS to ANY HEALTHY normal adult.A medical journal report actually showed that people who smoke nothing but weed(no cigs) have a DECREASED chance of contracting lung cancer.Not only does it not CAUSE cancer, but it actually HELPS prevent you from getting it in the first place.
Wow! Way to throw some spice into the mix...can't wait to see what comes of this.
thebeancounter41
10-09-2006, 06:58 PM
Did you know that one acre of hemp can produce the same amount of paper than 4 acres of trees ?
Thats a fact my fair people.
Did you also know that hemp is one of the best and fastest renewing sources of fuel oil?You can run a car off of hemp oil(modified diesil engine)You can also use it to lubricate your engine as well as for fuel.
Too damn right, and the endo-cannabinoids kill free radicals which is something to do with cancer/ skin cancer or something along those lines, i scanned a big report on it... didnt read the whole thing. If im wrong someone please correct me on the free-radical thingymajiggybobthang.
qdavid
10-09-2006, 07:01 PM
weed is really a killer
What? First: I want to apologize for horning in on a way cool thread, but I just couldn't let that pass. Second: THAT IS ABSOLUTE TOTAL BULLSHIT! Okay,...okay,....I'm calm now.
I saw that too, but i didnt say anything as i presumed it was a typo. Shul smokes a ton of weed, he couldnt have said that on purpose, or at least i hope not.
Im gunner go cry myself 2 stone lighter now. :(
Dutch Masta
10-09-2006, 07:31 PM
The government should sell cannabis seeds to citizens. This would eliminate the drug trade at least, reduce the amount of crime associated with the high costs and restricted availability of it, and the government would profit from too! Everyones happy.
Thats a REALLY good idea. Seriously, being perfectly honest i'd never have even though of sorting it all out in one big swoop like that.
Wesley Pipes
10-09-2006, 08:33 PM
Did you also know that hemp is one of the best and fastest renewing sources of fuel oil?You can run a car off of hemp oil(modified diesil engine)You can also use it to lubricate your engine as well as for fuel.
u can run a diesel car off chip fat oil (no engine modifications)...
Saw that on 5th Gear (UK car tv show) the other night
something
10-09-2006, 10:01 PM
dude thebeancounter41, if you read everything i said i made the exact same points you did there, are you just trying to be difficult? take me out of context?
iwantFUEGO
10-09-2006, 10:19 PM
heres a better example...
i can smoke 15 blunts... and then tear 15 gnarly tubes... and i wouldnt be anything except really blazed.
or i can take 15 tylenol... and then 15 advil... and i can then kiss this wonderful world goodbye.
PEACE ALL
orangeman
10-09-2006, 10:35 PM
I dont think cannabis enjoys it's dead relatives being cremated in our pipes and blunts with the smoke going into our lungs but still cannabis is less toxic I agree and I love it :).
I know the diesel engines can be run on chip fat oil, but does it decrease the performance?
Well, tonight, im going to put half and half in my Ford Escort 55 Van. It's a 1.8diesel, and i'll come back here and tell ya if it makes a differnce to the performance.
From what i can remember the bio-diesel is only like 5% chip fat.
Wesley Pipes
10-10-2006, 01:16 PM
I know the diesel engines can be run on chip fat oil, but does it decrease the performance?
Well, tonight, im going to put half and half in my Ford Escort 55 Van. It's a 1.8diesel, and i'll come back here and tell ya if it makes a differnce to the performance.
From what i can remember the bio-diesel is only like 5% chip fat.
apparently it didnt decrease the performance any... the presenter even said that diesel engines were originally made to run on vegetable oil or something like that... and to think we pay more tax than anything else for fuels which are toxic to the enviroment lol
I think it'd depend on what kinf of fuel injection it is. Although itshould work, in theory. If its hot diesel injection it'd work, and if its srpay injection i'd think it would work. But as for cold diesel injection im not so sure. Like i said, i'll give it a go tonight, my fuel tank will be almost emty by the time i get home. This escort isnt very economical on fuel anymore lol
Weed. I call it harmless. Alot of people do. To me it IS harmless.
Well, we all know its one of the safest drugs... infact, it IS the safest drug.
Well, now it just so happens i have found out it is safer than alot of things we EAT in everyday life.
Who likes potatoes?
If you eat 10+ raw potatoes you can have a toxic reaction, but if you eat 10+ kilos of weed you wont.
Meaning, weed is safer than a potato, and probably many other things we comsume on a regular basis.
some of you may have already known about the potato thing, but i didnt and thought it proves our point beyond recognition.
Weed is a harmless plant, put here to be smoked the fuck up.
Weed messes with your memory which in turns is detrimental to your intelligence. A potato won't make you stupid.
No, its not. YOU need to do some reading on it. It doesnt effect any part of the brain that is used for learning, so it DOESNT make you stupid. But it can give you short term memory loss.
That doesnt make you stupid, and most people dont actually suffer from short term memory loss.
buddymyfriend
10-10-2006, 03:29 PM
No, its not. YOU need to do some reading on it. It doesnt effect any part of the brain that is used for learning, so it DOESNT make you stupid. But it can give you short term memory loss.
That doesnt make you stupid, and most people dont actually suffer from short term memory loss.
You need mj to help you store information. It's like when you learn something new, something old must be erased to store this new memory. When you smoke mj, it helps produce a chemical that helps create new space in your brain. This means that a stoner has the potential to store more info, and generally have more space in their brain to hold all that vital knowledge out there. I have a link somewhere for this, that was just of the top of my head, i'll have a look out for it as the doc explains it better than i just tried to!
Peace
Buddy
No, its not. YOU need to do some reading on it. It doesnt effect any part of the brain that is used for learning, so it DOESNT make you stupid. But it can give you short term memory loss.
That doesnt make you stupid, and most people dont actually suffer from short term memory loss.
Just because you take your short-term memory (which functions IN YOUR BRAIN) for granted does not mean that people don't suffer from the loss of it. Do you have any idea how much information is stored in your short-term memory?? If you had short-term memory loss, you'd forget to meet with your dealer in the desired place. That'd probably do you a lot of suffering.
Do some research.
Edit: Also be sure to check the credibility of your research. A five year-old can put some bullshit on a website, snaz it up a little bit and viola! He has a website for fools to become confabulated from his word.
You need mj to help you store information. It's like when you learn something new, something old must be erased to store this new memory. When you smoke mj, it helps produce a chemical that helps create new space in your brain. This means that a stoner has the potential to store more info, and generally have more space in their brain to hold all that vital knowledge out there. I have a link somewhere for this, that was just of the top of my head, i'll have a look out for it as the doc explains it better than i just tried to!
Peace
Buddy
I can deny that claim with simple good judment. All chemicals that marijuana gives your brain and body are naturally produced in your brain. Therefore, if you do NEED marijuana it's because you've smoked too much of it and your brain sees no need to automatically produce those chemicals for you. Same goes with people who take ecstacy. It feeds you dopamine and when your brain neglects to produce it even after you've stop taking ecstacy, you fall into a deep depression. Four-to-eight hours of fun could mean eight-to-eleven years of depression.
The only benefits of marijuana is that it can help cure cancer. You're taking advantage of the plant and most importantly yourselves. I'd feel handicapped if I felt I needed a plant to keep me on my p's and q's. That's just me.
Just because you take your short-term memory (which functions IN YOUR BRAIN) for granted does not mean that people don't suffer from the loss of it. Do you have any idea how much information is stored in your short-term memory?? If you had short-term memory loss, you'd forget to meet with your dealer in the desired place. That'd probably do you a lot of suffering.
Do some research.
Edit: Also be sure to check the credibility of your research. A five year-old can put some bullshit on a website, snaz it up a little bit and viola! He has a website for fools to become confabulated from his word.
If you read what i wrote i put people DO suffer from short term memory loss, but not the majority. Personally i dont.
Smoking weed DOES NOT make anyone stupid. If they want to become lazy, not work, not learn and spend all their time smoking weed its their own decision, not the weed.
The way you talk about it its as though you dont smoke it.
It's all really just simple psychology. Do some reading and you'll be amazed and what you learn. I had the bad habit at believing everything I read, too. And I'm still a little skeptical on a lot of the theoretical assertions in psychology.
To put it into my own words: I don't believe God would have put us on this planet without the essential means to live productive lives without the aid of plants, drugs, stimulants, etc. Now, don't get me wrong, I believe that even on marijuana that the human brain can still function effectively, complete minor and major tasks, so on and so forth. But I'll certainly never believe (again) that it's neccesary to be high in order for an individual to perform at full potential.
Right............................................. ........
Well im comming home now so i'll post here to let you know how the chip fat goes in my van... fingers crossed it wont fuck it up or i'll be up all night bleeding it lol
If you read what i wrote i put people DO suffer from short term memory loss, but not the majority. Personally i dont.
Smoking weed DOES NOT make anyone stupid. If they want to become lazy, not work, not learn and spend all their time smoking weed its their own decision, not the weed.
The way you talk about it its as though you dont smoke it.
Alright, perhaps my claim was has pompus as your own. The point still remains that you're putting this plant on a pedestal and glorifying it with all your might.
Being lazy and not working aren't stupid decisions. People are lazy and don't work even if they don't get high.
But in order to learn something you've got to memorize it first, or paraphrase what you're learning. Nonetheless, your memory plays an enourmous role in human intelligence. You made an accurate presumption, though. I don't smoke it, well not as often as I used to. I also don't diversify my world into categories such as stoners and non-stoners anymore.
buddymyfriend
10-10-2006, 03:59 PM
I can deny that claim with simple good judment. All chemicals that marijuana gives your brain and body are naturally produced in your brain. Therefore, if you do NEED marijuana it's because you've smoked too much of it and your brain sees no need to automatically produce those chemicals for you. Same goes with people who take ecstacy. It feeds you dopamine and when your brain neglects to produce it even after you've stop taking ecstacy, you fall into a deep depression. Four-to-eight hours of fun could mean eight-to-eleven years of depression.
The only benefits of marijuana is that it can help cure cancer. You're taking advantage of the plant and most importantly yourselves. I'd feel handicapped if I felt I needed a plant to keep me on my p's and q's. That's just me.
Very true Ganj we dont NEED it to help produce this chem, but why wouldnt you want to be able to store more information and have a greater memory? Thus bettering yourself?
Just my 2 cents
Peace
Buddy
Very true Ganj we dont NEED it to help produce this chem, but why wouldnt you want to be able to store more information and have a greater memory? Thus bettering yourself?
Just my 2 cents
Peace
Buddy
In other words, you're saying why wouldn't I want to be depedent on marijuana to produce these chemicals instead of allowing my brain to? It's the dependency issue, man! If marijuana were free and abundant alongside the roads and in our forests, I would have no disapproval for being dependent on the plant, but it costs! And it's not so cheap at that. It's illegal. People go to jail for having an eighth on them in Texas. There's too much baggage that goes along with getting high, but I hope that my point is clear to you that I would love to give my brain these chemicals at the cost of being dependent on it, while being high at the same time. I would love it...if it were free. But it can't be free. Either way, I'm losing something. I guess it just depends on what you value more? Your brain's natural ability or your enjoyment? And I might add that you can enjoy life without being high.
Also, I think you missed my point. It doesn't improve anything. Think of the plant as switching a particular region of your brain from auto-pilot into manual. Now in order for you to receive such chemicals you'd have to smoke marijuana, instead of having your brain do it on its own whenever something is learned, etc. And who knows? Marijuana may produce more of these chemicals than your brain does at a given time? There's only one thing, though. The memory of the human brain still remains the most mysterious process, so I suppose we won't know for sure if marijuana can enhance your ability to memorize information, thus improving your intelligence. Do some experimenting on your own. See what you discover.
buddymyfriend
10-10-2006, 04:37 PM
In other words, you're saying why wouldn't I want to be depedent on marijuana to produce these chemicals instead of allowing my brain to? It's the dependency issue, man! If marijuana were free and abundant alongside the roads and in our forests, I would have no disapproval for being dependent on the plant, but it costs! And it's not so cheap at that. It's illegal. People go to jail for having an eighth on them in Texas. There's too much baggage that goes along with getting high, but I hope that my point is clear to you that I would love to give my brain these chemicals at the cost of being dependent on it, while being high at the same time. I would love it...if it were free. But it can't be free. Either way, I'm losing something. I guess it just depends on what you value more? Your brain's natural ability or your enjoyment? And I might add that you can enjoy life without being high.
Also, I think you missed my point. It doesn't improve anything. Think of the plant as switching a particular region of your brain from auto-pilot into manual. Now in order for you to receive such chemicals you'd have to smoke marijuana, instead of having your brain do it on its own whenever something is learned, etc. And who knows? Marijuana may produce more of these chemicals than your brain does at a given time? There's only one thing, though. The memory of the human brain still remains the most mysterious process, so I suppose we won't know for sure if marijuana can enhance your ability to memorize information, thus improving your intelligence. Do some experimenting on your own. See what you discover.
Some pretty harsh laws you got the Ganj. If i were caught and have been on many a occasion im always told 'to be on my way' with herb in hand. But i will take your comments on board and have a lil experiment of my own!
Peace
Buddy
You've got to be organized, though. Make sure you know what it is you're testing. You might want to take the study of biological chemistry, too. Just because scientists have discovered the function of chemicals in our brains and bodies doesn't mean that you too shouldn't discover them for yourself.
And most of all; have fun with your experiment and not just on your couch. Haha!
Harsh laws, indeed. But I see policing our nation as a fruitless task. People should learn to protect and serve themselves.
thebeancounter41
10-10-2006, 04:57 PM
From what i can remember the bio-diesel is only like 5% chip fat.
Bio-diesel is 15% veggie oil.The fuel is called E-85 because it is 85% gas 15% oil.
A better alternative would be the modified engine that can burn straight veggie oil rather than the 85/15 mix.The bio diesel really doesn't help much to break our dependency on foreign oil since it STILL is mostly just gasoline.Bio diesel is no more of a fuel saving method than adding 10% ethanol to regular gas is.And most gas stations DO add up to 10% Ethanol to their gas.One chain here in Texas put 15% in their tanks and caused a crapload of engine damage to the customers cars.They had the royal SHIT sued out of them for that.Too much alcohol in a gas engine causes cylinder and valve damage.I know of 3 people who literally had to buy a new engine after tanking up with EZ-Mart's adulterated gas.
thebeancounter41
10-10-2006, 05:08 PM
Weed messes with your memory which in turns is detrimental to your intelligence. A potato won't make you stupid.
the ONLY memory that weed affects is SHORT TERM memory.The type of memory used for UNIMPORTANT things like where you laid your car keys.It has NO effect on long term memory which is where important things are stored (like societies laws and your responsibilties to your family)And also stuff like math,physics and grammar.Pot is NO detriment to one's intelligence.Though from your asinine comment,I would say perhaps you have been eating too many prescription pain killers or using inhalants,since YOUR intelligence is in question due to your making that stupid comment.
Alcohol will kill more brain cells than weed could ever hope to kill.And memory loss due to weed is TEMPORARY.Brain damage from alcohol abuse IS NOT.Weed merely STUNS your brain cells a bit,alcohol actually KILLS them.And brain cells DO NOT REGROW.Once you lose 'em, they are gone for good.
You're just talking. Come back when you actually have something to say, man.
However, I agree with you that it was an 'asinine comment'.
I suppose discussing the safety of marijuana is rather fruitless task anyway. Individuals will make their assertions based on personal experience or what they've read and learned about it. If you understand how it affects you and an indiviual then I suppose that is all that matters.
Ok, back to ME.
Im home now, gunner fill the van up with some chip fat and see what happens...
Wont be long, give me 15 mins
Hmmm, not as bad as i thought, but its a little crunchy. And it seems to be smoking on tickover and never did before. I run it on light diesel anyway [Marine diesel] cos i get it for free lol! :D
But it runs, i'll see how it copes on a long trip tomorow.
Wesley Pipes
10-10-2006, 06:20 PM
cool :)
I think its a good idea though, it probably crunchy cos half my chips were still in the oil rofl!
But yeah, if it was extra re-fined i rekon it'd be fine.
Wesley Pipes
10-10-2006, 06:26 PM
yeah it seemed to work fine on 5th Gear the other night, and that was a long journey they tested it on too.
Weed messes with your memory which in turns is detrimental to your intelligence. A potato won't make you stupid.
if u think weed will make you stupid, then what are u doing smoking it then?
yeah it seemed to work fine on 5th Gear the other night, and that was a long journey they tested it on too.
if u think weed will make you stupid, then what are u doing smoking it then?
Which then links on to the question, if you think it makes you stupid why are you on this site?
thebeancounter41
10-10-2006, 09:16 PM
You're just talking. Come back when you actually have something to say, man.
No I'm NOT just talking.I have been a daily smoker for over 30years and I still have ALL my wits about me and all of my native intelligence level (148IQ)If it is broke I can most likely fix it.If it needs to be built, I can most likely build it.I can outthink the avg citizen whiled I'm stoned or sober.They might remember where they laid their car keys faster than me,but that's where their mental advantage ENDS.
YOU were "just talking"More like spouting stupid party lines cause that's the kind of "reasoning" the DEA uses to keep weed illegal.I was speaking from both personal experience as well as FACTS gleaned from numerous private and govt studies that have been conducted on weed and the brain.
cannabis campbell
10-10-2006, 09:21 PM
Weed. I call it harmless. Alot of people do. To me it IS harmless.
Well, we all know its one of the safest drugs... infact, it IS the safest drug.
Well, now it just so happens i have found out it is safer than alot of things we EAT in everyday life.
Who likes potatoes?
If you eat 10+ raw potatoes you can have a toxic reaction, but if you eat 10+ kilos of weed you wont.
Meaning, weed is safer than a potato, and probably many other things we comsume on a regular basis.
some of you may have already known about the potato thing, but i didnt and thought it proves our point beyond recognition.
Weed is a harmless plant, put here to be smoked the fuck up.
I wouldnt like to eat that much lmaooo, or would i ..... :stoned:
cannabis campbell
10-10-2006, 09:25 PM
i cant be bothered reading through this whole threat atm im stoned and happy lol,
i dont really know much about the medical side of weed apart from it makes me feel good
but there must be some bad sides to it
I read in the newspaper once that if you smoke weed for over a year you start getting holes in your brain by the time i found out it was too late sooo why quit lol
Greenport
10-10-2006, 09:51 PM
i didnt know that, its interesting :O ill use it in my next weed is good fight :P
budsmoker
10-10-2006, 10:04 PM
all i know is that since school has started which was about 2 month's ago ive been smoking everyday and ive gotten the best grades ive ever got(5 A's) i dont know if its cuz of the weed but 1 thing i have learned is that weed dosent make u dumb....by the way ive been smoking everyday all together 4 about 8 months and the ONLY negative effect is short term memory loss
Jacop
10-10-2006, 10:09 PM
btw its not called "weed"
it is a weed.
but its called CANNABIS!!!
so stfu and stop spreading bad cannabis propaganda.
never call it anything but cannabis again. cause i said so
slipknotpsycho
10-10-2006, 10:18 PM
my question is, why does everyone come here telling us how safe pot is? and lip you know you're not the first, and won't be the last, but this is a community of potheads, all this energy is going to the wrong place, this energy should be spent on the people who think smoking a joint will make you drop dead on the spot, just an observation.
budsmoker
10-10-2006, 10:18 PM
btw its not called "weed"
it is a weed.
but its called CANNABIS!!!
so stfu and stop spreading bad cannabis propaganda.
never call it anything but cannabis again. cause i said so
cannabis weed same fucking thing, its not like im calling it dope so shut your stupid ninja ass up
Reefer Rogue
10-11-2006, 07:57 AM
Nothing wrong with saying weed, it's just slang. I recon cannabis is like 95% harmless. Until I know more i can't be certain, but im pretty sure :)
jamstigator
10-11-2006, 12:13 PM
I don't know if cannabis affects intelligence or not. I've smoked off and on for 27 years, and my IQ hasn't changed much. My woman has smoked for around 37 years, and her intelligence hasn't changed much either, still tests in the 140s. Well, to be fair, we test about 2 points lower now than we did in our teens, but that's a normal consequence of aging -- your neural networks are fully formed and solidified at our age, less adaptable, and that happens whether you smoke pot or not.
One interesting effect that cannabis had on me in high school was that it seemed to improve my math skills, especially in relation to solving trigonometric proofs and the like, which makes a lot of use of the creative parts of the brain. When I wasn't stoned for trig and calculus, I was always the second best in the class (after this brainy girl). But when I was stoned, I was just amazingly better. My teacher gave us a proof to solve one day when I was stoned, and I solved it in three steps. He pondered it on the board for quite a while, and gave me an odd look, then asked if anyone else had solved it that way, and no one had. So he asked someone else to show how they did it, which took five steps, and that was the way everyone else used as well. After that, I *always* got high before trig and calculus; it was just too big an advantage not to, and made those A's significantly easier than they might otherwise have been.
Now that I am older, I'm more interested in the medically beneficial effects of smoking. Cancers of various types run in my family. The woman has osteoporosis, and some research shows cannabis helps that, and that has been borne out by her doctor, who was surprised she'd shown no bone loss in the last six months. And of course, neither of us wants to ever suffer through Alzheimer's. If cannabis DOES affect memory and/or intelligence, the effect, even after 30 or 40 years of smoking, is so trivial that it's nowhere NEAR the concern that cancer, osteoporosis and Alzheimer's are, at least for us.
btw its not called "weed"
it is a weed.
but its called CANNABIS!!!
so stfu and stop spreading bad cannabis propaganda.
never call it anything but cannabis again. cause i said so
It's anything you want to call it. Stop trying to act cool..
AND, in England its cannabis only refers to hash, the bud is called skunk.
It's off the same plant, but thats the way they see it.
So, why dont you NINJA the hell off.
junkboxer
10-11-2006, 01:10 PM
if u eat/smoke 22 pounds of weed, your freaking out and dieing of a heart attack...at least i would.
You wouldnt die from smoking 22 lbs of weed. You'd just get very stoned.
TheGreenFog
07-13-2007, 03:49 PM
:what: Why drag up an OLD thread just to call someone a name, dude?
Be cool. :hippy:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
^-rep
:what: Why drag up an OLD thread just to call someone a name, dude?
Be cool. :hippy:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
^-rep
I was going to say the same thing, but that guy [thebeancounter] deserves all he gets. He's only out for an argument - hense why he's banned.
lil josh
07-14-2007, 12:23 AM
LOl lip i bet you was stoned when you made this thread?
Made me lol!
But yeah weed is safer than running!
Ive hurt myself countless times running, never when im stoned!
And yet they still hold a competition for who can do this (Should be a Class A) activity!
v
Weed may lead onto harder drugs...
How many runners end up taking steriods and god knows what else!
Weed may make breathing difficult...
Well i can breath better after ive done a bong than after ive been getting chased...i usually end up puking if it goes on for to long!
Kids i wouldn't advise using this in a argument against your parents, altho maybe the steroids one if running is already involved in the argument, dont just start going on bout athletes.
Lol lip im well stoned ;)
couch-potato
07-14-2007, 12:25 AM
Weed. I call it harmless. Alot of people do. To me it IS harmless.
Well, we all know its one of the safest drugs... infact, it IS the safest drug.
Well, now it just so happens i have found out it is safer than alot of things we EAT in everyday life.
Who likes potatoes?
If you eat 10+ raw potatoes you can have a toxic reaction, but if you eat 10+ kilos of weed you wont.
Meaning, weed is safer than a potato, and probably many other things we comsume on a regular basis.
some of you may have already known about the potato thing, but i didnt and thought it proves our point beyond recognition.
Weed is a harmless plant, put here to be smoked the fuck up.
WTF is up with all the anti-potato propaganda? Pffft.
Because potatoes are out to kill us. Trust me. I've got half a nogin screwed on my neck. They'll be the end of the world!
We need to replace potatoes with weed.
Weed Fries
Mash Weed
Weed Chips
I'm stoned so i cant think of any more, and i've got to get ready for tonight. Lots of beer, lots of weed, very big ruby, and a big smile.
Oh, and this thread is like from last year isnt it? I cant even remember, but it's time for it to die, FOR GOOD.
YouAintKnow
07-14-2007, 05:58 PM
If you drink a few gallons of water in a relatively short period of time, you can die. (It alters you're blood-alcohol level, so technically you can get drunk off of water. However, by that point you're probably dead...or about to be)
BAN WATER!
FakeBoobsRule
07-14-2007, 06:52 PM
If you drink a few gallons of water in a relatively short period of time, you can die. (It alters you're blood-alcohol level, so technically you can get drunk off of water. However, by that point you're probably dead...or about to be)
Technically, that's wrong, Yes you can die from drinking too much water in a short period of time and it is called water intoxication because it alters your mental status and you appear drunk but it has nothing to do with altering your blood alcohol level. What happens is it causes electrolyte imbalances, mainly sodium, and it causes a disruption in your nervous system and you can die.
Cleveland
07-14-2007, 07:21 PM
all i can think of is that sometimes i cough when i smoke. coughing is the body trying to fix something. if you get an air bubble while you drink, you cough a little to straighten it out. if you get some heavy smoke in your lungs, it tend to clog up the little air sacs and the coughing cleans it up a little. the body knows whats good and bad so that might be a sign
Sir Raf of BONG!
07-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Mmmm weed + melted cheese + potato + bacon
I fancey me some food
YouAintKnow
07-14-2007, 11:29 PM
Technically, that's wrong, Yes you can die from drinking too much water in a short period of time and it is called water intoxication because it alters your mental status and you appear drunk but it has nothing to do with altering your blood alcohol level. What happens is it causes electrolyte imbalances, mainly sodium, and it causes a disruption in your nervous system and you can die.
Ah, well I only heard about it after that incident at the radio station a few months ago. My friend made a compelling argument saying this, but I guess he was wrong. That does make sense though.
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