New Wave T5 Grow...IM NOW A BELIEVER !! [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

ticoblunts

10-06-2006, 09:09 PM

Hello there fellow growers. I have been growing for about 4yrs now using 1 400w HPS and 1 400w MH with a conversion bulb, 800 watts of growing power.A friend of mine recently invested in the HO T5 system 2ft x 4ft 400w total power. I must admit that I was really doubtful about using this new technology of marijuana growing. After seing his results iin three different crops I decided to go out and get one for myself. Since I have started my new crop with this new light I have nothing but great things to say about this light. I can say with ease that this is the best grow I have had yet...The low heat emition is a great big plus for this product. I never thought that a fluoro light would ever give me such nice plants. I have included some pics of the babies that i have on board...two weeks old !! Let me know what you think!

BlueBear

10-06-2006, 10:49 PM

I back T5's all the way. I am about to invest in a set up for a SOG grow. I will still keep the 1K set up as well, but I think the T5 systems are being slept on.
Adieu

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 01:23 AM

I give the makers of the T5 a joints up !

Abattoir Dream

10-07-2006, 09:28 AM

hey man those are beautiful plants, lookin healthy, hope to see an abundance of crystal coated buds sometime soon, good luck man, kepp it up...

crazywill

10-07-2006, 10:03 AM

Hi all
Great grow there.Good luck and keep us posted on the grow and the lights.

faithlessxxx

10-07-2006, 10:26 AM

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Mmm, looking very interesting, I must say.
Tell us a little about heat issues?

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ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 03:30 PM

Thank you all for your possitive vibes...These picks were taken two days before i put them into budding...they have been in buddint for 4 days now and looking real healthy!! I will make sure to post some more pics in the evening.

There basically is NO heat issues with this lamp. For example when i was running my HPS and MH i had to keep the lights at a steady 18" from my plants if not imediate burnt tips...Just by installing this new T5 I save 15" of grow space...which is always good in a closet grow!! I try and keep the plants at about 3" from the light but if they for some reason sneak past me and grow into the light theres really no huge damage done...only minor burns unlike the third degree burns that your regular HPS or MH would cause.
I just use a standing fan to move and cool my plants...more to move stale air than cool i would say...But like i would say before i bought my light "Seing is Believing" I am gonna post my progress so that my fellow growers can see the results !!

brookerosebud

10-07-2006, 03:44 PM

can we see a pic of the light?

misk

10-07-2006, 04:02 PM

jesus lol thats awsome devlopment for 2 weeks old
will be good to see the final results

gunge9

10-07-2006, 04:28 PM

Dude was the T5 HO light rig a custom build or did you buy it complete ?
I`m interested in the T5 method as i used to have marine fish and know how exellent T5`s can be and last forever, well almost.

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 05:06 PM

I'm at work right now so I cant post any pics...as soon as i get home I will make sure to update with some pics. I bought the T5 online...I think I paid like $450 for it!! Worth every penny!! I forgot to mention that they sent me a free sample of Fluorocious Plus with my order....that stuff is on hit!! A little stinky but works miracles!! Really helps tro drop roots and swell plants!

BlueBear

10-07-2006, 06:21 PM

I use the GH Flourolicias Grow and Bloom as addatives in my grows and the plants seem to love it. Can you post a link from where you got the lights. Like I said I want to do a T5 set up pretty soon.
Adieu

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 06:27 PM

i got my lights from specialty-lights.com

gunge9

10-07-2006, 08:10 PM

I see these units are 120volts only, being in the UK these are not compatible, but i will say for what they are the they`re very over priced, but do look the part.

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 09:05 PM

kdspecial

10-07-2006, 09:54 PM

I use a 2ft 4 bulb T5 light in the top of my cab. this height is like 3 ft tall the Light Is only 3inches in height. Its awsome. Plus the reflectors in the T5 lights are german technology which is supposed to be really good. I have yet to flower a whole plant through but here is a pick of A sexing process Im trying, I hope to have decent results.

the cfl raises the temps in my Cab by only 5 to 10 degress. It works well for hot summertime.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=80001&page=3

thats the log

kd_special

gunge9

10-07-2006, 10:11 PM

Well it all depends how you wanna look at over priced....if you think that you can get 8-16 ozs from out under that lamp...its not that expensive at all...plus the amount of money you save in the long run with high electricity bills!!

Well since you put it that way i guess it must be worth a gamble, when you say 8-16oz how many plants are we talking for that kinda yield ?

Trivium

10-07-2006, 10:14 PM

Well it all depends how you wanna look at over priced....if you think that you can get 8-16 ozs from out under that lamp...its not that expensive at all...plus the amount of money you save in the long run with high electricity bills!!

Hey tico, great grow you have here and I see this light of yours and I love it. I went to specialty-lights.com and did some looking around and I think that the Tek T5 432w is going to make priority on my next shop coming up. They are very sleek and hell you can get your own fixture adjuster, I would have to disagree and that this unit isnt overpriced ... Infact it is a reasonable price when you can flower 5-6 plants under it.

I see a future for T5.

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 10:19 PM

the image reaper

10-07-2006, 10:24 PM

I was up to twelve 40-watt tubes, and finally switched to HPS ... I miss some things about the flouros, they grow nicely ... but, I stayed with the cheap everyday tubes ... my arithmetic always told me it was much cheaper to add an extra cheap bulb or two to make up the lumen difference, than to replace those high-dollar T5s, which tend to be pretty pricey, dollar-to-lumen-wise ... just something to ponder, do the math ... :smokin:

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 10:28 PM

could be something to ponder...but come on now...we are all pot conumers and we all know that the an oz is gonna run you anywhere from $200-$400...so using the cheapest oz by getting 2ozs from your lamp its paid for !! Not much to think about !! Not to mention what you save in electricity in the long run!!

Trivium

10-07-2006, 10:32 PM

Trivium...Im glad to see that you agree!! I am possitive that you will not be dissapointed at all!! im currently wking with 8 plants aiming to get minimum 8 oz and maybe if im real lucky 12oz... I will make sure to keep everyone posted on my progress and final dry number!

Ill definatly stick around if this is going to be your log, I really like the clean/sleek setups such as your self, thats what I go for too heh. An ounce a plant is easily achievable with this setup, did you get all your bulbs the 3000K warm?

could be something to ponder...but come on now...we are all pot conumers and we all know that the an oz is gonna run you anywhere from $200-$400...so using the cheapest oz by getting 2ozs from your lamp its paid for !! Not much to think about !! Not to mention what you save in electricity in the long run!!

This is true , but dont grow to sell. Sell enough that you can live off and maybe a little here and there to friends , never hurt to have a bit of extra cash.:stoned:

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 10:36 PM

yup all 3000k warm and i dont grow to sell...i just look at it as Im saving myself this money by not going out to buy...so what better to invest the $$ in a good efficient grow light!!

ticoblunts

10-07-2006, 11:57 PM

Here's the babies Today...One week into budding cycle...

Trivium

10-08-2006, 12:00 AM

Here's the babies Today...One week into budding cycle...

Hey tico , they're looking really good. What strain are you growing?.:rasta:

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:03 AM

Trivium

10-08-2006, 12:08 AM

Well they are all mixed up...The bushier ones are Bubble Gum froma baggie that i found a seed in and made clones...the short stubby bushy one is Northern Cali Funk brought from a baggie out of Cali. There is also some LSD from BOG seeds in there aswell!! They all have great highs!! I am waiting to see which works best under this lamp!!

I really take a liking to bubblegum, I have growin it once and its a real nice high. So I take it this is your log for these plants since it its not worth starting one when you're a week into flowering,heh.:stoned:

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:10 AM

yeah im here to stay...representing Costa Rica....PURA VIDA

Trivium

10-08-2006, 12:15 AM

yeah im here to stay...representing Costa Rica....PURA VIDA

Great, Cant wait to see the buds on these girls. Ill drop in here&there to throw in any advice I can. Keep up the green work.:pimp:

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:16 AM

Thanks for your support my brotha from anotha motha
!!

dusto2k3

10-08-2006, 12:20 AM

T5's kick ass, i have a 6 light 2' fixture for vegging. Hardly any heat, if any, and good dense groth under it.

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:21 AM

Smoke On :stoned:

the image reaper

10-08-2006, 12:43 AM

yeah im here to stay...representing Costa Rica....PURA VIDA

welcome aboard ! ... :smokin:

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:46 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome!

BlueBear

10-08-2006, 12:47 AM

The T5's are completely different from the T8's because they have an electric ballast and the electric ballast has a higher, quicker, constancy light projection. Or to put it another way when you use the old T8 fixtures which use a magnetic ballast they don't cycle as fast and the light actually has a slight flicker that takes place. This flickering, though unnoticeable to our eyes does affect the plant growth. I can get more technical, but this is the basic difference, besides the T5's have higher lumens, and less heat, but yes indeed do cost more. But don't get me wrong, people have put together some really nice T8 set ups and had good success with them and, what a T8 4 bulb fixture runs for about $50? Some people love that facter and hook it up without any regrets. So to each his own.
Adieu

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 12:51 AM

Im the type of person who much rather just go out and buy the finished project instead of going through any trial and error....I mean if you know a lot about electricity and can put it together easily then go for it....Like my fellow smoker just said ...To each his own...

fishens

10-08-2006, 04:21 AM

hey Trivium
I just ordered some T5's. I had just posted a question about the best fluoro light for flowering and then I noticed your post. My questioned answered. Good Luck and keep us posted. One question..Did you use the 3000k for vegging also?
Fishens

TheGreenFog

10-08-2006, 05:24 AM

This is very interesting...Very. (<---I'm serious)

Beautiful plants. Two thumbsup! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I'm stunned...and stoned... :D

TGF

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 01:00 PM

im doing my best to keep some beautiful plants all the way through to the end...This light proves itself more and more as the budding process progresses...
Fishens,
I used the 3000k bulbs from the begging and will continue to use them throughout the rest of the flowering cycle.

if you gotm...smokm

L3G10N

10-08-2006, 01:02 PM

yeah man, these things are awesome. I know a guy who has one. I went to his house to buy his old 1000 watt MH/HPS light and he showed me that Tek-5 8 bulb fixture he bought. He turned it on and i couldnt even look at it... he turned it off and said "it didnt even warm up yet" So anyway, i bought the 1000 HID from him and still have not used it. I want a T5 setup mainly because of the heat issues of the HID and besides, im not gonna be growing enough plants to justify using 1000 watts HPS. I have a National garden wholesale catalog with the Tek-5 fixtures in it, there are these new ones that have 8 bulbs and 2-150w HPS bulbs in it, both can work together or independantly. I think i want that one.

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 02:02 PM

In my opinion, if you are a casual grower (herbs for the head) one of these lights will work perfect for you...This is like the 5th case of people turning in their 1000watter for one of these lights...But I like many had to see it to believe it and make the investment...the t5 with the HPS sounds tempting, but then i think about my electric bill...but to be honest with you even if I didnt have to deal with electricty I think I would stick with the regular version because of the almost NO heat facto....Smoke On Brothers!!

Kwali

10-08-2006, 02:06 PM

I first got 4 t5 two bulb strips, but two broke some mystery way after like 2 weeks. Needless to say I scratched that idea for 800watts of hps/mh

Cyclonite

10-08-2006, 03:25 PM

You mentioned its cheaper (electricity wise) with the T5s but you also said its 400 watts...and watts is watts when it comes to the bill so it should be the same. Also how many lumen's does each bulb put out....I have a veg/clone setup with about 6200 lumen's, 3100 per bulb. I decided to use that in lieu of my MH and flower them under my 400 Watt HPS.

jamstigator

10-08-2006, 03:43 PM

Trivium

10-08-2006, 07:03 PM

T5's aren't cheaper. A 400 watt HPS with Hortilux bulb puts out 55,000 lumens. A T5 eight-bulb system puts out 40,000 lumens for 432 watts (54x8) of electricity useage. So, the HPS light puts out more lumens, for less cost on your electric bill. You can also just use a $10 bulb with the HPS light (albeit with less light output than a Hortilux bulb, but still more light than the T5). I don't know how much eight of those T5 bulbs cost, but I imagine it's more than $1.25/bulb.

No matter how you cut it, an HPS system (of equivalent wattage) generates more light, uses less electricity, has better canopy penetration, and in a pinch you can replace your bulb for ten bucks.

The big advantage of a T5 seems to be that it generates less heat than a HPS light. But if you can handle the heat of a HPS light, I don't see a lot of reason to flower with T5s, although they're probably okay for ScroG. They'd probably make nice sidelights if you hung them vertically, in conjunction with a primary HPS light. They do seem like they'd be nice for vegging, since you don't need as much light then as you do during flowering, and young plants are more sensitive to heat.

Hey jamstigator, great argument. I guess it really boil down to your personal preference, HPS may be better to flower with , but the T5 can still finish right beside it. No matter what, there's always going to be less heat with the T5's then there will be the HPS's. If you use the same ventilation as you would on an HPS and used it for a T5 , would the T5 grow room not be cooler. Of course you would need bigger and better stuff to keep the HPS cool, but if you used that equipment on the T5 lighting Im sure it would be cooler.:cool:

hey Trivium
I just ordered some T5's. I had just posted a question about the best fluoro light for flowering and then I noticed your post. My questioned answered. Good Luck and keep us posted. One question..Did you use the 3000k for vegging also?
Fishens

Hey fishen, Tico is the guy you want to talk to.
Although I will answer your question:P You should use the 3000K for flower, but yes you can use it for veg, just not as effective.:stoned:

.....And on a personal note , this thread just got grrrreat.(as tony the tiger puts it):smokin:

Trivium

10-08-2006, 07:41 PM

Hey tico, how about some photos?:D

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 09:43 PM

I will make sure to hit you guys up with some more pics when I get home!!

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 11:55 PM

Here's today's pics!!

ticoblunts

10-08-2006, 11:55 PM

Im thinking two ozs a plant!!

eagleboy1965

10-09-2006, 12:06 AM

:smokin: :rasta: I've been online for a minute now, and I'm really enjoying all of you guys art work. Do you share your paintings, or do you sell them?

Markass

10-09-2006, 12:27 AM

:smokin: :rasta: I've been online for a minute now, and I'm really enjoying all of you guys art work. Do you share your paintings, or do you sell them?

I'll take some of what you're having.

KOZMO

10-09-2006, 01:05 AM

I think he is trying to ask for weed in code

faithlessxxx

10-09-2006, 01:07 AM

I think he's speaking in code ;)

faithlessxxx

10-09-2006, 01:07 AM

Oi you, stop copying me.

ticoblunts

10-09-2006, 02:55 AM

Its always best to share.....I also think hes talking in code....

ticoblunts

10-09-2006, 12:13 PM

Good Morning to all the pot heads on the worldwide internet...Im just sitting here enjoying a fat breakfast bowl of bubble gum...

Trivium

10-09-2006, 08:01 PM

Good Morning to all the pot heads on the worldwide internet...Im just sitting here enjoying a fat breakfast bowl of bubble gum...

Hey tb, you lucky lucky guy. I havent been able ot get my hands on 'real' bubblegum weed in almost 3 months here, I had a friend try and pass me some weed and say it was bubblegum but it sure as hell wasnt, smelt and taste more like juicy fruit, but maybe it was the grower who fuckedup?
Anyway , enjoy your morning bowl and good morning to you too.

Phx

10-10-2006, 02:35 PM

The setup looks nice. Probably a little too large for my lungs... I do like the "no heat" factor though of course. I will definitely consider this type of light for my NEXT light purchase if I want to move up to a larger production.

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 07:51 PM

I changed the water today and here are some updated pics!! Brought the light up about another 3"....

gum.

10-10-2006, 08:04 PM

Wow... nice job, very fine integrate growing :thumbsup: greetings

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 08:07 PM

thanks for the possitive vibe!!

TheGreenFog

10-10-2006, 09:15 PM

Very nice Ticoblunts, this is really one of the best grows I've seen. I mean, your plants look impeccable. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

I shld be doing bubblegum soon. :D:D:D

TGF

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 09:19 PM

Hey TGF...too bad your not in Costa Rica too try some chewing gum je je je

Pass That Shit

10-10-2006, 10:19 PM

Hey Tico, I'm very surprised the site moderators haven't jumped all over you yet. I guess they don't mind soliciting. It was obvious from your first post. I've never seen an original post directed towards hyping up a light system. You keep plugging away at that system every chance you get. I guess you just had to tell everyone to go and get that light system in your first ever post. You're coming across like a light salesman.

Since it's in my blood to stir the pot, I challenge you to prove that your grow is legit. Why don't you put some white out or a piece of tape on one of your leaves and show us an updated pic of them? Or to make it easier, just cut a leaf in half and take a pic of it showing your same setup. I also took notice how your plants went from 4 days of flowering to ONE WEEK in the same day. At the rate you're going, you should harvest in about a week. You should just have put the link and the price for the T5 in your first post. I didn't believe for a minute that the plants in your first ever post were two weeks old. Has anyone ever had plants look like that after two weeks? Are they on steroids? Or are you just hyping up that T5? Did I say T5? I guess since no one caught on, why ruin a good thing right? Keep plugging that T5 away.

Horsefeathers

10-10-2006, 10:30 PM

TheGreenFog

10-10-2006, 10:50 PM

Ooook. Well now I'm curious to hear a reply from Tico about that. I do not usually condone calling people out like that, but it is a legitimate question, due to the extreme results by the plants and the name brand dropping. :)

Good eye, Passthat. :D Where you been? Aint seen ya on the thread lately since that male seed issue. :( Dont take it personally. :D:D

TGF

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 11:00 PM

hey buddy i think your pretty rude acusing me of something that you have no idea of....I dont need to prove shit to you or anyone...I dont think i would be a great salesman on a product that isnt even sold in my country!! as far as them being two weeks old they were...to b more exact they were two week old clones counting from the day they rooted...and where you say they went from four days to a week I was just making a simple rounded estimate to a week!!

I want all the growers out there to see what i didnt believe...thats all!! I wish I would have seen a post like this one a year ago!!

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 11:05 PM

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 11:28 PM

your a little quiet over there PassTheShit!!

TheGreenFog

10-10-2006, 11:41 PM

Well, Passthat, I guess you got what you wanted. lol That sure is a piece of paper. Like I said, you might have approached the subject a little less accusative (<---I dont think that's a word). It was a valid question, but maybe not the best approach. :)

Anyway, so I guess I'm back to saying...nice plants. I might have to check me out summa dem lights. I'll post my opinion if I do. Anyone else who has these lights, I'd love to see the results. :) Maybe I'll do a search on it.

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 11:46 PM

I am very content with my order...the grow gods spoke to me in a dream and asked me to tell all growers I can about this new found technology!! These are real results...If you read my first posts you can easily see that i was reluctant to say where I got them from due to the fact that I dont want to come off as a salesman!! Have a great smoke people...I have to smoke some more cuz this RUDE person shot my high right down!! Have a Great Night TGF!!

ticoblunts

10-10-2006, 11:50 PM

PASS THAT SHIT

Envy is also a capital sin in the Grow God's Books!!

jamstigator

10-10-2006, 11:56 PM

Lol, well, guess there's no ambiguity now, about whether those are real pics or not! ;)

Pass That Shit

10-11-2006, 12:33 AM

Tico, ever heard the saying "I was born at night, but NOT last night?"

My questions were and are legitimate. For a guy who just wants to help fellow growers out, you haven't had a single post except to tell people to buy this light. Are you too busy to help your fellow growers out with their questions? Cause you're obviously a professional grower. Who are you kidding? Your 1st EVER post on this site was to tell everyone about your awesome light, even though you were only 2 weeks into your grow. By the way, that piece of paper didn't prove a thing. You obviously didn't take me up on my challenge. Re-read it and follow through if you are legit.

You have been trying to convince fellow growers that this is the best grow you ever had even though you were previously growing under 800W. So you're claiming to have improved your situation by dropping 400W correct? So I guess you can be the first to debate EVERYONE on this site that will say that 800W is better than 400W. So now you're probably gonna say that even though this is your best grow, you had a "better" harvest from 800W right? So what is better about 400W over 800W that you claim? And someone already pointed you out about the electricity. 400W of electricity is 400W of electricity. Actually your product even has less lumens than the other 400W. Sorry dude, I said what I had to about this and will be moving on. I'm not here to debate you. I didn't want people to be dissapointed if they order a T5 system.

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:44 AM

Yo man what a cop out my brotha!! Im realy not a professional grower...been growing on and off trying to perfect my ways!! I did have 800 watts and to be honest with you in the situation that I MYSLEF was in it didnt wk for me!! Since my recent grow is a closet grow the 800w would burn the shit out of my plants and the space issue was a big thing...as far as elctricity I save money on not having to put in more or bigger exaust fans and or a/c!! I really doubt anyone would be dissapointed with this light!!
Yo and not that I care what a fuckin know nothing american hasto say but how did I not meet your challenge...Like I said Envy is also a capital sin in the Grow God's Books! Why cant you be happy to see someone have some good looking plants!! Im gonna go as far as to say that you seem like a fuckin Cop to me!! I smell BACON!! people need to watch what they say around you!!

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 12:46 AM

is this light anygood? i was thinking of buying

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:48 AM

Looks ok but low wattage!!

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 12:51 AM

wats the name of your one? and were can i get one?, Thanks

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:51 AM

U know just a foot note, I saw the T5 lamps on a CSI episode a couple months ago!! they found a grow room full of these lights!!

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 12:54 AM

wats the name of your one? and were can i get one??, Thanks

gunge9

10-11-2006, 12:55 AM

Roll a spliff for these two someone...Quick !

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:56 AM

Do a search on google T5 Lights !! U will find various places!! I wont mention exactly where anymore because of people like Pass me The Shit who mike think that I am a saleman and not a real grower!!

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:58 AM

Roll a spliff for these two someone...Quick !

Man im trying to snap some bowls!! Everytime i get up there I get this whiff of bacon and i come right back down!! Im not here to fight with anybody but no one likes to be acused of a liar!! Your word is the only thing you HAVE!!

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 12:59 AM

Roll a spliff for these two someone...Quick !

i'd roll you in a spliff and smoke you punk

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 12:59 AM

cheers ticoblunts

gunge9

10-11-2006, 01:00 AM

is this light anygood? i was thinking of buying

Dude, that is an aquarium light hood, trust me i paid dearly for mine as i had a marine aquarium a few months back.

To be fair they look the part but are too expensive for a decent grow, i could build the same for a fraction of the cost i think.

Take a good look @ CFL`s, cheap, bright, and easy.

gunge9

10-11-2006, 01:01 AM

i'd roll you in a spliff and smoke you punk

Mummy !

DonSmokin

10-11-2006, 01:02 AM

thats all i wanted to know thanks

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 01:03 AM

We call big fat joint MUMMY FINGERS here in Costa Rica

familyguy

10-11-2006, 04:37 AM

use t5 for cloning, veggin, and if you have no MH, use them for your first 3 weeks of bloom (gets the plants ready for some intense blooming without the major stretching....)......hot tip, get a 1000w HPS! and grow some big bud!

T5 Bulbs each 5000 lumens........
1000W SHPS 145 000 lumens...........

Peace

Hello there fellow growers. I have been growing for about 4yrs now using 1 400w HPS and 1 400w MH with a conversion bulb, 800 watts of growing power.A friend of mine recently invested in the HO T5 system 2ft x 4ft 400w total power. I must admit that I was really doubtful about using this new technology of marijuana growing. After seing his results iin three different crops I decided to go out and get one for myself. Since I have started my new crop with this new light I have nothing but great things to say about this light. I can say with ease that this is the best grow I have had yet...The low heat emition is a great big plus for this product. I never thought that a fluoro light would ever give me such nice plants. I have included some pics of the babies that i have on board...two weeks old !! Let me know what you think!

ticoblunts

10-11-2006, 12:00 PM

thansk fro the advice Family Guy...thing is Im currently doing a closet grow and this light is what works best for me at the time!! thanks though and good high to you!!

ticoblunts

10-12-2006, 03:46 PM

Today's pics...It's a jungle out there boys!!

Racerx

10-12-2006, 10:11 PM

Today's pics...It's a jungle out there boys!!

I will add my 2 cents about T5s. They rock.

We recently did an experiement where 2/3 of our babies went under 6 T5 42watt bulbs and the other 1/3 went under an HPS. Obviously an MH would have been better but Ive never seen enough of a difference to invest in an MH bulb (even have a ballsat, lazy i guess). The T5 did not have better growth, but neither did the HPS. On the whole, you really could not tell the difference if the plants were right under the light.

The big difference is that we never really moved the HPS and we had to move the T5s everyday, sometimes twice a day!!! The other problem was that you cannot stick plants on the outside. You drastically loose lumens with T5s compared to an HID light. So the plants on the outside of the HPS did wonderful, no stretching, but the plants on the outside of T5s did have rather long node spacing. But that is obviously our fault for trying to stuff so many plants under them.

I am very convinced they are a GREAT investment for veg. However for flowering I think they are a joke unless you have LSTed the plants like crazy. They cannot penetrate worth a damn.

However, if you get nearly the same or the same growth as an HPS, you must also remember that you use less energy and the heat is much more manageable with T5s compared to HID. I will continue to use them on fresh clones and most of veg.

ticoblunts

10-12-2006, 10:51 PM

Racerx, did you flower you plants with the T5?

ticoblunts

10-14-2006, 11:14 PM

more pics for today...

binger

10-16-2006, 06:58 PM

I've been reading this thread for a while, and can't determine if this is the way to go or not. I've never grown, but have a friend who's going to try to start up their own grow. I understand the electrical arguments, but am considering whether there are other reasons for the quality of growth with less energy. There is an article in the July/August 2006 of 'The Indoor Gardener' about these lights which some might find helpful making a decision.

Once someone attacked Tico for marketing, my friend went back to the HPS, which many people here seemed to swear by. After reading this article, I'm wondering if he made the right choice. I'd post a copy here, but I'm not sure about copyrights.

Some of the arguments in this article included reduced heat (which translated to reduced stress) and a better spectrum of light, closer to that of regular sunlight. They demonstrated two grows, one with HPS, and the other with the T5.

ticoblunts

10-17-2006, 12:26 PM

Post the link...Id like to read that!!

binger

10-17-2006, 02:08 PM

Sorry, I don't have a link - it was in a magazine. The magazine's web site doesn't have articles, just a promotion for subscriptions. It can be found at www.indoorgardenermagazine.com

I picked up a free copy from a local hyrdo store. Given that they charge for subscriptions and back issues, I'm guessing that they would not appreciate my making a copy of this article to post.

TheGreenFog

10-17-2006, 02:12 PM

Well, we all sure would love to see the article. And I'm certainly not going to subscribe or pay for a back order to read that one article. Therefore, while it sounds exciting, it is really of no use to us if we cant see the article. :) Why dont you summarize it and give some of its key points? That would help. Thanks.

TGF

Edit: I mean, I suppose you hit the big ones in your 2nd to last post about the reduced heat and better spectrum, etc, but it would be nice to see the article with pics. :(

ticoblunts

10-17-2006, 06:38 PM

I had to break down the box that my plants were in since they were getting soo big...here's some updated pics!! Enjoy!!

binger

10-18-2006, 01:01 AM

TGF,

I do not want to get myself, or the board owners into trouble by posting copyrighted material. I can add to the statements I made previously, that they also claim that the plants grown under the fluorescent lamps were also healthier, and that relocating the plants from indoor growing to outdoor growing resulted in better survivior rates. The fluorescent lamps resulted in no lost plants during the transfer, compared to 60% loss from the 1000W sodium lamp.

I agree that it would be helpful for everyone considering this type of light for their grow, to see the article. That's why I posted information about it, so people could make informed decisions. If you have a local hydro shop near you, I would imagine they have a copy of it there. I'm still unsure which is better. I'd like to see how things go when ticoblunts' grow gets to the flowering stage.

ticoblunts - nice job :thumbsup: hope you get some nice buds from that crop!

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 02:51 AM

No I hear ya man. Not asking you to violate any C laws at all. Hell, no. Thanks for the info, though. I guess we'll all just have to keep our eyes on tico's thread. If those lights can do as well flowering as they do vegging, I'm most definitely gonna be in the market for one. :thumbsup: Thanks for the heads up, mang.

TGF

sweetcandy

10-18-2006, 05:13 AM

Not to take sides with passthatshit and tico but read post #1 then #79 tell me what you get from it.

TheGreenFog

10-18-2006, 05:21 AM

Not to take sides with passthatshit and tico but read post #1 then #79 tell me what you get from it.

:confused:What?:confused:

Ok, first of all, Pass That Shit & Tico have differing viewpoints, so there is no way you could take both of their sides...

Secondly, What does post #79 about the CSI episode have anything to do with post #1 other than they both mention the lights?

So, what exactly did you mean when you posted that? Or are you just :stoned: and confused?? I think you need to read the thread a little more closely. :p

Thanks. :D:D:D

TGF

ticoblunts

10-18-2006, 12:11 PM

Not to take sides with passthatshit and tico but read post #1 then #79 tell me what you get from it.

WHACHU TALKIN ABOUT WILLIS????......:confused: :stoned:

Pass That Shit

10-18-2006, 09:15 PM

Not to take sides with passthatshit and tico but read post #1 then #79 tell me what you get from it.

This thread has so many holes it's like swiss cheese :D

Couldn't agree with you more. Post #1 and #79 sum up what this thread is ALL about :thumbsup:

ticoblunts

10-18-2006, 09:39 PM

OK both of you need to quite smoking that green crack...its getting to you!! If you think my thread is full of holes the dont read it!! Ive seen your plants PTS and to be honest with you I see why you would b jealous!!

Pass That Shit

10-18-2006, 10:18 PM

What am I jealous of? What's there to envy?

I have no desire to be a light salesman :dance:

ticoblunts

10-18-2006, 10:33 PM

OK Buddy you got me....U finally found out who I am....I'm a SALESMAN !!! Yo man get off it bud!! Im just here to document my grow and show people my progress while Im at it !! Go smoke a bowl and chill !! Opinions are like assholes every has one!! I respect your opinion that Im a salesman but Im possitive as time goes by the public will see that Im not !! Have peace my brother...its there just need to look way down deep!! You need to keep the acusating Bush mentality in the USA...we are not talking nuclear bombs here its just some plants...so believe me or not i really dont give a flying FUCK!!

Sorry for the rambling...little stoned here!!

Pass That Shit

10-18-2006, 10:46 PM

What do you have against Americans?
Why isn't your thread in Spanish?

By the way, I was born in Europe. :)

ticoblunts

10-18-2006, 10:52 PM

Very good questions...My thread is not in Spanish because of the fact that English is more of a Universal Language tha Spanish!! I really have nothing against American persay...Im against the American mentality of always wanting to pick a fight...Where you were born has nothing to do with anything...judging from you attitude and the fact that you have an american flag in your country space pretty much tels me all I need to know and proves why i dont like the American Mentality!!

By the way, I was born in the USA!! California to be exact!! You can keep that country!! Costa Rica is the place for me!! No army and no worries!!

PURA VIDA BUDDY

Pass That Shit

10-18-2006, 11:07 PM

PURA VIDA :thumbsup:

How do you know I'm from the States?

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 12:14 AM

LOL...I will judge by your first choice of flag!! JE JE JE SMOKE ON BRO!!

rustafa

10-19-2006, 12:59 AM

ticoblunts thats an awsome setup you got going there i was just wondering i have been researching growing but not much hydroponics mainly soil. But when i saw your post that was the nicest and cleanest looking setup for a closest grow. Do you think there is some way you can explain your method to a new comer like myself. Such as a drawing of what you did. I dont know if this is the right forum to be be explaining that or not if so please just tell me how i can setup my closet to be exactly like yours. thank you

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 01:09 AM

hey rustafa,

ill be more than happy to help....i am using a 20 plant aeroponic system with 8 plants in it...As far as light I use a New Wave T5 4ft 8 bulb sytem...all warm bulbs. I also have a 15" standing fan to move the stale air...I placed my plants one in every other hole too allow some room for grow.... As far as nutrients I use some local stuff that is a two part sytem that is used throughout the whole grow...in addition to the local stuff I add in Fluorlicious Plus!! These plants are from clone and vegged for about tree weeks from first sign of roots...I hope this will help you.. Feel free to ask any other questions!!

BlueBear

10-19-2006, 02:48 AM

How many total lumens are you getting? What kind of harvests is your partner getting, and what seems to be the down sides from your point of view if any at this point to using the T5's?
Keep it up
Adieu

sweetcandy

10-19-2006, 05:35 AM

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 12:15 PM

hey bluebear, I really dont know exactly how many lmens im getting...Id have to look that up for you...My buddy got an oz a plant using 5 clones that were not vegged under this lamp...only bud cycle...I must add that the clones were only vegged one week do to another buddy of ours' fuck up...but they still came out great!! His grow look nice and now mine looks even better so we will just have to wait and see what these buds are gonna look like. As far as drawbacks...I would have to say you really have to watch the stretch with these lamps...plants tend to stretch fater with these lights...lights had to be moved twice even three times a day during the early stages of budding (growth spurt). To be honest with you i like to speak for myself and what I myself get from this light, not my buddy's previous grow...I can rate the vegging process at a 10+ on a scale of 1-10 with these lights...Im hoping the bussing is ust as good for me...I wil keep you posted as we go along!!

yo sweetcandy, I like the mind games...My buddy had already purchased the lamps when one night he called me to flip on CSI...low and behold there was a growroom full of them on the CSI episode. I think I calmed PassThatShit down a little...had to show him the path to inner peace....je je je je Any advice I can give a fellow grower is a pleasure!! Have a great day and a Fine smoke!!

Pass That Shit

10-19-2006, 02:43 PM

See the thing about my post was to see who was jiving who. I didn't mention that I was agreeing with passthatshit or tico. I wanted to see who would take offense to it first and maybe that was the guilty party. Just a little something I seen on CSI. The post could have been about tico being right by giving us an example of how popular and effective the lights are when seeing them on the show and passthatshit was just jealous.. Or it could have been about tico tring to beef up his pitch about the lights. Depending on who side you are on, you will see the wrong in one or the other. Will the guilty party please stand.
P.S. I'm just having some fun. Tico when i begin to grow again I will need your advice.

So did you figure out who's jiving who? Was your post offensive? And if so, to who? I was not offended by it. If you're implying that I'm jealous of Tico's grow, you are far from knowing what is true. I'm constantly giving props on here to growers that do a good job. I smoke when I please, so there's no jealousy here.

Tico, you didn't calm me, I was teasing you to show just cause you have that flag up there doesn't mean a thing. You obviously couldn't handle criticism, so you retaliated with profanity. That is not the way to lead someone to inner peace. Do you really think I'm the only one who felt that way about your first post? Unlike others, I'm not afraid to speak my mind. And just for the record, I'm not saying your setup is not good, I just think you're hyping it up. Why not do a little research and post the lumens?

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 04:17 PM

Well pass that shit dont u think a good SALESMAN should know exactly how many lumens his product puts out....I think i should b fired asd a salesman!!

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 04:21 PM

According to the place that i bought the light from...ea bulb is 54w 5000 lumens, I have an 8 bulb system !! Pass that shit might not be the only non-beleiver...for that exact reason is why i opend this thread...so people can see the real deal!!

Racerx

10-19-2006, 07:28 PM

Racerx, did you flower you plants with the T5?

No I never flower with T5s. I have seen it done with good results. But HPS will always blow it away in budding if you can control the environment. The reason I see good results when budding with T5s is the environment is just so much easier to control, in regards to heat, etc.

ticoblunts

10-19-2006, 07:48 PM

Hey racer....its good to hear some possitive feedback!! I am entering budding now and will soon post some pics so you guys can see!!

sweetcandy

10-20-2006, 01:06 AM

Passthatshit, i know that you did not take offense when you read the post. Therefore i know you are not jealous. However, Tico always come back strong and on top. If he is a saleman, he sold me. It is possible that he could have some benefits in the sales of T5 lights but if he's got a good product that works I want it.

This is the first thread that i've read all the way through with over 100 post, because it is so interesting with you all.
You are keeping it fun
Thanks for the entertainment and knowledge.
Tico show some more pics

Pass That Shit

10-20-2006, 01:34 AM

Fair enough :thumbsup:

If you read the entire thread then you know I never said that Tico doesn't have a good product. Just because someone is motivated to push a product doesn't make it a bad product. :pimp:

What I questioned wasn't the product, but rather his motivation. But since the grow gods appeared to him in a dream, he's on a mission. :dance:

ticoblunts

10-20-2006, 01:41 AM

Well just for the record...im no salesman!! je je je je im glad we have made this thread entertaining and educational at the same time...my sister in law has my camera...I will post some pics tomorrow when i get it back!!

faithlessxxx

10-20-2006, 01:41 AM

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Interesting stuff...post some new pics!!!

.

rustafa

10-20-2006, 10:12 PM

tico

do you think your getting these great results becasue your combining aeroponics and these lights that your using or no. I have been researching aeroponics but seems a bit difficult for a bigginer like myself do you know any links or posts of aero systems that are fairly easy to build all i see is room full systems im only trying to grow about 6 plants in an apartment so im trying to build something small did you buy your setup or did you build it yourself?? I was planning something with very little to no oder i was told northern lights is the way to go do you think northern lights x big bud will smell alot or will it be easy to cover up with out carbon filter again im just trying to have a closet grow like yourself just about the same dimensions.

ticoblunts

10-20-2006, 10:38 PM

rustafa
I think that the grow system can vary in the setup...I personally think the results come from the fluoralicious plus and the light and lots of TLC...Talking to your plants is one of the best things you can do...

I bought my system second hand from a friend who bought it on the net. I paid a good price for it but after seing how it was all put together i helped several friends of mine build their own custom size systems...its actually pretty easy...just need to get the principal down pat....Since you are a begging grower i would actually recomend that you work with the DWC sytem...this is one of the easiest sytems to put together. You can use either rubbermaid storage boxes or 5 gallon buckets...I started off with a 10 gallon rectangular rubbermaid with 4 3" holes in the top and a small fish tank powerhead to oxigenate the water and constantly mix the nutrients...This method worked well but the plants kind of grew into one another...you can either do less plants per rubbermaid or do the same system but using 5 gallon buckets...ea bucket with its own powerhead and on plant per bucket....using this method you will defintley get a NIZE heavy crop...lots of roots !!

As far as smell...Ive never grown that genetics b4 so i cant tell...some plants smell more than others...but if you have an exaust going to the roof or the bavckyard you shoud b fine!!
I hope this helps!!

Buddahbear

10-22-2006, 01:48 PM

"Fuck Pass That Shit" hahaha oh man that's some funny shit.

I think what all these people talking shit about t5s are forgetting about growing is it's not just about technical specs and shit. Ideally the best set up would be air cooled 1,000 watts with plenty of space to do all of it but not everyone has space to be running a big drug lab!

For closet/small space grows, I think T5's could be awesome. I have no personal experience with them, but I know that HPS in a closet is an ASSload of problems (seeing as it's hard to vent most closets). With Supplimented CO2, some tek 5's and some fans you could definitely pull down a big harvest in a small amount of space.

ticoblunts

10-22-2006, 03:09 PM

I SECOND THE MOTION !!! T5 is working great for me...I should be posting more pics today!!

ticoblunts

10-22-2006, 10:24 PM

Heres some pics...I think it aint lookin too bad....

ticoblunts

10-23-2006, 01:38 PM

heres some more pics...these were taken this morning....

ticoblunts

10-23-2006, 01:49 PM

according to MY calculations these babies are about 20 days into flowering...

PaRaNoIa

10-23-2006, 02:35 PM

Yo tico.

You seem like you're doing fine..

And therefor won't be needing help..

Good ongoing luck though..:)

PP

ticoblunts

10-23-2006, 02:56 PM

Thanks a lot PaRaNoIa!! :rasta:

Opinions are welcome...anyone out there 20 days into flowering with a 400w hps so we can maybe compare pics...je je je

Buddahbear

10-24-2006, 03:10 AM

Tico you seem to know your shit so I thought I'd ask you a quick question. What do you think about using this 4x4' grow light
http://cgi.ebay.com/4-FT-4-LAMP-HO-T5-FLOURESCENT-ORCHID-GROW-LIGHT-FIXTURE_W0QQitemZ110039161143QQihZ001QQcategoryZ42 225QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

for providing vegging (mothers and clones) to an 1,000w HPS SoG garden?

ticoblunts

10-24-2006, 12:31 PM

hey buddahbear, I love the idea!! If i had some more space here where im at that is defintely the sytem i would b using!! Good Luck brotha!!

ticoblunts

10-25-2006, 04:22 PM

here goes today's pic...I changed the water yesterday and started adding Tiger Bloom je je je

Garden Knowm

10-25-2006, 05:02 PM

Hi TICO..

nice pics.. nice plants.. nice thread : )

: )

orangeman

10-25-2006, 05:13 PM

Lol doing research convinced me to use fluoro's for cloning and vegging before I even started. IMO unless your using HPS's and MH's together for flowering, MH's just seem like too much money spent on a light for vegging. I always believed fluoros we're cheaper and just as well for the vegging and cloning job.

ticoblunts

10-25-2006, 08:27 PM

Hi TICO..

nice pics.. nice plants.. nice thread : )

: )

thanks.. thanks.. and thanks!! :rasta:

orangeman; i am using these lamps from clone to finish...check back for more updated results!!

orangeman

10-25-2006, 08:48 PM

thanks.. thanks.. and thanks!! :rasta:

orangeman; i am using these lamps from clone to finish...check back for more updated results!!

Yeah I seen those, the plants look very good man. And those lights look so cool lol, I'm gonna have to buy one of those. Where did you get yours? If you got your's online could you link me to the web-site? :D

TheGreenFog

10-25-2006, 08:58 PM

~Orangeman~

i got my lights from specialty-lights.com

~Tico~
I can't wait to see the finished product. It seems very effective so far. i have to read back a little cuz I forget what kind of ventilation you have and what your temps are. It also seems that you have really not had any serious problems with your nutes, res temps, algae, bugs, or anything else that has shown or left any damage. WTF, man? :confused: :D :thumbsup:

Cheers.

TGF

ticoblunts

10-25-2006, 09:19 PM

~Orangeman~

~Tico~
I can't wait to see the finished product. It seems very effective so far. i have to read back a little cuz I forget what kind of ventilation you have and what your temps are. It also seems that you have really not had any serious problems with your nutes, res temps, algae, bugs, or anything else that has shown or left any damage. WTF, man? :confused: :D :thumbsup:

Cheers.

TGF

Yeah I cant hardly wait myself...At first I was using just a regular household oscilating fan to move the stale air around...as i got further into growing my house started to really stink(my grow is in my closet in my room on the second floor)you could smell the weeds right as soon as you stepped in the front door of the house. I went ahead and installed a 12"extraction fan in the window that leads to the back yard...that now creates a negative airflow when the door is shut...The fan actually sucks air from the cracks and crevices and no air or smell gets out...I havent really measured the temp since its really not hot at all...I read once that if you are confortable with the temp than your plants are to...If I had to estimate Id say its about 75 degrees in there...I use a local organic brand two part nute sytem aswell as fluoralicious plus and now im adding tiger bloom...Ive burnt my plants in the past so Im taking it real easy on the nutes this time around...Growing is a lot like cooking...just have to watch and see how your plants react...No bugs thank god!! A little but of algae in the canals when plants were small but it has greatly reduced now that there is more of a canopy in there...I have noticed though that algae grows really well under this light for some reason...I read that algae wont really hurt your plants though as long as its in small amounts...thats all I have is small amounts!!:dance: :smokin:

Thanks for all the possitive vibes peeps!! May the grow Gods bless you ALL!!!

madk

10-26-2006, 10:20 PM

I have been reading the whole post for a while, now. It is exactly the kind of post i've been looking for. I've been searching for a heatless alternative light source, i need a sleek and contemporary closet (inside-out), noiseless with ease control over the climate and a great yield producer. My only problem was the light source, until i discovered the t5s. I am sure the plants adore an enviroment free of the harmful IR radiaton of the HPS. Nowdays you see that fluoros are starting to be efficient enough. Considering the past and all the up to date developments, i believe that next generation fluoros will definetely be better than HIDs in any way.
I am just about to build my happy-closet, so tico you cant imagine how much i wait your ladies to groooow and how much i will n'joy their maturity!
Great job man, thumbs up.
Personally, i will add some CO2 juice as well on my setup. hehe ;)

Something else, i do not recommend the standar aquarium fixtures (like the expensive and beautiful TEK Light) because of the absense of intermediate reflectors in between the lamps. Light is not distributed evenly downwards and a lot of it is wasted in and around the lamps.

Tico, Grow them, until you Blow them!

TroutBuds

10-26-2006, 11:19 PM

I'm not sure what to say. I've been following this thread for a few days now as PTS has implied I've wondered about the legitimacy of this grow myself. When I saw the "*uck8 you* paperwork I thought it was pretty convincing. My problem now is the rapid growth over a 3 day period. On 10/23/06 Tico said "heres some more pics...these were taken this morning....". On 10/25/06 Tico said "here goes today's pic...". How bout giving us the same angle shots each day. While writing this response I spent a good amount of time going back and forth between pictures. Blowing them up to full size and trying to tell if I could see if the plants could grow that much in 2 days. Not blown up there seems to be a big difference in the buds but closer up I can't tell. Maybe different angles. If this is a true grow, with the amount of bud you've got on your plants, you better not rely on the T-5. I already see light missing near the bottom and that will allow for a lesser harvest in the end. Maybe put some of those lights on the side.. I'm new to the forum but have been growing for 15 years and am having a hard time believing this could be true. I guess I'll just stay tuned.

HighOnPottery

10-27-2006, 12:52 AM

I already see light missing near the bottom and that will allow for a lesser harvest in the end.

Would this be fixed by the use of mylar on the walls? I am also interested in the performance of this fixture. Reflectors between the bulbs would definitely be a better performer than one without.

Garden Knowm

10-27-2006, 06:02 AM

The case is officialy opened.. I love a good case.. I got my hat and pipe out for this ONE!!

Are these the pictures in question..?

or shall I say, are these our pieces of evidence....

LET US TAKE A LOOK!!!!!

Mr. TROUT

You are questiong weather a plant can grow this much in 2-3 days?
It does not seem like to much growth to me.. The top angel just is not as revealing....

....

case open

let the pundits speak!!!

iloveyou

BlueBear

10-27-2006, 06:14 AM

Hmm, elamentary my dear GK. LOL.
With using CO2 with the T5's, you may run into some dificulties, wonder why, can anyone guess the answer?
We will see in the next chapter.
Adieu

Buddahbear

10-27-2006, 10:50 AM

What? they're Bad with Co2?

jamstigator

10-27-2006, 11:16 AM

Because you can't isolate the light/heat with an air-cooled hood or cooltube, which means you need to have your ventilation system running more often, which will suck out the co2 along with the heat, defeating the purpose. Well, I guess theoretically you *could* build one huge honking 'cooltube' for that T5 system, but it'd be enormous, and way difficult.

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 11:57 AM

Hi guys...Im glad to see that everyone has taken a liking to this thread...I am using the grow T5 not the aquarium t5...better reflection... I can see why everyone thinks these plants arent for real...the growth from this light is incredible I do admit!! For that aexact reason is why I satrted this thread...Believe me I would tell my buddy everyday that his new light sucked and that my HPS were gonna be a better yield...we ended getting about the same yield and in my opinion his plants looked a lo nicer...So I am posting my grow step by step so that all can see...

My plants are forming a hedge which is pretty hard to be penetrated by light...We chopped a ton of leaves yesterday to open the plants up a bit...Im sure they will filll in nice...Im not to worried about the bottow dwellers anyway...I will be putting mylar on the walls next grow...Im sure that will help a little!

Im not to sure on the CO2 thing....these light dont emit that much heat where the extraction fan is on all day..im sure I could turn the fans off while running co2...

To all the thread readers...feel free to put me to the test...I will answer any question or doubt you might have about these plants!!

Pass me the lighter my Dear Watson!!:pimp:

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 12:10 PM

Today's Pics

jamstigator

10-27-2006, 12:13 PM

I think you'd find those lights put out a lot more heat than you think they do. They seem cool(er) because the heat is generated over a much larger area, whereas with HID lights it comes from a very small area. They might even generate MORE heat than an HID, I don't know. They use more power (compared to a 400-watt HID light), and generate less light, so that reduced efficiency and extra power usage is being turned into *something*. If it's not light, and it's not matter, then what else could it be but heat?

I bet if you sealed up your box tight, and turned off all ventilation, and turned on the light, and did the same thing with a 400-watt HPS light, and used the same starting temperature in both scenarios, that after an hour of the lights being on, the temperature in the box would be comparable. If it's not, then either the laws of physics are being violated, or that energy usage is being turned into something other than light or heat...and I don't know what that could be. If it's matter, then the lights would gain mass over time, and I don't think that happens. Sooo....

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 12:26 PM

That sounds deep and Im stoned...sounds like your right though...Id like to test that...

madk

10-27-2006, 01:37 PM

They use more power (compared to a 400-watt HID light), and generate less light, so that reduced efficiency and extra power usage is being turned into *something*. If it's not light, and it's not matter, then what else could it be but heat?

Do not get confused mate here. Do not compare the efficiency of 2 different systems by subtracting their wattage difference to heat. Other reactions needs to be done in actual-physical level on each lamp type. The energy is used in totally different principles, so any attempt to compare is by definition wrong. Not only light, heat and matter can be present on the equation, as you say.
Fluoro-atoms release light photons when their electrons become excited. In High Intensity Discharge lamps, light is produced by passing a current through a metal vapor. So we talk about different mechanisms here, with different & uncomperable efficiencies.

-HPS produces more heat, more lumens and dirty light.
-T5HO produces less heat, less lumens (yet) and quality light.

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 03:51 PM

Do not get confused mate here. Do not compare the efficiency of 2 different systems by subtracting their wattage difference to heat. Other reactions needs to be done in actual-physical level on each lamp type. The energy is used in totally different principles, so any attempt to compare is by definition wrong. Not only light, heat and matter can be present on the equation, as you say.
Fluoro-atoms release light photons when their electrons become excited. In High Intensity Discharge lamps, light is produced by passing a current through a metal vapor. So we talk about different mechanisms here, with different & uncomperable efficiencies.

-HPS produces more heat, more lumens and dirty light.
-T5HO produces less heat, less lumens (yet) and quality light.

you go boy!!

Green Love

10-27-2006, 04:00 PM

nice setup tic, ur plants need more light tho. they seem a light droopy, or maybe its just me.

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 04:14 PM

i think they look a little droopy due to the fact that we cut back a lot of leaves last night...kinda shocked a little bit...but they are bouncing back!!

jamstigator

10-27-2006, 04:44 PM

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics

Basically, in this context, imagine two exactly identical boxes, completely sealed and 100 percent insulated, except for their power cables. One power cable is 432W and goes into one box. The other power cable is 400W and goes into the other box. Neither box is transforming their respective energy inputs into kinetic energy (e.g., motion, spinning blades, moving turbines, whatever).

The laws of thermodynamics dictate that the 432W box will get hotter, no ifs ands or buts about it. Read the Wiki for an overview of the laws of thermodynamics, or search Wiki for 'Conservation of Energy'.

Now, if that's not the case with a 400-watt HPS light as compared to a 432watt (or whatever) Teklight -- if the heat output isn't greater -- then there must be a reason for that to be so that does not violate the laws of thermodynamics, especially the law of Conservation of Energy, which to date has been deemed irrefutable. The only way I can think of how that could be is if the Teklights have significantly more moving parts than HPS lights (moving parts would transform some of the incoming energy into kinetic energy, rather than light or heat -- small fans for example, do they have fans in them?). That would also explain why they generate less light for more energy - some energy would be diverted into kinetic energy. Otherwise, I have no explanation if they are, in fact, cooler.

madk

10-27-2006, 07:15 PM

The laws of thermodynamics dictate that the 432W box will get hotter, no ifs ands or buts about it. Read the Wiki for an overview of the laws of thermodynamics, or search Wiki for 'Conservation of Energy'.

Fluorescent tubes operate on a completely different principle from the metal halide systems. Whereas the metal halide system relies on light emission from thermal characteristics, the fluorescent system operates through the principles of electron flow and photo-phosphorescence.

To put it in simple words, a metal halide system obey blindly the Kelvin-Planck Statement (systems have a tendency to increase their entropy - heat transformation content). It is a very dirty IR emitter because its principle of operation relies in the increase of entropy itself thus the production of heat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics

The Fluorescents tube vacuum is evacuated (only a small amount of vaporized mercury is added to the tube and an argon stabilizer). That allows the free flow of electrons in vacuum (if you prefer the KINETIK energy of electrons inside a minimum resistive medium - less friction).
Heat in the fluorescent system is a byproduct of two processes:
1. It is produced by the ballasts through the flow of current in its resistive transformers capacitors and other components.
3. Energy is also lost when the fast moving electrons colide with the mercury vapor atoms and the stabilizer. That way, the electrical flow is downgraded to atomic kinetik energy (if you prefer the gentle heat that is emitted from the tubes).

Energy is, also, lost due to Electromagnetic fields that escape from the ballast in the 3D space around. (a factor of the ballasts efficiency)
A complex electronic system with various energy transformations cannot be compared by definition with a dedicated heat production machine (if you prefer, experiment to prove the Kelvin-Planck Statement) like the metal halide systems.

So, back to post #157: Not only light, heat and matter can be present on the equation, as you say!

rustafa

10-27-2006, 07:24 PM

Shit who needs a university... I got a PHD in pot growing lol

ticoblunts

10-27-2006, 08:33 PM

get on with your badself madk

Buddahbear

10-27-2006, 10:05 PM

I have to disagree with jamstigator, because if what you said was true than you couldn't hang your fluorescents within inches of plants (which you can.)

Run your fans and your CO2 system on a timer so the fans turn off (except for an oscillating) when the CO2 Turns on, I somehow highly doubt you'll have significant heat problems from turning the vents off for an hour a day to give your plants CO2.

Lookin' good Tico! Can't wait to see how much bud you get.

BlueBear

10-28-2006, 12:41 AM

Quick blip in here, CO2 may work, but with a few considerations, the CO2 is most efficient when in the higher temps, above 95F is nice, the needed level of photo synthesis from using T5's is questionable on weather there is enough to make an efficient use of the CO2. There is an argument on weather or not even a 400W HPS can generate enough photo synthesis in the plant to make the use worth the attempt. When you get to using 600w and 1K, the idea is if your not using CO2 then you are just wasting light productivity.
Well, on another note, the dialog on wattage use and heat put is nice and very informed, and let me throw a question or two out there. Jam I like you and am just stirring the waters a little. It seems like many other factors besides wattage can contribute to heat and out put, for instance, a 1K HPS and a 1K MH are going to use the same wattage, but will have a significant difference in heat output. Also in the area of wattage usage, the electronic balase verses a coil based one will perform with the same wattage, but the electronic/digital will be able to consume less energy because of the efficiency of the ballasts ability to generate and use power in the various ways. Just some food for thought.

Now on to the case at hand, as I pulled in some vanilla smoke threw a cob pipe this morning while sitting upon my thrown I pondered the facts of this compelling case and attempted to weigh out both sides of the argument and as I did that, Like a light bulb a thought hit me. We may have a motive, being that the defendant is a covert salesmen for the product in question, but what would be the method in which he is attempted to bamboozle and mislead the jury? I mean, does he take all the plants out every other day and place them in another area? Under an HPS? Wouldn't they out grow the T5 set up and have to be trained. Does he move the arrow cloner for each picture? Seems like quite allot of work IMO.
Well, perhaps the prosecution will make a rebuttal and shed light on these facts in question.
Adieu

Harry Pot Head

10-28-2006, 01:52 AM

U know just a foot note, I saw the T5 lamps on a CSI episode a couple months ago!! they found a grow room full of these lights!!

T5's are also used to light up sound stages as well for movie makeing.

So it would be a good light to use for the set since the movie company already has them :cool:

rustafa

10-28-2006, 05:16 AM

OK well if he is lying he has me bought top reasons why!!!!

I previously asked him if he thought the results he was getting was due to the lights he replied "no i think its due to the nutrients i use"
someone asked him if the lights they found was the same as his but it wasnt from the same place and tico said those are the same thing and told him to get it so unless he fabricates these lights he didnt care where the person got them from
also if you think hps works better for you then use it no one is forcing no one to use ne thing

just my 2 cents at least:dance:

Buddahbear

10-28-2006, 05:40 AM

Yeah I know! He never once said "YOU GUYS SHOULD TRY IT OUT!" If anything it's just a mild plug of a new type of grow light he was getting great results with. You guys are fucking paranoid, leave the brotha the fuck alone!

Pass That Shit

10-28-2006, 01:46 PM

Guess who's back? Back again. Pass That's back, tell a friend...

Tico, where did you get the lights?

Specialitylights.com or your friend?

It seems that most people overlooked when tico posted the "FUCK OFF PASS THAT SHIT" pics. It was a clever way to avoid the challenge. If you go back and read the specific request I made, you will see that tico DID NOT follow through.

Go Tico :thumbsup:

ticoblunts

10-28-2006, 02:20 PM

i got mine from specialty lights...might not have met your requests but im sure people got a kick out of it!! Yo im putting no gun to anyone's head...ea person is free to buy or not buy what the please...this light just so happens to wk very well for me...and on a personal note, all this bickering about these plants not being for real just makes me feel better with my grow because to tell you the truth I was still weary of its results... The fact that everyone keeps thinking im using some other light just tells me that my plants look just as good or even better than they were under a HPS !! Like I said in my past posts...I dont have to prove anything to anyone...you believe what you wanna believe!!

ticoblunts

10-28-2006, 02:31 PM

VOYAGER

10-28-2006, 05:33 PM

All this bickering. What do you want tico to do, throw his lights out and give up. I thought this site was for sharing our same passion for the hobby, not critisizing eachother. Hell i use flourecents, Lets here all the trash about how crappy they are compared to hps & such. If the t5's are working for you then have all the fun you want with them tico. I thought your setup was pretty neat. The only other thing i can say is ignore all energy but positive energy, cause all the arguing just keeps fueling the fire.

rustafa

10-28-2006, 06:13 PM

I got your back TICO :thumbsup: you helped me out with some info so your ok in my book.:thumbsup:

ticoblunts

10-28-2006, 10:47 PM

I think the bickering makes this thread fun!! I especially like to hear people talk about the fact that these plants are all hype!! je je je Bring it on is all I have to say!!

Trivium

10-28-2006, 11:12 PM

I think the bickering makes this thread fun!! I especially like to hear people talk about the fact that these plants are all hype!! je je je Bring it on is all I have to say!!

hey tb, hows it goin man??

Hahaha I cant believe this shit man, anyway keep it up man half of these people are probably just upset people.

ticoblunts

10-28-2006, 11:22 PM

hey there trivium...we have a couple of grower haters but Im feeling a lot of possitive vibes!! thanks man!!

Buddahbear

10-28-2006, 11:51 PM

Tico you know a bit about aeroponics right? What do you think of my simple ultrasonic fogger clone machine set up? (See pics)
I got my idea from the nutramist cloners/ultrasonic foggers.
I plan on having the bottoms of rockwool cuttings exposed to the humidity/fog. Using mild nutrients, superthrive and h202 in the fog solution. Would it be OK to have it going continuously or should I get it on a timer?

Your input would be greatly appreciated!

PS: Your Plants are looking stupendous! Can't wait to see what the final harvest is like.

ticoblunts

10-29-2006, 03:34 AM

Garden Knowm

10-29-2006, 08:43 PM

LOVE TICO LOVE

more pictures!!

: )

ticoblunts

10-29-2006, 08:45 PM

:D hey GK thanks brotha...right back at ya!! As soon as I get home I will try and get some more pics posted!! :dance: :stoned:

ticoblunts

10-30-2006, 12:42 PM

heres some pics taken 2day!!

TheGreenFog

10-30-2006, 01:51 PM

Excellent, Tico. What week of bloom are you on now? 4 or 5?

Very nice pics. Those T5 lights are looking better & better. :D

TGF

ticoblunts

10-30-2006, 02:31 PM

Hey there GreenFog:pimp:!! If Im not mistaken these plants are 28days into flowering...still a while to go :dance: I think they look pretty good for their age. Tomorrow they get a water change so that will give them a nice jolt of energy!!

I was looking at a thread on here about excelofizz co2 tabs...Im thinking about using these on the next grow...any reader of this thread have personal experience with this product? I really dont want to invest in a big co2 setup!!

Im glad you like the pics and plants TGF!! Good Smokes to you my man !!

TheGreenFog

10-30-2006, 04:06 PM

Yea, 4 weeks. Looks about right. Better than mine at 4 weeks, but of course, you are using those kickass T5 lights! :D Hehe. Well, some of mine are starting week 6 and the others are starting week 4. Had a tragedy the other night...broke a stalk. Will post about it in my thread. You'll hafta come check it out. We don't have cool T5 lights, but got lots of CFLs and 400w HPS.

About the CO2, I don't know anything about those tabs, but I have heard of them. Seems to me that CO2 is best administered through the air, but who knows, maybe those tabs will work. The other thing is the heat factor. I know you had almost a whole page talking about this before, so I won't ramble. But isn't CO2 best utilized in higher temps?

TGF

ticoblunts

10-30-2006, 04:22 PM

yeah actually i did read that Co2 is better used in higher temps...im such a stoner je je je...ive been following your thread for while now...what a journal!! je je je

TheGreenFog

10-30-2006, 04:43 PM

Thanks, man. Yea, gotta love pics. I just looked back on the first page of mine. Whoa...what a change since then. SO much foliage...I can remember when 13 plants (seedlings) fit VERY nicely in our wittle veg room. LOL. Oh how they grow. :D

TGF

orangeman

10-30-2006, 08:53 PM

Wow, you're using that for the whole grow and those buds are looking good for the light you're using...I might just buy that one light and see how it goes for me lol.

ticoblunts

10-31-2006, 12:39 AM

I didnt believe it myself when I saw what my buddy's results were!!

ticoblunts

10-31-2006, 07:31 PM

Starting to show lots of crystal content!!

orangeman

10-31-2006, 08:53 PM

That's looking damn nice. How long has it been flowering for now?

TheGreenFog

10-31-2006, 10:44 PM

I think he said 28 days yesterday. :thumbsup:

NICE plants, Tico.

I know those lights are very good, but it also has a lot to do with the hydroponics system, and the dialed-in nutes. Right, Tico?

Anyway, good sh*t. I wanna see what you yeild off that. Looks like it's gonna be about 2, maybe 3 oz per plant. and you have 6 or 8 plants? I can't remember. Nice. That's 12-24 ounces. :eek:

Keep us posted with the pics.

Thanks for the comment you left in my thread...........not. LOL j/k.

:rasta: :thumbsup:

TGF

BlueBear

10-31-2006, 11:55 PM

Are those CO2 tablets for folyer spray? If not and they are for the soil, they might not really do anything, roots like O2 and the greenery likes and needs the CO2. But I havn't looked them up, just something to keep in mind.
Keep up the good work.
Adieu

rustafa

11-01-2006, 06:27 AM

I have a quick question for all the light wiz's dont know if this makes any sense or not but why not ask it you know? If you have a HPS lights which generates more heat means you have to place this light farther from the the plant correct? Now if you have one of these light setup's you can place the lights 3" from the top of the plants. I dont know if lumens disperde pending on the distance it is from the plant but doesnt this light setup have more of an advantage compared to a HPS becasue it has to be farther.

Ex. 400HPS = IDK lets say 50,000 lumens but has to be 12" from the plant
Ex. T5 = IDK lets say 20,000 lumens but can be placed 3" from the plant

now you have twice the amount of lumens but your also 4 times closer to the plants then you would be with the HPS .

p.s. like i said i dont know if this makes any sense but seemed like an interesting question to me so pls let me know thanxz

Garden Knowm

11-01-2006, 06:37 AM

Hi RUSTA

ventilation and temp control is KEY.. when it comes to using HPS lighting..

you are correct.. it is basically a joke to be using HPS lighting and then have it 12+ inches from your foliage (there are exceptions)... it looses 1/2 of its lumens every 12 inches.. YIKES!!!!

BUT it is very possible to have 400-1000 watt HPS bulbs 2-12 inches from your foliage.. and grow some fore arm size NUGS

and NOW you KNOWM

Buddahbear

11-01-2006, 10:03 PM

Tico those buds are looking so delicious!
I'm so happy to see these things produce nice buds as well as nice vegetation!

rustafa

11-01-2006, 10:21 PM

hey tico from what i see in your pics you have 8 bulbs? if so that only generates 400w ?

ticoblunts

11-03-2006, 12:51 AM

Buddahbear: these buds do look great!! Still a while to go and things are looking just as they should be!!

Rustafa: 8 bulb system thats correct...the place i got them said 434w i think(little high here)...i will go and check on that for you and let you know...

ticoblunts

11-03-2006, 12:55 PM

Heres some pics taken today!! 33 days I think im gonna have an albhino bud...some wierd shit...you will see that on one of the babies thers some leaves with no pigmentation...the fan leaf that i removed from that side was also 95% white!! I thought that it would be just that fan leaf but it looks like the next leaves are the same abd the bud hairs seem to be whiter!! I guess its a fenomenom of nature!

Smoke on people!! Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly!!

Buddahbear

11-03-2006, 04:19 PM

how much you think you're gonna get? QP HP?

ticoblunts

11-03-2006, 05:27 PM

shit i wish i knew....i dont like to count my chickens till they hatch...Ill let you guys take a guess at it though!!

Buddahbear

11-03-2006, 05:49 PM

Hehe, kind of like an illegal version of "guess the candy corns" :D

ticoblunts

11-03-2006, 10:13 PM

guess the crystal coated buds

Skiing Arab

11-04-2006, 12:16 AM

Looking sweet man, looks like a sativa dominant strain to me

ticoblunts

11-05-2006, 07:38 PM

Looking sweet man, looks like a sativa dominant strain to me

You might be right...I know I have several strains in there!! I tell you one thing though...Im a happy camper!!

ticoblunts

11-06-2006, 01:17 PM

This next set of pics is dedicated to Pass That Shit...Thanks for always doubting me!! JE JE JE;) :cool:

cactusman23

11-06-2006, 04:37 PM

nice thread, its a very interesting read, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

Buddahbear

11-07-2006, 01:44 AM

Who doesn't love bud forrests? :-D
I think my Ideal grow would be a room powered by solar panels powering about 8 8 light 4 footers like you got.

rustafa

11-07-2006, 03:02 AM

how are the bottom buds doing doesnt seem like to much light is getting through the bottom? pics is always a plus.. but goddam those plants look nice

howsyourroof

11-07-2006, 04:09 AM

that shit is love.me and a friend are trying to put together money for led grow experement

ticoblunts

11-07-2006, 04:08 PM

cactus; Thanks man !! Kepp checking back for the final results of this thread !!

buddahbear; You just gotta love a forrest full of budsssss...That has to be the best idea I have heard yet!! Fuckin great idea man!! Solar panels are kinda expensive though!! I'll leave that for when I build my own house!!

rustafa; the bottom buds dont get too much light...I had to trim back the leaves today in order to let some light into the canopy!! I think these plants do look pretty good though...I myself still cant believe Im getting all this from a "fluoro".

howsyourroof; Thanks brotha!! Good luck on your grow!!
p.s my roof is great!!

Thanks to all the readers!! Im catching the ++ vibes down here in the CR!!

rustafa

11-08-2006, 02:26 AM

BlueBear

11-08-2006, 07:37 AM

How long untill harvest?
Good log
Adieu

Pass That Shit

11-09-2006, 03:20 AM

Thanks for dedicating those pics to me :D

When you're done, I will ask you to PASS THAT SHIT :thumbsup:

It's too bad you didn't get to document your grow from the start :confused:

I guess the grow gods don't have good timing :pimp:

ticoblunts

11-09-2006, 06:19 PM

heres todays pics!! Im about 39 or 40 days in flowering!!

ticoblunts

11-09-2006, 07:33 PM

yes i couldnt concord with you more that looks amazing for a floro grow and watching this post your going to make me buy the same exact one you got just two questions even though i know you must have answered them before in previos posts.

1. how far can you keep the lights away from the top of your plants.
2. what kind of bulbs did you use for the whole grow or did you use different bulbs for veg and flower.
3. did those start from seedling or where they clones.
4. do you think the plants would be better with those lights if you toped them a couple times.
5. does your closet stay closed or open thoughout the day
6.can i have some of those tasty treats : )

p.s. sorry bout all the questions just tring to get this down to a T.

RUSTAFA; Hey there buddy! Ask away!! Im glad to help!!

1. They say that these light can be 3-6 in from your plants...During veg I kept my lights 1 1/2 in from the tops...now that they are in budding 3in or so...not really because of heat but better distribution of light...Note: you will have to move this lamp several times a day during veg..so watch out....even if you forget there not much to worry about!! You should only recieve minor burns!!

2. The grow shops sell this light with your choice of lamp...cool white or warm red...i went warm red the whole way!!

3. These babies were from clone....My buddy that has the clone room slacked off a little and fucked up the nutes at the begging and stressed the babies out...when i got the they had purple stripes on their stalk!! I worked some magic though, of course with the help of the grow gods!!

4. Yes!! Remember that this is my first hands on experience with this light, therefore have to tweak it a little bit!! Im either pinching the next round or using a screen!! Still trying to decide!! I am defintley cutting all bottom branches on the next round!!

5. My closet remains closed the majority of the day!! (my GF says the system makes too much noise! I actually like the sound!!) I have a large exaust fan in the window leading to the backyard. When I close the door this fan sucks the clean air from the room from under the door!! So if you think about it no smell escapes!! When the fan goes off at 6pm you would think a skunk just came and took his daily piss!!

6. Yeah man let me fax them to you!! (Hey moderators that was a JOKE!!)

BLUEBEAR; HMMM not sure yet!! Id say I have about another two weeks to go!!

PassThatShit; YOUR WELCOME!! Yeah Im SURE youll be askin to PassThatShit!! Just keep your notebook handy, there's some schoolin going on here!! :pimp: yeah sorry I couldnt meet YOUR expectations there!! I will on the next I PROMISE!! The grow GODS have great timing...U just forgot to factor in the earthly stoner factor!! For ex. We all know that the Higher Ups gave us 4:20 as the sacred time of the day BUT we ALL also know that 4:20 really converts into 4:21 due to the fact that a TRUE stoner is ALWAYS late!!:dance:

MUCH LOVE TO ALL READERS!! GROW ON!! (UNLESS U ARE DEA , IF SO FUCK OFF!!these guys in the legal threads get a brother a little paranoid!!)

orangeman

11-09-2006, 09:07 PM

heres todays pics!! Im about 39 or 40 days in flowering!!

Wow, those bud's seem to be coming along really well. I just can't wait to see the harvest day pics lol. Those looks so good I think I'm going to try and use that same light except for a soil grow. If I get results like that or better I might just keep that light instead of buying a HPS :).

Buddahbear

11-10-2006, 02:46 PM

That's one crystally bud! I wonder if you used about 10 of these lights in a large scale grow room if it would be good... I think the lack of heat would be really nice. I guess you could use those yo-yo light lifts to make the maintenence a little easier.

I think if your plants were al the same strain they would all be more evenly closer to the light. Especially if you used a sea of green from the same mother they'd all be set distance from the lamp and get even distribution.

The electricity bill seems better aswell.

Taiden

11-22-2006, 09:00 PM

Funny story:
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TheGreenFog

11-23-2006, 04:20 AM

Funny story:
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^I don't get it...:confused:

Tiiiiiiiiiicccccccoooooooooo.....!!!!!

Where'd you go? :(

Well, hope you come back and finish the log. It SUCKS when people dissapear in the middle of a log. Well, we're waiting...:D:D:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

deeprinter

11-23-2006, 04:43 AM

How long is your light and how many bulbs?

TheGreenFog

11-23-2006, 04:54 AM

How long is your light and how many bulbs?

Dude...seriously?

:confused:

Please read the thread. You used your first post for that??

Welcome to Cannabis.com, by the way! :D:D

:rastasmoke:

TGF

Pass That Shit

12-09-2006, 02:43 AM

Tico, give us some more of that LOVE. :jointsmile:

Garden Knowm

12-09-2006, 03:49 PM

Tico, give us some more of that LOVE. :jointsmile:

YES PLEASE

Flower Child

12-09-2006, 05:09 PM

:D Just Funnin'

Garden Knowm

12-13-2006, 10:33 PM

Flower child.. details about that BUD.. please..

thank you

TheGreenFog

12-14-2006, 12:29 AM

I just saw that bud again. Damn, man. I was thinking the same thing about that when you first posted it. Got a shot of the plant alive?

:rastasmoke:

TGF

VOYAGER

12-15-2006, 05:59 AM

Dude where did Tico go? I really wanted to see the outcome of this grow.
I hear ya GK, does he have a thread that shows the grow that produced that monster.

Flower Child

12-15-2006, 06:22 AM

C'mon guys that pic's ben around the net for years...
I took it off CW three years ago....
It was a Aussy "krusty style" grow with like six vertical 1000's... if I'm not mistaken...
I must admit I have the pic on my wall...
The one below are mine... a balcony and Green house... back in the day
FC

Garden Knowm

12-15-2006, 06:02 PM

LOL... nice DOG.. bow wow...
back inthe day huh?

Well they look freaking NICE...
cubes and perlite.......

looks like you got FAT yields....

ALso looks like a very nice dwelling!!!

thanks for the photos...

ticoblunts

12-30-2006, 04:24 PM

Hi Guys!! Im back!! Sorry I dissapeared in the last stretch of things....had some problems with the owner of my house had to move out!! Its not easy when you have some babies finishing up their budding process...and to top it off my computer got a virus from an email...On a more possitive note I cropped a total of 5.75 oz bone dry and full of crystals. Real good high!!This light has really convinced me!! Im sorry I was unable to post the final pics...I lost all my grow pics with this virus...Im sure I can do better on this next grow...Im using strictly Fox Farms products throughout the whole grow, this time around I have snipped the Tops once and I let them veg for one month. I have some nize little bushes this time around...With this light I defintely recomend pinching the tops to take fulla dvantage of the light spectrum... I will post pics of the new grow later on today!!

Thanks for all the possitive vibes!!

orangeman

12-30-2006, 04:36 PM

Wow. Lol I knew something happened. I'd be proud to show the flowering days of my plants :). Sorry about the virus and the house thing man. And I'd be more than satisfied with 5 oz! :stoned:. That light really works. I can't wait to see your next grow :hippy:.

ticoblunts

12-31-2006, 12:16 AM

OK here we go again!! Im growing 6 LSD by BOG clones...they are all from the same mother and have all been topped at about 3 weeks of age...pinched only once...I have been snipping back leaves along the way in order to allow light to get to bud spots...they have been under the t5 (red spectrum bulbs) 18hrs a day for about one month and a week so far...

As far as nutes im using Fox Farms-Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz and Cha Ching...Following the instructions on their website to the T...No signs of burning so far!!

Yesterday I discovered a Costa Rican hydro store and I decided to pick up a couple plants for a salad...you can see in the pics the two lettuce and three tomatoe plants that I purchased...

ticoblunts

12-31-2006, 12:38 AM

Picture limit...heres a couple more pics...

Pass That Shit

12-31-2006, 05:26 AM

LOL!!! :confused:

ticoblunts

12-31-2006, 01:37 PM

Hey Pass That...im glad to see your still around...LMAO...yo maing Im gonna cut another leaf for you just so you can notarize this post as real !!

Garden Knowm

01-01-2007, 02:47 AM

nice recovery tico!!!!

ticoblunts

01-01-2007, 06:18 AM

thanks brah!!

DaBoyWeb

01-02-2007, 02:21 AM

nice grow what strand are you runnin?

ticoblunts

01-02-2007, 01:58 PM

hey DaBoy these are all clones of on mother...LSD by BOG seeds!!

ticoblunts

01-07-2007, 01:21 PM

Ok fellas here we go...I took these pictures yesterday while cloning and switching to 12/12...today is the official beggining of their budding cycle...I chopped off all of the bottom sucker on the plant leaving just the tops...hopefully i will end up with plants that look like a bouquet of roses je je je je...Remember that I snipped the tops on these babies...I think that is the best way to go with the T5 lamp...

ticoblunts

01-07-2007, 01:26 PM

Hey Pass That Shit...this buds for you!! Now you see the leaf...Now you dont...

JunkYard

01-10-2007, 03:44 AM

I just decided on my system.. ..Thank you tico! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great looking grow/s, man! I much enjoyed this thread!

I think I'm going with the tek T5 8 lamp model, and using the 3000k warm lights for flower, and the 6500k for my veg stage. This is a cheaper setup then what I had planned, and the results are pretty frakin great too.

I may eventually upgrade to a HPS, but if I do, I can still use this fixture for supplemental light and get even better results. Whew! Im glad I came across this thread, man.

Thank you again!

Junk~:smokin:

ticoblunts

01-10-2007, 05:09 PM

Hey JunkYard...im glad this thread could help in your decision...Im sure you will be very happy with your results all the way through harvest...I do recomend to snip the tops at least once when using this light for flowering...i am still getting it all down pat but im sure that this light can produce just like the big HPSs and MHs...on the next run i might be using some CO2....keep checking back for more pics...

I hope everyone is enjoying some good smoke while they reading this post!!:rastasmoke:

Much Love to All !!

I just decided on my system.. ..Thank you tico! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Great looking grow/s, man! I much enjoyed this thread!

I think I'm going with the tek T5 8 lamp model, and using the 3000k warm lights for flower, and the 6500k for my veg stage. This is a cheaper setup then what I had planned, and the results are pretty frakin great too.

I may eventually upgrade to a HPS, but if I do, I can still use this fixture for supplemental light and get even better results. Whew! Im glad I came across this thread, man.

Thank you again!

Junk~:smokin: