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mdoggy004
10-06-2006, 02:00 AM
Is burning weed with a lighter the same thing as heating up buds to a super hott temp with red hot knives??


and


i find it funny how where ever i go people always know about white lighters being unlucky so dont buy them... does everybody know that? has anyone ever heard of that

silasbotwin
10-06-2006, 02:01 AM
yeah it's the same cuz knives just get that hot. and i've heard of yellow lighters being bad.

huh
10-06-2006, 02:05 AM
white lighters are bad luck! a whole bunch of people i know got arrested and all of them at white lighters. when i got arrested i had a white lighter on me. they are bad luck.

rebgirl420
10-06-2006, 02:10 AM
I dunno I only use bics to smoke, just a habit

smokeblunts3
10-06-2006, 02:11 AM
ummmm no? when you burn the weed it makes smoke when you put red hot knives to buds wouldn't that just make the buds hot? lol whats the point of that unless your a dumbass and trying to dry it that way


and yes white lighters are bad luck no explanation they just are

rebgirl420
10-06-2006, 02:20 AM
Mine are always black...ever since my first hit when I was 12 to now.

smokeblunts3
10-06-2006, 02:30 AM
i only carry bic lighters with me there the best lighter as long as it ain't a white one fuck those 99cent piece of shit lighters that fall apart after lighting it 2 times bics last till no more gas:D

rebgirl420
10-06-2006, 02:33 AM
ha what about those cylinder lighters that are like, 30 cents at Sunoco and BP. Every time I flick one I jump back 2 feet cuz im afraid its gonna blow my freakin arm off.

funky not a junky
10-06-2006, 02:38 AM
Yea i noticed that white lighters blow...everytime i have used them now that i think about it the sesh has been bad or dry...

pollardfreek
10-06-2006, 04:03 AM
ummmm no? when you burn the weed it makes smoke when you put red hot knives to buds wouldn't that just make the buds hot? lol whats the point of that unless your a dumbass and trying to dry it that way


and yes white lighters are bad luck no explanation they just are

Ummmm, when you act like you know what you're talking about when you actually don't, YOU'RE the one who looks like a dumbass. The fact is, kniving is more efficient than lighters. The knives bring the weed to the lowest temperature necessary to release the THC, kind of like a vape.

Juggnoxalo
10-06-2006, 05:32 AM
Flick your Bic (and it must be red)

OregonsDank
10-06-2006, 05:50 AM
ummmm no? when you burn the weed it makes smoke when you put red hot knives to buds wouldn't that just make the buds hot? lol whats the point of that unless your a dumbass and trying to dry it that way


and yes white lighters are bad luck no explanation they just are

...

If you smoke using butane, you inhale butane, all that fluid doesnt go into thin air :P Well I guess the thin air you are inahling into your lungs.

A vaporizer or knifehit would be a cleaner hit, infact a good knife hit leaves behind brown worthless nugget that has been stripped of its goodies, you can throw that junk away and save your lungs the tar!

Also when taking a knife hit.. the smoke is boom , burned, then instantly sucked into your lungs, so the time from combustion to inhaling is very very minimal - I know bong hits get stale rather fast so this must be more effective :P Just burns thru alot of weed since you dont get as many " hits " per gram. But you still get all the THC and other goodies.

ps. Just use matches if you burn your weed with flame - let the sulphur burn off first though :P joints are also a cleaner method.

led.zeppelin
10-06-2006, 06:44 AM
White lighters are the same as any other colour lighter, no need to be racist towards lighters now. I use an colour lighter

enthused
10-06-2006, 07:25 AM
ummmm no? when you burn the weed it makes smoke when you put red hot knives to buds wouldn't that just make the buds hot? lol whats the point of that unless your a dumbass and trying to dry it that way


and yes white lighters are bad luck no explanation they just are


lol yeah.........im guessing you've never done a knife hit

50BagOfGreens
10-06-2006, 12:36 PM
white lighters are bad luck! a whole bunch of people i know got arrested and all of them at white lighters. when i got arrested i had a white lighter on me. they are bad luck.

white lighters i was told, have little devils inside them:p

ganjafreak33
10-06-2006, 04:14 PM
white lighters are bad news. I've known this since high school and now I'm 33. A friend of mine got a DUI with a white lighter and got busted for weed by cops when he had a white lighter. I'm not a superstitious person but I won't go near those things.

T®auma
10-06-2006, 04:28 PM
It all depends on where you live. Here in indiana RED lighters are bad luck. I was in cali and Whites were bad luck.

phoenix
10-06-2006, 06:51 PM
Yeah, whites are bad around here. I had one for about a week, and I was thinking how it was actually going good and maybe it's bullshit about how they're bad luck....and I spun off the road into a ditch. I threw it away from me, and some random guys came in a heavy duty pickup and a tow cable they had just bought.

Last time I ever use a white lighter.

johnnyAKABob
10-06-2006, 06:56 PM
ummmm no? when you burn the weed it makes smoke when you put red hot knives to buds wouldn't that just make the buds hot? lol whats the point of that unless your a dumbass and trying to dry it that way


and yes white lighters are bad luck no explanation they just are

sooooooooooo someones never done knife hits then? youve managed to make yourself look like quite an idiot really havent you

Pride
10-07-2006, 02:03 AM
fuckin stoners.. repeating arguments over and over and over again... ;)
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=82742

reallybaked
10-07-2006, 02:20 AM
yeah it's the same cuz knives just get that hot. and i've heard of yellow lighters being bad.

Yeah.........that's always been the story around here. Yellow lighters are bad news! :cursing:

usedchemicals
10-07-2006, 02:48 AM
i've always heard that yellow lighters are bad.

i always use either Green, Black, or Purple lighters

dirtysouth870
10-07-2006, 03:55 AM
It all depends on where you live. Here in indiana RED lighters are bad luck. I was in cali and Whites were bad luck.

Yeah, red lighters were considered bad also if someone was with us that had a red lighter, it was thrown out the window

Professor Dan K.
10-07-2006, 04:46 AM
nah red lighters are bad luck, havent you guys ever seen used cars?

green ligheys are where its at though, when i think of green i think happy thoughts :D

i used to have a green/white tie-die colored lighter, it was sick as hell but someone jacked it at a party, i was so pissed

FlyingSalt
10-11-2006, 12:03 AM
Holy shit... Dude, i didnt think about that till now... Me and my friends got busted in a shed with white lighter. : /

pu ekot
10-11-2006, 12:57 AM
...

If you smoke using butane, you inhale butane, all that fluid doesnt go into thin air :P Well I guess the thin air you are inahling into your lungs.

A vaporizer or knifehit would be a cleaner hit, infact a good knife hit leaves behind brown worthless nugget that has been stripped of its goodies, you can throw that junk away and save your lungs the tar!

Also when taking a knife hit.. the smoke is boom , burned, then instantly sucked into your lungs, so the time from combustion to inhaling i very very minimal - I know bong hits get stale rather fast so this must be more effective :P Just burns thru alot of weed since you dont get as many " hits " per gram. But you still get all the THC and other goodies.

ps. Just use matches if you burn your weed with flame - let the sulphur burn off first though :P joints are also a cleaner method.

Well atleast you have tried hotknifing it, unlike half these noobs.

As for the red/yellow/white bad lighters, that's superstition, you can fight that yourselves, I don't give a shit about that nonsense.

As for inhaling the butane? Are you retarded? Because that's the only excuse I can think of for your lack of intelligence. No shit the butane doesn't go into thin air, it's changed in a chemical reaction, making FIRE (and some other shit). Not only is butane NOT a fluid at room temperature (unless under pressure - this is basic physics/chemistry). All of the butane is burned, completely, but there *are* byproducts. "When oxygen is plentiful, butane burns to form carbon dioxide and water vapor: When oxygen is limited, carbon (soot) or carbon monoxide may also be formed.". So you are inhaling carbon dioxide (yuck), and possibly carbon or carbon monoxide. Those are bad things, but it's REALLY not a big deal. As for joints being cleaner, no, that's a lie, the paper's byproducts are definetly worse. Hold up a butane lighter that's burning, there is almost no smoke. Hold up a burning piece of paper, there is smoke. That smoke is mostly carbon, which is not a real good thing to inhale, and some other crap that you would be better off without. A match is even worse than a butane lighter, even after the red phosphurus, potassium chlorate, and sulfide has burned off, the wood makes more nasty byproducts than the butane, and probably than the papers.

So, from a byproducts point of view, best to worst ranking:

1. Vaping/hotknifing, hot air has no byproduct
2. Butane lighter, minimal amounts of carbon dioxide
3. Joints, paper makes carbon(soot) and other shit you don't want
4. Match hits, matches make tons of carbon and other shit

You can go back to your petty superstition wars now, but leave science out of it!

Chronic.Tonic
10-11-2006, 04:39 AM
Inhale butane?! Time for a Organic Chemistry lesson...

Butane: C4H8 (the numbers represent subscripts)

This the the combustion reaction of butane...

C4H8 + O2 ---> CO2 + H2O

As you can very well see. Butane is combusted(burned) in a oqygen rich enviorment and produces carbon dioxide and water. So now my friends smoke in peace and let that myth be put to rest...

P.S. Please note that this equation is not balanced and that several unavoidable by-products have been omitted.

james2theson
10-11-2006, 07:25 PM
holy shit i thought the whole white lighter thing was only with my friends, damn and i live in so cal

Buddha Man
10-12-2006, 02:56 AM
be cool and use matches. nothing says cool like smoking a joint rolled with notebook paper and lighting it with a match!

anyways last time i had a red lighter, i was drunk as heck and i decided to throw a molotov cocktail in the woods. i ran 2 miles home

JustinSKS
10-12-2006, 05:30 AM
I am currently using a GREEN bic lighter. Green like bud :). Also kniving is basically the same as a lighter. Same effect if that's what you mean.

Left
10-12-2006, 05:38 AM
White lighters are believed to be bad because when you use the bottom to pack down the ashes of a burning or semi burned bowl the ash ring is more obvious and pronounced than on any other color lighter. That being said i bet they carry the best chance for the police to charge possession of one as paraphanalia.

HeyItsMe
10-12-2006, 06:21 PM
Huh?, No white lighters used to be bad luck well to me, for 4 years I thought they where bad luck and would avoide smoking with them. But now I dont give a shit, as long as it lights im using a white one right now and have many times. nothing bad happens. But when I do go to buy lighters I never buy a white lighter there just boring to look at.

Domiko
10-13-2006, 02:08 AM
If you hold a white lighter over a bowl in order to block air (while emptying the chamber of your device) repeatedly, the spot on the lighter where it was held tends to turn a yellowish colour. Also, what Left said: when you use a white lighter to pack a burning bowl, the ashes are visible on the bottom. That's why they're "bad luck", or so I'm told.

Most Bic lighters I've owned have had a white bottom anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

I, however, have never found that a white lighter carries any more bad luck than any other colour. I generally use cheap Ronson (refillable) Butane lighters. My store stocks them so I have like a million.

I'm colourblind when it comes to lighters. Fight the power!

pu ekot
10-13-2006, 02:46 AM
Personally I think white anything is a bad choice, considering how any/every thing shows up on it. It's not like it's cheaper to buy a white or anything