still can't figure out my problem.

[budnums]

My plants are still drooping and they are starting to yellow(some near the tip and some around the juction of the veins. I am watering them textbookly, I believe. I transplanted my older (not much older) plants into bigger containers. I know one of them lost a little bit of rooting. But it is still drooping and I just fed it for the first time in a week or so. It was a diluted amount. I am using 20-20-20 in an organic blend of soil.

So, it's not heat, it's not water, it's not nutrients, it's not ventilation...

Could it be the PH, my ph meter sucks and I'm getting a new one in 3-5 days. I think the ph is off.

Please help.

[Zandor]

How old are they and you are feeding them 20-20-20?

And you say't it's not nutrients? Why do you think that?

[budnums]

I guess it still could be anything, but I don't give them a lot of nutes. Just a little bit, every week and a half or so. Should I be giving them more? They are probably almost a month old. It is only the 2nd time I've fed them.

[BlueBear]

You should be feding them a little more depending on the type of nutes. When you say watering them text book way, what do you exactly mean?
Also, were they drooping before the transplant? Did you feed them when you transplanted? They could be underwatered, overwatered or starving.
Adieu

[budnums]

I don't think it's over watered. I water only to the size of the plant. I wait until the soil is completely dry, but not too dry. I am using 20-20-20 nutrients. Yeah, I guess there is no textbook way of watering, except not too much and only when they need it. here are some small pictures. You can't really tell much by how small they are, and b/c of the hps light. My new camera will be here soon!

[Tom Green Thumb]

You are going to have to check the PH properly. It looks to me like a PH problem. Sometimes mixing 2 table spoons of dolomite lime per gallon of soil corrects PH issues, but this should have been done when first transplanted and mixed in with the soil. I don't know if it will be effective now or can even be used now- anyones know or done this before?

TGT

[invision]

looks like a PH problem to me too,when you add nutes it drops your PH and sometimes drops it a whole point on the scale when you add nutes you have to use PH up this can be found in a pet store in the aqaurium section its safe to use.

[bejay]

ive never had a use for ph up ever but generally use ph down you need to check the soil ph for starters and adjust your nutrients or water if your only watering to help keep it within range no way of knowing where your soil ph is without checking it.

[budnums]

Yeah, was definately thinking it was the ph. Thanks for all the help! I ordered a meter a couple days ago. It should be here soon. so, ph up for aquariums is ok to use? I put some wood chips in to raise the ph, because my awful old ph meter said it was low. I don't know if that worked, but I won't do anything else until the meter arrives. Thanks again.

[Tom Green Thumb]

Make sure when you use the PH meter test five or six different area's and depths of the soil and find the average. I have found that different area's sometimes have huge fluctuations in PH so it's best to test a few area's and then calculate to find your result.

That's one of the problems with using soil. In hydro everything can be accurate to the point and things can be dialed in perfectly for each strain you grow. Even so, I find soil much more forgiving and if you are doing it for a cash crop, it's the only way to go. Some will disagree but I have many reasons why, but I won't bore you all to death as I am starting to ramble now and this has nothing to do with this thread. I'm done. Good luck!

TGT

[budnums]

I'll definately take a lot of different readings when the damn thing gets here!!:) Thanks for the info. Mr. Thumb and everyone else. Always a great help.

[crazywill]

Hey Budnums
What kind of water are you watering with,tap or well or distilled?City water has to many things in it that plants dont like.And To high of a PH.You say you got a PH meter and it's not working right,Did you calibrate your meter?
I use distilled water about $0.64 a gal. at wally world,the PH is a 6.0 I test it before I mix in any nutes.Let the water sit about an hour or so after mixing in the nutes and test it.Then you will know what the PH is.
I have a MILWAUKEE P51 PH tester I calibrate it and the meter stays calibrated for a week or longer.But I calibrate every time anyway.
Stickyattic Has a thread about testing your soil and water PH,search the threads and you will find it.She's posts some good infor on the PH of soil and water.I wait till the plants are about 6"to 8" tall before giveing them any nutes and less than 1/4 of the strength and build up slow to full strength.
The plants will take up nutes from the soil first and start growing and than you add some nutes to replace the used up nutes.There kinda like human babys you dont give babys Table food from the start,they drink milk and then baby food and as they grow and get teeth they eat the meat.So if you think of it that way you will grow big healthy plants.
THAT'S MY STORE AND I'AM STICKING TOO IT.