A QUESTION OF LIFE

[RESiNATE]

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE QUESTION?

[LonerStoner]

"why?"

[shadowfox]

Sorry, going OT here.

Just wanted to say hi to Lonerstoner. I was seriously going to put that as my name, and thought it was kinda neat to see somebody else using the name that I was gonna use. So...hi.

[dog420]

The question is.....do you know the answer? lol

Peace

[RESiNATE]

The question is.....do you know the answer? lol

Peace

We'll get to that later, Dog :D....
I'll wait until later, to discuss my theory, but you gotta answer first, as I did asked first! (lol)

Otherwise, it's not fair hehehehe

I am being serious, btw :)

[GHoSToKeR]

the ultime question is......

*drum roll*



























What is 6 multiplied by 7?

[koshea]

the question of life is why do we exist, we are born, and we die, changing the world only to miss the bennifits, we leave a legacy with no meaning becuase after all we are gone, the question is why are we here, what significance do we make to people, we cant change the world, and if we do its only temporary, we live for the moment and when the moments gone we die

[apsinthion]

Acording to my shrink when I was a teenager we are all here to die. It's what you leave behind that matter's.

[Imotep]

Haha u beat me to it GT :D

[RESiNATE]

Ok, sorry everyone, I was going to explain my theories about what the point of life was....but you know what...

This is no point.

There's no point in trying to make a life for yourself, because no matter how hard you try, no mattrer how understanding or compassionate you are, you get fucked in the ass by life. You struggle all week, working your bollocks off, and for what?...Money? ... pride?

I try to exist in a world that doesn't give a fuck about me. Try to understand people who dont hyave a fucking clue about anything other than themselves, and what is in it fir them - fuck the rest of them, they think, as long as I'm alright, fuck em.
And everytime that I think I'm getting somewhere..BAM!...fuck you Res, what gives you the fucking stupid idea that you are meant to be happy?

I dont ask for much, for fucks sake..all I want is a quiet life, pay my way, be as much a father as I'm allowed...but no..I have to struggle every fucking day - struggle with my own mind and it's stupid notion that we are more than we think, struggle to sustain my lonely fucking existence, and struggle to conform to this fucking stupid society that I am cursed to be a part of.

So, you know what? You're all right - life is about what ever you think it is about - if you think that it's about leaving a lagacy, then you're right. If you think that life is about worshipping something that has never been proven to exist, then you're right. If you believe that you make a difference, then you are correct.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you believe that life is about - you'll be right...but it won't make any fucking difference at all - because no matter how hard you try, someone with different beliefs will be bigger than you, and you'll have to live by their beliefs, and to try to break from those beliefs will cause you nothing but pain and misery.

So what s the point of living within a belief system that you neither understand nor agree with?

there is none.

[GHoSToKeR]

someone with different beliefs will be bigger than you, and you'll have to live by their beliefs, and to try to break from those beliefs will cause you nothing but pain and misery.

I was with ya up until that

The thing is, you're right, it doesnt actually matter why we think we're here..

But, i dont understand what you meant by "someone with different beliefs will be bigger than you, and you'll have to live by their beliefs"

I get flamed for my 'beliefs' (or lack of beliefs) all the time.. and there have been alot of people in my life with more authority, over people and myself, there have been people who are better with words, better at explaioning their beliefs, people with "proof" (whatever that means) but my beliefs are exactly that - MY BELIEFS. no one is gonna change my beliefs, for any reason

i remember when i was in secondary school, the head of the school invited 5 of us to have lunch with him in his office, so he could see how we were getting on etc.. then he said he was thinking about makin it mandatory for people to pray at lunchtimes.. i said "what if someone doesnt believe in god?" and his response was "everyone believes in god.. even if they dont think they do" and i said "well, i dont believe in a god, i havent done for years, and theres no way youre gonna make me pray to YOUR god" and you know what he did? he suspended me for 2 months!!! then when i came back to school and was having lunch i noticed that the teachers were makin everyone pray before eating! i refused to pray, and i got kicked out of lunch and put in detention.. it happened the next day - i refused to pray and i got detention, and the head called me to his office and asked why i just wouldnt pray? i told him that i dont believe in god, i never have and never will, and that nothing they do will make me even pretend to believe in god

anyway, i went off on a tandem then :p .. ive just waked and baked so my mind is wondering slightly lol

my point iiiiiissssssssssssss, if you really believe something, or dont believe something, then nothing or no one should or will be able to change that

umm.. what was the question again? oh yeah, ummm.. nope, ive lost it

rock on \m/

[RESiNATE]

So, you prove my point, GHoST!

Someone bigger than you (ie, your headmaster) has different beliefs than you (ie, in God), so you try to break free from those beliefs (ie, telling him that you don't believe in God), which has caused you pain and misery (ie, suspension from school for 2 months).

I rest my case.

[GHoSToKeR]

Someone bigger than you (ie, your headmaster) has different beliefs than you (ie, in God), so you try to break free from those beliefs (ie, telling him that you don't believe in God), which has caused you pain and misery (ie, suspension from school for 2 months).

True, BUT I still kept my beliefs.. I didn't acquiesce because of the pressure from him.. I simply told him how it was, and what I personally believed, and I was punished for it.. So, though I was suspended and had to do detention, I didn't give in and I wasn't in the wrong

To me, sticking to my beliefs is more important than anything else.. If other people want to persacute me for that then it's them that's in the wrong..

**passes Res the joint**

Chill my man

Tell GHoST whats troubling you

:D

[RESiNATE]

The fact of the matter is this.

I had plans for today, indeed my whole life, but each time that I try to realise those plans, something comes along to scupper them; ie, the bank has left me no money, or my ex- is giving me grief, because she thinks that I owe her some sort of respect and caring..pah!..
I work fucking hard all week, and all that I ask is to live a moderatly unassuming life - I cause no one harm, and wish no malice towards anyone - and yet, I am never made happy. Anything that I try to do to improve my life or outlook thereof, is thwarted at every turn by the requirements of this fucking unfair system of rich-get-richer, poor-get-poorer. Evilness seems to win over good at every battle, and selfishness gets rewarded.
Show a little compassion, or caring, or love, and everything goes against you - you're seen as some kind of wierdo.

You spend your life thinking that there are certain aims and 'promises' - there si someone for evryone in this world, someone that is made for you, so we are told...all of it is lies...or , if it is true, you can only see those things from a distance, because quite frankly, it is just another torment designed to confuse you...another barrier that has to be overcome!

I'm fed up of trying to climb over barriers.
I'm pissed off that I have been 'lied' to for all these years, and that, actually, I seem to be some kind of puppet for the amusement of some unseen tormentor.

I'm pissed off with living.
Pissed off that every morning I wake up to the same struggle, day in day out, with seemingly no means of escape.
Fucked off, that everything that I love, is either out of reach, or denied me all together.
And fucked off that people who exhibit an attitude of selfish behaviour and lack of compassion, seem to have better lives and are happy in their own world.

Why is it, that compassion and caring, are rewarded with pain and hardship - at every level?
Why is it, tha the desire to live peacefully and unambiguously, are met with derision, ridicule, and no small amount of distain?
Why is it, that my simple wishes from life can't be realised, when others who live their lives with greed and possession, seem always to get what they desire - even though their actions can be seen as detrimental to the grand scheme of things?

There is no justice, and therefore, no point.

There is no spoon.

[High phy]

hey, dont want to sound rude or anything but... dont you guys wanna toke?

[RESiNATE]

I would love to have a toke, but you know what? I aint got any money to buy any dope, because the bank has taken it all.
I aint got enough money to do anything!

I see people on the dole, sapping the state - my taxes - to pay for their life of fucking happiness, whilst I - the provider of their happiness - is made to suffer moire and more.
This system sucks worse than a granny chewing lemons!

Fucking fuck it

Somebody could arrange a fund raiser for me, to hire a hitman and do away with me - please!
I wont even struggle or hide - just tell me when you've arranged it, then I'll tell you where I'll be and what time I'll be there..then BAM!...fin!

[High phy]

ay, que feo se oye fin.

[GHoSToKeR]

Res, when people tell me of their problems, I usually try and give my advice to the best of my abilities..

but, sadly I don't know what to say - I still have a very positive outlook on life (not on the world, but on life), because I haven't properly lived in this world yet.. Whenever I try to give advice on things like this I usually sound patronising - because I'm just giving advice from what I think, not what I know..

So, my friend, all I can do is wish you luck with the problems you're going through right now.. I know everyone says this, but (hopefully) it will get better.. You just have to see it through and come out on top

Peace, man

[RESiNATE]

No, things wont get better -I've been thinking that for nigh on 20yrs, and no matter how hard I try, I fail.

Sure, there are brief spells, but there's always something that comes along and slaps everything back into reality.
No matter how much hope I had, it is all gone. As with everything else.
There is no hope for someone like me. I am cursed with a mind that thinks outside of the box, and as such am tormented by my beliefs and ideals.
I am destined to live a life that is filled with sharp reminders that I am but one small insignificant person, who has some strange ideas about how people should act and behave - and there's nothing that I can do to change it.

I doesn't matter what I believe - I wont forsake them, but I can't implement them. Even if I try to implement them in my own little circle of life, it dpoesn';t conform to the protocol, and therefore is seen as a rebellious activity and is met with resistance.

[maryjanemama]

Res, I was wondering, is there any way that you can get the courts to tell your ex she's not getting any more money from you? I mean, there's no way she can get blood from a stone, right? I know a guy with an ex much like yours, she was trying to extract every last penny from him (really she was trying to extract all the life left in him).

So, finally, the judge said she had to prove where all of the $$$ was going. She was saying she was using it all towards their daughter but it turned out she was really going on vacation, etc. Now she has to have receipts for everything she buys with his child support money. And she gets $500 less a month now because he proved she was wasting all the cash on herself and not the kid.

I know it's easy to say money doesn't matter but it does matter when not having enough is destroying your life. I've come to the realization that I will never have enough cash...never, it's that simple. Also, if someone tells me to smile and spark up, I will find you, and possibly kill you for being an asshole because I am out of weed...unless you want to give me all of yours.

Res,it may seem like the only way out is to put yourself out of your misery but you can't because you have kids. You have 2 huge responsibilities now and they need a father, you can't take that away from them. Besides, you cannot leave them alone with your crazy ex. It's not fair, but your life is not just your own now, it's your kids', too.

[Imotep]

dude...
get over it
its all in your head
it aint gonna get any better until you let it
ive been there, htaed everything and wasnt happy
told myseft to fuck off and stop berig a fuckwit and get over it and i did
and im pretty happy now
i still get taxed and still have not much money or cant go fishing much or whatever and theres stilll wars and idioits spending my taxes on garbage etc whatever.
worked for me.
u could be a starving little kid dying in a pool of your own shit with a blown off leg and nothing but a dead mother for comfort.
it aint thaT bad.
or is it?

[RESiNATE]

yEAH, DON'T i know it.

I love my kids, anbd they are the only reason that I stick around, but it breaks my heart when I can't even afford to do give them little things. Plus, I find it very difficult to hide my frustration - I don't take itouton them, but I have little patience right now, and so I am faced weith the double-whammy, of trying to keep a happy face on, when all I wanna do is cry at my inadequecies - and that's what it boils down to. I can't even look after myself, so how the fuck can \I be a role model to them?

I aint gonna check out, no matter how much I want to, but what the fuck have I got to do to make this existence bearable?

I've tried the give-a-fuck attitude, but that only works if those that you are directin git at GAF about how you feel...they do not, the banks, the ex-...they couldn't give a fuck!

Anyways, I'm on pumpkin detail with the kids...must control the knife action lol...
I spose that I shouldn't design the face on their mother...not least because i'll end up kicking it the out of the door.

[RESiNATE]

btw..thanks for your support guys, I'm just inconsolable at the moment - it is just that the cycle is getting too tedious to put up with anymore...

As for the cash...I don't want any of it - it is a corrupter of the spirit - but, I gotta get tax on my car, which I can't afford, so now I can't go to work..yadda yadda yadda...

[Torog]

Howdy Resinate,

You lament:" I am destined to live a life that is filled with sharp reminders that I am but one small insignificant person, who has some strange ideas about how people should act and behave - and there's nothing that I can do to change it."

I believe that you are wrong,if you're heavy laden and find that your labor is difficult to bear,you can rest your burden with Jesus Christ..He will bear your burdens and restore your hope.

You have the power to change your life..indeed-one man can change the World.

Be grateful of your many blessings..many do not have as many blessings as you... remember always-that but for the Grace of God..there go I..

[maryjanemama]

I'm not trying to step on any toes here...but can Jesus pay the phone bill?

[clevemire]

Now now. Torog was just trying to be nice in his own way. While you and I don't agree on his views, he didn't force it on anyone.

Is this me talking?? :eek: I am such a hypocrite :rolleyes:

[GHoSToKeR]

Now now. Torog was just trying to be nice in his own way. While you and I don't agree on his views, he didn't force it on anyone.

Is this me talking?? :eek: I am such a hypocrite :rolleyes:
hey Cleve, I like your signature

[clevemire]

Thanks. Got it on the insert of a cd. Sounded catchy and thoughtful.

[RESiNATE]

Jesus?

"Follow me, for I am the light"...

Jesus tried to tell the people to stop wasting their lives by worshipping God, and turn thier attentions to bettering themselves...but did they listen...No, too wrapped up in their egotistical self-importance - just like today...after 2000yrs, they still don't get it!

So, no - I'm afraid Jesus can't help me - because he is dead 2000yrs - and he aint coming back...for anyone...

The only person who can help me, is me. And in order for me to help me, I have to have the will to help me - and...yep, I aint got anyt will left anymore...too many times have I reinvented myself, taken the shit that has been dealt me, and seeing as I'm a 'model christian', where the fuck is this Jesus character...waiting for more?...seeing if I can take anymore?...
Come on Jesus...show yourself, and tell me that this all amkes sense!!!

*looks around*
HA - just as I thought - just another lie to control the masses through fear and predudice

[Imotep]

it is said, the lord helps those thathelp themselvesss.
ina way, im with torog, at least put it outaa yr hands.
unload yr burden, however way is right for you.

[Lulu]

Reminds me of the Elvis Costello song;

I want to vanish
This is my fondest wish
To go where I cannot be captured
Laid on a decorated dish
Even in splendor this curious fate
Is more than I care to surrender
Now itâ??s too late

Whether in wonder or indecent haste
You arrange the mirrors and the spools
To snare the rare and precious jewels
That were only made of paste

If you should stumble upon my last remark
Iâ??m crying in the wilderness
Iâ??m trying my best to make it dark
How can I tell you Iâ??m rarer than most
Iâ??m certain as a lost dog
Pondering a sign post

I want to vanish
This is my last request
Iâ??ve given you the awful truth
Now give me my rest

Res if you have yahoo msgnr give me a shout [email protected]
Chin up babes xxxx

[dylan]

life is nothing more than a being overcoming challenges, to survive long enough, to pass their genetics on to others, to evolve to the most capable being possable. maybe a lack of life desire is caused by genetics rather than the enviroment lived in. up until recently human genetics were based on survival, and no quality survival genetics would allow a person to roll over and die. however, now humans are able to live a relatively easy life and either our genetics are slowly changing or weakining through poor breeding. i would prefer the first possablity.

[RESiNATE]

Hmmm..interesting notion, Dylan - I think it is a case of being a combination of both - easy life AND genetic inadequacies.

However, the 'genetic inadequacies' is a bit of an over-generalisation. I think that the gene-pool is gradually improving (although, to look around us, that might seem untrue), it is the ones in power that succumb to the basic human traits of greed and selfishness, by their very appointment (usually from the same family or organisation - evil begets evil?).

It was suggested to me the other night, that we humans are running parallel to the spirit world - they use us to learn by experience, and that all other matters in life (ie, greed and selfishness) are our human sides breaking through. I was almost convinced.
This person told me that we should forgive each other for our shortfalls - he used an example of someone that abuses your own child, could you forgive them?
Probably not, but he suggested that that person is not at fault - they are a victim to their human side, and should be forgiven.
I'm not so sure.

[maryjanemama]

Now now. Torog was just trying to be nice in his own way. While you and I don't agree on his views, he didn't force it on anyone.

Is this me talking?? :eek: I am such a hypocrite :rolleyes:Oh, I know, that was my feeble attempt at humor. :) Actually, sometimes I wish I did believe in all of that...maybe I wouldn't be so......so the way I am. Did that make sense?

[juanskee]

To answer the question:
Here's a part of answer I beleive.

It's all in the dna,bondage,elements. All comjumbled together Thanks to yours truly " :confused: "


Life is for change and possibilities. It's a gift and you are the so called driver. The thing about life is unbeleivable the( :( possibilities :) ) there are. Remember big fucking dinasours wher here once, that shit is just crazy. 4000 years ago Iraq was lush forest land for gardens and trees and shit :eek:
so..
Shit happens &
Drive your shit good if your smart. :D

[LonerStoner]

Sorry, going OT here.

Just wanted to say hi to Lonerstoner. I was seriously going to put that as my name, and thought it was kinda neat to see somebody else using the name that I was gonna use. So...hi.


Hi back...I used to post on here ~4 years ago with this name, I was surprised when no one had taken it.

Peas out:D

[RESiNATE]

Oh, I know, that was my feeble attempt at humor. :) Actually, sometimes I wish I did believe in all of that...maybe I wouldn't be so......so the way I am. Did that make sense?

It made perfect sense, MJM...I sometimes wish that I could believe too, but I guess thats how YinYang works.