First Grow - Whats wrong? Pictures..

[OregonsDank]

This is my first medical grow, I transplanted clones into these 3 gallon pots, I was real light on the ferts , about 60% recommended.. dry ferts mixed into soil before first watering.

I have them in a room 4x4 with a 1000 watt MH about 38 inches above them..

The plants just look a little wilted and arnt growing much , been under MH for 2 days , almost 3 now , 18 on 6 off.

What is wrong with my plants :( Dont look very happy..

Sorry bad pictures... hard to use camera phone while a 1000 watt light on :( Ill get some with a smaller light when I go to dark period later :).

[Ginnas]

Is that an ebb and flow hydro system ?

[Coka_Khola_THC]

they look a bit limp. is it 2 hot/humid?:rasta: :stoned:

[OregonsDank]

Its just soil , sunshine mix #4 with 3 tablespoon of dry foxfarm peace of mind ,fertalizer. Few clay balls ontop to keeping the light from drying soil out to fast.

I have kept room around 70-80 , and 50% humidity idk what is wrong my first grow :(

I kept the plants under floros for 2 days after I transplanted then put them under this MH 1000 watt, maybe they are getting to much light? They are 38 inches from a 1000 watt MH...

[OregonsDank]

few more pics, can anyone help me figure out what is wrong? Been in the 70s 36inches + from a 1000 watt MH , had decent roots when transplanted 4 days ago.

[MastaChronic]

looks like it might be an overwatering problem

[OregonsDank]

I only watered them once the day I potted them, 4 or 5 days ago.

Each 3 gallon pot ate 3 quarts of water though before it started coming out the bottom.


What do you do if you got to much water in your pots :X Room isnt very humid , should I raise the temps in room to help dry it out or?

[MastaChronic]

umm, im not too skilled at growing (havent even started my first one) but ive read enough. my advice, stick your finger a few inches into the soil evryday and when it is bone dry, thats when you know to water. im not too sure what to do about over watering except, maybe, replacing the soil? dont take my word on it. btw, what city are you at? i personally live in roseburg

[OregonsDank]

Live near salem :)

Ic yah I only watered once on transplant - they dont look like they are dying I guess, pretty new to this but they dont look happy lol...

Hoping all 6 turn out healthy since that is my limit, and all I have :stoned:

[brookerosebud]

try floro's

[TheGreenFog]

Question...were the clones rooted before you planted them?? Not trying to underestimate you, but if you got freshly cut clones, they will take several days up to 1 1/2 weeks to fully sprout a good set of roots. During that time, they will look droopy, and will not visibly grow (due to the fact that they are focusing the energy on building a root system). If they are not rooted, they really dont need much water at the base anyway, because they have no roots to suck it up! :) Foliar absorbtion in a warm, humid environment is the key. :) If they ARE rooted already, disregard all I just said...


:D

TGF

[TheGreenFog]

Ok, if they ARE already rooted, I would suspect either over/under- watering or heat exhaustion. Since you said you've only watered them once since planting, I'd say test the soil to see if it is too dry. They sell meters for that. If it IS too dry, WATER IT! :D

If this is not the case, the next culprit would be heat. You said you keep the heat down. How do you do this? From where are you measuring the heat? Thanks.

Edit: One more thing. You said you put fertilizer/nutes on it? 60%? Well, if they are not rooted, they most definitely do not need the ferts at this time and you could injure them by adding them. If they are rooted, I still think they are too young to be using that much fertilizer. You could start even lower, like 25% at first and work your way up from there. Hope this helps.

:D

TGF

[misk]

the plant could be stressed from a few things, changing lights like that is a big shock for the plant, and will usualy take a lil while for it to adjust, also has the plant been in that pot its hole life? transplanting the plant stresses it for a good week or so. ride it out and make sure its watered correctly but not too much and see how it is in a few days.

if they rnt already rooted then this will just add to the stress.

weed is a pretty hardy plant and usualy takes a nbit to kill it. ull be suprised at wat it will recover from :)

[OregonsDank]

Question...were the clones rooted before you planted them?? Not trying to underestimate you, but if you got freshly cut clones, they will take several days up to 1 1/2 weeks to fully sprout a good set of roots. During that time, they will look droopy, and will not visibly grow (due to the fact that they are focusing the energy on building a root system). If they are not rooted, they really dont need much water at the base anyway, because they have no roots to suck it up! :) Foliar absorbtion in a warm, humid environment is the key. :) If they ARE rooted already, disregard all I just said...


:D

TGF

I got these as clones a week ago, they had roots, some more than others, enough roots to start coming out of a 2 inch by 2 inch pots. pretty small root systems, and yes I only watered when I planted them 4 days ago but I used alot of water at that time... the soil does not feel soaked though.

I keep temps down with an exhaust fan and filtering the intake air, pretty windy in my 4x4 since I use a 1050 cfm exhaust but plants dont move to much.

So if my plants were active at making roots right now the drooping is ok?

How long is average for new transplants to really take off in growth?

Last question, how close can I put these to my 1000 watt MH vented hood. They are 38 inches away right now that is ok? Can I go with like 28 or 18?

[faithlessxxx]

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I don't think you want to stress them anymore, rather the opposite.
Soft light, low or no nutrients, etc.
I'm no expert but I've read a million times that clones must be treated carefully for the first 1 -2 weeks.

Surely you have loads of light on them already with that 1 000MH?
The distance you can have them at is determined by the heat at the closest part of the plants.
Good luck man, I think you need to just let them relax a little longer.

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[TheGreenFog]

Ditto to the above...pretty much. I'd say go buy a moisture meter for your soil. That will eliminate any guessing in the moisture department and help you narrow down your problems. Put your hand on the top-most leaf and leave it there for at least a minute. The closest you want your light is where your hand feels comfortable, not bearable, comfortable. :)

Dont over-nurture them. They will be ok. Just give them the appropriate conditions and they will thrive. :D

Let us know when they perk up!

TGF

[OregonsDank]

Ty for all the positive replies! I think they are perking up a bit tonight aready <3
I went and told them sorry for giving them to much to drink - I think they forgave me :P

Should be an interesting first grow since the clinic let me pick 6 different strains :D

I have snowbud to whitewidow , and some NL , also some skunk.

Mainly growing to create a mother or 2, but I have up to 6x4 in space and a 6 plant limit so maybe I can make a few moms :D

Btw, while im here - when do I Fim or Trim the top to make it branch out?

[BlueBear]

Top at when you get your 5th node. You eventualy want that light about 12 inches from the top of the plants for best results. Also get a moisture tester from Wally Mart. They cost about $8 and come in handy.
Adieu

[MastaChronic]

what site did you order your clones off of, if you dont mind me asking

[OregonsDank]

A clinic in Portland donated them to me while I was attending a class on how to grow indoors :)

[MastaChronic]

o thanks anyway :D

[cmorbud]

one more thing the roots are still shallow,top 2-3 inches will dry out first.
thats where the roots still are,check the moister at root level.