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Acouwaila
09-29-2006, 10:43 PM
where can i find salvia?

d00d989
09-29-2006, 10:47 PM
any headshop.......or www.salviaworld.com

its legal, shouldnt be too hard to find

Acouwaila
09-29-2006, 10:48 PM
k thanks

do mostly all headshops have it?

rottenPauL
09-29-2006, 11:02 PM
think so

jamstigator
09-29-2006, 11:09 PM
It's legal some places, illegal others. It's definitely not legal where I am, although I live close enough to the state line that I could probably get it easily enough by driving one state over. The places that sell it online mostly won't ship it to the states where it's illegal either.

Acouwaila
09-29-2006, 11:29 PM
says 100% legal everywhere except australia on that site

jamstigator
09-30-2006, 09:40 AM
Well, they're wrong. It's illegal in Missouri, Delaware and Louisiana, and it won't be long before it's illegal elsewhere. And if the feds classify it as a Schedule I drug, which they're likely working on, then it'll be illegal in every state, at least so far as the feds are concerned. Get it while you can!

Draziok
09-30-2006, 10:08 AM
Well, they're wrong. It's illegal in Missouri, Delaware and Louisiana, and it won't be long before it's illegal elsewhere. And if the feds classify it as a Schedule I drug, which they're likely working on, then it'll be illegal in every state, at least so far as the feds are concerned. Get it while you can!



Salvia divinorum is uncontrolled in the United States. This means all parts of the plant and its extracts are legal to cultivate, buy, possess, and distribute (sell, trade or give) without a license or prescription. If sold as a supplement, sales must conform to U.S. supplement laws. If sold for consumption as a food or drug, sales are regulated by the FDA.

The federal analog act generally requires that, in order to qualify as an analog, a substance must be chemically similar to a substance which is federally scheduled. Salvia Divinorum is chemically quite different from other scheduled substances and as a plant is quite unlikely to be targeted by this act.

Selling Salvia divinorum for human consumption as a "drug" is probably illegal in the US under the Food, Drug & Cosmetics Act and its sale as a drug would be regulated by the FDA. Selling an unapproved drug in the US can be prosecuted under the FD&C's "misbranding" clause. (FD&C Section 502) The more it is packaged and marketed as a drug (for example a 10x extract hyped as 'the new ecstasy') the more likely it is to be treated as an "illegal drug" by law enforcement agents.

The US Air Force is considering whether to include Salvia divinorum in the list of banned drugs. See Plant could get airmen in legal hot water, Jan 2004.

California Analog Act
Under the strict California Analog Act, salvia could potentially be prosecuted if it is sold for human consumption as a psychoactive drug.

US Federal Analogue Act
Under the Federal Analogue Act, salvia fails to meet the "chemically similar" criteria and thus is not subject to the analogue act provisions. However, the DEA has recently changed their view on this and now states:

"Salvia Divinorum, Salvinorin A, and Divinorin A are not listed in the Controlled Substances Act. If sold for human consumption, Salvia may be subject to control under the Analogue statutes because of its functional pharmacological similarities to other CI hallucinogens like THC."
-- from DEA Diversion Salvia Page Feb 2002

However the DEA's analysis is completely flawed. The Federal Analogue Act, as currently understood requires that a substance be "chemically similar" to a controlled substance not "pharmacologically similar" as the DEA suggests in their quote. Very little is known about the pharmacology of Salvia and there is still much unknown about the pharmacology of THC. Saying the two are 'pharmacologically similar' might satisfy the paragraph II of the Analogue Act test, but its also just wrong. Perhaps the DEA has performed human pharamcology studies on salvinorin that they are keeping secret, but most likely the authors of this article are just trying to use their position to further extend the reach of their power well beyond the scope of the law.

Salvinorin is not a chemical analog of any scheduled substance.


the DEA has themselves in a screwup here. :D

royalHIGHness
09-30-2006, 01:54 PM
salvia is crazzzy...most headshops and lil african/ghana type stores have it...

make it legal
09-30-2006, 02:02 PM
Yeah, man, that shit's nuts.

holysmokin
10-01-2006, 12:31 AM
Check Ebay also. I bought my first 1/2 g from my local head shop for 18$ but I bought a full G off of ebay for 7 bucks shipped to my house. It has a sticker right on the bag saying not for human consumption. They sell it on ebay as an incense. peace

Funyons
10-01-2006, 12:47 AM
is there an age limit on it

DannyMan
10-01-2006, 01:31 AM
Well, they're wrong. It's illegal in Missouri, Delaware and Louisiana, and it won't be long before it's illegal elsewhere. And if the feds classify it as a Schedule I drug, which they're likely working on, then it'll be illegal in every state, at least so far as the feds are concerned. Get it while you can!

Aye it's getting investigated more closely by DEA officials, and they're coming to the conclusion that the shit shouldn't be as available as it is. There's a headshop fairly close to my house and everytime I go in there to get some papes and whatnot, there will be this 18 year old kid who just started smoking weed that'll be looking for an alternative. Those kids don't realize how fucking potent of a substance Salvinorin-A really is. I've seen some people do some pretty fucking crazy stuff on salvia...leaving me with the belief that salvia really shouldn't be sold so easily to the population.


BTW jamstigator, your signature inspired me. Weed and wise words always make for a good and deep pondering time. :)

SkatePopwar
10-01-2006, 07:18 AM
is it possible to grow salvia? from what i heard the seeds are extremely rare. i smoked salvia once, but i didnt do it right and it was crappy stuff. i really want to try it again and get as much form is as i can though

Reefer Rogue
10-01-2006, 07:52 AM
Never underestimate the POWER of Salvia.

SkatePopwar
10-01-2006, 08:37 AM
i can only imagine it :D my friend smoked 20x and he said he was out of his mind

SkatePopwar
10-01-2006, 08:37 AM
that must be so completely insane! oh god i cant wait...psychadelics amaze me

Kryzco
10-01-2006, 08:38 AM
he he I'm gettin my first batch of salvia tuesday

it will be ever so much fun!

friendowl
10-02-2006, 04:27 PM
fun is not the correct word
you will know how it feels to die
if you hit it right
the longest 5 minutes of my life

benagain
10-02-2006, 04:36 PM
fun is not the correct word
you will know how it feels to die
if you hit it right
the longest 5 minutes of my life

Couldn't have put it better myself. Makes me feel like my eyes are getting pulled into the back of my head and the rest of my body is gettung pulled to the roof. Very very odd sensation. Nothing like acid or any other drug I've tried.

Cyclonite
10-02-2006, 04:38 PM
Like twisting.....very short lived though...don't eat it...yuck got nothing.

Nochowderforyou
10-02-2006, 05:33 PM
I used to enjoy salvias effects, but I no longer enjoy it. It's too much for one mind and it's like living an awake dream, which of course dreams, can turn to nightmares. I then get very, very sleepy afterward like my arms and legs weigh a billion pounds.

I still have half a gram of 10x downstairs that I will probably never smoke. Just imagine a weed burnout times 20 with salvia. It is so harsh for something so short lived. So yeah, I don't like it. :)

HeyItsMe
10-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Its not that bad, I did it my first time and I thought, I was gonna die and felt very weak. But as I continued to do it. Its not that bad, I hits your hard thoe everytime, and would make me sweat, and feel hot as hell. But other then that its alright, makes you laugh alot if your with someone else doing it. But you probley wont want to do it that offten.