Abovetheinfluence, below the truth.

[Markass]

I read this on www.abovetheinfluence.com and was wondering if anyone else agreed that the information given out should be current? Well, the fucking fact about marijuana having four times the cancerous causing tar than cigarettes? This is from 1988..WTF? that's nearly twenty years ago. This is bullshit information. Recent information shows too much truth for these dicks, but they shouldn't conceal the truth. Think about this as well, when you're busted with weed, more than likely you're going to have to go to a treatment center because you have a 'drug problem.'

Marijuana

Marijuana is illegal.

Smoking pot affects alertness, concentration, perception, coordination and reaction time, many of the skills required for safe driving and other tasks. These effects can last several hours after smoking.
Source: Marijuana: Facts Parents Need to Know, Revised, NIDA, November 1998

Teens age 12 to 17 who regularly smoke marijuana were shown to be three times more likely than non-users to have suicidal thoughts.
Source: Greenblatt, J. Adolescent self-reported behaviors and their association with marijuana use, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), 1998

Can you become addicted to marijuana? Actually, yes. More teens are in treatment with a primary diagnosis of marijuana dependence than for all other illicit drugs combined.
Source: Treatment Episodes Data Set (TEDS) 1992-2002, SAMHSA, 2004

Marijuana has some of the same cancer-causing substances as tobacco. One joint can deliver four times as much cancer-causing tar as one cigarette.
Source: Wu, TC et al. Pulmonary hazards of smoking marijuana as compared with tobacco. New England Journal of Medicine. 318(6):347-351, 1988.

[orangeman]

Y'know I just dont see why every anti-drug organization always has marijuana as their #1 target with bull shit lies. While marijuana might be the number one illegally used substance, those companies barely ever mention the dangers or intoxicating effects (which are way worse than marijuanas) of other drugs that actually can kill people.

edit: I mean some companies metion things about other drugs like on their web-site or something but every commercial you see it's always about marijuana, never ecstasy or cigarettes or alcohol or meth. The last alc commercial was "dont drink and drive, or you get ticket" or a beer commercial that tells those fucks to "drink responsibly." Then with cigarettes the last commercial I ever seen was the truth commercial about M&M's and cigarettes. And the only thing I've seen about meth is to report meth labs...but all the examples of a high person or stories about people and marijuana are always seem to be put on t.v. for a good 15 to 20 seconds.

[orangeman]

Lol look, half of these myth's are about pot, not meth or ecstasy :p

http://abovetheinfluence.com/the-influence/mythbusters.htm

[suhl]

i dont really care about these because people who believe in these commercials are saps or idiots or both. their loss.

[Oneironaut]

Well, there's a reason they put so much effort into dissing cannabis. They're not going to dis alcohol and tobacco too much, because those are huge multibillion dollar industries that are very dear to our government's economic interests. They can't appear to be all for these drugs because everybody knows they can be really harmful, but it's not like the government is going to go on a massive crusade to erase alcohol and tobacco use from the general population like they do with the black market drugs.

They don't need to create a massive campaign to inform people that crack and meth and heroin can seriously fuck you up either. Hardly anybody disputes that, even the people addicted to them. It would be a waste of money from the government's perspective, as it does not achieve their goals.

But there are lots of people, millions of them, smoking cannabis every day and noticing no real significant ill effects; in order to justify retaining the status quo on cannabis laws (which have been rejected by huge portions of the youth for the past four decades), they need to fight this perception with all the distorted truths and outright lies they can muster up.

We should be encouraged by these anti-cannabis commercials. They show us that the system finds the pro-cannabis population to be a real threat to the status quo and that a massive public campaign is needed to combat it. The very fact that they need to distribute this kind of propaganda to convince the public that cannabis is bad is just an indication that too many people are starting to believe exactly the opposite.

[suhl]

well its tru though, weed has about 4 times the tar.

1. what are you basing it on
2. dont they refer to it as cancer causing tar(if they dont i apologize for my ignorance i dont feel like scrolling up). well weed doesnt cause cancer.

bottom line: it may have more tar, but that tar is harmless

[orangeman]

Well, there's a reason they put so much effort into dissing cannabis. They're not going to dis alcohol and tobacco too much, because those are huge multibillion dollar industries that are very dear to our government's economic interests. They can't appear to be all for these drugs because everybody knows they can be really harmful, but it's not like the government is going to go on a massive crusade to erase alcohol and tobacco use from the general population like they do with the black market drugs.

They don't need to create a massive campaign to inform people that crack and meth and heroin can seriously fuck you up either. Hardly anybody disputes that, even the people addicted to them. It would be a waste of money from the government's perspective, as it does not achieve their goals.

But there are lots of people, millions of them, smoking cannabis every day and noticing no real significant ill effects; in order to justify retaining the status quo on cannabis laws (which have been rejected by huge portions of the youth for the past four decades), they need to fight this perception with all the distorted truths and outright lies they can muster up.

We should be encouraged by these anti-cannabis commercials. They show us that the system finds the pro-cannabis population to be a real threat to the status quo and that a massive public campaign is needed to combat it. The very fact that they need to distribute this kind of propaganda to convince the public that cannabis is bad is just an indication that too many people are starting to believe exactly the opposite.


Damn bro, I never thought of it like that. Your fuckin smart lol! :stoned:

[Nochowderforyou]

Well, I like smoking pot, so there. :p

[greasecleaner61]

I think there full of shit. My mom has smoke cigs since she was young. She just turned 71 and has lymphobic lung cancer and the dr's say it wasn't from smoking. She took care of the parks In Center ND, small town, and what there saying is that the spray she had to use for weeds and leafy spurge is where the cancer came from. The city would not provide her with the proper safety equipment and now I am losing my mom to lung cancer. So, this crap about all the tar from smoking is just shit.

[suhl]

I think there full of shit. My mom has smoke cigs since she was young. She just turned 71 and has lymphobic lung cancer and the dr's say it wasn't from smoking. She took care of the parks In Center ND, small town, and what there saying is that the spray she had to use for weeds and leafy spurge is where the cancer came from. The city would not provide her with the proper safety equipment and now I am losing my mom to lung cancer. So, this crap about all the tar from smoking is just shit.

no no its not. smoking cigarettes is bad for you i have seen people with voice boxes and known people who have gotten emphyzema and and several of my friends have had relatives die from it. not to mentions the hundreds of thousands of other documented cases

[greasecleaner61]

no no its not. smoking cigarettes is bad for you i have seen people with voice boxes and known people who have gotten emphyzema and and several of my friends have had relatives die from it. not to mentions the hundreds of thousands of other documented cases

Yes smoking is bad, dad just had moth cancer surgery in Feb. But my point is not all lung cancer is due to smoking, like the gov. wants you to believe

[suhl]

i agree not all lung cancer is due to smoking, but the government has never tried to say it is. havent you heard of coal miners getting it. and with what you wrote before that clesarly wasnt the point you tried to make you were saying smoking cigarettes wasnt very bad for you

[greasecleaner61]

i agree not all lung cancer is due to smoking, but the government has never tried to say it is. havent you heard of coal miners getting it. and with what you wrote before that clesarly wasnt the point you tried to make you were saying smoking cigarettes wasnt very bad for you


what coal miners get is called black lung. I didn.t mean to miss lead you. But the originl thread that was post back in the 80' was when I was a teen and they claimed the pot smoking contained more tar than cigs. Hell, it even states on the side of the pack that they will kill you. I even remember when cigerette packs weren.t labled by the surgeon general. That was the government.

[suhl]

it is called black lung, and that causes cancer. look it up. thousands of people die from cigarettes. they have the bodies to back up claims on cigarettes and they dont on pot. i have nothing more to say on. this subject, if you want to tell yourself cigarettes arent bad for you go ahead, but dont come crying to me when you are smoking through a hole in your neck and talking out of a voicebox.

[greasecleaner61]

it is called black lung, and that causes cancer. look it up. thousands of people die from cigarettes. they have the bodies to back up claims on cigarettes and they dont on pot. i have nothing more to say on. this subject, if you want to tell yourself cigarettes arent bad for you go ahead, but dont come crying to me when you are smoking through a hole in your neck and talking out of a voicebox.

I don't smoke cigs. just weed.

[Acouwaila]

Y'know I just dont see why every anti-drug organization always has marijuana as their #1 target with bull shit lies. While marijuana might be the number one illegally used substance, those companies barely ever mention the dangers or intoxicating effects (which are way worse than marijuanas) of other drugs that actually can kill people.

edit: I mean some companies metion things about other drugs like on their web-site or something but every commercial you see it's always about marijuana, never ecstasy or cigarettes or alcohol or meth. The last alc commercial was "dont drink and drive, or you get ticket" or a beer commercial that tells those fucks to "drink responsibly." Then with cigarettes the last commercial I ever seen was the truth commercial about M&M's and cigarettes. And the only thing I've seen about meth is to report meth labs...but all the examples of a high person or stories about people and marijuana are always seem to be put on t.v. for a good 15 to 20 seconds.

I think they focus on marijuana because the commercials are being paid by the government to help protect its reputation. Our government is supposed to be for the people so they create commercials to keep the opposition of marijuana high in our society. Its so that people think that its illegal for all of these bad reasons rather than it being illegal because the government can't tax it. This seems like it has to be true. Otherwise these drug companies would focus on way more dangerous things than marijuana. (if they wanted to help someone)

[homestar]

look it's simple, buy good bud and smoke less...i can see a real danger if you're smoking shwag, joint after joint, but a few bong rips of some really good dank...forget about it. your lungs need time in between to regenerate damaged cells, if you give it the time it needs you'll be fiiiiiiiiiiine

[smoke it]

it says that fewer than one in five students use marijuana in the high schools the surveyed. they should come down to my high school... :rasta:

[HypnotizedMind]

Notice when you scroll across the toolbar and you go over to "ads" it says below watch them again and again....what are they brainwashing kids?.

[shoi]

above the influence is one of thoes things that makes me want to punch babies.

[epicsoundz69]

The only reason, if any, that a stoner would get "suicidal thoughts", is because they were thrown in jail facing felony charges for smoking a few joints.

[Oneironaut]

it says that fewer than one in five students use marijuana in the high schools the surveyed. they should come down to my high school... :rasta:

Of course, that doesn't mean that only about 20% of the kids in those schools actually smoke pot. It just means that about 20% of them were so stoned that day they actually answered "yes" when the government asked them if they smoke pot.

[LIP]

weed is harmless, no matter what bullshit goes flying around.

[smoke it]

no. normally only like 25% of the kids in my school are sober. we live in a small redneck farm town and, well, there isnt much else to do than smoke bud, or go cow tippin :stoned:

[SkatePopwar]

i feel so bad for all those ppl who dont burn!
llike GOD
their lives muse be so boring, what do they do to relax and better themselves? what are their values and philosiphies? imagine spending all your life listening to others and falling victim to the hilarities of society? HOLY SHIT!