I just hate all organized religion~ ALL OF IT

[the yeag]

I am sick of seeing posts about jesus christ buhdah the koran and the bible

and the rest of that shit. I was brought up catholic and went to church

twice a week for 15 years... a waste of fucking time. when my parents got

divorced we were looked down upon. i have been to almost every kind of

sevice from from babtist to church of god to lutheren jewish even the crazy rock n roll churches in florida.

its all crap and as far as i am concerned it is a private matter that should not

be disscused here!!!!

we will never agrea, we should adopt a policy like my mason brothers have

believe in a higher power, for sure, other than that shut the fuck up about it.

i think it is weak to go every sunday give some money read a bulshit book

that was misinterperated when wrote most likely anyway. and you will be saved.

it;s horseshit complete garbage. go tell your priest ,pastor , minister, chieften ~whatever you call him~ that you get high!!!

that you grow pot. be honest with the ~MAN~ or ~WOMAN~ that you follow, that you pay to listen to ,that you do illegal activities.

and watch how your treated afterwords. even though they will still take your money you wont be welcomed.

of course you would not do that you say...~that's private~ not thier buissnes

well so is religion so keep it to yourself.

i want feedback, but i do not care to hear any of the the following,

~that your church is different, or that i'm going to hell for saying this, or i'm just an uneducated american slob.

i've heard it all before i dont care to get into a long debate about the subject.


believe in something, but keep it to yourself

thank you,

~THE YEAG~


ps... i still where my saint christopher medal...looks real cool ~chicks dig it~
ha ah fooking ha

[Krogith]

i follow mans law and have a club card, I also do not hurt my body with a volcano vaporizer so as far as following what jesus tought , to not harm your body and obay man's law to the point of not disobaying god.

I pratice what i preach that is Godly FEAR knowing that i am being watched and have to follow rules. Weeds a plant were supost to be eatting it.

[the yeag]

ummm ok

[Pass That Shit]

I completely agree with you about religion. There is NO true religion out there.

Jesus, who was anti religion has been made the cornerstone for all religion. Keep in mind that it was religious people that put him to death.

Praise the LORD


"believe in something, but keep it to yourself
thank you,"

Why did you start this thread?

[the yeag]

i guess there is quite a few peeps out there that do think like me...this was not written to start a fight but i did expect some resistance

[the yeag]

i wrote this because i feel relgion is private- i would not go to church and talk about weed, if i attentened so why talk about church here.... lots of topics are fun to discuss but here it is supposed to be about weed.. religion has nothing to do with weed... it should be banned if mom talk is and seed trading and other topics about drugs .... and i guess people that belong to cults that judge society piss me off

[Pass That Shit]

Keep in mind that this is a specific forum.

Sounds like your problem is with the Administrators. It sounds like you would prefer for them to remove this portion of the site where people talk about what they believe in. Seriously, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I'm not trying to provoke you. But I didn't notice any God speed on the other cannabis forums.

[the yeag]

well yes and know...you did make a good point they keep to themselves..and probbably will not post here anyway. i guess i just cant stand to see another one pop up when i look at newposts...and yes i would like religion removed..unless one of these bible bashers, or koran krunchers can tell me why relgion should be discussed here

[Cyclonite]

Keeps you on your toes and promotes learning, I always enjoy a good debate.

[turquoise70]

Hey Yeag.


believe in something, but keep it to yourself


Thank you,
turquoise70.

[afghooey]

I don't know if it would be fair to try and say that people shouldn't discuss their beliefs. I think what's missing from the forum (and from humanity as a whole) is a RESPECT and TOLERANCE for each others' beliefs.

'Course, it doesn't really help when certain religions encourage, well... lack of respect and tolerance towards other faiths or whatever.

[gr8misadventures]

I would hate to share my beliefs and then feel like I was being judged....

[Funyons]

i am a spiritual person, but not relgious...when it gets organized it gets corrupt

[fikusroot]

I wish I were religous. At least I'd feel like I had a purpose. Sometimes I feel just like a stick in the mud. Like everyones going to be more sucessful then me and no matter how I try I cant motovate myself to get things done. I fucking hate my school. I hate it SO GODDAMN MUCH! None of my friends really get me. Hell sometimes I dont get me. I need to go to sleep. maybe ill feel better in the morning. Shit, look at me. Im posting this up for a buch of goddamn strangers. I might as well be talking to a machine. Somebody respond and give me some attention.

[fikusroot]

I'm not gonna smoke or drink either like I usually do. I've decided that for the next 2 weeks I'm going to stay sober. I need to get out of here. I seriously think that I am starting to go crazy here. I probably would if I didn't have my therapist.

[mrdevious]

I see no reason to keep religion to ourselves, so long as it's constructive, respectfull, philisophical discussion. If you don't want to here that expression, it's as easy as not clicking the "spirituality" forum. Nothing is being forced on you, you only force it on yourself.

Considering you say you hate "All organized religion", then I assume you're not just basing this on the 3 main monotheistic faiths, of whom's profits and philosophies you assume would be the same as all. So do tell, what do you hate about:

Buddhism?
Taoism?
Hinduism?
Sihkism?
Shinto?
Ayahuasca shamanism?
paganism?
Wicca?
Jainism?
Native American Spiritualism?
Baha'i?
Zoraostrianism?
Rastafari?
Mithraism?
Confucianism?
Deism?

and so on....

[fikusroot]

I hate planet earth. I'd like to leave please.

[mrdevious]

I hate planet earth. I'd like to leave please.

I'm constructing a spaceship to get to Marglar as we speak, you're whelcome to come. All marglar are whelcome on Marglar.

[Hamlet]

I wish I were religous. At least I'd feel like I had a purpose. Sometimes I feel just like a stick in the mud. Like everyones going to be more sucessful then me and no matter how I try I cant motovate myself to get things done. I fucking hate my school. I hate it SO GODDAMN MUCH! None of my friends really get me. Hell sometimes I dont get me. I need to go to sleep. maybe ill feel better in the morning. Shit, look at me. Im posting this up for a buch of goddamn strangers. I might as well be talking to a machine. Somebody respond and give me some attention.

Been there, done that. At least you have a therapist...good for you. Not that my advice will go very far, but if you're willing to make an effort I can tell you how to turn it around. You're not going to want to hear this, but the secret is 'attitude'. Yeah, I know..sounds like some P.E. coaches bullshit but it's true.

You have a choice. You can choose not to hate your school, or your life, or the world around you. Try it. You'll feel better I promise. Happiness isn't a set of circumstances--it's a learned skill. The better circumstances will follow.

[fikusroot]

How happy do you think a mouse would be if you put him in a family of cockroaches? I'm feeling a little better now. I took my medication this morning and coming down from them makes me depressed sometimes. Plus I had a shitty day. But snyway, I'm not that unhappy because my family's rich and nobody I know is dying but I feel like I should be doing so much more with my life. Happiness is a skill but only to a certain extent.
And yes, I would like to go to Marglar provided they have good marglar on marglar.

[the yeag]

HOLLY SHIT I CREATED MY OWN HELL...THIS THREAD SUCKS ASS NOW. BLAHHHHHHHH

[Hamlet]

You're young and your family is rich. About 90% of the World's population would be eager to trade lives with you :) Glad you're feeling better though...depression sucks. I remember I used to go into long bouts with it. One day after I had been miserable for about a week and had hit rock bottom, I realized whatever I thought I was depressed about wasn't nearly as bad as feeling miserable about it all the time. That was like a magic moment for me. I literally felt the depression melt off me like butter. To this day I remember the exact place it happened as I was driving down the road, and I've always been able to control it ever since.

[the yeag]

now i want to ban mental health threads

[Inferius]

We're all on a journey. Every single one of us, every single day.
It's our.... wtf is happening to my eyes... everything just went purple...
wierd...
Anyway, it's our job to figure out our reality and spirituality and morality and etc etc etc until we die.
I think one of the worst components in our lives is fear. Fear drives us to become zelots, to blame others, to destroy.
As soon as you devote everything to one single idea, to one reality, it's causes a multitude of complications with everything. But to live in a state of infinite possibility, of unknowing... It scares a lot of people. A lot of people don't have the courage to maintain a constantly open mind, they need to pick something and banish other ideas in order to maintain faith in their own. There are other motives as well, but the outcome always causes unrest amongst fellow human beings.
However, we all have these choices to make. And history has shown, one mind alone is not always the best option. We're all genetically different, raised different, we all perceive reality differently. In order to make your own personal choices, what better way than to try to understand all the different perspectives of that choice?
We may all have metaphorical "hearts"... But can your heart alone truly provide the intellectual and emotional supplement that fuels your personal journey?
I think not. We need each other.
And this forum is a nice place to interact, share opinions and ideas.

[mrdevious]

now i want to ban mental health threads


the yeag, not in regard to this particular post, but you're seriously the most negative person that has come on these boards thus far. Every post you've made here has been putting people down and maintaining a 24/7 condescending asshole attitude. Why don't you just go to some other boards with people who like to bitch each other out all the time. Try www.herzeleid.com, I left that one 2 years ago because it got like that (like you). This actually used to be a pretty cool and friendly place, but we've been losing those types of people because of people like you ruining this board.

[Hamlet]

the yeag, not in regard to this particular post, but you're seriously the most negative person that has come on these boards thus far.

Not that it's any pleasure to deal with but it seems to me this would be a case of someone trying to work out his 'spiritual' issues. People under a lot of stress are seldom easy to be around.

[the yeag]

mr. devious.......... you are the saddest excuse for a man

that i have ever met. I am overlooking all the obvious ways i could pick apart

a trash you. i feel you have done that to yourself while writing all of the

meaningless retarted garble you spew in this forum. You were reason I wrote

this. you and your band of merry men that run rampant through these

threads bashing everyone in the face with your high and mighty hollyer than

thou bullshit..your a cockroach.......so why don't you take your mind out of

the clouds and put it back in your ass where it belongs.

[stinkyattic]

the yeag, not in regard to this particular post, but you're seriously the most negative person that has come on these boards thus far. Every post you've made here has been putting people down and maintaining a 24/7 condescending asshole attitude. .

I'm sorry, but I just don't see this.

I think the Yeag's original post was very interesting and has quite a bit of validity.

IMO spirituality and organized religion have the same relationship as ethics and government: You can be spiritual or ethical without being part of an organized religion, or governed by anyone.

The flip side is that an organized religion can lose sight of its deeper spirituality just as a government can lose its ethics.

I've never been a great fan of organized religions, especially those with a history of fleecing their flocks. The idea of the tithe sickens me.

[the yeag]

Well thank you very much stinky attic. Wow, that was so hard to do. I meen

saying thanks to someone. i must of had a revalation praise jerry fallwell mr. devious~ for showing me the way~ and the pope. ha ha

ha ahaha thanks stinky i actually read some of that guys threads. I never

said some of mine were not imature, but i am not an asshole or negative.

anyway just like all religous fanatics these people are doing what i thought

they would that being preaching on their nonsense and looking down upon

others ........HE MR. DEVIOUS I AM WORRIED ABOUT YOU BROTHER... I

REALLY THINK YOU BELIEVE.. ~IT'S NOT A LIE IF YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE
TRUE~ so keep on preaching brother....this thread was not started to hurt anyones feelings or beliefs. just keep em to yourself.

~I don't care if it rains or freezes as long as i got my plastic jesus~

[the yeag]

. . . .

[mrdevious]

I'm sorry, but I just don't see this.

I think the Yeag's original post was very interesting and has quite a bit of validity.



I wasn't actually referring to his original post, but general attitude in the forums here.


Oh and yes Yeag, I'm super holier than thou. In fact I'm the holiest person to ever live on this earth. I know everything, My wisdom is perfect. I can't possibly do any wrong and everybody in the world is going to hell but me. Plus my after shave smells better.
I'm glad you understand me so well.

[the yeag]

ha ha ah that was actually funny... hey i am sorry to hear about all the pain you got

man..sometimes i forget some people actually need to smoke, i love my

health....and i don't use after shave.. but my colonge makes me smell like a sexual tyranasaures rex....

[mrdevious]

mrdevious - I quite agree with you on a lot of what you have said. However, I still praise Jesus, and see him as the only way into heaven. Are you saying this is wrong? Do you believe in heaven and hell? Please tell, i'm curious, what are you beliefs on the afterlife?


Saying this is wrong? not really. I don't believe this is right, but enjoy a good debate over logic and philosophy. I don't actually expect to convert anyone to my beliefs, merely to engage in constructive debate. I find I gain as much insight into people's beliefs as I express my own.

Heaven or hell, I don't believe in in the traditional sense. Whether or not consciousness continues beyond death I don't know, but I think the most plausible idea would be that "heaven" or "hell" would be of our own making, that the afterlife would exist as our consciousness in and of itself.

I also believe, under the assumption that there is a god and Jesus did everything the bible claims he did, that Jesus would not be the only way to god. Besides, does anybody like the idea of a god that sends those to hell who are good, because they praised his name but not through a particular profit? Rather, I think Jesus said he was the only way to god because he was the only teacher of an enlightened path. Other available philosophies in the region, like paganism, would technically not be a path to god. Surely god, being all knowing and all loving, is less concerned with you praising him for the only visible purpose being an ego stroking, and more concerned that you take whatever path is necessary to become the type of good person he would want you to be, thereby creating the type of soul that is suitable to join him in heaven.


Yeag, I honestly don't think that poorly of you, the last thing I wrote was last night. To explain, yesterday I was in a shit load of pain so I pumped myself with tonnes of trammadol after a 5-day abstinence. I got an immensely euphoric high all day (along with a really damn itchy nose, and that stuff does), then proceeded to hit an equally immense low with the innevitable dopamine drop that comes after hours of drug-induced pleasure. I still think you might want to work on being a more friendly member of the community, but you're certainly whelcome with me and the rest of us here. Not to mention i've been stuck in the shitty-mindset before myself and ended up outright mouthing people off over the web because of my own problems. I'm sure we've all been there, I really hope you don't get stuck there for too long, 'cause it's a shitty way to be alive that nobody needs.

[Purple Banana]

I think studying organized religion is useful in seeing how we evolve, intellectually, as humans. I mean if you think about it, it makes total sense how religion exists. To explain what humans do not know:

Aztec, Mayan, and Incans had hundreds of gods and goddesses to explain the daily "phenomina" that happened in their lives
Early Greeks and Romans used gods and goddesses to have an extrenal, agreed-upon system of faith that explained and rationalized occurrences and decisions
Earlier Europeans, particularly the Catholic church used god as a means to control the government, people, and to collect huge sums of money from the King's subjects simultaneously instilling a fear in god
Henry VIII manipulated Anglicanism as means of allowing him to divorce his many wives
And to date, many religious groups use the form of god and 'morality' interchangably to acheive what they want (issues with prayer in schools, Creationism in schools, death penalty, gay marriage, abortions, ect)

Religion is simply a means of having a bunch of different beliefs of what causes the unknown. Greek and Roman culture had gods to explain war, sleep, rain, storms, love, intelligence, and then later upgraded to mostly Catholic and protestant religions, which do not offer multi-gods (it's blasphemy now) because they have discovered means of knowing how the forementioned processes work! You don't see many Greeks and Italians worshipping Zeus and Athena now, do you? Of course they have statues, but to serve only as a reminder of what they founded many principles on.

For me, MOST (NOT ALL) religious groups harness their gods as a mean to try to get what they want in life, but back it up claiming it's offending their morals and beliefs, because we're such an immensly politically correct society, and religion and government are beginning to mix again. Many religions are severly impeding progress in sciences because they claim its immoral and evolution is crap, ect.

If these people are such science haters, then why do I have to take care of them in hospitals, give them medicines and antibiotics (both of which harness the theory of EVOLUTION) but then they go and complain and tell others what to do and what to say, and hate under such a "loving and forgiving" god?

Man created God, God did not create Man.

[MelT]

If these people are such science haters, then why do I have to take care of them in hospitals, give them medicines and antibiotics (both of which harness the theory of EVOLUTION) but then they go and complain and tell others what to do and what to say, and hate under such a "loving and forgiving" god?

Man created God, God did not create Man.

Well said.

MelT

[Pass That Shit]

I don't know why a christian would have a problem with science. Is there any scientific proof that God does not exist? Cause there's plenty of science that proves that he does.

[Inferius]

I don't know why a christian would have a problem with science. Is there any scientific proof that God does not exist? Cause there's plenty of science that proves that he does.

Religion has sparred with science throughout history.
Religious zelots with closed minds fear science,
it uncovers the truth without just saying "It's Magic!".
But rationally, theres no reason Science and Religion can't exist peacefully together, if not harmoniously. Why would a christian god create a world without constant scientific law? The big bang = gods doing. See what I mean??
There has never been a single proof that god truly exists.
Even if the bible was written by god, it was THROUGH man, and man is imperfect. Which means..
well..
It's MAGIC! :thumbsup:

[the yeag]

just fucking shoot me

[Inferius]

just fucking shoot me

Go listen to emo crap music, dress in all black, and cut yourself in a dark room.
It helps.
I promise.

[Pass That Shit]

Just look around. Look at male and female. My wife is now breast feeding our first daughter. Milk is for babes. The proof is all around you if you believe in his word. The scientific proof is in everything that exists. I think the big bang theory happened in seven days.

"Now faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen"

[Purple Banana]

The thing is, I'm all for freedom of religion, obviously. I'm Atheist myself, former Roman Catholic/Lutheran/Baptist (Went to a LOT of different churches in my younger years) and the only issue I have with religion is the religious fanatics who are seriously impeding science; causing monumental delays that could save millions of lives. I'm talking stem cell research and all; abortions are another issue that I do not understand- RELIGIOUS OR NOT, MEN, YOU HAVE NEVER HAD A CHILD. You do not know what women go through.

Now I do NOT NOT NOT advocate abortion as a means of birth control AT ALL. Rape, incest, a clear danger to mom and fetus, and financial status are all legitimate reasons for abortion IF A WOMAN CHOOSES TO. But men SHOULD not be against something that has VERY little to do with them.

Creationism should be taught in religion class. Not science, not now, not ever. It is not a heavily researched scientific POV; science is not taught in theology classes, therefore, keep religion IN religion classes ONLY.

If you do not support evolution, then by all means, DO NOT get a flu vaccine, antibiotics, blood transfusions, and a variety of other surgeries- they have been almost perfected thanks to the research of scientists and doctors who firmly believe in evolution. If you believe in something, STICK with it. Don't go back and forth like an idiot. Play your cards.

For those anti-Arab Southern Baptists and other prejudice Christians, you do realize that Jesus was most likely an Arabic-looking man with a shaggy coarse beard, dark skin and dark eyes due to his geographic location and time period? Don't give me that silky brown hair, blue eyes, and pure white Aryan skin he is shown to have in paintings galore.

Your god is supposedly forgiving and blind to color and race, although the Bible is debated to be against homosexuality, TREAT EVERYONE with the same respect that your Jesus taught you. Don't hate, it proves nothing.

Otherwise, I have absolutely no problem with religion whatsoever.

[Drunkinlance]

woah!!!!:confused:

[.undefined]

I wish I were religous. At least I'd feel like I had a purpose. Sometimes I feel just like a stick in the mud. Like everyones going to be more sucessful then me and no matter how I try I cant motovate myself to get things done. I fucking hate my school. I hate it SO GODDAMN MUCH! None of my friends really get me. Hell sometimes I dont get me. I need to go to sleep. maybe ill feel better in the morning. Shit, look at me. Im posting this up for a buch of goddamn strangers. I might as well be talking to a machine. Somebody respond and give me some attention.

You and I are one. Lol. You pretty much just described me... except I don't have a therapist.

[the yeag]

just fucking delete this thread....it has just turned into another thread for

bible bashers to wine and cry...i will not comment anymore on it. i feel this

thread is like a rooftop for all you pigeons to shit on... organized religion sucks, end of story....

[fikusroot]

You and I are one. Lol. You pretty much just described me... except I don't have a therapist.

Yea, well, dont let me fool you, I'm not that fucked up. I just have episodes were I freak. I'm a mellow guy with short very colorful outbursts. And my therapist is more for theraputic purposes than say, if I was coping with a mental disease. But I do believe what I said. I wouldn't think it sucked so much if I havent seen myself have moments where I'm incredibly social and inspired and creative. So all the time when I'm not that, I feel like I'm doing myself a disservice.

[Krogith]

Man, he shares my philosophy. : ) It some ways.

I honestly can't believe that anyone out there, anywhere, could care enough about someone to love them without a doubt. That's just impossible. Also, religion is just a bit moronic. We waste our lives indulging in something that is more than likely fiction so why? Why try? Sure, there is a possibility it is true, but there's still a possibility that it's false. But I guess I'm contradicting myself.


if it's true your doing whats right. if it's false then some how atoms poped outa no where and made life and your life is POINTLESS, with it being pointless why not kill every liveing soul in the world and keep it all for your self tell you die like every one befor you? why care if there is No God? No Judge.

for some reason you have a concience but you should go agenst it and not care. you would be misserable if you did that.

I choose to love people and life and try to help thoses who are lost and want to know God.

[mrdevious]

if it's true your doing whats right. if it's false then some how atoms poped outa no where and made life and your life is POINTLESS, with it being pointless why not kill every liveing soul in the world and keep it all for your self tell you die like every one befor you? why care if there is No God? No Judge.


Krogith, enough with the "pointless" argument already. There is no physical law stating that life and matter must have meaning in order to exist. We created meaning and put importance on it, but it's only the result of our ego's that we're so convinced our lives must be the center of importance. This argumen speaks more of a desire than a train of logic.

[the yeag]

come on flame...mr devious......pointless arguements..is what your faith is based on...i am sorry you are very medicated....i'll pray for you

[FireyBudBurner]

Too negative bro, I agree with Mr. you should stop posting negative garbage Yeag. Just go share your high experiences and post silly comments and stop trying to bring people down with nul-point negative nosensical banter PLEASE.

[mrdevious]

come on flame...mr devious......pointless arguements..is what your faith is based on...i am sorry you are very medicated....i'll pray for you

Spoken like a true ignorant monotheist who thinks god is the only faith or philosophy a person can find meaning in.

[the yeag]

hey firey......i actually do agrea with you....my point exactly......mr. D please get some meds....you know what...pills are not my thing....but i'll give ya some if it will hep you....what do ya want...oxy-, vicoden, perks, meprogan,.....dem...

[FireyBudBurner]

Spoken like a true ignorant monotheist who thinks god is the only faith or philosophy a person can find meaning in.
I didn't get the validity of this one, are you polytheistic and are you impling that polytheism has more legitamacy than monotheism, because this my very well be the silliest thing I've heard on these posts. I hope your at least Buhdist and not Hindu. The dood posted a thread about how he hates organized religion in the first place so even calling him a monotheist is way off, that implies hes religious.

[the yeag]

ha ha ha...if i want to watch a buhdist i'll watch rambo three....buhdest are lazy....i wish i was one.......confuecess say....man who tokes will have happy life...hahaha....two words,,, chung lee...oh yeah one more...scorpion wins

[mrdevious]

I didn't get the validity of this one, are you polytheistic and are you impling that polytheism has more legitamacy than monotheism, because this my very well be the silliest thing I've heard on these posts. I hope your at least Buhdist and not Hindu. The dood posted a thread about how he hates organized religion in the first place so even calling him a monotheist is way off, that implies hes religious.

I don't believe in any gods, and I don't know where your getting the idea that I come from a polytheistic religion.


and Yeag, do me big favour here.... stop your little fake niceities you use to veile your constant insults towards me. You know absolutely nothing about me, you sure as hell don't have any idea about my med use, and though you'll never believe otherwise, you're not the high and mighty intellectual you make yourself out to be; a condescending asshole who gets his kicks off pumping himself up through belittling others, would be a far more accurate description.

I'm not even going to argue your idiot belief that buddhists are lazy and following a path of laziness, you've obviously enveloped yourself in your own ignorance far too deep to be reconciled.

[FireyBudBurner]

My bad just the fact that you refered to it as monotheism like you had multiple gods or sumthing.

[FAllout]

believe in something, but keep it to yourself


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