Log in

View Full Version : hyrdo vs dirt?



Blunted22
09-27-2006, 03:59 AM
Which is better/ easier ive been going the aero flow route but cant seem to keep them up and running they will go good and then ill hit like a nutrient burn with the same batch i made a week ago. When with rockwhol and had problems with mites got rid of the mites and had my shit die because a timer fucked up and turn off my light for 3 days when i was out on vaca.


Im jut getting frusterated im not growing for personal so im goign for quanitity but i cant even seem to get my plants healthy. Everytime im ready to take clones my moms get stressed out and dies and i have to restart everyhting been doing this for 6 months and ive had 2 strains completey die and my third is on its way down. im regrowing from seed again and trying to keep my plants i have now alive.

Basically what im trying to say is i need to just keep one plant gro it good enough to take 7 more moms and start my cloneign process again should i go back to dirt? try to get em big and helathy again?


Or shoudl i keep goign with thsi aero flow and timers im looking to get these babies up and goign for sure with NO NO NO fucking interuptions i cant afford it all if it dont get up and gign soon any help will be apprecitated

Weed4Life
09-27-2006, 04:08 AM
Experience plays a key. I would just do a simple run growing a few plants in the aeroflow. I dont know much about aero, gonna do some simple hydro using bubble bucket method and soil aswell. I would have the mums in soil, then take clones from them. Thats how Im gonna start to clone, but use a DIY cloner I read and seen.

Blunted22
09-27-2006, 04:14 AM
well see i got a 8 pot bubble bucket for the moms or drip with the little brown beeds ( i forget the naem) i just want to know what the safest way ive been haveing a problem keeping shit alive i can throw them in the yard and not do anything but water them i they be fine but i cant do shit indoors every time i get something big a buetiful itll die over night.

stinkyattic
09-27-2006, 02:13 PM
Do a dirt grow. It's dead easy. You will get to know your plants' needs better, then move up to hydro, which is twitchier.

Blunted22
09-27-2006, 04:27 PM
well hydro is fine for me its just seems that once they get a foot or a foot and half tall they die over night in dirt or rock wol or even my aero flo system

stinkyattic
09-27-2006, 04:48 PM
....had my shit die because a timer fucked up and turn off my light for 3 days when i was out on vaca.
Your problem was probably not the lights being off, but the pump. That will kill a hydro grow faster than you can believe.



im not growing for personal so im goign for quanitity .... NO NO NO fucking interuptions i cant afford it all if it dont get up and gign soon
If you're a cashcropper, and you don't have another job (you should for legitimacy, IMO), you pretty much have to consider growing your full-time job and not take vacations.

What are your other stats? You know, the whole routine- temp, pH, ppm, %rh, blah blah blah.

But I think no one should count on their grow for 100% of their income- too much can go wrong.

orangeman
09-27-2006, 06:50 PM
I would go all the way with soil for the sole purpose of being able to grow marijuana 100% organically with no chemical nutes or anything.

Specialist
09-27-2006, 08:34 PM
"Soil is so much more forgiving than hydroponics"- Zandor at the grow report.

Aero is the way to go if you wanna grow fast but soil is the easiest/slowest/ possibly the best way to get the biggest plant.

jamstigator
09-27-2006, 08:57 PM
I love soil; it's such a stressfree and relaxing way to grow. I haven't had to use any ph meters or ppm meters, no nute burns, just smooth sailing with soil. Get your nutes wrong with hydro and you can lose an entire crop in no time.

In fact, I have a friend trying hydro now, and he's fried two crops in a row. While he's still struggling to get *anything* he can smoke, I am basking in ounce after ounce of kickass bud that I pull with regularity out of soil. I tried to tell him to at least try soil, but he was adamant that he could produce so much more yield with hydro. Total score for this year: me 41 ounces, him 0 ounces. And I still have another crop to harvest this year! It's not like he's stupid either, just kinda unlucky. He had a pump break, killed a crop. Then he overdid some flowering nutes that he hadn't used before, killed that crop too. But the stuff that has killed his crops is exactly the stuff that you don't have to worry about NEARLY as much (if at all) with soil.

For those who make growing/selling a business, sure, it probably behooves you to use hydro or aero, and devote yourself to what is basically your profession. For those who just want to kick back and smoke whenever they want, and don't care about making money off it, and don't want to have to monitor things closely, soil is awesome.

stinkyattic
09-27-2006, 09:01 PM
Yeah what jamstigator said!
Once you get your soil formula figured out, and a basic feeding schedule, hang up your hammock and watch the grass grow!

orangeman
09-27-2006, 09:14 PM
I love soil; it's such a stressfree and relaxing way to grow. I haven't had to use any ph meters or ppm meters, no nute burns, just smooth sailing with soil. Get your nutes wrong with hydro and you can lose an entire crop in no time.

In fact, I have a friend trying hydro now, and he's fried two crops in a row. While he's still struggling to get *anything* he can smoke, I am basking in ounce after ounce of kickass bud that I pull with regularity out of soil. I tried to tell him to at least try soil, but he was adamant that he could produce so much more yield with hydro. Total score for this year: me 41 ounces, him 0 ounces. And I still have another crop to harvest this year! It's not like he's stupid either, just kinda unlucky. He had a pump break, killed a crop. Then he overdid some flowering nutes that he hadn't used before, killed that crop too. But the stuff that has killed his crops is exactly the stuff that you don't have to worry about NEARLY as much (if at all) with soil.

For those who make growing/selling a business, sure, it probably behooves you to use hydro or aero, and devote yourself to what is basically your profession. For those who just want to kick back and smoke whenever they want, and don't care about making money off it, and don't want to have to monitor things closely, soil is awesome.

Well said my brothah lol.

oldsanclem
09-28-2006, 03:03 AM
Watching my plants grow,,,,,not a joke:D
With thunderfuck :D :D :D :D and hydro you could actualy watch it grow. :dance:
A friend came over one day and talking in the grow room and said " I know you, know how to grow but is that plant,???:o ,,has grown while we have been in here. I put a chlose pin on the stick and waited 45 minutes and it had grown over 1 inch. That plant had fan leafs were 18 in long and 12 in wide. The bad part of the plant was it smelled like a dead skunk in Texas sun. And was a speed weed, no couch lock what so ever.
Used Eco grow, crushed 3/8 granite in 5 gallon buckets. It got about 4-5 inches of the branch to the oz. The Grams/watts/month was around 0.6
Yes you can watch:dance: :dance: :dance: you pot grow. just get out of the way.:thumbsup:
Note TF is extreemly smellie and not for the faint at heart. I'm still looking for seeds again...

mistyganjatree
09-28-2006, 03:20 PM
i grow hydro!,,,,,but realise that good quality soil is sometimes the better option for small non comercial grows,
you need to keep ion top of the water quality, need ph and ec testers minimum, and to learn to control the water!
the mites are nothing to do with the type of system you use!, its a mater of cleanliness!. a very important and often overlooked aspect of any hydro grow!.
eg the floor of our grow room and the walls are tiled, the floor gets bleeched clean every time someone leaves the room, and there is a primery small room that only allows the doors to be opened one at a time!, ie enter very small room,colse door behind you, stand in disenfectant sponge, open internal door and enter grow room!. in the small entrance room there are fly strips and a blue mosquito lamp!, there aint nothing getting in there. ad to this a pair of overalls and a pair of gloves and rubber boots, and you have complete sterility! and NO bugs guaranteed!,,, the best option for bug control is always prevention!. then you never have anything to control!

welcome to the world of endless possibilities,,,,,hydroponics

pastor420
09-28-2006, 10:09 PM
Any idiot can drop a few seeds in some soil and produce something. And being their king that's why I like it.;)

Blunted22
09-29-2006, 12:20 AM
well really the light going out didnt kill it but made it droop until it was sitting in water and basically mad ethe plant t oheavy to the point where they wouldnt stand up. I decided to get rid of some of the bottom bransches to counter act the wieght to the point where they got shocked till they died.

The mites ont he other hand fought with them for month thought i had them gone and boom they would be destryoying my crop when i finally got rid of them (ez as fuck i might add) i had 8 clones which where the ones died with my light situtation (ice to i might add pissed me off) anyways just bad mishaps im out